The Chariot

[bleed me bleu]

The new Unsung EP was supposed to be a present for my friend, but curiously i opened to see how this band was...
The worst hardcore band ive ever come across, it all one big annoying breakdown and so messingly put together

and other thoughts..?

[last light]

not a fan, the ep is far worse than the full length however.

[brutusUbastard]

They put on a helliva show. And I enjoy both the EP and Full length.

And they aren't a "hardcore" band.

They are better with two guitarists though.

[a speedo model]

i don't really like them.

[ChokingOnADream]

I like them. They put on good shows. The EP isnt as good as the full length.

[Carlo Marx]

They're great, considering that josh scogin used to be in norma jean. I was suprised that someone could bring about something decent after coming from such a shitty band.

[Hilikus]

I think that Norma Jean are okay but I havn't liked what i've heard from The Chariot.

[WakingTheMisery]

the chariots live show makes up for shitty recordings.

[xgloryxfadesx27]

Never actually listened to them

[FASSWcore]

the chariots live show makes up for shitty recordings.
hells yeah

[brutusUbastard]

Just got back from seeing them. One of the best live shows I've seen this year. The guitarist threw an amp across stage in the middle of a song and kept kicking them over later and they did a feedback/instrumental session for a few minutes in the middle of a song. Damn good show.

[KarolaBloch]

The new Unsung EP was supposed to be a present for my friend, but curiously i opened to see how this band was...
The worst hardcore band ive ever come across, it all one big annoying breakdown and so messingly put together

and other thoughts..?
i enjoy all forms of the chariot. i think they are good. i'll let you have your opinion.. but they aren't a hardcore band. so don't make posts trash talking until you get your shit right.

[xglassjawx]

Norma Jean are a bajillion times better imo, bayonetwork is such an awesome song

[Ratherbedead22]

god fucking awful band. they were entertaining live, but it didnt make up for their shittiness.

[I.O]

The devil is in atlantaaaaaaa

[fromwithin]

everyone's right, they're not hardcore. they're meant to be brutal, in your face, just pounding and pulsating. your opinion would change if you wouldve seen them with two guitarists. their live show now isn't anything like it used to be.

[Ratherbedead22]

everyone's right, they're not hardcore. they're meant to be brutal, in your face, just pounding and pulsating. your opinion would change if you wouldve seen them with two guitarists. their live show now isn't anything like it used to be.

i saw them with two guitarists live and it was good. but they still suck as a band.

[bkweller]

the chariot is the shit. so glad i saw them in december.

[Emopunkthrice]

Josh Scogin with Norma Jean is better...I can't get into new Norma Jean. the chariot does put on a sweet show, I dunno if anyone remembers the youngblood tour with he is legend showbread as cities burn far-less and bradley hathaway, but that was sick...But I wonder if anybody has the same problem at your school, where every 1/20 kids has that damn chariot hot topic shirt.

[Danny Schme]

*Bumping The Chariot thread*

I searched, this is the only thread that came up. Sooo how are people feeling the new track? I for one was hoping for them to return to the style used on their first full legnth. Solid song in my opinion though.

[Danny Schme]

It didn't ruin the band for me but it was a BIG let down.

[hotdamn!]

by the new song are you talking elvish presley or w.e?

[KarolaBloch]

ugh thier new stuff is baaad.
i don't really listen to them anymore, i just like the band members... well the old ones.

[x togepi x]

like a lot of the other people responding, i think this band fucking sucks on record but is pretty fun to watch live. sadly, i wouldn't like botch had i never seen these guys.

[Danny Schme]

by the new song are you talking elvish presley or w.e?

The new song is titled "They Faced Each Other".

[Geldofpunk]

I don't mind this band, but I wouldn't go out of my way to see them live. The record (full length) isn't as bad as you guys say it is, but it isn't great either.

[minustheeric]

Bad recording; talented band.

[iHATEapril]

Not as "messingly" put together as that post.

[Danny Schme]

I really like the new song. I still don't own the full legnth though. Its always sold out or not in stock when I go to pick it up :-(

[iHATEapril]

I think they're good enough, not amazing or anything.

[Danny Schme]

I'm a music slut. I like wayyy too many bands that shouldn't deserve to be listened to.

