Old Guy wants music suggestions ;)

[bogga]

Okay so I'm always running into little things here and there that I like alot but needless to say, I'm out of touch. There are three genres I am very much interested in for sake of expansion of knowledge.

Firstly....Emo. (Yeah I said it!)
I really like Mineral (rest in peace) and Thursday but know next to nothing about the genre. Any experts out there have a few more suggestions for me? And I don't want pop shit. I want the real deal.

Secondly....Metal.
I'm a metalhead from way back, though I've obviously calmed down a bit, but every now and then I need that power. The latest band I've gotten into is Lamb of God. Looking for more suggestions.

Lastly....Goth.
First thing I guess I need to know, is this genre dead? (pun intended) I LOVE all the old stuff from Joy Division to Siouxsie to (pseudo-Goth) Manson. Can anyone help me out with this?


I just need some new music in my life. You listen to the same shit for thirty years and you get really bored.


By the way, I'll take other suggestions from other genres you may think I find interesting. Clue: I worship Sonic Youth.



bogga

[pblest]

emo:
texas is the reason - do you know who you are? (you'd love this album)
sunny day real estate - diary, lp2
fugazi - 13 songs, repeater
lifetime - jersey's best dancers
at the drive in - relationship of command
american football - self/titled

i'm not sure i know much about goth, but the cure rules either way.

[bogga]

thanks man

[bard]

metal:

zao - where blood and fire brings rest

they're my favorite

also check out:

between the buried and me - colors
dillinger escape plan - miss machine/ire works (either album)
the locust - new erections

[oddwithoutend]

Phil Elverum (The Microphones, Mount Eerie) - incredible lo-fi folk artist

[zidanetrance]

Metalish (post-hardcore)
Alexisonfire - "Crisis" and "Watch Out!"
Underoath - "They're Only Chasing Safety" and "Define the Great Line"

H.I.M. is kind of Goth... "Dark Light" and "And Love Said No"

Metal
Slipknot - "All Hope is Gone" and "Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses"
Avenged Sevenfold - "Waking the Fallen" and "Sounding the Seventh Trumpet"

[mmmmmpoetry]

Okay so I'm always running into little things here and there that I like alot but needless to say, I'm out of touch. There are three genres I am very much interested in for sake of expansion of knowledge.

Firstly....Emo. (Yeah I said it!)
I really like Mineral (rest in peace) and Thursday but know next to nothing about the genre. Any experts out there have a few more suggestions for me? And I don't want pop shit. I want the real deal.

Secondly....Metal.
I'm a metalhead from way back, though I've obviously calmed down a bit, but every now and then I need that power. The latest band I've gotten into is Lamb of God. Looking for more suggestions.

Lastly....Goth.
First thing I guess I need to know, is this genre dead? (pun intended) I LOVE all the old stuff from Joy Division to Siouxsie to (pseudo-Goth) Manson. Can anyone help me out with this?


I just need some new music in my life. You listen to the same shit for thirty years and you get really bored.


By the way, I'll take other suggestions from other genres you may think I find interesting. Clue: I worship Sonic Youth.



bogga

just keep listening to joy division and sonic youth, don't listen to anyone's suggestions.
oh and goth is dead, and is terrible nowadays. it was awesome in the eighties though.
nick cave and the bad seeds are just gold if you already don't know who they are

[Chromefox]

Don't listen to this guy. That is my recommendation.

Metalish (post-hardcore)
Alexisonfire - "Crisis" and "Watch Out!"
Underoath - "They're Only Chasing Safety" and "Define the Great Line"

H.I.M. is kind of Goth... "Dark Light" and "And Love Said No"

Metal
Slipknot - "All Hope is Gone" and "Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses"
Avenged Sevenfold - "Waking the Fallen" and "Sounding the Seventh Trumpet"

[11:11]

If you like Sonic Youth, you may be into Silversun Pickups.

[MyNameIsRoss]

Don't listen to this guy. That is my recommendation.

Seconded. You should listen to the band Make Believe. I don't know if you are familiar with Tim Kinsella or not, but it's one of his current endeavors.

[Chris Fallon]

You listen to good stuff. Get into Mastodon, in terms of metal. They do a pretty damn good job at bringing a progressive sound to the mainstream.

[llwilliamsll]

Empire! Empire!

