April Mayhem Round 2: Muse vs. Weezer vs. The Used

[Anton Djamoos]

Which band is your favorite?

[hydraulicheart]

I'm just bitter Weezer beat mewithoutYou, and I never got into Muse.

[Say Hello 87]

whenever there is a decent UK rock band in any contest on here, im all for them.

[The Summer Ends]

Weezer, hell yes

[SilenceBrokenTT]

Muse. Too easy.

[drudo182]

The Used.

[kianacarly]

So easily Muse.

[theguy77]

a week ago, weezer would have been my choice. however, megan (shes fantastic <3) beseeched that i give muse's latest album a chance right in the nick of time. i was incredibly surprised and impressed, before i didnt think they were half the band they proved they were. also, from what ive seen on youtube videos they are hands down the most accurate live band i know of.

[DejaNew]

Tough, but I had to go with Muse.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Muse. Fuck Weezer and their 1.75 good albums.

[:-)]

Holy shit if Muse doesn't win...

[theguy77]

also,

:lol: the used :rotfl:

[Chris Fallon]

I am a Weezer loyalist.

[RAMROD85]

It's been 15 years and I can still rock the blue album and love every second of it.

so. no contest.

[WhoSaidThat?]

Ft=w=

[boysandbulletsx]

I had to go with Muse. I've never been a fan of Weezer. And I don't have to say anything about The Used, because what I would say would be very mean.

[jbaseball44]

Weezer, because they made the only album i like by any of these bands

[XEmoBoyShandorX]

Weezer.

[ericsounds41]

Weezer for sure.

[theguy77]

oh shit... megan's gonna be sad to see weezer pulling this one away.

[TheOtherAndrew]

also,

:lol: the used :rotfl:
this

[Nick Le]

I love Weezer.

[PatVaughn]

i don't care what anyone says about The Used. they're awesome. those three albums have so much meaning for me. but whatever, Weezer is obviously winning this one.

[Keagan Ilvonen]

Weezer because the Blue album and Pinkerton stick with me more than anything Muse has done. Although I do love Muse.

[Anton Djamoos]

Muse, no doubt. I'm actually surprised that they're losing this badly to Weezer. Seems to me there are just more people that have listened to Weezer over Muse.

[After Hours]

The Used is scarily close to Muse.

[boomerangslang]

Glad to see Weezer has the early lead. Just hope this trend continues.

[ashiex3]

I can't seem to get into Muse and I don't like The Used, so Weezer got my vote.
Plus, I've had El Scorcho stuck in my head for days.

[makeshiftmind]

Weezer, I like the Muse, but Weezer was one of my first bands I listened to

[Ryzenfall]

Tough between Muse and Weezer. But I listen to Muse more and, somehow, got into them before Weezer.

The Used is awful.

[Broclee]

It should be neck and neck between Weezer and Muse. Both are great.

[drailskid]

Muse!

[bouttogetfancy]

weezer by such a long shot

[Hamlet]

Any band that releases a song called "The Greatest Man That Ever Lived", featuring the lyrics "I am the greatest man that ever lived", has already won the whole competition.

[katieissweet]

Weezer.

[TheGoodnightMoon]

Muse should be killing this.

[theguy77]

muse are better but weezer is a very respectable pop-rock band. its no outrage to me that they're winning.

[Chromefox]

Cast for Muse so easily.

oh shit... megan's gonna be sad to see weezer pulling this one away. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW.

Actually, I didn't even expect Muse to beat Glassjaw, so whatever.

[AndrewIcex]

Weezer can't be touched. yes yes.

[Broden Terry]

Muse.

[CiaraX]

Muse.
=]

[coryatlarge]

weezer. but muse are cool i just dont have as much nostalgia for them

[Shatter_Glass]

It's been 15 years and I can still rock the blue album and love every second of it.

so. no contest.


false. major contest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWDqY7VSA_g

[WordzandDreamz]

see username and avatar...

[Altwav]

museliness is next to godliness

[Chromefox]

false. major contest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWDqY7VSA_g I love you and the videos you've been posting tonight.

[burrito]

lolol =W=

[rickbarrera]

Pinkerton is way better than any record done by weezer and by any other band in these poll, muse mmmm good band but never beeen really into them (doesn't make them bad, I actually think they are going to be remembered as one of the greatest UK bands along Pink floyd, the Who, The Police, Led Zeppelin, Radiohead and many other GREAT UK BANDS when time comes by)

[Imperfektion]

Muse

[Jamos4184]

a week ago, weezer would have been my choice. however, megan (shes fantastic <3) beseeched that i give muse's latest album a chance right in the nick of time. i was incredibly surprised and impressed, before i didnt think they were half the band they proved they were. also, from what ive seen on youtube videos they are hands down the most accurate live band i know of.


