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Jason Tate
12/10/05, 01:59 AM
Panic! at the Disco (http://www.panicatthedisco.com) will be performing on Last Call with Carson Daly on January 12, 2006.
Submitted by: Nick Collison
itsjdiggity
12/10/05, 02:00 AM
nick collison is a beast
1check_1love
12/10/05, 02:05 AM
already late night shows?
itsjdiggity
12/10/05, 02:12 AM
plus distortion!
haha...wrong thread?
haha...wrong thread?
nope. dance party. on last call. get with it!
romantic rights
12/10/05, 02:26 AM
this will be the 2nd biggest airplay carson has ever gotten (first being fall out boy)
but really.
carson.
he's not that great.
its nothing special to be on tv, at least when carson is the show you are on.
its almost like public access....
itsjdiggity
12/10/05, 02:28 AM
that show is hard to watch...even the studio audience doesn't laugh at his jokes
Pat Marquez
12/10/05, 02:28 AM
god last call with carson daily is so pathetically awful. the guy is so lame.
ishotthepilot
12/10/05, 05:10 AM
welll, this has been exponential.
ishotthepilot
12/10/05, 05:11 AM
Panic! at the Disco (http://www.panicatthedisco.com) will be performing on Last Call with Carson Daly on January 12, 2006.
Submitted by: Nick Collison
they need a real website... like this?
http://www.nbc.com/Last_Call_with_Carson_Daly/
edit--- oh, Panic does. gotcha.
thewebguy
12/10/05, 05:19 AM
They Need A Real Website (http://www.panicatthedisco.com)
we launch today i believe
Self_Destruct
12/10/05, 06:08 AM
What time/channel/day is it on? I'm far to lazy to look it up. :thumbsup:
JacksColdSweat
12/10/05, 06:57 AM
they got old fast
cahrishurr
12/10/05, 07:09 AM
what a shitty band
on the worst late night show...carson is washed up since his days at TRL...he needs to stop trying to hang on to him thinking he's "cool"
Nate_RAWKS
12/10/05, 08:28 AM
Wow that's pretty big congrats to them.
Wow that's pretty big congrats to them.
see i think everyone should model to be like Nate.
He's never got a bad things to say, and he is always so positive.
Nate.... you Rawk.
Flags of Dawn
12/10/05, 08:35 AM
Nick Collison? The basketball player?
muddysocks7
12/10/05, 08:37 AM
i'd say it is a big deal... it's just another chance for exposure... i think they are doing a much better job at getting exposure this way than going on silly tours like October Fall is doing...it's amazing how big they have gotten so fast...
lovewithcaution
12/10/05, 08:39 AM
too bad his show will probably be cancelled by january anyways. :shake:
Nate_RAWKS
12/10/05, 08:42 AM
see i think everyone should model to be like Nate.
He's never got a bad things to say, and he is always so positive.
Nate.... you Rawk.
haha thanks dude much appreciated. Canadian love!!!1!!1!!! \m/
Big_Guy
12/10/05, 08:56 AM
they got old fast
yeah, it has to be some kind of record..............3.2 seconds, DAMN!
what a shitty band
on the worst late night show...carson is washed up since his days at TRL...he needs to stop trying to hang on to him thinking he's "cool"
you should talk to nate more..... gain some 'wisdom' and maybe one day you'll learn to stop being such a negative little shit.
poppa Q
12/10/05, 08:58 AM
Nick Collison? The basketball player?
Hahah, he was one hell of a college player.
poppa Q
12/10/05, 08:58 AM
you should talk to nate more..... gain some 'wisdom' and maybe one day you'll learn to stop being such a negative little shit.
Nate truly is the man.
Nate_RAWKS
12/10/05, 09:02 AM
Nate truly is the man.
haha you guys rule!!! Seriously...
underthetalking
12/10/05, 09:22 AM
The only reason this band is getting big is because FOB is promoting them more than they promote themselves. Panic! is playing what sells and is a carbon copy of FOB.
AloneInTheDark
12/10/05, 09:22 AM
i'd say it is a big deal... it's just another chance for exposure... i think they are doing a much better job at getting exposure this way than going on silly tours like October Fall is doing...it's amazing how big they have gotten so fast...
Yeah fusion was huge for them, that pushed them up really quickly. I think what they did with thier album, only releaseing one or two songs to the public was a good idea too, because I had heard all this stuff about them and how good they were, so I picked up the album right away.
Hopefully everyone sees how horrible/fake this band is live.
-ACA
yesvirginia
12/10/05, 09:30 AM
wow...fuck that
The only reason this band is getting big is because FOB is promoting them more than they promote themselves. Panic! is playing what sells and is a carbon copy of FOB.
