Allen Iverson

[IAmNietzche]

best guard to EVER play the game

[Caleb Cattivera]

best guard to EVER play the game
johnny kilroy>allen iverson

[weezer182]

best guard to EVER play the gamesorry that would have to go to mj

[somethingyellow]

dumbest statement EVER on this board
....and we have had some pretty stupid statements here too

[Caleb Cattivera]

sorry that would have to go to mj

or johnny kilroy

[itsjdiggity]

i kinda want to agree with him just for the fact that i didn't know who johnny kilroy is and i looked like an idiot....but no

[IAmNietzche]

sorry that would have to go to mj
i dont know about that

[weezer182]

or johnny kilroyhaha

[weezer182]

i dont know about thatfor my amusement i want to hear your argument

[itsjdiggity]

iverson is probably the best player 6 foot and under

[somethingyellow]

i kinda want to agree with him just for the fact that i didn't know who johnny kilroy is and i looked like an idiot....but no
could it be jordan's alias in '93?

[IAmNietzche]

for my amusement i want to hear your argument
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=allen+iverson+crossover+michael+j ordan/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=12c814h49/EXP=1134892618/*-http%3A//www.ifilm.com/player?ifilmId=2399401&refsite=7063

[Caleb Cattivera]

i dont know about that

haha yeah i'd like to hear your argument too. becaue honestly, this could be the funniest thing i've read in a long time.

[Caleb Cattivera]

could it be jordan's alias in '93?

DING DING DING. yes it was jordan's alias after his first retirement!

[itsjdiggity]

could it be jordan's alias in '93?

that thought never crossed my mind seeing how he has a card

[itsjdiggity]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=allen+iverson+crossover+michael+j ordan/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=12c814h49/EXP=1134892618/*-http%3A//www.ifilm.com/player?ifilmId=2399401&refsite=7063

in that case,

Jacque Vaughn = Michael Jordan

[IAmNietzche]

haha yeah i'd like to hear your argument too. becaue honestly, this could be the funniest thing i've read in a long time.
your sig is one of the funniest things ive read in a while since i find it highly amusing that you promote the fucking shittiest pop-punk/bad rock bands simply because they are from the same state you are...

[somethingyellow]

DING DING DING. yes it was jordan's alias after his first retirement!
feels good to be right for my 1k post, no thread for it but basically thank u all sports forum

[Caleb Cattivera]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=allen+iverson+crossover+michael+j ordan/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=12c814h49/EXP=1134892618/*-http%3A//www.ifilm.com/player?ifilmId=2399401&refsite=7063

haha WOW. because iverson crosses over mj...he's the best guard ever? you dont watch basketball it's obvious. with an idiotic comment like that. everyone has seen that video...

if we're going based on highlights...let's break out the mj films. i really hope youre not serious with this. it's almost ban worthy. haha.

[weezer182]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=allen+iverson+crossover+michael+j ordan/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=12c814h49/EXP=1134892618/*-http%3A//www.ifilm.com/player?ifilmId=2399401&refsite=7063 i thought it was going to be something intelligent :shake:

[IAmNietzche]

haha WOW. because iverson crosses over mj...he's the best guard ever? you dont watch basketball it's obvious. with an idiotic comment like that. everyone has seen that video...

if we're going based on highlights...let's break out the mj films. i really hope youre not serious with this. it's almost ban worthy. haha.
your taste in music is ban worthy my friend

[Spicoli hey bud]

ai is gdo rigth now

[weezer182]

haha WOW. because iverson crosses over mj...he's the best guard ever? you dont watch basketball it's obvious. with an idiotic comment like that. everyone has seen that video...

if we're going based on highlights...let's break out the mj films. i really hope youre not serious with this. it's almost ban worthy. haha.its either a joke or he is an idiot.....or maybe both

[Caleb Cattivera]

it's obvious that nietzche cant take a joke. he's gone for a few days. hope you guys dont like him.