You definitely need to check out HAARP. The guys freaking sold out Wembley 2 days in a row (I believe it's over 40,000 people). Absolutely incredible concert DVD, after watching it for the first time it further infuriated me that the last time they were in the States they had to open for MCR. Unfortunately, I don' t think they will win this round.

[Chromefox]

You definitely need to check out HAARP. The guys freaking sold out Wembley 2 days in a row (I believe it's over 40,000 people). Absolutely incredible concert DVD, after watching it for the first time it further infuriated me that the last time they were in the States they had to open for MCR. Unfortunately, I don' t think they will win this round. 60,000 people. ;-)

[dancelukedance]

I picked The Used, i DO NOT like muse at all, the singers voice gets annoying.

[Broclee]

I picked The Used, i DO NOT like muse at all, the singers voice gets annoying.
Weezer's in this, too.

And, this is just my opinion, but picking The Used because you think Muse's singer's voice is annoying is hilariously ironic.

[Shatter_Glass]

I love you and the videos you've been posting tonight.

Well thank you Canada. Stockholm Syndrome is in my top ten favorite songs of all time, so simply put: it had to see the light in this thread ;-)

[dancelukedance]

Weezer's in this, too.

And, this is just my opinion, but picking The Used because you think Muse's singer's voice is annoying is hilariously ironic.

I haven't listened to much weezer, so i'm obviously not gonna pick them. It's quite aMUSEing

[Chromefox]

Well thank you Canada. Stockholm Syndrome is in my top ten favorite songs of all time, so simply put: it had to see the light in this thread ;-) Tit for tat, here's a video of one of my own favourites.

zjZEOEKr-DI

[jcoop05]

Eh, not really a competition for me. I like Weezer but they don't match up to Muse imo.

[nfmbf]

i can absorb weezer.. so does muse..i adore 2 first albums from the used. but the third one is crappy to me. so, i chose for the used. haha

[RAMROD85]

hahaha i always laugh when people post videos. LISTEN TO THIS!!!

ha. I've listened to Muse. I just dont see a contest against Weezer, IMO of course. I like the mellowness (is that a word?) to weezer's albums. And weezer = high school.

I feel bad that the used is taking a verbal beating. I can't say much about them... I'll check out their set at bamboozle and decide if I think the thrashing is justified.

[Chromefox]

It's not just the song I wanted to share, but the performance.

[RAMROD85]

It's not just the song I wanted to share, but the performance.
I get it, so I wasn't being a douche, it just makes me laugh... because I think it's funny. but I get it, really.

[notoaststereo]

weezer

[CarouselBoy]

I guess i'm not surprised Weezer is in the lead but Muse is by far the more talented band IMO

[GuitarR0cker1]

I am going all the way with Weezer but the fact they are having this bad of a performance against a mediocre and shitty band saddens me.

[Chromefox]

I am going all the way with Weezer but the fact they are having this bad of a performance against a mediocre and shitty band saddens me. Before I come down to Idaho to blow a spaz at you, which band is which?

[GuitarR0cker1]

Before I blow a spaz at you, which band is which?
The Used is obviously the shitty one. haha I am amused you thought that I might say that Muse the shitty one.

[Chromefox]

The Used is obviously the shitty one. haha I am amused you thought that I might say that Muse the shitty one. Actually, I got my threads mixed up and thought someone else was in the Used's place.

In any event, I disagree about Muse being "mediocre". Even if you don't like them, you can't deny the kind of performance they put on live.

[GuitarR0cker1]

Actually, I got my threads mixed up and thought someone else was in the Used's place.

In any event, I disagree about Muse being "mediocre". Even if you don't like them, you can't deny the kind of performance they put on live.
Oh no I love their live stuff, I just think their music is pretty mediocre. I think Stockholm Syndrome is a jam too. Their music just really never appealed to me much.

[The Raine]

Muse.

[Chromefox]

Oh no I love their live stuff, I just think their music is pretty mediocre. I think Stockholm Syndrome is a jam too. Their music just really never appealed to me much. I think Muse are for sure a live band. I lost a lot of interest in them over 6/7 months until I refreshed my memory on a ton of live vids, and was blown away all over again. Though, I disagree about the music being sub-par, unless you mean in comparison to their live versions.

[VIVALAMATT]

I'm just bitter Weezer beat mewithoutYou, and I never got into Muse.

I'm sorta bitter that Muse beat Glassjaw.

Anywho, I'm going with Weezer. Muse is great, but come on..it's Weezer!