Maybe it's just me.... but I can't hear any "carbon copy" of FOB when I listen to Panic!
And I wouldn't think of a 50K band as "big" It's impressive for them, but not exactly big.
The only reason this band is getting big is because FOB is promoting them more than they promote themselves. Panic! is playing what sells and is a carbon copy of FOB.
I didn't realize that being supported by another band was a legitimate reason to not like them....
Oh.. wait. That's because it's not, you fucking moron.
bradyreier
12/10/05, 09:50 AM
I didn't realize that being supported by another band was a legitimate reason to not like them....
Oh.. wait. That's because it's not, you fucking moron.
hehe.. yessss
Hopefully everyone sees how horrible/fake this band is live.
-ACA
i thought they were entertaining. and different... so i guess i hope that people look past all the haters, and see that they are a decent band, and that they aren't 'carbon copies of fall out boy'
resUrectMe617
12/10/05, 10:03 AM
beating many many other deserving bands to mainstream television......................... ................unfair.
resUrectMe617
12/10/05, 10:08 AM
I didn't realize that being supported by another band was a legitimate reason to not like them....
Oh.. wait. That's because it's not, you fucking moron.
i think that he phrased it wrong, because i totally get you mean.. bands endorse other bands all the time. but that's not just what pete is doing. its more than endorsing. its like propaganda, its like if god came down and said "listen to this"...obviously people will because god is god and people can almost be brainwashed by such powerful figures (i dont mean to sound sacreligious, cause i'm pretty religious myself) but you get my point. pete is using his power, his "authority", his fame, his expertise at getting little horny teen girls to drop their pants......... and building PATD up. there have been times when bands like Brand New or TBS have mentioned to support a certain band, but you haven't seen an influx of popularity like here. its one thing to support a band, its another thing to push it in people's faces in every aspect of the industry (magazine, touring, television)...and remember, Pete is basically their A&R, he's more than just promoting them.
i thought they were entertaining. and different... so i guess i hope that people look past all the haters, and see that they are a decent band, and that they aren't 'carbon copies of fall out boy'
Different? Entertaining? They're completely generic.
But that's not the point..
Point is, the half of the band's music is synth: it's a lot of real simple guitar and extremely simple drumming. That's not even the point--simple music can be good (see The Beatles). But the CD's music isn't so simple, it's very over-produced with synth.
The drumming live is so fake. Anything with a decent beat is sampled.
Their flaws truely show when they're on tour with a band like Motion City Soundtrack, the true definition of a band that uses synth. You should be performing your music live, not fucking sampling it.
I'd say the same negative things about Motion City, Thursday, Underoath, Acceptance, or any other band that has a REAL guy on a keyboard/moog doing synths and such if they weren't genuine. But they ARE genuine. Panic! isn't genuine live. And I just don't respect them for that fact.
-ACA
romantic rights
12/10/05, 10:17 AM
beating many many other deserving bands to mainstream television......................... ................unfair.
you seriosuly think its unfair that they are playing fucking carson? That show comes on at 2 am or some shit like that dosent it? Honestly, i'd understand if they were on conan or letterman, but carson? no.... thats not a big deal, I roll my eyes at that.
resUrectMe617
12/10/05, 10:19 AM
you seriosuly think its unfair that they are playing fucking carson? That show comes on at 2 am or some shit like that dosent it? Honestly, i'd understand if they were on conan or letterman, but carson? no.... thats not a big deal, I roll my eyes at that.
well obviously carson versus letterman......CARSON LOSES.
but if the situation was this (which is what i am talking about):
television exposure versus NONE AT ALL......NONE AT ALL LOSES.
i am just talking about the basics. being on tv, no matter what show it is, is fucking huge. especially since this is like what channel..NBC? that is huge.
It's not that big of a deal. Small bands get added to TV shows all the time. I mean..
The Blood Brothers, Against Me!, and Propaghandi have all been on TV late-night.... Panic! is bigger than those bands (sadly).
-ACA
preppyak
12/10/05, 10:27 AM
nick collison is a beast
KU alum
resUrectMe617
12/10/05, 10:28 AM
It's not that big of a deal. Small bands get added to TV shows all the time. I mean..
The Blood Brothers, Against Me!, and Propaghandi have all been on TV late-night.... Panic! is bigger than those bands (sadly).
