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justinevans
12/17/05, 09:50 AM
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Dan Hollister
12/17/05, 09:59 AM
He is our president. Plain and simple. Unless you are not a citizen of this country. If you are, and you consider him to not be your president, you are just being naive. He is the president of this country.

No matter how bad a president is, if people go around declaring presidents as "not my president" that just ruins the whole system. Nobody is ever going to agree, there's going to be republicans and democrats and neither is truly correct. If every time there's a republican president and the democrats go insane, or vice versa, that just makes everything harder. Suck it up and elect someone else in 08.

justinevans
12/17/05, 10:07 AM
He is our president. Plain and simple. Unless you are not a citizen of this country. If you are, and you consider him to not be your president, you are just being naive. He is the president of this country.

No matter how bad a president is, if people go around declaring presidents as "not my president" that just ruins the whole system. Nobody is ever going to agree, there's going to be republicans and democrats and neither is truly correct. If every time there's a republican president and the democrats go insane, or vice versa, that just makes everything harder. Suck it up and elect someone else in 08.

Thank you. I just want to see how many say yes so we can change the fucking thing under the politics forum that says "Not my president"

Louballs
12/17/05, 10:16 AM
He is our president. Plain and simple. Unless you are not a citizen of this country. If you are, and you consider him to not be your president, you are just being naive. He is the president of this country.

No matter how bad a president is, if people go around declaring presidents as "not my president" that just ruins the whole system. Nobody is ever going to agree, there's going to be republicans and democrats and neither is truly correct. If every time there's a republican president and the democrats go insane, or vice versa, that just makes everything harder. Suck it up and elect someone else in 08.

Correction: he is the President (capital "p"). He technical holds the office of the presidency, and therefore I recognize him as "the" President of the U.S. But when you're asking whether I consider him to be "my" president or not, I think that connotes a question of whether I believe he represents my interests, and the answer to that question is "no." That's not "naivity," it's just my opinion. If by "your" President, you mean "do you consider Bush to be the President," then the answer is "yes;" to answer "no" to that question would not be "naive," it would just be ridiculous.

justinevans
12/17/05, 10:23 AM
Correction: he is the President (capital "p"). He technical holds the office of the presidency, and therefore I recognize him as "the" President of the U.S. But when you're asking whether I consider him to be "my" president or not, I think that connotes a question of whether I believe he represents my interests, and the answer to that question is "no." That's not "naivity," it's just my opinion. If by "your" President, you mean "do you consider Bush to be the President," then the answer is "yes;" to answer "no" to that question would not be "naive," it would just be ridiculous.

who represents your interests?

Louballs
12/17/05, 10:27 AM
who represents your interests?

I'll let you know when I see a candidate who fits the bill; don't hold your breath.

justinevans
12/17/05, 10:30 AM
I'll let you know when I see a candidate who fits the bill; don't hold your breath.

Oh, I was just wondering. I think McCain is probably the best one out there right now because he represents both sides.

FScott
12/17/05, 11:34 AM
I mean its not something Im proud of.

Paul Tao
12/17/05, 11:53 AM
Technically, yes.

I am all talk
12/17/05, 02:05 PM
Oh, I was just wondering. I think McCain is probably the best one out there right now because he represents both sides.
agreed. I really hope the RNC nominates McCain

richter915
12/17/05, 07:36 PM
Thank you. I just want to see how many say yes so we can change the fucking thing under the politics forum that says "Not my president"
ah such a pussy...no wonder you like the Flyers

look if you can't get over the stupid little thing under the politics thread...stop posting here. It's retarded dude. It's like saying "oh this site says absolutepunk...we should only talk about punk"...it's just a thing...it has no meaning...

justinevans
12/17/05, 07:38 PM
ah such a pussy...no wonder you like the Flyers

look if you can't get over the stupid little thing under the politics thread...stop posting here. It's retarded dude. It's like saying "oh this site says absolutepunk...we should only talk about punk"...it's just a thing...it has no meaning...

I'm a pussy cause I like the Flyers....number one hockey town mother fucker.

commatosa
12/17/05, 07:51 PM
I don't consider him to be my president cause I'm not responsible for putting him in office. Well actually I did vote for him the first time (what was I thinking?) But not in 2004. At one point after the 2004 election I said to myself "well, I guess we have to get behind him cause he won fair and square," but that went out of the window immediately. The great thing about this country is our right to disagree. There's always going to be citizens pressing to change things for the better. As long as that continues, we'll be okay. But lately I feel (along with the majority of the world) that we're kind of going backwards....

splitsecond
12/17/05, 08:28 PM
Tate would never change the subtitle. Unless a dem got elected.

weezer182
12/17/05, 08:48 PM
I'm a pussy cause I like the Flyers....number one hockey town mother fucker.no its not

Lueda Alia
12/17/05, 08:49 PM
nope.