[somethingyellow]

it's obvious that nietzche cant take a joke. he's gone for a few days. hope you guys dont like him.
haha i didnt even know the kid but for him to come in here and say that is ban worthy

[itsjdiggity]

:pwned:

[itsjdiggity]

ai is gdo rigth now

this dude is probably wasted cause he has been having trouble spelling for a few posts now :booze:

[weezer182]

good call caleb

[Spicoli hey bud]

this dude is probably wasted cause he has been having trouble spelling for a few posts now :booze:
mabye but ai is mvp rite now..ill defend tomorow

[itsjdiggity]

mabye but ai is mvp rite now..ill defend tomorow

haha...stay cool and don't drive like rashard lewis

[ActorInThisPlay]

best guard to EVER play the game
now I love AI and think he is probably the best guard in the NBA now but to say of all time is just ignorant.

[justinevans]

if iverson was 6'5" he would have been better than MJ, but he is not. they have a similar ability to take over the game. MJ always had a better supporting class, but it has become clearer that atleast on chicago, he made those players better.

iverson is the best pg gone to sg back to pg. size for size he is one of the best players to ever play the game.

[mat1419]

i've watched a thousand sixers games throughout AI's career...and he's not the greatest guard to every play, that's an easy call. but it is nice to see he's starting to get early recognition as one of the greatest ever and by the end of his career could arguably be top 3-5 to ever play the game. His knock is always going to be shooting percentage, but for every time that argument comes, there are 5 more regarding his toughness, leadership, and straight up jaw dropping ability to back it off. take AI out of Philly the past 7 years and they would have been worse than the clippers.

[somethingyellow]

i love watching iverson play, love how he plays and respect his game a ton With that saying he is not the best guard ever to play but a sure bid for the HOF which he deserves

[weezer182]

i've watched a thousand sixers games throughout AI's career...and he's not the greatest guard to every play, that's an easy call. but it is nice to see he's starting to get early recognition as one of the greatest ever and by the end of his career could arguably be top 3-5 to ever play the game. His knock is always going to be shooting percentage, but for every time that argument comes, there are 5 more regarding his toughness, leadership, and straight up jaw dropping ability to back it off. take AI out of Philly the past 7 years and they would have been worse than the clippers.the only problem i have seen with ai is he hasnt proven he can win. sure one year he got to the finals but that is it. i dont know how much better he makes his teammates. his individual abilities are amazing

[justinevans]

the only problem i have seen with ai is he hasnt proven he can win. sure one year he got to the finals but that is it. i dont know how much better he makes his teammates. his individual abilities are amazing

your teammates need a little bit of talent to prove they can win. also look at who they usually play in the playoffs...the pistons or the pacers - 2 teams that have dominated the eastern conference for the last few years.

[weezer182]

your teammates need a little bit of talent to prove they can win. also look at who they usually play in the playoffs...the pistons or the pacers - 2 teams that have dominated the eastern conference for the last few years. true but what about the olympics? he had plenty of talent on that team.

[mat1419]

the only problem i have seen with ai is he hasnt proven he can win. sure one year he got to the finals but that is it. i dont know how much better he makes his teammates. his individual abilities are amazing
to be honest, the sixers have done an awful job of filling the spots around him. the one year he had a semi-adequate big man, he went to the finals and gave the lakers their only loss in the playoffs. when you look at that finals, the sixers were somehow in every one of those games. he gets them into the playoffs pretty consistantly year after year, he's just never had enough aside from one year to make a legit run at the playoffs. even mj had some help.

[mat1419]

true but what about the olympics? he had plenty of talent on that team.
talent yes, but it was the wrong kind of talent. we're in an age now where dunking isn't going to win us a gold. if they pick the next team well and add some shooters, ai knows how to kick it out.

[Talib Scottie]

Guards get shook all the time. In high school probably the shittiest guard in our league made me look stupid. Doesn't mean anything. Iverson is quicker, I'll give you that, but that is all he has over MJ.

[weezer182]

talent yes, but it was the wrong kind of talent. we're in an age now where dunking isn't going to win us a gold. if they pick the next team well and add some shooters, ai knows how to kick it out. so...duncan, labrone, amare stoudamire, wade are the "wrong" kind of talent? id like to know who the right talent is then?

[Talib Scottie]

so...duncan, labrone, amare stoudamire, wade are the "wrong" kind of talent? id like to know who the right talent is then?
They are inexperienced besides Duncan, and it seems as though no one on that team could hit an 15 foot jumper the entire stint. They need defense and shooters who don't get rattled easily.