-ACA
well blood brothers have just been accepted by a lot of people now. they are like one of the staples of the "scene". i mean how many blood brother references can you see alone on myspace pages? against me! has been around. and i don't really know much about propaghandi.. so i won't say anything about it. PATD has not been around. has one release. and like one single. the fact that a band like PATD has gotten TV exposure is big, cause its wrong (i'm sure you'd agree). i guess what im trying to say.. PATD on tv is huge. i guess we're all just kind of expectant for these things now. they'll probably go on to make a tv show soon. who knows..
ps. and i guess when i mean "small bands" i think of bands like Forgive Durden or The Hush Sound, coincidentally on the same label as PATD...
preppyak
12/10/05, 10:34 AM
The only reason this band is getting big is because FOB is promoting them more than they promote themselves. Panic! is playing what sells and is a carbon copy of FOB.
Clearly as someone who hates the band, you haven't heard the cd more than once, otherwise you would be able to tell the obvious differences between FOB and Panic.
The singers have different ranges and different accents, in the end, I can't find a single FOB song that vocally sounds like Panic's. They have different lyrical focuses, which sets them apart. The musicianship is far different, being that the synth is something FOB never ventures into. There is actually way too large a difference to even pretend they are "carbon copies".
And since they are in association with Pete's label, Decaydence and Fueled By Ramen, I'd expect him to promote them, otherwise he wouldn't be doing his job for them.
romantic rights
12/10/05, 10:37 AM
well blood brothers have just been accepted by a lot of people now. they are like one of the staples of the "scene". i mean how many blood brother references can you see alone on myspace pages? against me! has been around. and i don't really know much about propaghandi.. so i won't say anything about it. PATD has not been around. has one release. and like one single. the fact that a band like PATD has gotten TV exposure is big, cause its wrong (i'm sure you'd agree). i guess what im trying to say.. PATD on tv is huge. i guess we're all just kind of expectant for these things now. they'll probably go on to make a tv show soon. who knows..
ps. and i guess when i mean "small bands" i think of bands like Forgive Durden or The Hush Sound, coincidentally on the same label as PATD...
Just think of it this way, there have been bands who randomly get signed to a major who get to play late nigt shows. I really dont think that carson is something to overreact about, its not like anyone who watches carson would like panic!..... do people actually watch carson? But i mean, Low played on carson at one point in time, another time he had some random punk band who were probably just some crappy local band on his show all week. yes i've seen the show about 3 times when i cant sleep at night.... at least the beginning of it. I just dont see the reason to be complaining about carson. Maybe their management is just good at pulling strings for them, which really, isnt that what a band needs? somebody to pull strings for them?
Flags of Dawn
12/10/05, 10:38 AM
yeah, I mean heaven for bid they have the opportunity to get some national exposure to help realize a dream...thats just wrong. The world would be so much better if all bands just knew their place in the scene and turned down things like this so we can just go down the totem pole of "real bands" that you all speak so highly of.
bitch please.
preppyak
12/10/05, 10:38 AM
ps. and i guess when i mean "small bands" i think of bands like Forgive Durden or The Hush Sound, coincidentally on the same label as PATD...
Guess what, these are the bands pete is going to be "whoring" next, it's his label, it's his job to get them noticed. What he's doing ISN'T propaganda as someone said, it's promotion, his job at Decaydence. You may not agree with the fact that he has an unusually large reach because of his fanbase, but it's one of the advantages bands on Decaydence will have.
Look at the dates for the bands releasing albums, I guarantee you a month before they are on tour with Fall Out Boy, or Pete mentions them during his shows constantly at least.
Maybe their management is just good at pulling strings for them, which really, isnt that what a band needs? somebody to pull strings for them?
Well, when the man promoting you is the face of one of the top bands on MTV, it's not that hard to get things like this accomplished
preppyak
12/10/05, 10:38 AM
yeah, I mean heaven for bid they have the opportunity to get some national exposure to help realize a dream...thats just wrong. The world would be so much better if all bands just knew their place in the scene and turned down things like this so we can just go down the totem pole of "real bands" that you speak so highly of.
bitch please.
haha, well put.
Clearly as someone who hates the band, you haven't heard the cd more than once, otherwise you would be able to tell the obvious differences between FOB and Panic.
The singers have different ranges and different accents, in the end, I can't find a single FOB song that vocally sounds like Panic's. They have different lyrical focuses, which sets them apart. The musicianship is far different, being that the synth is something FOB never ventures into. There is actually way too large a difference to even pretend they are "carbon copies".
And since they are in association with Pete's label, Decaydence and Fueled By Ramen, I'd expect him to promote them, otherwise he wouldn't be doing his job for them.
very well organized burn. good job.
ishotthepilot
12/10/05, 10:53 AM
Clearly as someone who hates the band, you haven't heard the cd more than once, otherwise you would be able to tell the obvious differences between FOB and Panic.