[poi]

Metalish (post-hardcore)
Alexisonfire - "Crisis" and "Watch Out!"
Underoath - "They're Only Chasing Safety" and "Define the Great Line"

H.I.M. is kind of Goth... "Dark Light" and "And Love Said No"

Metal
Slipknot - "All Hope is Gone" and "Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses"
Avenged Sevenfold - "Waking the Fallen" and "Sounding the Seventh Trumpet" lol

[poi]

Emo: Algernon Cadwallader, Hightide Hotel, Street Smart Cyclist

[llwilliamsll]

Metalish (post-hardcore)
Alexisonfire - "Crisis" and "Watch Out!"
Underoath - "They're Only Chasing Safety" and "Define the Great Line"

H.I.M. is kind of Goth... "Dark Light" and "And Love Said No"

Metal
Slipknot - "All Hope is Gone" and "Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses"
Avenged Sevenfold - "Waking the Fallen" and "Sounding the Seventh Trumpet"
hahahaha just noticed this.
Solid list.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Did you miss out on The Afghan Whigs? I first heard of them when I was real young. I remember a lot of older "cool" kids being into them. I'm pretty big on them now.

[circatbs]

Texas Is The Reason is the greatest emo band I've ever heard. Similar to Mineral, you'd probably love 'em. Also check out Chris Simpson's other projects if you haven't.

[tehdangerdave]

For actual metal bands:

Iron Maiden (unless you already listen to them, then awesome)
The Sword
Amon Amarth
Down
Harvey Milk
Boris
High On Fire
Genghis Tron

I guess I could post a couple hardcore bands that definitely include a few elements of metal

Propagandhi
Ceremony
Converge
Blacklisted

[Andy Antar]

Sunny Day Real Estate. Quintessential emo.

[mycuban]

um, for metal try Protest the Hero, they kick some ass

and if you want to check out some Indie try, Cursive, Elliott Smith, Kevin Devine...ect...

[dancelukedance]

Metalish (post-hardcore)
Alexisonfire - "Crisis" and "Watch Out!"
Underoath - "They're Only Chasing Safety" and "Define the Great Line"

H.I.M. is kind of Goth... "Dark Light" and "And Love Said No"

Metal
Slipknot - "All Hope is Gone" and "Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses"
Avenged Sevenfold - "Waking the Fallen" and "Sounding the Seventh Trumpet"

are you kidding

[Chris Fallon]

Did you miss out on The Afghan Whigs? I first heard of them when I was real young. I remember a lot of older "cool" kids being into them. I'm pretty big on them now.
Niiiiice -- didn't even think of them, but good call!

[Stephen Chamberlain]

If you like Sonic Youth, you may be into Silversun Pickups.
Are you talking about a different Sonic Youth? This makes no sense to me at all. No one in SP would ever be collaborating with members of The Thing or Merzbow.

[Hey Kevin]

not to hot on Goth but if you enjoy Joy Division you could like music from:
Blonde Redhead
Portishead
The Knife's album "Silent Shout"
Cold Cave
Liars
M83's album "Saturday's = Youth"
The Pains of Being Pure at Heart
Asobi Seksu
A Place to Bury Strangers

[_><_]

Metal:

The Dillinger Escape Plan - Ire Works

[MyNameIsRoss]

There's a lot of people that posted that you shouldn't listen to.

[funkel]

If you like Mineral, listen to any Kinsella band.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

If you like Mineral, listen to Penfold and The Moirai. Both wanted to be Mineral.

[mht]

if you like metal and Lamb of God you should listen to:

http://www.myspace.com/alifeoncelost


don't listen to these goons telling you to listen to bands like Mastodon and Genghis Tron and Cold Cave, all that shit sucks, save your time.

[Hey Kevin]

dont be dissing cold cave baby grrl

[DRUMMERGIRL121]

If you're interested in emo, Christie Front Drive is the way to go.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

if you like metal and Lamb of God you should listen to:

http://www.myspace.com/alifeoncelost


don't listen to these goons telling you to listen to bands like Mastodon and Genghis Tron and Cold Cave, all that shit sucks, save your time.
Favorite ALOL record? I'ma go with A Great Artist.

If you're interested in emo, Christie Front Drive is the way to go.
Truf.

[mht]

Favorite ALOL record? I'ma go with A Great Artist.




I don't have one but I know they now sound like a poor man's Lamb of God and I figured this dude would enjoy that a lot.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Niiiiice -- didn't even think of them, but good call!

Big, big fan.

[11:11]

Are you talking about a different Sonic Youth? This makes no sense to me at all. No one in SP would ever be collaborating with members of The Thing or Merzbow.
The members of the band (SP) site Sonic Youth as a huge influence, and when they first began playing shows, they thought they would draw Sonic Youth comparisons, not the Smashing Pumpkins that they actually get.