[weezer182]

to be honest, the sixers have done an awful job of filling the spots around him. the one year he had a semi-adequate big man, he went to the finals and gave the lakers their only loss in the playoffs. when you look at that finals, the sixers were somehow in every one of those games. he gets them into the playoffs pretty consistantly year after year, he's just never had enough aside from one year to make a legit run at the playoffs. even mj had some help. in the year the 79ers got to the playoffs the east was horrible. you didnt have to be great to get to the finals in the east. yes the 76ers have been bad at filling spots around him but he still hasnt proven to be a great winner. is that the main problem maybe but.. they are 12-12 this year right now. we will see how they do

[weezer182]

They are inexperienced besides Duncan, and it seems as though no one on that team could hit an 15 foot jumper the entire stint. They need defense and shooters who don't get rattled easily. and the international players they are playing against are that much more experienced then them?

[Talib Scottie]

in the year the 79ers got to the playoffs the east was horrible. you didnt have to be great to get to the finals in the east. yes the 76ers have been bad at filling spots around him but he still hasnt proven to be a great winner. is that the main problem maybe but.. they are 12-12 this year right now. we will see how they do
Exactly. The Milaukee Bucks and the Toronto Rapters were contenders in the East.

[Talib Scottie]

and the international players they are playing against are that much more experienced then them?
Playing together, yes. They play together far more times then our teams do. They are also not as selfish

[mat1419]

in the year the 79ers got to the playoffs the east was horrible. you didnt have to be great to get to the finals in the east. yes the 76ers have been bad at filling spots around him but he still hasnt proven to be a great winner. is that the main problem maybe but.. they are 12-12 this year right now. we will see how they do
you can't fault the team for winning in a bad conference...and right now, the AI is the only reason they're 12-12. the team can't rebound for shit and they just don't look cohesive yet.

[weezer182]

Playing together, yes. They play together far more times then our teams do. They are also not as selfishi agree with that too. our individual talent was much better but as far as playing to together we werent good. you would think with the talent we had on the floor we would of beaten any international team but that wasnt the case

[Talib Scottie]

I know one player who should never step on a court in a team USA jersey, his name is Ron Artest. He is so good defensively but this whole deal about demanding to get traded and asking for more shots? No thank you.

[weezer182]

you can't fault the team for winning in a bad conference...and right now, the AI is the only reason they're 12-12. the team can't rebound for shit and they just don't look cohesive yet.no you cant fault the team for winning in a bad conference but they werent "great" that year either. it took 7 games to beat the bucks and toronto. yes they still one but it wasnt a walk in the park for them. the east has 4 or 5 good teams this year. the 76ers should win their conference they have some talent. its not like its only ai.

[mat1419]

I know one player who should never step on a court in a team USA jersey, his name is Ron Artest. He is so good defensively but this whole deal about demanding to get traded and asking for more shots? No thank you.
the awful thing is, a sane artest would be a perfect fit for the team. they need that defense so bad...but if it took iverson 8 years of asking to be on the team before they let him on because he didn't look classy enough, i expect it would take artest about 3000 years, with good behavior.

[weezer182]

the awful thing is, a sane artest would be a perfect fit for the team. they need that defense so bad...but if it took iverson 8 years of asking to be on the team before they let him on because he didn't look classy enough, i expect it would take artest about 3000 years, with good behavior.yea artest wont be on that team. artest is such a gamble. he is a really good player but you never know what he will do and you wont know how the team will react to him

[Talib Scottie]

the awful thing is, a sane artest would be a perfect fit for the team. they need that defense so bad...but if it took iverson 8 years of asking to be on the team before they let him on because he didn't look classy enough, i expect it would take artest about 3000 years, with good behavior.
Exactly, if he wouldnt get selfish offensively it would be great. We need him and a quick and good on the ball defender to guard the likes of Arroyo and Ginobli (Maybe Chauncy Billups) and a shooter in the two spot (Michael Redd, Ray Allen, or whoever) and throw in Duncan and perhaps Garnett in the 4 and 5 spots and we shouldnt be touched if we played good team ball.