The singers have different ranges and different accents, in the end, I can't find a single FOB song that vocally sounds like Panic's. They have different lyrical focuses, which sets them apart. The musicianship is far different, being that the synth is something FOB never ventures into. There is actually way too large a difference to even pretend they are "carbon copies".
And since they are in association with Pete's label, Decaydence and Fueled By Ramen, I'd expect him to promote them, otherwise he wouldn't be doing his job for them.
thank you.
Different? Entertaining? They're completely generic.
But that's not the point..
Point is, the half of the band's music is synth: it's a lot of real simple guitar and extremely simple drumming. That's not even the point--simple music can be good (see The Beatles). But the CD's music isn't so simple, it's very over-produced with synth.
again i must say something along the lines of: "we are definitely not listening to the same album or else you wouldn't be saying such stupid things. where on earth did you get yours?"
resUrectMe617
12/10/05, 10:53 AM
yeah, I mean heaven for bid they have the opportunity to get some national exposure to help realize a dream...thats just wrong. The world would be so much better if all bands just knew their place in the scene and turned down things like this so we can just go down the totem pole of "real bands" that you all speak so highly of.
bitch please.
what i meant by "wrong" wasnt that they should "know their place." it just feels wrong because it happened so quickly. anyone can testify to that. and that's what i meant.
resUrectMe617
12/10/05, 10:56 AM
Guess what, these are the bands pete is going to be "whoring" next, it's his label, it's his job to get them noticed. What he's doing ISN'T propaganda as someone said, it's promotion, his job at Decaydence. You may not agree with the fact that he has an unusually large reach because of his fanbase, but it's one of the advantages bands on Decaydence will have.
Look at the dates for the bands releasing albums, I guarantee you a month before they are on tour with Fall Out Boy, or Pete mentions them during his shows constantly at least.
Well, when the man promoting you is the face of one of the top bands on MTV, it's not that hard to get things like this accomplished
yeah, i guess PATD just got lucky being on pete's label. as hard and as futile as it is to complain about "luck of the draw" i guess that is what i am doing here by making my comments. it just sucks that some bands get picked up by people who have the power to basically own the world, while others just get lost in the shuffle. simple as that.
Flags of Dawn
12/10/05, 10:56 AM
what i meant by "wrong" wasnt that they should "know their place." it just feels wrong because it happened so quickly. anyone can testify to that. and that's what i meant.
thats how the music industry works though, you should know this by now.
preppyak
12/10/05, 10:58 AM
yeah, i guess PATD just got lucky being on pete's label. as hard and as futile as it is to complain about "luck of the draw" i guess that is what i am doing here by making my comments. it just sucks that some bands get picked up by people who have the power to basically own the world, while others just get lost in the shuffle. simple as that.
Yeah, I see that. I happen to like Panic, though their album gets old pretty fast. I wish all labels had someone like Pete out there generating those kinds of sales. Another man that does the same work getting people noticed is Tony Brummel, even though a lot of people hate him.
romantic rights
12/10/05, 11:05 AM
yeah, i guess PATD just got lucky being on pete's label. as hard and as futile as it is to complain about "luck of the draw" i guess that is what i am doing here by making my comments. it just sucks that some bands get picked up by people who have the power to basically own the world, while others just get lost in the shuffle. simple as that.
Its been like that forever.
well blood brothers have just been accepted by a lot of people now. they are like one of the staples of the "scene". i mean how many blood brother references can you see alone on myspace pages? against me! has been around. and i don't really know much about propaghandi.. so i won't say anything about it. PATD has not been around. has one release. and like one single. the fact that a band like PATD has gotten TV exposure is big, cause its wrong (i'm sure you'd agree). i guess what im trying to say.. PATD on tv is huge. i guess we're all just kind of expectant for these things now. they'll probably go on to make a tv show soon. who knows..ps. and i guess when i mean "small bands" i think of bands like Forgive Durden or The Hush Sound, coincidentally on the same label as PATD...
"Small bands" aren't so small anymore. The fact that 10 year olds everywhere know My Chemical Romance illustrates this. I knew this band when they were small (I love NJ :D ). This band, I thought, would always be a "small band". They're not. They sold a million fucking records. That's insane.
Popularity in rock isn't new. Good bands being popular also isn't new. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd.... all very amazing bands, and all very popular. That's awesome.
But sometime (I'm only 20, I'm not exactly sure) good music stopped being popular. Maybe it was late 70s, maybe it was the 80s.. maybe it was that damned "grunge revolution" of the 1990s. I don't know. But for a large portion of life, good music was not popular. The radio/MTV is infested with generic fake-metal, bland rock, rap, R&B, and of course "pop".