[irthesteve]

Weez>Used>Muse

[AussieBoy]

3 years ago id say The Used, but ive been won over by Muse when i saw them at BigDayOut 07

fuck Weezer

[b4_dRun]

Muse, My first concert was them

[perfectstranger]

shit vs shit vs shit.. but weezer had pinkerton

[EliteCombine]

I'm going with The Used, I just always find them to be the more enjoyable band to listen to, that's all.

[Dagless]

Muse, although its a tough choice between Muse and Weezer.

[pblest]

Weezer for me. I recently got back most of their stuff, the only album I can't stand is Make Believe and The Red Album was a very solid pop rock record.

[Olympia]

Muse by far, also, I was unaware that the band had a Wiki. Plus, I'm a graphic design nerd and if any band has artwork by Jasper Goodall, then they get my vote
http://artsresearch.brighton.ac.uk/about-us/150-anniversary/exhibition/Jasper_Goodall.jpg/image

[Cue the Sun]

Muse.

[brokenhats]

im actually shocked muse is losing, they are amazingly good

[_><_]

Muse.

[Poochemist]

Weezer has such a great library. Muse would be a close second for me, but they don't fill me with joy like listening to Weezer.

[tom_q]

I was so relieved to see that Weezer are in their rightful place so far.

[bloodflowers]

Weezer's overrated.

[stereokiller]

Whoa. Um... Can anyone help me? I accidentally chose The Used. I didn't realize that the radio button was on The Used. =|

Weezer. =|

Lol. I hate this day.

[Dr. Acula]

Muse. Fuck Weezer and their 1.75 good albums.

This.

[just.Starla.]

Weezer for sure.

[hockeyguitar99]

Weezer for sure.

[mmmmmpoetry]

I went with weezer, because muse reminds me of my chemical romance for some reason.

[beth danger]

=w=

Weezer can (and has) put out shit for the remainder of their careers, but they win my vote against any band in this entire competition based completely on Blue and Pinkerton.

[Shin Akuma]

muse are by FAR ... more talented .. one of the best bands on the planet at the moment in every way ...!

[color_coded]

Weezer.

[topher465]

Never really got into Weezer.

[Michifoxx]

Weezer...

[fiercetown]

Muse.

[jtyexists9]

The Used? What the F.

[Jamos4184]

I picked The Used, i DO NOT like muse at all, the singers voice gets annoying.

Hahahahaha. Such a weak argument considering Bert McCracken's voice......

[kwsqd]

Weezer is terribly, terribly over-rated, but they should rightfully win this poll.

[dancelukedance]

Hahahahaha. Such a weak argument considering Bert McCracken's voice......

I'm not arguing, i don't like the muse vocalists voice

[Indoor Living]

None of my picks are winning. Muse is way more behind than I would've guessed.

[DaveZeroZero]

I don't like Muse or The Used, so I went with Weezer, even though I really don't understand the excitement about them.

[Kevtron650]

I guess i'm not surprised Weezer is in the lead but Muse is by far the more talented band IMO

rivers is better at guitar and brian is better at guitar.

[nickthehick2]

Weezer. How can you even put The Used with these 2?

[owiseone35]

Weezer FTW

[RonStoppable]

I really like Weezer, but Muse is astounding.

[fadedmemories]

Went with the band that introduced me to music, The Used.

[Krupt]

Muse will rape your grandmother.

[lenard27]

Everything Muse has put out has been stellar.

[Everiggs]

Weezer.

[COTA]

Weezer

[fadedmemories]

The Used would've won this by a mile 5 years ago.

[foisol]

Muse, no contest.

[DaveZeroZero]

The Used are to blame for the Bush administration.

[fran.182]

Weezer easily...

The Used is second but a really far 2nd...

Not much into Muse...

[erinfxs]

Muse, I maybe listen to Weezer a bit more yet I kinda prefer Muse.

[Galedeep]

The Used, yeah I said it.

Out of these three? Yup. Don't listen to Muse (for a reason, not a big fan) and Weezer I have never ever liked. The Used I actually used to love back in the day. So they get it.

[CarryOn09]

muse. their live dvd sells me on them.

[Melkor]

Muse. I don't love any of the bands but Muse's live show took me from indifference to actually enjoying their albums a lot because it was so brilliant. Plus, there is an argument that their latest album is their best. Can't be said for the other two.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

Went with the band that introduced me to music, The Used.

I bet music wishes it had met you some other way.

Muse> The Blue Album > Weezer > Island in the Sun > The Used

[Broclee]

I bet music wishes it had met you some other way.