[iHATEapril]

Haha, like Chiodos.

[Danny Schme]

EXACTLY like Chiodos... and Saosin... and Scary Kids Scaring Kids

I have one band that I enjoy and shall never mention on this site haha.

[iHATEapril]

Oh god, you like some shitty stuff hha.

[Danny Schme]

My music tastes are all over the board. I like enough good stuff to outweigh the bads.

And if you don't think so just keep the fact that I don't like CIWWAF, Aiden, Hawthorne or Panic! haha. I'm not THAT bad. Close... but not that bad haha

[iHATEapril]

haha, I used to like CIWWAF a lot.

[Danny Schme]

haha, I used to like CIWWAF a lot.

Awww, its okay Mike. Wanna talk about it?

... and you jugded me...

[iHATEapril]

Haha, I used to like lotssss of shitty stuff.

[Danny Schme]

I used to be a lot worse. like... 3 years go. It was a bad time full of UnderOATH and Atreyu. My crossover band serise if you will.

[iHATEapril]

Haha, I like Underoath still.

[Danny Schme]

You can do a lot worse than UnderOATH. I just don't enjoy them anymore. Define The Great Line was a solid release. Great Line > The Changing of Times > Cries of the Past > Act of Depression > Chasing Safety

For me at least.

[youcomebeforeyo]

The EP is brilliant.

Such a good piece of heavy music. The riffing is fantastic, lyrics outstanding and it's heavy as hell.

It shits all over Everything...

That said Fiance will own both.

[Danny Schme]

The EP is brilliant.

Such a good piece of heavy music. The riffing is fantastic, lyrics outstanding and it's heavy as hell.

It shits all over Everything...

That said Fiance will own both.

Why do you like the EP better than Everything? It's rare to hear that. I personaly feel they butchered "The Company The Comfort The Grave" on Unsung.

[youcomebeforeyo]

Why do you like the EP better than Everything? It's rare to hear that. I personaly feel they butchered "The Company The Comfort The Grave" on Unsung.

The EP is just so much more effective. The album is over feedbacked and by track 3/4 any effect of brutallity is lost on me.

The re-worked versions of the songs are a lot more effective too. Before there was.... is incredible on the EP version.

The new song They Faced Each Other is pretty awesome.

[MIKEY_HORROR]

i dont mind them.. i kind of like the raw recording style they go with...and they put on a really good show..

[Danny Schme]

I've heard they can't play well live and that they just go nuts on stage. I hope they can actually hold it together live. I haven't seen them yet.

[Rich Duncan]

I used to be crazy about this band, but I have since stopped listening. I thought the new song was okay, but I probably won't be picking up the album.

[MIKEY_HORROR]

I've heard they can't play well live and that they just go nuts on stage. I hope they can actually hold it together live. I haven't seen them yet.


they dont sound bad....a little sloppy..but as much as they are spinning/jumping/falling/flailing i think it is about impossible to be dead on.

[Danny Schme]

I'd rather them go crazy like that live and be a little off then just stand still. Sounds like I should be happy with their live show.

[NEP633]

i like..they sound alot like real old norma jean

[indexfor...]

im not a fan, but seeing them live would be fun

[Danny Schme]

I'm seeing them w/ Norma Jean on April 11th. I know NJ isn't widely likes here but I am pumped.

[NEP633]

id like to see them live..ive watched some of their live videos and they're crazy...but i cant stand the new norma jean

[Danny Schme]

I like the first 3 or 4 tracks. Goes downhill from there.

[Drew Beringer]

I dig The Chariot a lot.

[Troggy]

i enjoy them. it sounds like a big fun ruckus. a ruckus. yes. that's nice isn't it.

[Danny Schme]

I like the word ruckus haha

[fromwithin]

you will be disappointed with their live show I think, unless they got two guitarists again.

[NEP633]

why aint the chariot hardcore

[Danny Schme]

Do they sound like any current hardcore bands?

[This_Is_The_End]

I like the word ruckus haha

BRING THE MOTHERFUCKIN RUCKUS

wu tang clan ain't nothin to fuck wit

[Danny Schme]

BRING THE MOTHERFUCKIN RUCKUS

wu tang clan ain't nothin to fuck wit

Dolla Dolla billz ya'll.