"Pop" never used to be a dirty word! The Beatles were pop!
The public somehow accepted a trend that it's perfectly alright to listen to shitty music!
So now, 2005, good music is making a comeback. It's taking bands like Fall Out Boy (who have a decidely pop sound) and My Chemical Romance to come out, and take the radio back.
In the late 1990s, some amazing bands emerged, coming from a time when shitty music was all that could be found. Thursday, Thrice.. these are incredible bands, born in a time when good music was dead to the public.
And we discovered this good music. A generation of teenagers who realized that there are alternatives to the shit you find on MTV. Art in rock isn't dead, we thought. This was awesome, and soon this music became huge to us.
So for nearly 10 years, this music was underground. It was "ours". We took comfort (and pride) in knowing that while Suzy Hoebag next door listened to Christina Aguilera, we listened to Full Collapse. Clarity. Dear You.
"Our music" of "small bands" is now somehow making a mainstream impact. Fall Out Boy wins awards on MTV, My Chemical Romance is in the profiles and heads of millions of kids. This was unthinkable. Since when did the cheerleaders and the captain of the football team know good music? The highschool quarterback suddenly knows "Until The Day I Die". This is insane. My friend's band, State Unfair [rock from NJ, Purevolume/Myspace 'em] opened for HANSON. That's absolutely crazy.
These bands that we used to watch in basements are in arenas. It's a slow progession, but it's happening. "Small bands" stil exist (like the ones you mentioned). But they won't be small for long, as their sound is becoming accepted, and good music is back.
-ACA
romantic rights
12/10/05, 11:12 AM
"Small bands" aren't so small anymore. The fact that 10 year olds everywhere know My Chemical Romance illustrates this. I knew this band when they were small (I love NJ :D ). This band, I thought, would always be a "small band". They're not. They sold a million fucking records. That's insane.
Popularity in rock isn't new. Good bands being popular also isn't new. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd.... all very amazing bands, and all very popular. That's awesome.
But sometime (I'm only 20, I'm not exactly sure) good music stopped being popular. Maybe it was late 70s, maybe it was the 80s.. maybe it was that damned "grunge revolution" of the 1990s. I don't know. But for a large portion of life, good music was not popular. The radio/MTV is infested with generic fake-metal, bland rock, rap, R&B, and of course "pop".
"Pop" never used to be a dirty word! The Beatles were pop!
The public somehow accepted a trend that it's perfectly alright to listen to shitty music!
So now, 2005, good music is making a comeback. It's taking bands like Fall Out Boy (who have a decidely pop sound) and My Chemical Romance to come out, and take the radio back.
In the late 1990s, some amazing bands emerged, coming from a time when shitty music was all that could be found. Thursday, Thrice.. these are incredible bands, born in a time when good music was dead to the public.
And we discovered this good music. A generation of teenagers who realized that there are alternatives to the shit you find on MTV. Art in rock isn't dead, we thought. This was awesome, and soon this music became huge to us.
So for nearly 10 years, this music was underground. It was "ours". We took comfort (and pride) in knowing that while Suzy Hoebag next door listened to Christina Aguilera, we listened to Full Collapse. Clarity. Dear You.
"Our music" of "small bands" is now somehow making a mainstream impact. Fall Out Boy wins awards on MTV, My Chemical Romance is in the profiles and heads of millions of kids. This was unthinkable. Since when did the cheerleaders and the captain of the football team know good music? The highschool quarterback suddenly knows "Until The Day I Die". This is insane. My friend's band, State Unfair [rock from NJ, Purevolume/Myspace 'em] opened for HANSON. That's absolutely crazy.
These bands that we used to watch in basements are in arenas. It's a slow progession, but it's happening. "Small bands" stil exist (like the ones you mentioned). But they won't be small for long, as their sound is becoming accepted, and good music is back.
-ACA
Amen.
Big_Guy
12/10/05, 11:20 AM
It's not that big of a deal. Small bands get added to TV shows all the time. I mean..
The Blood Brothers, Against Me!, and Propaghandi have all been on TV late-night.... Panic! is bigger than those bands (sadly).
-ACA
hold on. Propagandhi?
what? when? where? why?
Never Last
12/10/05, 11:21 AM
Different? Entertaining? They're completely generic.
But that's not the point..
Point is, the half of the band's music is synth: it's a lot of real simple guitar and extremely simple drumming. That's not even the point--simple music can be good (see The Beatles). But the CD's music isn't so simple, it's very over-produced with synth.
