Top 10 current NBA players who are white

[mikeford]

EUROPEANS DO NOT COUNT.

i will be posting mine as soon as i can track down 10 good white players in 2005

go.

and since people GOTTA complain and loophole its NORTH AMERICAN BORN WHITES ONLY

[b e L I E v e]

Theres non-european players in the NBA?

who knew

[BuriedAlive]

Steve Nash, Andrei Kirilenko, Mike Bibby, Jason Kidd, Bob Sura, Manu Ginobli, Brent Barry, Jon Barry, Dan Dickau, Kirk Hinrich, Raef Lafrentz, Brad Miller, Mike Miller, Troy Murphy, Wally Szczerbiak

1. Steve Nash
2. Andrei Kirilenko
3. Jason Kidd
4. Manu Ginobli
5. Mike Bibby
6. Kirk Hinrich
7. Troy Murphy
8. Raef Lafrentz
9. Brad Miller
10. Wally Szczerbiak

There's my top 10 white boys.

[Caleb Cattivera]

bibby and kidd are black...

well halfies.

[mikeford]

jason kidd is NOT fuckin white.

sorry.

AK47 was born in russia.... not applicable.

manu is not white, hes from argentina.

[Caleb Cattivera]

i dont see why european players have to be out.

there is black european players too.

[mikeford]

cuz white euros are a different breed of basketball player.

[weezer182]

mine is something like this...
1. steve nash
2. wally szczerbiak
3. kirk hinrich
4. brad miller
5. mike miller
6. troy murphy
7. matt harpring
8. luke ridnour
9. jason williams
10. kyle korver

[Caleb Cattivera]

cuz white euros are a different breed of basketball player.

different breed? that's dumb. there are good europeans, but not all of them that come over are good.

[Caleb Cattivera]

mine is something like this...
1. steve nash
2. wally szczerbiak
3. kirk hinrich
4. brad miller
5. mike miller
6. troy murphy
7. matt harpring
8. luke ridnour
9. jason williams
10. kyle korver

wally is from spain. nash was born in south africa.

they shouldnt count either.

[BuriedAlive]

jason kidd is NOT fuckin white.

sorry.

AK47 was born in russia.... not applicable.

manu is not white, hes from argentina.
Russia isn't in Europe, neither is Argentina. Jason Kidd is white... He's just as white as black.

[BuriedAlive]

wally is from spain. nash was born in south africa.

they shouldnt count either.
"EUROPEANS DO NOT COUNT.

i will be posting mine as soon as i can track down 10 good white players in 2005

go."

Where the hell does that say they have to be born in the USA? Doesn't, just say's No europeans. Wally went to college in Ohio. So all that aren't European should count or specify more before asking such.

[Caleb Cattivera]

"EUROPEANS DO NOT COUNT.

i will be posting mine as soon as i can track down 10 good white players in 2005

go."

Where the hell does that say they have to be born in the USA? Doesn't, just say's No europeans. Wally went to college in Ohio. So all that aren't European should count or specify more before asking such.

i know im just trying to impose mikefords dumb rules as much as possible. we're talking WHITE players. this is a dumb list to make without the euros. matt harpring and raef lafrentz shouldnt be in any form of top ten lists that have BEST in the title haha.

[mikeford]

haha thats why im doin it cuz putting those dudes on a top 10 best is fucking funny.


ps i still cant find 10 white dudes worth putting on my list. haha fuck.

[Caleb Cattivera]

haha thats why im doin it cuz putting those dudes on a top 10 best is fucking funny.


ps i still cant find 10 white dudes worth putting on my list. haha fuck.

haha ill never make this list because ill probably be forced to put those guys in there. and i just cant do that.

[mikeford]

haha ill never make this list because ill probably be forced to put those guys in there. and i just cant do that.

yo dan dickau is like 5th on my list right now... haha sad state of affairs here.

[Caleb Cattivera]

yo dan dickau is like 5th on my list right now... haha sad state of affairs here.

hahahahahahaha. score!