[Talib Scottie]

you can't fault the team for winning in a bad conference...and right now, the AI is the only reason they're 12-12. the team can't rebound for shit and they just don't look cohesive yet.
There's no denying he's a good player. Everybody on the court knows he's going to shoot and to this day no one has really had a consistant way to stop him.

[weezer182]

There's no denying he's a good player. Everybody on the court knows he's going to shoot and to this day no one has really had a consistant way to stop him. i agree again. im not say he isnt a great player because he is and i really like him. im just saying he hasnt proven to me that he can be a good winner. he usually does bring his team into the playoffs but that is usually it. like i said it might be because he hasnt had good enough players to play around him but as of right now i stick with my opinion

[Caleb Cattivera]

allen iverson will never win an nba championship. he's been hard to coach throughout his nba career. he's had problems with nearly every one of his coaches since he came into the leauge. there's not too many people in the leauge who want to be on the same team with him either. webber's even complained about him. i think iverson is a good player. and he'll be in the HOF. but he'll never be a top five all time guard i dont think. too many great guards, with greater accomplishments have played this game.

[Ravenna]

allen iverson will never win an nba championship. he's been hard to coach throughout his nba career. he's had problems with nearly every one of his coaches since he came into the leauge. there's not too many people in the leauge who want to be on the same team with him either. webber's even complained about him. i think iverson is a good player. and he'll be in the HOF. but he'll never be a top five all time guard i dont think. too many great guards, with greater accomplishments have played this game.
you could insert kobe's name into your first few statements, and hes won a few rings, so i wouldn't say iverson will never win a championship.

[Caleb Cattivera]

you could insert kobe's name into your first few statements, and hes won a few rings, so i wouldn't say iverson will never win a championship.

iverson wont. kobe had shaq. shaq WAS the lakers. look at the lakers now...the kobe comparisons to mj can stop. it's obvious that kobe cant lead a team successfully.

unless iverson gets players around him, that know how to win, he wont win one. he's not good enough to get a team there by himself. he has to have components along with him. and until other players want to go to philly to play with him...or he leaves...he wont win one.

[mat1419]

webber's even complained about him. .
come on now...you say that like webber's a great teammate

[Caleb Cattivera]

come on now...you say that like webber's a great teammate

he's not...

but he produces. i mean if chris webber is complaining about someone...they must REALLY be an asshole.

im not an iverson fan, and i think people saying he'll be a top five guard in history is pretty crazy.

[Talib Scottie]

he's not...

but he produces. i mean if chris webber is complaining about someone...they must REALLY be an asshole.

im not an iverson fan, and i think people saying he'll be a top five guard in history is pretty crazy.
Hell no. He MIGHT be top 20

[weezer182]

he's not...

but he produces. i mean if chris webber is complaining about someone...they must REALLY be an asshole.

im not an iverson fan, and i think people saying he'll be a top five guard in history is pretty crazy.his career stats are great he just needs to prove now that he can win

[Caleb Cattivera]

his career stats are great he just needs to prove now that he can win

exactly. terrific career stats. but i dont think iverson has the maturity to lead a team.

[Drew Beringer]

It's probably been mentioned already, but MJ is the greatest NBA guard ever.

[itsjdiggity]

It's probably been mentioned already, but MJ is the greatest NBA guard ever.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/alphawolfau/Funny_shit/captain_obvious.jpg

[justinevans]

Hell no. He MIGHT be top 20

he is definitely top 20, top 10.

[justinevans]

his career stats are great he just needs to prove now that he can win

Would you consider Reggie Miller in the top 20? he has never won anything and he's had teams.

[Talib Scottie]

he is definitely top 20, top 10.
I don't think he's top 10, he'd probably sit in the 13-18 range.

[weezer182]

Would you consider Reggie Miller in the top 20? he has never won anything and he's had teams.yes i would. he has proven to be a leader. plus most of his career he played against mj and the bulls

[Caleb Cattivera]

iverson is top 20...but not top 10, yet.

magic, west, stockton, big o, walt frazier, zeke, cousy, jordan, sam jones, drexler, the ice man and alot of others are better than iverson all time.

even in basketball today i think wade, kobe, tmac and kidd are better guards than iverson.