The drumming live is so fake. Anything with a decent beat is sampled.
Their flaws truely show when they're on tour with a band like Motion City Soundtrack, the true definition of a band that uses synth. You should be performing your music live, not fucking sampling it.
I'd say the same negative things about Motion City, Thursday, Underoath, Acceptance, or any other band that has a REAL guy on a keyboard/moog doing synths and such if they weren't genuine. But they ARE genuine. Panic! isn't genuine live. And I just don't respect them for that fact.
-ACA
I saw MCS live, and the synth sounded terrible. It was over run by static, and you could barely make out anything. I personally think it's way more enteraining to have a lead singer on the stage singing to the crowd, then a guy sitting at a MIDI keyboard because some people want to see it played "live". That's just completely fucking ridiculous to me. It's not gonna change the sound quality or anything. And even if Panic did start being a "genuine band" there is no way they could do all they do on the record, they would still at least one or two backing tracks for each song. But yeah I guess bands like, NIN aren't genuine live cause he has so much stuff going on in his music that there's no way he could play it all live.
It'd be completely boring seeing a guy there sitting down concentrating on hitting the right keys. Plus it would put a strain on his voice. It's not like the guy in MCS who does nothing else but play the keyboard. And while I can see where you're coming from, I still think it'd be boring to see them play their synths live. Cut them a break. They just started touring heavily, I'm pretty sure they're still figuring out ways of doing things.
Anyway back on topic, looks like Panic's core audience (teen girls) won't be able to catch this, should be good though.
I saw MCS live, and the synth sounded terrible. It was over run by static, and you could barely make out anything. I personally think it's way more enteraining to have a lead singer on the stage singing to the crowd, then a guy sitting at a MIDI keyboard because some people want to see it played "live". That's just completely fucking ridiculous to me. It's not gonna change the sound quality or anything. And even if Panic did start being a "genuine band" there is no way they could do all they do on the record, they would still at least one or two backing tracks for each song. But yeah I guess bands like, NIN aren't genuine live cause he has so much stuff going on in his music that there's no way he could play it all live.
It'd be completely boring seeing a guy there sitting down concentrating on hitting the right keys. Plus it would put a strain on his voice. It's not like the guy in MCS who does nothing else but play the keyboard. And while I can see where you're coming from, I still think it'd be boring to see them play their synths live. Cut them a break. They just started touring heavily, I'm pretty sure they're still figuring out ways of doing things.
I'm sorry your MCS experience was such: I've seen them ten times (inside/outside/tours/fests), and I've never once seen them perform poorly, or have that issue with the moog. Give them another chance! :)
Panic! has some issues to figure out, then, if the singer is the one who did the beats. They're not the first band to have a lead singer who contributes in more than one way.
Thursday had to add Andrew to their tours so that the keys would be present live, and it wouldn't come off as lame. Green Day has a tour guitarist, because Billy Joe writes 2-4 guitar parts for each song. Thrice's Teppei learned some keys, and does it live for Vheissu songs. On and on.
Panic! has of options. They could find teach their singer to do it live, which isn't as impossible as you make it sound. Billy Joel (and hundreds of other people) play real piano and sing. It's part of the job. Panic! could also teach someone the synth, and bring them along..
These are all issues you shouldn't have to deal with as a band.. but I guess when you're fabricated to become like another band, and you're not a real DIY band for sometime, then these issues hit you on a main stage.
-ACA
"Small bands" aren't so small anymore. The fact that 10 year olds everywhere know My Chemical Romance illustrates this. I knew this band when they were small (I love NJ :D ). This band, I thought, would always be a "small band". They're not. They sold a million fucking records. That's insane.
Popularity in rock isn't new. Good bands being popular also isn't new. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd.... all very amazing bands, and all very popular. That's awesome.
But sometime (I'm only 20, I'm not exactly sure) good music stopped being popular. Maybe it was late 70s, maybe it was the 80s.. maybe it was that damned "grunge revolution" of the 1990s. I don't know. But for a large portion of life, good music was not popular. The radio/MTV is infested with generic fake-metal, bland rock, rap, R&B, and of course "pop".
"Pop" never used to be a dirty word! The Beatles were pop!
The public somehow accepted a trend that it's perfectly alright to listen to shitty music!
So now, 2005, good music is making a comeback. It's taking bands like Fall Out Boy (who have a decidely pop sound) and My Chemical Romance to come out, and take the radio back.
In the late 1990s, some amazing bands emerged, coming from a time when shitty music was all that could be found. Thursday, Thrice.. these are incredible bands, born in a time when good music was dead to the public.