CorporateFish
12/17/05, 08:56 PM
That was a bit too simple..

theESCO
12/18/05, 12:20 AM
Correction: he is the President (capital "p"). He technical holds the office of the presidency, and therefore I recognize him as "the" President of the U.S. But when you're asking whether I consider him to be "my" president or not, I think that connotes a question of whether I believe he represents my interests, and the answer to that question is "no." That's not "naivity," it's just my opinion. If by "your" President, you mean "do you consider Bush to be the President," then the answer is "yes;" to answer "no" to that question would not be "naive," it would just be ridiculous.
very well said

justinevans
12/18/05, 02:54 AM
no its not

Actually - it was labeled that. I know - i don't know how it beat out Detroit, but alot of it how to do with the success of the phantoms and how they will sell out some games in the river rats did not.

"When it comes to college basketball and the NHL, we're No. 1. At least that's what the Sporting News says.
The weekly publication yesterday ranked Philadelphia as the nation's No. 2 sports city overall - behind Boston - but named this town the best when it comes to those high-profile winter sports.

The Sporting News rankings take into account regular-season records, playoff berths, championships, tournament bids, stadium quality and fan fervor.

The honor was well received not only on the city's college campuses, but also at the Flyers' practice facility in Voorhees, Camden County, where hockey has returned after the NHL lockout.

"The thing about Philadelphia college basketball," Penn coach Fran Dunphy said, "is that you have six Division I programs in the city. And the rivalries those schools have created over the years - and the great players that have played in those games - have been tremendous."

Temple men's coach John Chaney said Philadelphia has helped put an indelible imprint on the college basketball landscape.

The tradition-rich Big Five programs - La Salle, Penn, St. Joe's, Temple and Villanova - have played an integral part in that. La Salle (1954) and Villanova (1985) have won national titles. The other schools have made at least one Final Four appearance, although St. Joe's showing in 1961 was vacated.

Drexel is the sixth city school competing in Division I.

"Naismith invented the peach basket," Chaney said. "But I believe that college basketball, one of the greatest sports on the earth, was advanced in Philadelphia."

La Salle men's coach John Giannini, coming off his first season, said it was hard not to feel the sense of heritage when it came to Philadelphia college basketball.

"When we have recruits in for official visits, we take them to the Palestra," Giannini said of Penn's home court. "When they get there, I think they get that sense that being in that building is something completely different than anything they have experienced before. It's a unique atmosphere."

The Flyers, idle last season because of the lockout, are chasing their first Stanley Cup title since 1975. And once again, there is a buzz about hockey in the city.

"That is not lost on the players," coach Ken Hitchcock said. "There is a reputation in Philadelphia - from the past, and obviously in the present - that this city has a tremendous hockey environment.

"As excited as players are to play here, I can tell you when visitors come here to play against [the Flyers], they are just as excited. They consider Philadelphia to be the real world stage as far as hockey goes."

Defenseman Derian Hatcher, who joined the Flyers yesterday as a free agent, said Philadelphia always has enjoyed a reputation as a solid hockey city.

"Philadelphia has some of the best fans in all sports," he said. "They have great fans. They want to win a championship there."

"People talk about Philadelphia fans booing, but if you aren't giving 100 percent, they boo you and there is nothing wrong with that environment," center Keith Primeau said. "They are very passionate and love their team. It doesn't surprise me that Philadelphia was named No. 1 for hockey."

The Rankings

According to the Sporting News, Philadelphia ranks No. 1 among cities for college basketball and the NHL, and is No. 2 among sports cities overall. The rankings:

Top Sports Cities

1. Boston

2. Philadelphia

3. Detroit

4. Miami

5. Los Angeles/Anaheim

6. Houston

7. Baltimore/Washington

8. Dallas/Fort Worth

9. Atlanta

10. New York/New Jersey

Individual Sports

Baseball: St. Louis

NBA: San Antonio, Texas

NFL: Green Bay, Wis.

NHL: Philadelphia

College basketball: Philadelphia

College football: Iowa City, Iowa.

NASCAR: Bristol, Tenn. "

justinevans
12/18/05, 02:54 AM
nope.

obviously haha.

selftitled85
12/18/05, 08:39 AM
he is my president. i dont like him nor would i ever vote for him. but we voted him into office fair and square. i dont agree with pretty much anything he says but he is still the legitimate leader of our country.

JacksColdSweat
12/18/05, 10:08 AM
no.