[somethingyellow]

this tread failed

[weezer182]

wally is from spain. nash was born in south africa.

they shouldnt count either.just because nash is born in south africa doesnt mean he is south african. he is a canadian citizen who grew up in victoria bc and played college basketball in the u.s so therefore he is not "european". wally is american

[mat1419]

brian morrison anyone?

[Caleb Cattivera]

just because nash is born in south africa doesnt mean he is south african. he is a canadian citizen who grew up in victoria bc and played college basketball in the u.s so therefore he is not "european". wally is american

just going by the rules man. wally is from spain...nash was born in south africa...

that's still where they were born.

my dad was born in japan, but was raised in america...he's still considered japanese.

[weezer182]

just going by the rules man. wally is from spain...nash was born in south africa...

that's still where they were born.

my dad was born in japan, but was raised in america...he's still considered japanese.yea i dont think the "all" the rules were up when i did it. maybe it was but i just didnt see it. i dont know anyone though who considers nash south african or wally spanish. it should of just been american white players. oh well :\

[BuriedAlive]

White players stopped playing basketball because the art of a jumpshot has lost its worth in the NBA =/ that's all us white boys can do.

[NameTaken69]

yo dan dickau is like 5th on my list right now... haha sad state of affairs here.
haha thats great, yea i quit i couldnt get 10

[itsjdiggity]

hmmm...white players...

[Ravenna]

where is keith van horn when you need him?

[CallMeChief]

where is keith van horn when you need him?

never thought anyone would need keith van horn. ever.

[BuriedAlive]

where is keith van horn when you need him?
sucking ass.

[Ravenna]

sucking ass.
no doubt. im not too sure whats worse, his game or his haircut

[Emopunkthrice]

Pat Burke!!!!

[itsjdiggity]

Pat Burke!!!!

isn't he an irish fuck

[Caleb Cattivera]

sucking ass.

he's never been the player he had the potential to be. but none the less he's got a career average of 18 ppg and 7 rpg. that's not too shabby if you ask me. he's also become one of, if not the most important sixth man in the nba today. no one expected the mavericks to be as good as they are, and his offensive spark off the bench is a big reason of that. he's averaging a modest 11ppg and 5 rpg off the bench for a good mavericks team...

i think he's done alright for himself.

[weezer182]

he's never been the player he had the potential to be. but none the less he's got a career average of 18 ppg and 7 rpg. that's not too shabby if you ask me. he's also become one of, if not the most important sixth man in the nba today. no one expected the mavericks to be as good as they are, and his offensive spark off the bench is a big reason of that. he's averaging a modest 11ppg and 5 rpg off the bench for a good mavericks team...

i think he's done alright for himself.made himself a good career as a role player

[Caleb Cattivera]

made himself a good career as a role player

i think 97 was a very underrated draft. there were a few good role players to come out of that draft.

[itsjdiggity]

1. Nick Collison
2. Luke Ridnour
3. Robert Swift

[itsjdiggity]

1. Brad Miller
2. Kirk Hinrich
3. Troy Murphy
4. Mike Miller
5. Matt Harpring
6. Jason Williams
7. Wally Szczerbiak
8. Luke Ridnour
9. Nick Collison
10. Kyle Korver

[BuriedAlive]

he's never been the player he had the potential to be. but none the less he's got a career average of 18 ppg and 7 rpg. that's not too shabby if you ask me. he's also become one of, if not the most important sixth man in the nba today. no one expected the mavericks to be as good as they are, and his offensive spark off the bench is a big reason of that. he's averaging a modest 11ppg and 5 rpg off the bench for a good mavericks team...

i think he's done alright for himself.
He plays for a team that can shoot and can't rebound. That's where his 5 rpg come from. He sucks so bad he's always open... if you can hit a jumper wide open you shouldn't be in the end. period. The Mavs are probably the second best team in the West with or without Van Horn...

[yeat182]

EUROPEANS DO NOT COUNT.


truer words were never spoken.

[yeat182]

1.dan dickau
2 -10. everyone else.

[itsjdiggity]

1.dan dickau
2 -10. everyone else.

truer words were never spoken.