Muse> The Blue Album > Weezer > Island in the Sun > The Used
I think you mean:

Muse>The Blue Album>>Weezer>Island in the Sun>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Used.

[fadedmemories]

I bet music wishes it had met you some other way.

Muse> The Blue Album > Weezer > Island in the Sun > The Used
The Used's Self titled album is possibly, the greatest album in that genre. The way that Bert utilized the sing-scream technique in that album gives me goosebumps. The lyrics are some of the most personal I've ever read.

[jbaseball44]

I bet music wishes it had met you some other way.

Muse> The Blue Album > Weezer > Island in the Sun > The Used
haha, sadly it's true.

[zubinmoosa]

Weezy

[AEast317]

weezer

[Shin Akuma]

I went with weezer, because muse reminds me of my chemical romance for some reason.


you are an idiot then! or DEAF!!!

[Sief]

Weezer or muse, kinda hard... I went with muse though.

[gladnads]

weezer is bad. At least Muse can keep putting out good stuff.

[George-Michael]

The Mused

[YouMeHimAndHer]

I hate Muse so Weezer all the way!

[Xianmusicfan]

Muse is 10 times better musically than Weezer and 100 times better than the Used, this isn't even a contest for me.

[mmmmmpoetry]

you are an idiot then! or DEAF!!!

Hahah neither actually.

[WFUJerseyJon]

Like Muse a lot, but Weezer is the easy choice.

[stereokiller]

The Mused

lol. i actually did the math and realized that The Mused would get 51% votes.

The Mused > Weezer

lol.

[yves.]

Muse. Too easy.
yup.

[youngmountain]

Went with muse, although i find them slightly overrated, a bit too melodramatic and I have always seen them as a bit of a radiohead copy.

[sheslostcontrol]

Muse. Why is Weezer winning? I've never liked them.

[Protested Hero]

Definitely Muse. Weezer has gone retarded the past few albums, same with The Used.

[atticusfinch]

Weezer, even though they beat mwY. Muse is just kinda meh for me, and fuck the used.

[flyingmonkey711]

There are too many good bands per vote in this round. You're killing me Anton....

[travis113p]

Muse. Fuck Weezer and their 1.75 good albums.

trueeee.

[blimpcityhero11]

I've been busting out the Weezer discography recently, and they are certainly my favorite in this grouping...

[Troggy]

Gotta say I actually agree with the results of this poll. Listened to Pinkerton a few times the other day, what a great record.

[tonighttonight0]

Weezer

[WasteofPaint31]

easiest poll of the week. Weezer

[spunkmastaflex]

Weezer gets my vote, however i do enjoy The Used, but Weezer is just one of those bands that you got to give props to. I did find the used hilarious on Taste of Chaos tho when they were making fun of 30 secs to mars nonstop because of their douchebaggery

[Kgod]

Fuck.

I pick the used, apparently for the lose =(

[Emmettess]

Definately Muse!!!

[bdil]

I love Weezer far too much to vote for any other band here, though Muse is also pretty good.

[circatbs]

.....the used

[TalkShowsOnMute]

I forgot Muse was in this but this is an easy vote for them.

[MickShamrock]

The Used.

[cscwell107]

Muse is way overrated. I went with Weezer.

[ppt4895]

the used

[denissuxx]

Tough tough choice.

[SlappedActor]

Weezer has been dead to me for a long time now, but that doesn't change the fact that The Blue Album and Pinkerton are miles and miles ahead of anything Muse or The Used have ever done (or will ever do).

[Mibabalou]

weezah

[Machu505]

Weezer.

[TheClockSounds]

Weezer, easy choice

[Alex DiVincenzo]

The Used because their first CD was an obsession of mine when it was released

[littlebeav]

Muse. Too good. Seriously. Weezer? Meh. Trendy crap I never really cared for. Grats for being a scene staple and all, but I'm giving my vote to the guys that wrote Supermassive Black Hole.

[Bruised26]

Muse is very musically talented, but I grew up on The Used. So...the Used, but its a tough call

[Chromefox]

It's really embarrassing how close Muse and the Used are in this poll to one another.

[Formatfun]

Weezer has better music than these bands and I'm pretty sure they're really good guys, so they should definitely win this round.

[diehtc0ke]

Thank God this is finally one I can get behind. Weezer blows the other two away.

[Undue Noise]

Muse has to win.

[fowruok]

Weezer, despite the decided lack of tolerable songs released in the past decade. I do like the other two bands as well, though.

[Broclee]

Muse. Too good. Seriously. Weezer? Meh. Trendy crap I never really cared for. Grats for being a scene staple and all, but I'm giving my vote to the guys that wrote Supermassive Black Hole.