[NEP633]

kinda depends on who you define as hardcore.

[Danny Schme]

kinda depends on who you define as hardcore.

Current hardcore, This Is Hell, Comeback Kid, Bane, Betrayed, Righeous Jams, Have Heart, Guns Up! etc.

[NEP633]

oh...true

[Danny Schme]

indeed.

[redsand62]

haha, I used to like CIWWAF a lot.


buddy icon much? ;-)

[iHATEapril]

Hahahaha, I'm hitting 10k tonight Tommy.

[Danny Schme]

I hit 800, so I'm good. Congrats in advance Mike.

[iHATEapril]

Haha thanks a buncherz.

[NickBender]

the chariot is the most pretentious mix of static, feedback, shitty instrumentation, barking, and an occasional attempt at a somewhat decent breakdown: and extremely opague lyrics coined as "artistic" or "spiritual".

[youcomebeforeyo]

the chariot is the most pretentious mix of static, feedback, shitty instrumentation, barking, and an occasional attempt at a somewhat decent breakdown: and extremely opague lyrics coined as "artistic" or "spiritual".

Listen to Unsung EP.

They dropped the pretention.

[indexfor...]

dude they have a song title thats a paragraph long, thats reserved for post-rock bands and post-rock bands only!

[x togepi x]

every band that plays on stage is pretentious.

[NickBender]

Listen to Unsung EP.

They dropped the pretention.

i'm aware. but that still leaves the lyrics and unoriginal music. it sounds like norma jean but just different enough have a different name, and norma jean sounds exactly like coalesce.

coalesce > the chariot > norma jean

sean ingram > josh scoggin

[eraserhead]

I like metalcore and everything but sometimes it's a little too chaotic/gross-sounding for me, sometimes I have to draw a line somewhere.

That line is The Chariot.

Norma Jean's alright though...Memphis Will Be Laid to Waste is a kickass song

[Danny Schme]

dude they have a song title thats a paragraph long, thats reserved for post-rock bands and post-rock bands only!

That might be the longest song title I have ever seen.

"Someday, In The Event That Mankind Actually Figures Out What It Is That This World Revolves Around, Thousands Of People Are Going To Be Shocked And Perplexed To Find Out That It Was Not Them. Sometimes This Includes Me."

[Danny Schme]

I guess.

[Danny Schme]

You're deff. not the first person to say that. It's a common complaint. All those random screeching guitar notes threw in the midst of plam muted zeros could annoy anyone/

[Danny Schme]

They give me the impression that they feel their band is the absolute shit and was sent by god to make music.

Ha! God I hope they don't think like that :-)

[Danny Schme]

Its just the impression they give me.

I know, I was just saying.

[youcomebeforeyo]

i'm aware. but that still leaves the lyrics and unoriginal music. it sounds like norma jean but just different enough have a different name, and norma jean sounds exactly like coalesce.

coalesce > the chariot > norma jean

sean ingram > josh scoggin

The Chariot sound nothing like Norma Jean.

I'm doubting if you've ever listened to a release by either band now.

[Danny Schme]

The Chariot sound nothing like Norma Jean.

I'm doubting if you've ever listened to a release by either band now.

Recording style no, overall the general idea is very similar.

[a speedo model]

Their video with the one guy beating his guitar and shit pisses me off to no end.

[Danny Schme]

Music video or recorded live show? (I don't know if they even have a music video)

[NEP633]

ive seen a video for the company, the comfort, the grave...i think

[Danny Schme]

Like I said, I didn't even know they had one. Link? If not I'll find it tomorrow.

[NEP633]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7jdSHNQV38

[youcomebeforeyo]

So I just found out on Zambooie that the Chariot have a DVD. I see it's 2005, is it any good?

[feigningapology]

So I just found out on Zambooie that the Chariot have a DVD. I see it's 2005, is it any good?

I actually wonder if they still sell it on tour considering Josh is the only remaining member of the version of the band on the dvd. I think that the DVD is actually on the full length if you don't automatically open it into winamp or itunes, and goto my computer and right click to "explore" the disc. Should be an .mov file.