SheepGoMeep
12/18/05, 11:41 AM
nope.:D I think our Prime Minister does though..

jsteil
12/18/05, 11:47 PM
Id like the see a McCain (R) / Lieberman (D) two different parties, two people sort of in the middle but not too left, nor right and possibly might get things done.

justinevans
12/19/05, 06:15 AM
Id like the see a McCain (R) / Lieberman (D) two different parties, two people sort of in the middle but not too left, nor right and possibly might get things done.

won't happen. Lieberman is jewish and our country is too prejudice.

yeat182
12/19/05, 06:31 AM
Oh, I was just wondering. I think McCain is probably the best one out there right now because he represents both sides.


i agree

Rebs
12/19/05, 09:02 AM
I am a citizen of the country, so yes.

Cal Smith
12/19/05, 01:02 PM
Why is Mccain considered moderate or in the middle? He's about as conservative as Bush is on the issues. Most moderate thing he's done that I can think of was cutting a deal with other congressman as far as judge nominations go.

What issues is he a moderate on?

justinevans
12/19/05, 01:11 PM
Why is Mccain considered moderate or in the middle? He's about as conservative as Bush is on the issues. Most moderate thing he's done that I can think of was cutting a deal with other congressman as far as judge nominations go.

What issues is he a moderate on?

I'm just going by what Democrats say.

Cal Smith
12/19/05, 01:29 PM
I'm just going by what Democrats say.

I know but think about it.

--supports war in Iraq
--supports Bush social security plan
--very conservative on spending (best quality)
--supports school vouchers
--supports securing the border
--supports free markets and free trade
--i'm also about 95% positive he's pro-life

justinevans
12/19/05, 01:32 PM
I know but think about it.

--supports war in Iraq
--supports Bush social security plan
--very conservative on spending (best quality)
--supports school vouchers
--supports securing the border
--supports free markets and free trade
--i'm also about 95% positive he's pro-life

Want to know something funny...liberals were the first to bring about free markets.

In other news, you see that shit that happened in miami today? i hope it wasn't any of my friends.

Do you see a problem with Bush's social security plan? If i had a choice, I'd say we should just well, sadly, kill off some old people haha.

Justin_stacy
12/19/05, 11:35 PM
won't happen. Lieberman is jewish and our country is too prejudice.

Boy lets just ignore reality why don't we........religion is not Lieberman's problem. Its politics, plain and simple, Lieberman is a true moderate who has aligned himself with a party currently controlled by fanatics. That is the reason he had no chance in 04' and has no chance in 08'.....it has nothing to do with him being Jewish...

Lieberman's, and dare I say America’s, only hope (as we need someone like him as a leader) is that he switches party. But like Zell he has said he has no interest in doing that currently.


This about sums up the democratic opinion, doesn’t it?
http://www.ucomics.com/patoliphant/2005/12/13/

justinevans
12/20/05, 02:50 AM
Boy lets just ignore reality why don't we........religion is not Lieberman's problem. Its politics, plain and simple, Lieberman is a true moderate who has aligned himself with a party currently controlled by fanatics. That is the reason he had no chance in 04' and has no chance in 08'.....it has nothing to do with him being Jewish...

Lieberman's, and dare I say America’s, only hope (as we need someone like him as a leader) is that he switches party. But like Zell he has said he has no interest in doing that currently.


This about sums up the democratic opinion, doesn’t it?
http://www.ucomics.com/patoliphant/2005/12/13/

trust me the religious freaks will bring some crap up about it if he were republican.

splitsecond
12/20/05, 10:49 AM
Boy lets just ignore reality why don't we........religion is not Lieberman's problem. Its politics, plain and simple, Lieberman is a true moderate who has aligned himself with a party currently controlled by fanatics. That is the reason he had no chance in 04' and has no chance in 08'.....it has nothing to do with him being Jewish...

Lieberman's, and dare I say America’s, only hope (as we need someone like him as a leader) is that he switches party. But like Zell he has said he has no interest in doing that currently.


This about sums up the democratic opinion, doesn’t it?
http://www.ucomics.com/patoliphant/2005/12/13/

I agree, but it would be hard for a Jew to win the Southern vote. However, if any a Jew could do it, it would probably be Lieberman.

jsteil
12/20/05, 11:20 AM
Thats why I said a McCain (R) / Lieberman (D) ticket would be pretty cool and I'm not talking about one of them switching parties, but a joint party thats fed up with whats going on. Im pretty sure it would cut alot of the north eastern states in half and they could win alot of the border line states like Missouri, New Mexico, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minn, Oregon, maybe even florida. Im pretty sure they could even have a strong push in the border states such as Texas, and ofcourse Arizona.