[somethingyellow]

even in basketball today i think wade, kobe, tmac and kidd are better guards than iverson.
tmac? if you think iverson can't win what would u say about tmac. wade right now is too young to say he is better then iverson.

[Caleb Cattivera]

tmac? if you think iverson can't win what would u say about tmac. wade right now is too young to say he is better then iverson.

your right about tmac. but i think he's a more complete player than iverson.

and wade isnt too young. he's been in the leauge the same amount of time as lebron...and as much hype as lebron gets...wade is arugably better than lebron. doesnt matter how young a player is, or how long they've been in the leauge. wade>iverson

[somethingyellow]

your right about tmac. but i think he's a more complete player than iverson.

and wade isnt too young. he's been in the leauge the same amount of time as lebron...and as much hype as lebron gets...wade is arugably better than lebron. doesnt matter how young a player is, or how long they've been in the leauge. wade>iverson
i still dont see how tmac is more complete player then iverson, all tmac has for height. iverson is a better scorer, harder to stop, better defender, and a lot more assist.
consistancy has something to do with how good you are. sure wade has had a great few seasons yet iverson is a better player right now then wade. iverson has proven himself going into his 10th year while wade has had 3 seasons, 2 with shaq so wade wasnt even the number one emphasis on the the defense to stop, while iverson always has been. so to say wade is one of the top 20 guards ever to play only after three seasons is something u can't really say, iverson is arguably, in my opinion too, the hardest guard to stop one on one in the nba and the best player for his size ever to play

[Caleb Cattivera]

i still dont see how tmac is more complete player then iverson, all tmac has for height. iverson is a better scorer, harder to stop, better defender, and a lot more assist.
consistancy has something to do with how good you are. sure wade has had a great few seasons yet iverson is a better player right now then wade. iverson has proven himself going into his 10th year while wade has had 3 seasons, 2 with shaq so wade wasnt even the number one emphasis on the the defense to stop, while iverson always has been. so to say wade is one of the top 20 guards ever to play only after three seasons is something u can't really say, iverson is arguably, in my opinion too, the hardest guard to stop one on one in the nba and the best player for his size ever to play

tmac can score, he gets assists and rebounds. and he's a pretty damn good defensive player. he's more well rounded than iverson. and up until this season, was a more durable player.

im not saying wade is in the top 20...im just saying RIGHT NOW in the nba, that wade is better. in his first seaosn he didnt have shaq and his team started out 0-7, and what looked to be a horrible year in miami. he took over the team after that 0-7 start...and led them to eastern conference semis, where they eventually lost to the pacers. but he lead that team in the playoffs...as a rookie. he's got better leadership than iverson, and like tmac, he's a more complete player than iverson.

and honestly, everyone will ate on me for this...but i do think wade is...and will be a better player than iverson. iverson had all the components he needed in his first season to do something with his team. him, stackhouse, coleman, weatherspoon...a more impressive lineup than what d wade had...and they had 22 wins.

wade was a proven leader at the end of his first nba season...it took iverson awhile. iversons been great player...but i think he gets way too much credit.

[somethingyellow]

tmac can score, he gets assists and rebounds. and he's a pretty damn good defensive player. he's more well rounded than iverson. and up until this season, was a more durable player.

im not saying wade is in the top 20...im just saying RIGHT NOW in the nba, that wade is better. in his first seaosn he didnt have shaq and his team started out 0-7, and what looked to be a horrible year in miami. he took over the team after that 0-7 start...and led them to eastern conference semis, where they eventually lost to the pacers. but he lead that team in the playoffs...as a rookie. he's got better leadership than iverson, and like tmac, he's a more complete player than iverson.

and honestly, everyone will ate on me for this...but i do think wade is...and will be a better player than iverson. iverson had all the components he needed in his first season to do something with his team. him, stackhouse, coleman, weatherspoon...a more impressive lineup than what d wade had...and they had 22 wins.