[feigningapology]

i saw them with two guitarists live and it was good. but they still suck as a band.

Please, clarify this statement for me. I've never understood how a band can put on a performance that's deemed entertaining to the individual, but then deem the entity that performed as shitty, sucky, etc.

[feigningapology]

Current hardcore, This Is Hell, Comeback Kid, Bane, Betrayed, Righeous Jams, Have Heart, Guns Up! etc.

Those bands are merely the proprietors of the posi-core, noticeable bass tones, fast 3 chord riffs, and a Bridge Nine/edge culture originally found in NY and New England. Just because they carry on an 80s style of hardcore doesn't mean genres don't expand boundaries. Granted, maybe they're carrying on a purist style, but the "don't mix my metal/thrash with hardcore" attitude is kind of lame to witness. Can there be no hybrids such as metalcore? Do you have to have a crew to be hardcore? There's so many split offs and variants, all the pegging bands as white or black is just kind of irritating and mind boggling. Will you ever see The Chariot playing with Bane, Sick of It All, or Integrity, probably not, but you probably won't see them player with Slayer, or some Swedish death metal band. Almost everything nowadays is an amalgamation of different sub genres.

[NickBender]

The Chariot sound nothing like Norma Jean.

I'm doubting if you've ever listened to a release by either band now.

the only real difference is the guitar feedback and the drumming. the vocals are identical. a musically uneductaed person would call the chariot more "grindcore" than norma jean but that wouldn't be correct. the chariot = norma jean on steroids

i have seen both bands live and use to own copies of "bless the martyr..." and "this title is way too long to type, much less memorize.." i have never listened to anything after "bless the martyr.." so that may be why you disagree with my point.

[x togepi x]

Those bands are merely the proprietors of the posi-core, noticeable bass tones, fast 3 chord riffs, and a Bridge Nine/edge culture originally found in NY and New England. Just because they carry on an 80s style of hardcore doesn't mean genres don't expand boundaries. Granted, maybe they're carrying on a purist style, but the "don't mix my metal/thrash with hardcore" attitude is kind of lame to witness. Can there be no hybrids such as metalcore? Do you have to have a crew to be hardcore? There's so many split offs and variants, all the pegging bands as white or black is just kind of irritating and mind boggling. Will you ever see The Chariot playing with Bane, Sick of It All, or Integrity, probably not, but you probably won't see them player with Slayer, or some Swedish death metal band. Almost everything nowadays is an amalgamation of different sub genres.

If it's a hybrid, it's not hardcore. it's pretty easy to understand.

[Danny Schme]

If it's a hybrid, it's not hardcore. it's pretty easy to understand.

Thank you. I didn't see the post before now.

[cortezthekilla]

they aren't hardcore...
i hate how people talk about their full length and how there is feedback from the guitars.
they recorded it live in the studio, besides vocals. they wanted it to have a live feel.

[youcomebeforeyo]

the only real difference is the guitar feedback and the drumming. the vocals are identical. a musically uneductaed person would call the chariot more "grindcore" than norma jean but that wouldn't be correct. the chariot = norma jean on steroids

i have seen both bands live and use to own copies of "bless the martyr..." and "this title is way too long to type, much less memorize.." i have never listened to anything after "bless the martyr.." so that may be why you disagree with my point.

The vocals are identical because the vocalist on Bless the Martyr is Josh Scogin.

The vocalist of the Chariot just happens to be... Josh Scogin.

Hahahahaha.

[mht]

the chariot?! more like THE BIBLE THUMPING WRAITH OF SCOGIN SHOW AMIRITE?!

[Matthew Tsai]

yeeyee the chariot! for those of you who try to compare them to converge, sry. the chariot is in a hardcore class all by themselves. they aren't even really hardcore.

[mht]

MORE LIKE A BIBLE CLASS THEMSELVES AMIRITe!

[NickBender]

MORE LIKE A BIBLE CLASS THEMSELVES AMIRITe!

yurrite!

[NickBender]

godcore.

haha. yeah.

breakin' it down for xjesusx

[NickBender]

and the "grind" as the misinformed say.

[NickBender]

the way they work the keyboards in just makes me nut in an ambigous and somehow religious way.