Muse is much more of a scene staple than Weezer.

[Chromefox]

Muse is much more of a scene staple than Weezer. Lolwut.

[new_arbiter]

Weezer. I don't mind Muse, but I've never really liked an entire album of theirs.

[2 fly and shy]

Muse is a great band, but my undying love for Weezer will not allow me to vote against them.

The Used come in a very distant third here.

[Theseventhson]

Had to go with Weezer, even though they should've been beaten by mwY last round.

[world_is_static]

=w=

[Sikbeat37]

Such a toss up between Muse and Weezer, but I had to go with Muse.

[sargentlgfuad]

this is an outrage.

[trevorshmevor]

We Were As Good As Married In My Mind, But Married In My Mind Is No Good.

[MCSmate]

weezer

[Talib Scottie]

Weezer. Absolution does not outweigh Blue Album and Pinkerton.

[handlikesecret]

Weezer by a long shot.

[TotalCollapse]

Weezer

[PenThrive]

Although I can't stand the last couple Weezer recs, they were schweet way back.

[PopPunkKid]

Weezer winning is 100% deserved.

I do like me The Used, but compared to Weezer, no chance... and I like a few Muse songs, but unlike my friends, I could never totally get into them for some reason.

[PopPunkKid]

Muse is much more of a scene staple than Weezer.


Haha... sorry, but how so?

Pretty much every pop-punk/emo band to come out in the past 10 years has cited The Blue Album and/or Pinkerton as major influences.

Muse may be more popular in the UK, but in America, they've really only been popular for the past 4 or 5 years, whereas Weezer have been relevant for 15 years now.

[lesto17]

=w=

[Curtis&BemisRok]

I saw Weezer twice and they amazed me both times. And Pinkerton is genius

[Curtis&BemisRok]

We Were As Good As Married In My Mind, But Married In My Mind Is No Good.

you've got the right idea

[ThisIsNotDan]

Weezer definetly.

[xheartdenterx]

Weezer. Great band. The Blue Album is amazing. Funny thing is, I actually like The Used a lot... But Weezer > The Used. Always.

[KyleMcr]

Muse, absolutely NO CONTEST

[briewer]

Weezer's two great albums beat out Muse's career of mediocrity and stealing Radiohead's sound.

And I won't mention the used because duh, they suck.

[Chromefox]

Weezer's two great albums beat out Muse's career of mediocrity and stealing Radiohead's sound. This is just a cop-out excuse to dislike Muse, relied upon as an insult by people who haven't listened to more than a few songs by either band. All the two bands have in common are falsetto vocals, which are barely comparable. Muse is a rock based, pop-focused band with minimal use of electronics and noise to create pop hooks, as opposed to Radiohead who focus on atmosphere, lack (save for OK Computer, though the applications are again different) the guitar wankery, and aren't as structured or pop-sensible/accessible. I have absolutely no idea how anyone who wasn't completely ignorant of each band could possibly mistake one for the other.

[c_rob2700]

Muse are exceptional musicians and put on an insane live show (see: HAARP) but they don't beat out Weezer. And The Used is The Used......lol

[wahwah16]

The Used. lol.

[Merkin]

hmm

[hailthewarrior]

I voted Muse because the guitar is awesome, I'm bitter Weezer took out mewithoutYou, and The Used have six good songs total.

[altemose09]

=w=

[ATL182fan]

Weezer

[Broclee]

Haha... sorry, but how so?

Pretty much every pop-punk/emo band to come out in the past 10 years has cited The Blue Album and/or Pinkerton as major influences.

Muse may be more popular in the UK, but in America, they've really only been popular for the past 4 or 5 years, whereas Weezer have been relevant for 15 years now.

I mean in the scene today, currently. I gathered up a bunch of my peers and kids in the scene and put on a Weezer song and a Muse song, I have a feeling more would recognize the Muse song. They've achieved great success, and rightfully so, and are much more "current" than Weezer. It doesn't hurt that Supermassive Black Hole was in Twilight, either. That was my point, but what you're saying is completely true.

[lucky#88]

not a huge fan of any of these bands but "the taste of ink" is still an awesome song so the used

[TheHoldSteady]

Never got into Muse, and the Used? Psh.
Went Weezer.

[VampiresRevenge]

Muse.

[fake empire]

I mean in the scene today, currently. I gathered up a bunch of my peers and kids in the scene and put on a Weezer song and a Muse song, I have a feeling more would recognize the Muse song. They've achieved great success, and rightfully so, and are much more "current" than Weezer. It doesn't hurt that Supermassive Black Hole was in Twilight, either. That was my point, but what you're saying is completely true.