[somethingyellow]

if this thread was posted last year i bet nobody would be making fun of dickau

[itsjdiggity]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20051218/capt.cxa10512180422.celtics_bulls_b asketball_cxa105.jpg

[CallMeChief]

he's never been the player he had the potential to be. but none the less he's got a career average of 18 ppg and 7 rpg. that's not too shabby if you ask me. he's also become one of, if not the most important sixth man in the nba today. no one expected the mavericks to be as good as they are, and his offensive spark off the bench is a big reason of that. he's averaging a modest 11ppg and 5 rpg off the bench for a good mavericks team...

i think he's done alright for himself.

as a nets fan, every game back in the days when they had him went like this:

1. Nets play great in the first three quarters
2. For some reason, Byron Scott always took out other four starters, leaving him in at the beginning of the fourth quarter
3. He misses 400000 threes, plays miserable defense, and makes the bench look worse than it is
4. Starters come back in, and a 30 point lead turns into a win by 2, a loss, or an overtime toss up.

I'm just sore about it. ESPECIALLY when he was absolutely horrendous that one year we went to the finals, when boston kept coming back in the fourth quarter and embarassing the team, all thanks to kvh, nine times out of ten, when i watched the games. uggghhhh its all coming back to me now...

[Caleb Cattivera]

He plays for a team that can shoot and can't rebound. That's where his 5 rpg come from. He sucks so bad he's always open... if you can hit a jumper wide open you shouldn't be in the end. period. The Mavs are probably the second best team in the West with or without Van Horn...

that's a false statement. he's on a team that's in the top 10 in team rebounding, team points, and they're second in theam fg% only behind the spurs. if they hadnt had his 11 ppg this season, stastically they wouldnt won half of the games they have. your whole statement is false. he's one of the best role players the mavs have.

[Caleb Cattivera]

as a nets fan, every game back in the days when they had him went like this:

1. Nets play great in the first three quarters
2. For some reason, Byron Scott always took out other four starters, leaving him in at the beginning of the fourth quarter
3. He misses 400000 threes, plays miserable defense, and makes the bench look worse than it is
4. Starters come back in, and a 30 point lead turns into a win by 2, a loss, or an overtime toss up.

I'm just sore about it. ESPECIALLY when he was absolutely horrendous that one year we went to the finals, when boston kept coming back in the fourth quarter and embarassing the team, all thanks to kvh, nine times out of ten, when i watched the games. uggghhhh its all coming back to me now...

well then i wouldnt place the entire blame on KVH if your idiot coach took all the starters out but him...he couldnt do it by himself. he was in the top 20 in 3 point fg% the year they went to the finals. so i wouldnt say he missed as many as you did. and had it not been for his 15 and 7 per game...the nets probably wouldnt have even been in the finals.

like i said, he hasnt been what everyone expected...but he's had a much better nba career than alot of players have.

[richter915]

jason kidd is NOT fuckin white.

sorry.

AK47 was born in russia.... not applicable.

manu is not white, hes from argentina.
hahahaha

[Scott Weber]

Russia isn't in Europe, neither is Argentina. Jason Kidd is white... He's just as white as black.
haha did you seriously just put Bibby and Kidd in the best white players in the league? That's like calling Tiger Woods the best asian golfer in the world.

[Caleb Cattivera]

haha did you seriously just put Bibby and Kidd in the best white players in the league? That's like calling Tiger Woods the best asian golfer in the world.

hahaha.

[Scott Weber]

He plays for a team that can shoot and can't rebound. That's where his 5 rpg come from. He sucks so bad he's always open... if you can hit a jumper wide open you shouldn't be in the end. period. The Mavs are probably the second best team in the West with or without Van Horn...
good god, you know nothing about basketball, why do you even post in the sports forum?

[Spicoli hey bud]

Fuck this non- european shit...
1. Dirk
2. steve nash
3. brad miller
4. Peja
5. Pau
6. jason williams
7. wally
8. troy muphy
9. korver
10. hinrich

[Caleb Cattivera]

Fuck this non- european shit...
1. Dirk
2. steve nash
3. brad miller
4. Peja
5. Pau
6. jason williams
7. wally
8. troy muphy
9. korver
10. hinrich

thats almost exactly how my list would've looked. i would've taken korver off that list and put ridnour in...korvers a one dimensional player...ridnour's turning into a good point guard.