And we discovered this good music. A generation of teenagers who realized that there are alternatives to the shit you find on MTV. Art in rock isn't dead, we thought. This was awesome, and soon this music became huge to us.
So for nearly 10 years, this music was underground. It was "ours". We took comfort (and pride) in knowing that while Suzy Hoebag next door listened to Christina Aguilera, we listened to Full Collapse. Clarity. Dear You.
"Our music" of "small bands" is now somehow making a mainstream impact. Fall Out Boy wins awards on MTV, My Chemical Romance is in the profiles and heads of millions of kids. This was unthinkable. Since when did the cheerleaders and the captain of the football team know good music? The highschool quarterback suddenly knows "Until The Day I Die". This is insane. My friend's band, State Unfair [rock from NJ, Purevolume/Myspace 'em] opened for HANSON. That's absolutely crazy.
These bands that we used to watch in basements are in arenas. It's a slow progession, but it's happening. "Small bands" stil exist (like the ones you mentioned). But they won't be small for long, as their sound is becoming accepted, and good music is back.
-ACA
although we don't agree with the whole Panic! issue... i respect every word you''ve typed so far in this thread.
for a few more reasons why Panic! deserves to play on Carson (and I can't believe people still argue that they shouldn't), from Wikipedia:
The band attracted considerable publicity in the leadup to the release of the album with Spin magazine naming them as their band of the day in early October 2005. The band has also increased in popularity due to their online presence with PureVolume having them consistently in their Top 10 signed band list and reaching #1 on the MySpace chart.
When their first album A Fever You Can't Sweat Out was released, it debuted on the US charts at #112 on the Billboard album charts with nearly 10,000 in first week sales. It also debuted at #6 on the Billboard independent chart and at #1 on the Billboard heatseeker chart. The band started its first North American tour supporting Fall Out Boy and other acts in October 2005
For whomever wrote about them using samples. They cleared that issue up in an AP writeup a month or so back. They don't have the budget to drag around another performer right now. When they get the budget, they will have somebody with them to recreate the sounds live.
Adeniz19
12/10/05, 12:26 PM
For whomever wrote about them using samples. They cleared that issue up in an AP writeup a month or so back. They don't have the budget to drag around another performer right now. When they get the budget, they will have somebody with them to recreate the sounds live.i call bs
romantic rights
12/10/05, 12:34 PM
for a few more reasons why Panic! deserves to play on Conan (and I can't believe people still argue that they shouldn't), from Wikipedia:
The band attracted considerable publicity in the leadup to the release of the album with Spin magazine naming them as their band of the day in early October 2005. The band has also increased in popularity due to their online presence with PureVolume having them consistently in their Top 10 signed band list and reaching #1 on the MySpace chart.
When their first album A Fever You Can't Sweat Out was released, it debuted on the US charts at #112 on the Billboard album charts with nearly 10,000 in first week sales. It also debuted at #6 on the Billboard independent chart and at #1 on the Billboard heatseeker chart. The band started its first North American tour supporting Fall Out Boy and other acts in October 2005
panic! dosent deserve to be on conan.
now i'd like to see Ted Leo play on conan again. He deserves it.
cahrishurr
12/10/05, 12:34 PM
you should talk to nate more..... gain some 'wisdom' and maybe one day you'll learn to stop being such a negative little shit.
lol @ you
im not a negative little shit...i just dont like panic! in my asshole
FUNLIKEAGUN
12/10/05, 12:35 PM
is it me or is it uncomfotable to watch carson do an interview
ForeverInADay
12/10/05, 12:43 PM
see i think everyone should model to be like Nate.
He's never got a bad things to say, and he is always so positive.
Nate.... you Rawk.
My, my. What's that there on your nose? hahahaha
Seriously, Nate's rad.
And I'll stay up late to watch this, I want to see how they do it with the live show, seeing as how theres only the two of them, Right?
ceelove
12/10/05, 12:43 PM
i'm sure they're not going to be really playing.
panic! dosent deserve to be on conan.
now i'd like to see Ted Leo play on conan again. He deserves it.
sorry, i wrote the wrong host name
lol @ you
im not a negative little shit...i just dont like panic! in my asshole
spare me with the 'lol'
Azwethinkweiz
12/10/05, 02:40 PM
I'm sorry your MCS experience was such: I've seen them ten times (inside/outside/tours/fests), and I've never once seen them perform poorly, or have that issue with the moog. Give them another chance! :)
Panic! has some issues to figure out, then, if the singer is the one who did the beats. They're not the first band to have a lead singer who contributes in more than one way.