I doubt it

[Broclee]

I doubt it
I'm glad you know these people as well as I do and can make that call.

[benlong]

I had to vote muse purely out of technical ability...but this was the toughest decision yet

[phil19]

i picked the used though i knew i would be in the minority. i cant stand muse and never gotten into weezer

[briewer]

This is just a cop-out excuse to dislike Muse, relied upon as an insult by people who haven't listened to more than a few songs by either band. All the two bands have in common are falsetto vocals, which are barely comparable. Muse is a rock based, pop-focused band with minimal use of electronics and noise to create pop hooks, as opposed to Radiohead who focus on atmosphere, lack (save for OK Computer, though the applications are again different) the guitar wankery, and aren't as structured or pop-sensible/accessible. I have absolutely no idea how anyone who wasn't completely ignorant of each band could possibly mistake one for the other.

You say "pop-focused" and "accessible", I say less creative, shittier rip off. Don't get me wrong, I don't "mistake one for the other"; that's why I called them mediocre, because duh, Radiohead =/= mediocre. I mean, just listen to Radiohead's Airbag/How Am I Driving? EP. At least three of those tracks sound exactly like Muse circa 2006.

At any rate, The Blue Album & Pinkerton>everything and anything Muse has put out, so this argument is really irrelevant.

[theguy77]

haha muse rip off radiohead. what a hilariously stupid argument.

[briewer]

I voted Muse because the guitar is awesome, I'm bitter Weezer took out mewithoutYou, and The Used have six good songs total.

Six? You're gonna give them that many?

[briewer]

haha muse rip off radiohead. what a hilariously stupid argument.

Hey. Fuck you.

[theguy77]

Hey. Fuck you.

please explain to me where radiohead writes synth-pop.

[briewer]

please explain to me where radiohead writes synth-pop.

Please explain to me where Muse writes synth-pop. I don't know, maybe you should be arguing with Chromefox. She claims Muse is a "rock based, pop-focused band with minimal use of electronics and noise to create pop hooks."

[theguy77]

Please explain to me where Muse writes synth-pop. I don't know, maybe you should be arguing with Chromefox. She claims Muse is a "rock based, pop-focused band with minimal use of electronics and noise to create pop hooks."

synths = electronics. done.

anything else?

[briewer]

synths = electronics. done.

anything else?

And minimal=small amount. Did you not catch that?

[theguy77]

And minimal=small amount. Did you not catch that?

well maybe if you interpreted her post correctly you'd realize she mentioned electronics in an inclusive manner and not an exclusive manner -- she only used the word "minimal" to signify that their sound isn't entirely built around synthesizers, but rather, built from rock instrumentation with synths added in. in other words, the use of synth is not excessive by her parameters.

[briewer]

well maybe if you interpreted her post correctly you'd realize she mentioned electronics in an inclusive manner and not an exclusive manner -- she only used the word "minimal" to signify that their sound isn't entirely built around synthesizers, but rather, built from rock instrumentation with synths added in. in other words, the use of synth is not excessive by her parameters.

No, I think she meant "minimal" as in "less than Radiohead." Do they have 'noise' built in too, in an inclusive manner and not an exclusive manner, as she also said? At any rate, this hardly makes them synth pop.

[theguy77]

No, I think she meant "minimal" as in "less than Radiohead." Do they have 'noise' built in too, in an inclusive manner and not an exclusive manner, as she also said? At any rate, this hardly makes them synth pop.

hahaha for one thing muse definitley incorporates synthesizers into their sound more often, and for another they use them in an entirely different way. i'd love to see you try to tell me muse were aiming with the same result with their electronics on "black holes and revelations" as radiohead were with "kid A". would be very amusing to see you attempt to find any similarities.

[briewer]

hahaha for one thing muse definitley incorporates synthesizers into their sound more often, and for another they use them in an entirely different way. i'd love to see you try to tell me muse were aiming with the same result with their electronics on "black holes and revelations" as radiohead were with "kid A". would be very amusing to see you attempt to find any similarities.

I think you're confusing 'synthesizer' with 'piano/keyboard'. This is a synthesizer:

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This is a keyboard, as done by Muse:

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and again:

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And to just hammer home the point I was trying to make in the first place, tell me this Radiohead song, circa 1998, does not sound like Muse circa 2006:

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and again:

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Of course, Radiohead does it better because duh, they are better, but still, clearly similar songs released by different bands nearly a decade apart.

[saving jonathan]

Weezer should win on Pinkerton alone. The Blue Album is just the slap in the face.