wade was a proven leader at the end of his first nba season...it took iverson awhile. iversons been great player...but i think he gets way too much credit.
sure tmac can score and do all that but iverson does it better maybe besides rebounding cuz he is 9 inches smaller, i still do not see how tmac is more well rounded i can name a lot more areas where iverson is better then tmac and i wouldnt question iverson's durablity because he is the toughest player in the nba when it comes to playing with injuries. honestly caleb, iverson is a better scorer, better passer, has lead the league in steals a few times, so i dont know about this tmac is a better complete player. please tell me how you specifically think tmac is more a complete player
as for wade you said that iverson is in the top 20 guards to ever play, then said wade is better so i just assumed you meant that wade would be in the top 20 too. yes i agree wade had a great rookie season. lets take a look at this years teams. wade's heat without shaq 9-9. even without shaq that heat team has more talent then the sixers. iverson is the heart and sole of the sixers. iverson's leadership i think is displayed on the court how he will play through anything to try and win. obviously this is a matter of opinion but i think wade still has a lot to prove to be better then iverson. he is gonna have to give me more then just 3 seasons for me to say that with the career iverson has had

[Caleb Cattivera]

sure tmac can score and do all that but iverson does it better maybe besides rebounding cuz he is 9 inches smaller, i still do not see how tmac is more well rounded i can name a lot more areas where iverson is better then tmac and i wouldnt question iverson's durablity because he is the toughest player in the nba when it comes to playing with injuries. honestly caleb, iverson is a better scorer, better passer, has lead the league in steals a few times, so i dont know about this tmac is a better complete player. please tell me how you specifically think tmac is more a complete player
as for wade you said that iverson is in the top 20 guards to ever play, then said wade is better so i just assumed you meant that wade would be in the top 20 too. yes i agree wade had a great rookie season. lets take a look at this years teams. wade's heat without shaq 9-9. even without shaq that heat team has more talent then the sixers. iverson is the heart and sole of the sixers. iverson's leadership i think is displayed on the court how he will play through anything to try and win. obviously this is a matter of opinion but i think wade still has a lot to prove to be better then iverson. he is gonna have to give me more then just 3 seasons for me to say that with the career iverson has had

to me, iverson is...and always will be over-rated. he's done nothing to prove to me that he has what it takes to win, other than one season going to the finals...
i dont think he's a better scorer than tmac. iverson is always fouled, and always gets trips to the free throw line where alot of his points are scored in his big games. all of what you are saying is hear say to me...and it's your opinion. iverson is over-rated in MY opinion...and he's yet to prove much to me, except that he can score...and be a bitch to coach.

i dont think the heat are better than the sixers without shaq. i just dont think iverson can lead a team. iverson has a damn good team this year...and they probably wont get out of the first round of the playoffs.

why are you even defending iverson? he's a bitch...and he's overrated.

[Caleb Cattivera]

also, wade, in my opinion out performed iverson in the heat's win the other night...and he LEAD his team to victory over iverson's.

[Caleb Cattivera]

one last thing...iverson takes so many, wild and quick shots...that team has never been able to find a pattern for their offense.

[weezer182]

to me, iverson is...and always will be over-rated. he's done nothing to prove to me that he has what it takes to win, other than one season going to the finals...
i dont think he's a better scorer than tmac. iverson is always fouled, and always gets trips to the free throw line where alot of his points are scored in his big games. all of what you are saying is hear say to me...and it's your opinion. iverson is over-rated in MY opinion...and he's yet to prove much to me, except that he can score...and be a bitch to coach.

i dont think the heat are better than the sixers without shaq. i just dont think iverson can lead a team. iverson has a damn good team this year...and they probably wont get out of the first round of the playoffs.

why are you even defending iverson? he's a bitch...and he's overrated.tmac is more of a bitch. i cant stand him....tmac, artest, steve francis ect.. are all bitches haha. i like iverson i just dont think he has proven he can win

[somethingyellow]

to me, iverson is...and always will be over-rated. he's done nothing to prove to me that he has what it takes to win, other than one season going to the finals...
i dont think he's a better scorer than tmac. iverson is always fouled, and always gets trips to the free throw line where alot of his points are scored in his big games. all of what you are saying is hear say to me...and it's your opinion. iverson is over-rated in MY opinion...and he's yet to prove much to me, except that he can score...and be a bitch to coach.

i dont think the heat are better than the sixers without shaq. i just dont think iverson can lead a team. iverson has a damn good team this year...and they probably wont get out of the first round of the playoffs.