Thursday had to add Andrew to their tours so that the keys would be present live, and it wouldn't come off as lame. Green Day has a tour guitarist, because Billy Joe writes 2-4 guitar parts for each song. Thrice's Teppei learned some keys, and does it live for Vheissu songs. On and on.
Panic! has of options. They could find teach their singer to do it live, which isn't as impossible as you make it sound. Billy Joel (and hundreds of other people) play real piano and sing. It's part of the job. Panic! could also teach someone the synth, and bring them along..
These are all issues you shouldn't have to deal with as a band.. but I guess when you're fabricated to become like another band, and you're not a real DIY band for sometime, then these issues hit you on a main stage.
-ACA
First of all, what you were talking about earlier isn't sampling. Sampling is when you use someone elses music to create a new but similar sound. They made up everything they have. No sampling involved
Second of all, Panic's "beats" are humanly impossible to recreate live. Even if they did get a keyboard player, they'd still have to "sample" as you call it. Although they want to get someone to play something on the keyboard live.
Third of all, I'm not sure about this at all, but I don't think Brendon was the one who made up the keyboard parts.
thewebguy
12/10/05, 02:50 PM
shut the hell up you bitches
Flags of Dawn
12/10/05, 03:40 PM
is it me or is it uncomfotable to watch carson do an interview
the one he did with john mayer was possibly the funniest interview ive ever seen on late night tv, and trust me, it was alll john mayer.
jeweltosparkle
12/10/05, 03:54 PM
i thought they were entertaining. and different... so i guess i hope that people look past all the haters, and see that they are a decent band, and that they aren't 'carbon copies of fall out boy'
Your right they arent cabron copies Fall Out Boy is good
frankpistol
12/10/05, 06:00 PM
carson loves the cock
Jason Tate
12/10/05, 06:38 PM
I'm sorry your MCS experience was such: I've seen them ten times (inside/outside/tours/fests), and I've never once seen them perform poorly, or have that issue with the moog. Give them another chance! :)
Panic! has some issues to figure out, then, if the singer is the one who did the beats. They're not the first band to have a lead singer who contributes in more than one way.
Thursday had to add Andrew to their tours so that the keys would be present live, and it wouldn't come off as lame. Green Day has a tour guitarist, because Billy Joe writes 2-4 guitar parts for each song. Thrice's Teppei learned some keys, and does it live for Vheissu songs. On and on.
Panic! has of options. They could find teach their singer to do it live, which isn't as impossible as you make it sound. Billy Joel (and hundreds of other people) play real piano and sing. It's part of the job. Panic! could also teach someone the synth, and bring them along..
These are all issues you shouldn't have to deal with as a band.. but I guess when you're fabricated to become like another band, and you're not a real DIY band for sometime, then these issues hit you on a main stage.
-ACA
I worry for people like you. I cringe reading your posts.
dayafteryesterday
12/10/05, 08:01 PM
love panic!
musicnewbie
12/10/05, 09:41 PM
Panic! At The Disco is good but far from great. Yeah, their cd was catchy but it has absolutely no staying power for me.
WhatSayYou
12/10/05, 11:32 PM
Definately the catchiest cd of the year. But the problem with catchy cds is that they get boring fast. Great albums like Brand New's deja entendu always have something new you notice even after hearing it a million times.
New flash!!: Panic!'s lead singer DOES play piano and guitar live. He switches between so many instruments it is ridiculous. Not to mention, he is an AWESOME musician (not generic or mediocre, he picked the accoustic for "I constantly thank god.." not just rythmn strums) I don't think anyone had to "teach him" how to play the instruments live so they could look more "legit". I saw them headline last week. Their drummer did several drum solos and was not doing simple beats with the rest sampled. I suggest you do a little more homework before you start making assumptions about these guys being generic and overproduced because they lack talent. They are more talented musically than more than most of the bands out there today.
ceelove
12/12/05, 03:07 AM
New flash!!: Panic!'s lead singer DOES play piano and guitar live. He switches between so many instruments it is ridiculous. Not to mention, he is an AWESOME musician (not generic or mediocre, he picked the accoustic for "I constantly thank god.." not just rythmn strums) I don't think anyone had to "teach him" how to play the instruments live so they could look more "legit". I saw them headline last week. Their drummer did several drum solos and was not doing simple beats with the rest sampled. I suggest you do a little more homework before you start making assumptions about these guys being generic and overproduced because they lack talent. They are more talented musically than more than most of the bands out there today.
well, all i know is they sucked at the chain reaction show i went to and their crowd was rude for the opening bands and by rude i mean stupid and immature but i guess i shouldn't expect much from 13 year old girls.
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