[theguy77]

I think you're confusing 'synthesizer' with 'piano/keyboard'. This is a synthesizer:

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This is a keyboard, as done by Muse:

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and again:

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And to just hammer home the point I was trying to make in the first place, tell me this Radiohead song, circa 1998, does not sound like Muse circa 2006:

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and again:

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Of course, Radiohead does it better because duh, they are better, but still, clearly similar songs released by different bands nearly a decade apart.

oh hey look here's muse using synth, extensively. who would have thought.

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also, way to compare muse to one of radiohead's most straightforward, accessible songs. if you compared the most pop-oriented sides to any alternative band you'd find similarities, and radiohead's sound there is just as openly derived from other things as muse's. you might as well say radiohead rips off of nirvana citing "creep" as your example. but hey why dont you compare that song up there to this one and continue proving yourself wrong.

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how are the electronics used in a similar way at all? how is ANYTHING similar at all?

[RAMROD85]

my god Radiohead fans are assholes.

edit: YAY weezer.

[theguy77]

my god Radiohead fans are assholes.

edit: YAY weezer.

im actualy defending muse here. they are not at all a cheap radiohead imitation, thats just a comparison that is made narrowly based on a very small and nonrepresentative sample of both bands' spectrum of sound where they ahppen to overlap.

[Chromefox]

No, I think she meant "minimal" as in "less than Radiohead." Do they have 'noise' built in too, in an inclusive manner and not an exclusive manner, as she also said? At any rate, this hardly makes them synth pop. What I have gathered from your posts is that all you've heard from Muse are tracks off of Black Holes and Revelations, and haven't heard any of the rest of their discography, which is straight up rock and not comparable to Radiohead in the slightest.

Two falsetto vocalists and a little bit of electronic noodling are far from a definitive argument for one band thieving off of another. You failed to actually address the differences I cited, and instead opted to question claims I didn't actually make, ie: your reference to synth-pop.

It is apparent to me that you haven't listened to enough of one or the other, or perhaps both to be able to back up the accusation you're making.

Let's then, completely disregard the obvious, and focus on the general similarities between the two bands:

Use of piano: Radiohead use almost awkward chords to create delicate, haunting melodies that tend to sit under the meat of the song and carry the length of it. Muse's use of piano is considerably more dramatic and sweeping, often only used as introductions or bridges between raging guitar wankery.

Vocals: Thom Yorke's falsetto is soft and expressive, often ending lines delicately and with subtle pronunciation. Matt Bellamy's is piercing and powerful, almost shrill and operatic at times. Yorke's lengthy notes tend to remain consistent, whereas Bellamy tends to have more vibrato.

Electronics: Radiohead use electronics primarily to create an atmosphere, and set the tone and mood of the song, whereas Muse (and their use of electronics is new as of Black Holes) are much less subtle and blatantly include them in the song's bare bones.

Guitars: Radiohead's last four albums haven't been guitar-centric, using guitars to create textures and atmosphere, whereas Muse as a band are known for their building their songs around spacey rock riffs and solos. Certainly In Rainbows contains prominent guitar throughout, but (ignoring completely the fact that these sound nothing like anything Muse has ever written) it's used primarily to flavour the album, and at least half of the tracks focus entirely on different musical aspects.

So you see, even the details of Muse and Radiohead that are worth comparing differ vastly in execution and utilization. I am not by any means arguing that Muse are a better band. They aren't. It is my point however, that it is unfair, ignorant, and wildly inaccurate to label Muse as a "rip-off" band.

[briewer]

im actualy defending muse here. they are not at all a cheap radiohead imitation, thats just a comparison that is made narrowly based on a very small and nonrepresentative sample of both bands' spectrum of sound where they ahppen to overlap.

What I have gathered from your posts is that all you've heard from Muse are tracks off of Black Holes and Revelations, and haven't heard any of the rest of their discography, which is straight up rock and not comparable to Radiohead in the slightest.

Two falsetto vocalists and a little bit of electronic noodling are far from a definitive argument for one band thieving off of another. You failed to actually address the differences I cited, and instead opted to question claims I didn't actually make, ie: your reference to synth-pop.

It is apparent to me that you haven't listened to enough of one or the other, or perhaps both to be able to back up the accusation you're making.

Let's then, completely disregard the obvious, and focus on the general similarities between the two bands:

Use of piano: Radiohead use almost awkward chords to create delicate, haunting melodies that tend to sit under the meat of the song and carry the length of it. Muse's use of piano is considerably more dramatic and sweeping, often only used as introductions or bridges between raging guitar wankery.