[Spicoli hey bud]

thats almost exactly how my list would've looked. i would've taken korver off that list and put ridnour in...korvers a one dimensional player...ridnour's turning into a good point guard.
Ridnour and Turkoglu were next in line...maybe Big Z too

AK and Ginobli prob fit in there after further consideration

[Scott Weber]

i heard LeBron's grandmother's cousin's nephew is white, can I put him on my list?

[Spicoli hey bud]

Tony Parker should count

[Caleb Cattivera]

whoa didnt see you had jason williams at #6. thats pushing it. he shouldnt even be on there. manu should be #6.

[itsjdiggity]

i heard LeBron's grandmother's cousin's nephew is white, can I put him on my list?

Chadwick Bradford James can ball

[BuriedAlive]

that's a false statement. he's on a team that's in the top 10 in team rebounding, team points, and they're second in theam fg% only behind the spurs. if they hadnt had his 11 ppg this season, stastically they wouldnt won half of the games they have. your whole statement is false. he's one of the best role players the mavs have.
It was more of me making a mockery of him is all. I wasn't trying to be correct with my statement. hehe.

[BuriedAlive]

good god, you know nothing about basketball, why do you even post in the sports forum?
it was a joke homie. jees. sometimes you peeps take this WAY too seriously. Get laid on the occasion! =)

[weezer182]

Fuck this non- european shit...
1. Dirk
2. steve nash
3. brad miller
4. Peja
5. Pau
6. jason williams
7. wally
8. troy muphy
9. korver
10. hinrichsteve nash is better then dirk though

[Scott Weber]

it was a joke homie. jees. sometimes you peeps take this WAY too seriously. Get laid on the occasion! =)
Or you could just try and Sportscenter once a week so that you knew what you were talking about. The sports forum is about debates, so when you come in here you have to know what you're talking about. Didn't sound like a joke at all. Just sounded like you threw around some numbers, got owned by other members, and now you're retracting by saying that it was a joke.

[somethingyellow]

Or you could just try and Sportscenter once a week so that you knew what you were talking about. The sports forum is about debates, so when you come in here you have to know what you're talking about. Didn't sound like a joke at all. Just sounded like you threw around some numbers, got owned by other members, and now you're retracting by saying that it was a joke.
haha :pwned:

[Spicoli hey bud]

steve nash is better then dirk though
but he's not

[Caleb Cattivera]

but he's not

that's a toss up. it's hard to define who's 'better'. but if i had to pick, id probably pick nash too. he's more vital to his team than dirk is. last season when he missed those six games, the suns lost every one of those games by 10 or more. proving how vital he is to the suns.

once again it's hard to decide...but i think nash means more to his team than dirk does...he may not put up as good of stats...but i think he's more of a leader.

[somethingyellow]

that's a toss up. it's hard to define who's 'better'. but if i had to pick, id probably pick nash too. he's more vital to his team than dirk is. last season when he missed those six games, the suns lost every one of those games by 10 or more. proving how vital he is to the suns.

once again it's hard to decide...but i think nash means more to his team than dirk does...he may not put up as good of stats...but i think he's more of a leader.
i couldnt have said it better, they are both great players but nash is just more valuable because he makes the players around him a lot better and a better leader, i still really like dirk and consider him one of the top players in the league too

[Spicoli hey bud]

that's a toss up. it's hard to define who's 'better'. but if i had to pick, id probably pick nash too. he's more vital to his team than dirk is. last season when he missed those six games, the suns lost every one of those games by 10 or more. proving how vital he is to the suns.

once again it's hard to decide...but i think nash means more to his team than dirk does...he may not put up as good of stats...but i think he's more of a leader.
I'm using better in the sense that I think that Dirk is a slightly better talent than Nash, everything else aside. He produces better stats, and he is more diminant of a player. I'm not taking anything away from Nash, but Dirk is "better."

[somethingyellow]

I'm using better in the sense that I think that Dirk is a slightly better talent than Nash, everything else aside. He produces better stats, and he is more diminant of a player. I'm not taking anything away from Nash, but Dirk is "better."he produces better stats because nash is a pass first point guard

[Spicoli hey bud]

he produces better stats because nash is a pass first point guard
Nash has the intangibles. And he's THE best true point guard in the league. I still think Dirk is a better basketball player.