Cal I call him a moderate republican because from reading his speeches and his tv/radio interviews hes pretty strait forward and I believe he knows what hes talking about, I would concider myself a Democrate and yet I would trust what McCain says alot more than half the Democratic party.

angryandconfusd
12/24/05, 02:01 AM
intreristing idea. At least then we wouldnt have this harmedicly sealed white house whose administration keeps making the same mistakes over and over again because it does not listen to anybody.

youcomebeforeyo
12/24/05, 03:25 AM
On the presedential debate, I read a big article in my paper I think taken from the Washington Post looking at the race in 08.

They reckon a Rice/Hillary race was very likely.

Rice would give her a run for her money. Being a women and black would strike right at democrat voters.

justinevans
12/24/05, 05:43 AM
On the presedential debate, I read a big article in my paper I think taken from the Washington Post looking at the race in 08.

They reckon a Rice/Hillary race was very likely.

Rice would give her a run for her money. Being a women and black would strike right at democrat voters.

if that happens, cya.

Justin_stacy
12/24/05, 05:15 PM
I think a Hilary vs. Rice battle is highly unlikely.......realistically I think the RNC is going to try and distance itself from the Bush Administration in 08', rightfully or wrongly. I think the best guess now is Giuliani (with McCain now likely the VP) vs. Hilary/Feingold (the DNC perceived moderate and a leftist liberal).....which would obviously give Giuliani a small advantage from the get go.

justinevans
12/24/05, 08:20 PM
i'm leaving the country if that happens.

Dandy-Hand
12/30/05, 06:50 PM
Correction: he is the President (capital "p"). He technical holds the office of the presidency, and therefore I recognize him as "the" President of the U.S. But when you're asking whether I consider him to be "my" president or not, I think that connotes a question of whether I believe he represents my interests, and the answer to that question is "no." That's not "naivity," it's just my opinion. If by "your" President, you mean "do you consider Bush to be the President," then the answer is "yes;" to answer "no" to that question would not be "naive," it would just be ridiculous.

Well he is your president because he is the leader, therefore he is the president. It doesn't matter if you agree with him or not, he's your president, whether you like it or not.

LeftWideOpen
12/31/05, 02:03 PM
look for Clinton/Richardson as the Democratic ticket in 2008. Clinton and Gore almost chose him as VP, so the 3rd time is a charm. I think he may give Hillary a run for her money in the primary too.

Louballs
01/04/06, 01:35 PM
Well he is your president because he is the leader, therefore he is the president. It doesn't matter if you agree with him or not, he's your president, whether you like it or not.

Boy, that sure showed me. "He is your president therefore he is the president." Wow. How could I have missed it? I think you should re-read my post that you quoted, and maybe try a little harder to understand it. If that doesn't work, maybe find a smarter friend to explain it to you.

preppyak
01/04/06, 03:54 PM
Boy, that sure showed me. "He is your president therefore he is the president." Wow. How could I have missed it? I think you should re-read my post that you quoted, and maybe try a little harder to understand it. If that doesn't work, maybe find a smarter friend to explain it to you.
haha, give him a break, he's actually 12, so he probably did misunderstand it.

patpratt
01/04/06, 03:59 PM
ah such a pussy...no wonder you like the Flyers

look if you can't get over the stupid little thing under the politics thread...stop posting here. It's retarded dude. It's like saying "oh this site says absolutepunk...we should only talk about punk"...it's just a thing...it has no meaning...

it's just a little different than that.

mrs_ramsey
01/05/06, 09:50 AM
NO PEOPLE!!!! that is the correct answer and only 26 of you came up with it!?

halifaxsb86
01/05/06, 09:52 AM
yes

ClapClapSnap
01/05/06, 01:20 PM
NO PEOPLE!!!! that is the correct answer and only 26 of you came up with it!?


:ass:

justinevans
01/05/06, 07:36 PM
NO PEOPLE!!!! that is the correct answer and only 26 of you came up with it!?

no it's not.

Rebs
01/06/06, 06:43 AM
NO PEOPLE!!!! that is the correct answer and only 26 of you came up with it!?
Except that it is an opinion question, and if you are a citizen of the United States, technically he is your president.

thedood
01/06/06, 06:45 AM
Nope, despite what he says, he is not the leader of the ENTIRE free world. Only America. It's great to be Canadian.

A7Xchik16
01/06/06, 07:56 AM
wellhe obviously is the president but it doesnt mean we have to agree with his biews

Coronary Parasite
01/06/06, 08:19 AM
wellhe obviously is the president but it doesnt mean we have to agree with his biews
you COMPLETELY missed the point of the question. and need to watch before you post.