Vocals: Thom Yorke's falsetto is soft and expressive, often ending lines delicately and with subtle pronunciation. Matt Bellamy's is piercing and powerful, almost shrill and operatic at times. Yorke's lengthy notes tend to remain consistent, whereas Bellamy tends to have more vibrato.

Electronics: Radiohead use electronics primarily to create an atmosphere, and set the tone and mood of the song, whereas Muse (and their use of electronics is new as of Black Holes) are much less subtle and blatantly include them in the song's bare bones.

Guitars: Radiohead's last four albums haven't been guitar-centric, using guitars to create textures and atmosphere, whereas Muse as a band are known for their building their songs around spacey rock riffs and solos. Certainly In Rainbows contains prominent guitar throughout, but (ignoring completely the fact that these sound nothing like anything Muse has ever written) it's used primarily to flavour the album, and at least half of the tracks focus entirely on different musical aspects.

So you see, even the details of Muse and Radiohead that are worth comparing differ vastly in execution and utilization. I am not by any means arguing that Muse are a better band. They aren't. It is my point however, that it is unfair, ignorant, and wildly inaccurate to label Muse as a "rip-off" band.

bleh. I don't fucking care anymore. You both win. Congrats, I'm going to bed.

[briewer]

my god Radiohead fans are assholes.

edit: YAY weezer.

I hope that was aimed at me. I've worked hard to become this big of an asshole. ;)

[RAMROD85]

I hope that was aimed at me. I've worked hard to become this big of an asshole. ;)
mmm it wasnt aimed at one person in particular because I wasn't looking at avatars/handles just the obnoxious tone of the comments that is equally as evident in the Radiohead/ SoCo/ TREOS forum...

but I just checked out your profile and based on your musical taste, I'm going to go ahead and say that, yes, you are most likely an asshole. so, congrats on your success.

[theguy77]

mmm it wasnt aimed at one person in particular because I wasn't looking at avatars/handles just the obnoxious tone of the comments that is equally as evident in the Radiohead/ SoCo/ TREOS forum...

but I just checked out your profile and based on your musical taste, I'm going to go ahead and say that, yes, you are most likely an asshole. so, congrats on your success.

hahaha wow. way to do EXACTLY the same thing as the people you complain about.

[RAMROD85]

hahaha wow. way to do EXACTLY the same thing as the people you complain about.
ha I was kidding darling. chillax. just friendly banter.

[theguy77]

ha I was kidding darling. chillax. just friendly banter.

oh now with the e-flirting. jeez, back off, im six years younger than you.

hahaha

[RAMROD85]

oh now with the e-flirting. jeez, back off, im six years younger than you.

hahaha
haha. well some guy told me today that there's no way I'm 24. So maybe I'll drop my age down a bit. we could never internet date, though... kiaitiei would be mad.

haha ah radiohead fans. :fish:

[theguy77]

haha. well some guy told me today that there's no way I'm 24. So maybe I'll drop my age down a bit. we could never internet date, though... kiaitiei would be mad.

haha ah radiohead fans. :fish:

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[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

The Used's Self titled album is possibly, the greatest album in that genre. The way that Bert utilized the sing-scream technique in that album gives me goosebumps. The lyrics are some of the most personal I've ever read.

:ok:

[tinfoil-hearts]

Like Muse, but LOVE Weezer. No competition for me, sorry.

[Chris Fallon]

These threads always turn ugly.

[briewer]

im actualy defending muse here. they are not at all a cheap radiohead imitation, thats just a comparison that is made narrowly based on a very small and nonrepresentative sample of both bands' spectrum of sound where they ahppen to overlap.

mmm it wasnt aimed at one person in particular because I wasn't looking at avatars/handles just the obnoxious tone of the comments that is equally as evident in the Radiohead/ SoCo/ TREOS forum...

but I just checked out your profile and based on your musical taste, I'm going to go ahead and say that, yes, you are most likely an asshole. so, congrats on your success.

My musical tastes? Come on, you're just giving it away like it doesn't mean anything. I could list way more obscure/unlistenable/pretentious music that I listen to. Make me earn that title. I don't want you to belittle my long, hard training at becoming a huge dick in these forums (every TWSS intended, of course).

EDIT: Oops. For some reason it quoted you too theguy77. My mistake.

[jbaseball44]

These threads always turn ugly.
People seem to get very heated over these. I guess it just shows how strongly people feel about their particular music and that this idea really inspired a lot of debate, even if it does get nasty.

[andrewa5]

The used should win this, they are extremely talented and great at what they do in their genre!

[Schmidty Says]

Blackholes and Revelations was an awersome disc, the Used is okay, but I wasn't sold on Lies For The Liars, and Weezer is epic.