[mmmmmpoetry]

The members of the band (SP) site Sonic Youth as a huge influence, and when they first began playing shows, they thought they would draw Sonic Youth comparisons, not the Smashing Pumpkins that they actually get.

I don't really see the similarities at all. "/

[bogga]

Awesome. Very helpful. I will begin exploring. Keep 'em coming.

You guys, rock.


(and not one comment about being 40 and told to go away....)

[stfu_man]

Outsmarting Simon has an indie/emo influenced sound. I love them.

[DejaNew]

From what you've said, here's a few bands you might like. Check them out.

Alexisonfire
Protest The Hero
Dashboard Confessional
Death Cab For Cutie

Hopefully there's something in there that you'll get hooked on!

[DejaNew]

Awesome. Very helpful. I will begin exploring. Keep 'em coming.

You guys, rock.


(and not one comment about being 40 and told to go away....)
Most of the time, people are pretty helpful in the music forum, if you show a legitimate interest in our music. Be aware of the general forum though, if you want to avoid being ridiculed.

[Getup and Dance]

From what you've said, here's a few bands you might like. Check them out.

Thrice(hardcore)
Muse(awesome)
Alexisonfire(hardcore/screamo)
Protest The Hero(hardcoree/screams)
Bright Eyes(emo)
mewithoutYou(can be considered emo)
Silversun Pickups(Sonic Youth-ish)
Brand New(emo)
Dashboard Confessional(different type of emo)
Death Cab For Cutie(emo)
Manchester Orchestra(you'll just like them because they fucking rock)
Underoath(screamo)
The Microphones(emo)

Hopefully there's something in there that you'll get hooked on!

None of those bands are emo or screamo.

[DejaNew]

None of those bands are emo or screamo.
Not by category, but they have the feel them. What would you classify Underoath, The Microphones, Dashboard, Death Cab or Brand New as?

[funkel]

Not by category, but they have the feel them. What would you classify Underoath, The Microphones, Dashboard, Death Cab or Brand New as?
The Microphones as emo?

Lawlz.

I'd put them in the vein of indie rock, similar to Neutral Milk Hotel.

[DejaNew]

The Microphones as emo?

Lawlz.

I'd put them in the vein of indie rock, similar to Neutral Milk Hotel.
See, Id consider Neutral Milk Hotel both emo and indie. Emo is completely different for every person. Some think bands like Hawthorne Heights and My Chemical Romance are emo, but for me, emo is more along the lines of melodic instrumentals with meaningful lyrics. Both NMH and TM put their true feelings into their songs. Which is why referring to The Microphones and Neutral Milk hotel as a form of emo makes sense to me. If you think different, that's fine, because emo is most likely much different in your opinion.

[DejaNew]

The Microphones as emo?

Lawlz.

I'd put them in the vein of indie rock, similar to Neutral Milk Hotel.
Btw, sick camera, is that a DVX or an HVX? I've got an HVX right now.

[Hey Kevin]

See, Id consider Neutral Milk Hotel both emo and indie. Emo is completely different for every person. Some think bands like Hawthorne Heights and My Chemical Romance are emo, but for me, emo is more along the lines of melodic instrumentals with meaningful lyrics. Both NMH and TM put their true feelings into their songs. Which is why referring to The Microphones and Neutral Milk hotel as a form of emo makes sense to me. If you think different, that's fine, because emo is most likely much different in your opinion.

oh i forgot you were there in the dawn of time inventing words and declaring "this means that, unless you dont want it to then you can just say it means anything else"

youre a brick which to me means a fucking moron

[Stephen Chamberlain]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this thread hurts my head! The Microphones tagged as emo and listed alongside Underoath? NMH = emo? Death Cab just equals shit and Silversun Pickups sound nothing like Sonic Youth!

[shit stroll]

lol

[Shattered Glass]

The Get Up Kids

[circatbs]

From what you've said, here's a few bands you might like. Check them out.

Thrice(hardcore)
Muse(awesome)
Alexisonfire(hardcore/screamo)
Protest The Hero(hardcoree/screams)
Bright Eyes(emo)
mewithoutYou(can be considered emo)
Silversun Pickups(Sonic Youth-ish)
Brand New(emo)
Dashboard Confessional(different type of emo)
Death Cab For Cutie(emo)
Manchester Orchestra(you'll just like them because they fucking rock)
Underoath(screamo)
The Microphones(emo)

Hopefully there's something in there that you'll get hooked on!

holy lol is this misleading and flat out wrong.

[DejaNew]

oh i forgot you were there in the dawn of time inventing words and declaring "this means that, unless you dont want it to then you can just say it means anything else"

youre a brick which to me means a fucking moron
Alright, since you know everything about music, what's your opinion on emo genius?