why are you even defending iverson? he's a bitch...and he's overrated.
well part of being a great scorer is getting to the line so i wouldn't hold that against iverson. great scorers find a way to score whether its from the line or not.In the same argument tmac hasnt proven anything and wade hasnt yet either.yes he has made the conference finals so has iverson. i am defending iverson because i really respect the way he plays. i love how iverson plays through anything and really cares about being on the court and trying to win, at least iverson can stick with the team that drafted him through the thick and the thin...i cant say the same about tmac

[somethingyellow]

also, wade, in my opinion out performed iverson in the heat's win the other night...and he LEAD his team to victory over iverson's.
he might have so, but you can't base who is a better player on one game

[Caleb Cattivera]

tmac is more of a bitch. i cant stand him....tmac, artest, steve francis ect.. are all bitches haha. i like iverson i just dont think he has proven he can win

haha i hate iverson as much as you hate tmac then.

he's a selfish player. and he needs to learn to not shoot so much. if he was pass first, then shoot...he'd be a better player, and maybe his team would be better. he needs to get everyone involved...and not make it the iverson show over and over. the sixers have been through four coaches...in THREE years...and iverson hasnt got along with any of them. making him a bitch to coach.

for somethingyellow. i took a list of the top five players in the nba right now from an article from fox sports...

1. duncan
2. shaq
3. garnett
4. kobe
5. wade

iverson and tmac were sixth and seventh respectively. i know im not the only one who thinks that's wade's a better player than iverson.

remember when iverson said he didnt need to practice? what a bitch...

[Caleb Cattivera]

well part of being a great scorer is getting to the line so i wouldn't hold that against iverson. great scorers find a way to score whether its from the line or not.In the same argument tmac hasnt proven anything and wade hasnt yet either.yes he has made the conference finals so has iverson. i am defending iverson because i really respect the way he plays. i love how iverson plays through anything and really cares about being on the court and trying to win, at least iverson can stick with the team that drafted him through the thick and the thin...i cant say the same about tmac

you respect iverson? i'd hate to see who else you respect. get a real role model like nash.

like i said in my previous post, iverson is NOT a respectable player. this is the player who said he didnt need to practice...because it was 'just practice'. NO player that says that shouldnt get any amount of respect. last season and this season...wade was more impressive...and more clutch than iverson...if he played through 'anything' he wouldnt have missed so many games last season. iverson cares about ONE thing on the court...allen iverson.

[somethingyellow]

for somethingyellow. i took a list of the top five players in the nba right now from an article from fox sports...

1. duncan
2. shaq
3. garnett
4. kobe
5. wade

iverson and tmac were sixth and seventh respectively. i know im not the only one who thinks that's wade's a better player than iverson.

remember when iverson said he didnt need to practice? what a bitch...
im sure your not the only one, but im pretty sure that there are quite a few people who know basketball that think iverson is better. you can take wade i will take iverson :wink:

[Caleb Cattivera]

im sure your not the only one, but im pretty sure that there are quite a few people who know basketball that think iverson is better. you can take wade i will take iverson :wink:

haha. lets settle this in nba live 06.

[somethingyellow]

haha. lets settle this in nba live 06.
haha,im so bad at video games but since i have iverson i cant see how i will lose since he will just dominate wade

[Talib Scottie]

Playing hard and playing hurt are two respectable things, he has heart (in games) but there are many things about him that outweigh those qualities.

[somethingyellow]

you respect iverson? i'd hate to see who else you respect. get a real role model like nash.

like i said in my previous post, iverson is NOT a respectable player. this is the player who said he didnt need to practice...because it was 'just practice'. NO player that says that shouldnt get any amount of respect. last season and this season...wade was more impressive...and more clutch than iverson...if he played through 'anything' he wouldnt have missed so many games last season. iverson cares about ONE thing on the court...allen iverson.
my role model is nash, you knew that caleb. he is by far my favorite player ever to play. i respect how iverson plays every game hard and will play through pain more then any other player i have seen

[Caleb Cattivera]

my role model is nash, you knew that caleb. he is by far my favorite player ever to play. i respect how iverson plays every game hard and will play through pain more then any other player i have seen

haha i know he's your role model...

[somethingyellow]

haha i know he's your role model...
;)