[NickBender]

hell yeah for naming bands after books that became movies with meryl streep (but the band was named when it was only a book!!1!1) but either way the name has absolutely no meaning!

xjesusx

[indexfor...]

hey r u guys into xXxCHRISTxXxCORExXx, omfg so am i


gawd the chariot arnt grind, their powerviolence durrrr


(oh funny story, my friends band Bear Garden played with the Devil wears Prada, they are a real skramz band but just wanted to play a show in St. Cloud so they didn't care who it was with, anyways BG's vocalist Evan walks up to the bassist of tDWP and asks him how he liked the set, and the fucking dick didn't even know it was him was just up their playing, AND HE WATCHED THE ENTIRE THING, anyways from what they told me, tDWP got all the fucking money and BG barely got enough to drive back to Duluth, i guess God favors christians like tDWP and hates atheists like BG)

[NickBender]

agreed.

old underoath (cries from the past) - christian black metal? there is no such thing.

[utgjames]

THE CHARIOT is one of the greatest bands pulsating the brutalist metal out there. They could kill you with their sound. Josh Scogin is a god.

[BGP]

THE CHARIOT is one of the greatest bands pulsating the brutalist metal out there. They could kill you with their sound. Josh Scogin is a god.
hahaha are you serious?

[NickBender]

THE CHARIOT is one of the greatest bands pulsating the brutalist metal out there. They could kill you with their sound. Josh Scogin is a god.

brutalist? josh scoggin can only dream of being half as good as sean ingram. i've seen them way to many times, and i was not killed.

[crowdofone]

I was looking into downloading some Norma Jean and The Chariot stuff.
So if i could get people's opinions who generally like the band, that'd be great.
Is Norma Jean's first the only good one?
And What Chariot stuff is good?

[itsbrandonrofl]

I was looking into downloading some Norma Jean and The Chariot stuff.
So if i could get people's opinions who generally like the band, that'd be great.
Is Norma Jean's first the only good one?
And What Chariot stuff is good?
the first norma jean album is by far my favorite
didnt like the second one but redeemer was pretty good

as for the chariot, both full length albums are good
havent listened to the ep
my favorite song is "and then came then" off everything is alive....

[Regards]

Norma Jean is a big pile o' poo compared to the Chariot.

And the EP is their best CD hands down. I would start with that, then get The Fiance' and then their debut.

[itsbrandonrofl]

i think its funny how the best metalcore coming out these days is by christian bands

[IWasaCamera]

i think its funny how the best metalcore coming out these days is by christian bands
It's far funnier how metalcore blows through and through.

[Getup and Dance]

i think its funny how the best metalcore coming out these days is by christian bands

No

Every Time I Die>>>>>>>>The Chariot

[downtotheriver]

Love these guys.

[downtotheriver]

Religion should be banned from the genres of metal and punk. They were set up against that kind of thing.
Lol at how stupid you are.

[Wyatt!!!]

Norma Jean's first album is perfect.

The chariot is gold as well, Josh Scogin knows how to write good metalcore. The Fiancee is pretty good but the production is a lot cleaer compared to Everything Is Alive.... On their first album the rawness of it gives it the goods.

[downtotheriver]

Nazi Reggae.

People should just leave their personal lives, emotions, feelings and beliefs out of their lyrics, you're entirely correct.

[micahistheballs]

Nazi Reggae.
I just pictured a dreadlocked Hitler smoking doobies with Bob Marley and lol'd.

[downtotheriver]

I just pictured a dreadlocked Hitler smoking doobies with Bob Marley and lol'd.

I just pictured an open minded less idiotic version of Ben and lol'd.

[micahistheballs]

I just pictured an open minded less idiotic version of Ben and lol'd.
Zing!

[SickOfStars]

We Are Not The Romans

[handlikesecret]

i love these guys. their debut album is great. from what i hear, they're great live too.

[handlikesecret]

Yeah they're great live if you enjoy a fat ginger man telling you what to think.
i dig. :shrug:

[SickOfStars]

Yeah they're great live if you enjoy a fat ginger man telling you what to think.

my best friend is a heavyset ginger man and he's the coolest person in the whole wide world

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