[DejaNew]

holy lol is this misleading and flat out wrong.
How is this misleading? I may have labelled them wrong, because I don't care about what genre it is, and never have cared about genres, because frankly it doesn't matter. If it sounds good, and I enjoy it, Im going to listen to it, not because it's in a certain genre.

[DejaNew]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this thread hurts my head! The Microphones tagged as emo and listed alongside Underoath? NMH = emo? Death Cab just equals shit and Silversun Pickups sound nothing like Sonic Youth!
Does it really matter what they're labelled as? Do you listen to music solely based on what it is labelled as? Yeah, looking back I definitely labelled almost every one of those wrong, but I really don't think it matters.
And the Sonic Youth thing,
The band's sound, often encompassing multiple overdubs of distorted guitars, is frequently compared to that of The Smashing Pumpkins, while the band members have said they are heavily influenced by artists such as My Bloody Valentine, the Velvet Underground, Elliott Smith, Sonic Youth, Sweet, Modest Mouse, and Secret Machines as well as numerous other artists with lesser publicity; especially "by songs like 'Rhinoceros' from Gish by The Smashing Pumpkins and 'The Diamond Sea' from 'Washing Machine' by Sonic Youth" (Nikki Monninger).

I never really heard it either, but it's what I read.

[x togepi x]

How is this misleading? I may have labelled them wrong, because I don't care about what genre it is, and never have cared about genres, because frankly it doesn't matter. If it sounds good, and I enjoy it, Im going to listen to it, not because it's in a certain genre.

it matters because someone is asking for a specific kind of music. following your logic, if someone asked for techno i could be like "listen to slayer", because slayer fucking rules and genres don't matter.

[DejaNew]

it matters because someone is asking for a specific kind of music. following your logic, if someone asked for techno i could be like "listen to slayer", because slayer fucking rules and genres don't matter.
Yeah, really true, I guess I should remove those labels before I get fully fucked by everyone here.

[x togepi x]

Yeah, really true, I guess I should remove those labels before I get fully fucked by everyone here.

yeah dude, just rec bands you like without a label. at least then you're not carrying on with false pretenses.

[JimGray]

it matters because someone is asking for a specific kind of music. following your logic, if someone asked for techno i could be like "listen to slayer", because slayer fucking rules and genres don't matter.

This post made me happy.

[Abruptum]

From The Oceanic Grave - In Dread Response
Crack The Skye - Mastodon
Blood Mountain - Mastodon
Leviathan - Mastodon
Planetary Duality - The Faceless

Those are my five favourite albums at the moment. I recommend them all, especially the first. In Dread Response aren't a very big band, coming from New Zealand, so any support from you guys would be awesome.

[circatbs]

How is this misleading? I may have labelled them wrong, because I don't care about what genre it is, and never have cared about genres, because frankly it doesn't matter. If it sounds good, and I enjoy it, Im going to listen to it, not because it's in a certain genre.

See:

it matters because someone is asking for a specific kind of music. following your logic, if someone asked for techno i could be like "listen to slayer", because slayer fucking rules and genres don't matter.

[_Andrew]

Owch that poor DejaNew kid got shat on lol...

anyway Emo:

American Football and Fugazi

[3mpire]

it matters because someone is asking for a specific kind of music. following your logic, if someone asked for techno i could be like "listen to slayer", because slayer fucking rules and genres don't matter.
A+ post.

[thespearkid]

This thread makes me want to see Jeff Mangum with a swoop haircut and some skinny fit jeans.

[bogga]

Okay my hand is cramping now. I wrote everything down that was suggested by everyone, whether argued against or not. I HAVE to look at Silversun Pickups now, you know, because being a longtime fan of Sonic Youth, I will be the judge of that comparison. I like their song on Rock Band 2...I don't remember the name of it. It seems like it reminded me of The Strokes. Maybe that was someone else in the game. I don't know. I could be confused. But I like The Strokes so that will work...if that's who it was. Ah hell, I'll just go play the game and find out.


AND SLAYER DOES FUCKING RULE!


w00t. Thanks, everyone. This will keep me busy for quite some time. There were a few acts mentioned I was familiar with like Fugazi, Propaghandi (hate 'em. sorry.) and Cursive. But this is quite a list to pore over, read about, and evenetually spend money on. You guys rock.


bogga

[Hey Kevin]

this thread reminds me of this

5wdmSL2-Ock

[bogga]

Oh thanks so much. It says I'm 40, not 109. And that is just a disturbing video...