[Caleb Cattivera]

Nash has the intangibles. And he's THE best true point guard in the league. I still think Dirk is a better basketball player.

when i think of better...i think of someone who is able to lead...and who is more vital to their team..for instance the suns record in 2004 was 29 and 53 with the addition of nash they were 62 and 20. their offense went from the 22nd ranked offense in the leauge in 2004 to the first ranked offense in 2005. nash also helped them improve their defense, moving from 23rd to 17th. and also with the addition of nash they went from not making the playoffs in 2004 to making the western conference finals.

i think those stats show that nash is a better player, going by overall performance.

another interesting stat is that in 2004...is the mavericks offense was rated #1 but with the subtraction of nash in 2005, they moved to #4.

[somethingyellow]

id rather have nash over dirk thats just me

[BuriedAlive]

Or you could just try and Sportscenter once a week so that you knew what you were talking about. The sports forum is about debates, so when you come in here you have to know what you're talking about. Didn't sound like a joke at all. Just sounded like you threw around some numbers, got owned by other members, and now you're retracting by saying that it was a joke.
nah, I had no intention of meaning anything by my statement. To say the sports forum is about debates is an off statement. Most of its making fun of players (which I've seen alot) or posting something that happened. There are the occasional debates. I didnt throw around numbers either. I used the same number caleb did, my friend. I don't know Van Horn's stats and when I said he was sucking ass I was again joking. The only part in my statement I meant was the fact that you have to be able to knock down open shots, that's a given. I know plenty about sports, just not much about Keith Van Horn and his career stats since he's always been an Antonie Walker type that make me want to rake my eyes out. Van Horn can rebound, can score, and can throw up some of the stupidest shots I've ever seen.

[Spicoli hey bud]

nah, I had no intention of meaning anything by my statement. To say the sports forum is about debates is an off statement. Most of its making fun of players (which I've seen alot) or posting something that happened. There are the occasional debates. I didnt throw around numbers either. I used the same number caleb did, my friend. I don't know Van Horn's stats and when I said he was sucking ass I was again joking. The only part in my statement I meant was the fact that you have to be able to knock down open shots, that's a given. I know plenty about sports, just not much about Keith Van Horn and his career stats since he's always been an Antonie Walker type that make me want to rake my eyes out. Van Horn can rebound, can score, and can throw up some of the stupidest shots I've ever seen.
i disagree

[weezer182]

Nash has the intangibles. And he's THE best true point guard in the league. I still think Dirk is a better basketball player.nash also won the most valuable player award

[itsjdiggity]

http://i23.ebayimg.com/03/i/05/cc/49/cd_1.JPG

[Broken Parachute]

Steve Kerr is the all time best white player. :pokeball:

I'll say current has to be Kirk Hinrich and Luke Ridnour. Jason Kidd is kinda spanish and black with light skin, does that count as white though?

[Broken Parachute]

Oh, Mike Dunleavy...what an All American.

[itsjdiggity]

Jason Kidd's kid has a huge fucking head
http://www.nba.com/media/usab/allenII_tj_254_030831.jpg

[Caleb Cattivera]

Steve Kerr is the all time best white player. :pokeball:

I'll say current has to be Kirk Hinrich and Luke Ridnour. Jason Kidd is kinda spanish and black with light skin, does that count as white though?

kirk and luke the best white players...PUHLEASE. you crazy.

[somethingyellow]

Steve Kerr is the all time best white player. :pokeball:

I'll say current has to be Kirk Hinrich and Luke Ridnour. Jason Kidd is kinda spanish and black with light skin, does that count as white though?
you dont know much about basketball do you? unless that was a joke

[Scott Weber]

you dont know much about basketball do you? unless that was a joke
yeah seriously, that made me laugh

[Broken Parachute]

Well, he said no Europeans and since the NBA is mostly black and European I really couldn't think of any really great white players. So I just picked two random ones.

[Scott Weber]

Well, he said no Europeans and since the NBA is mostly black and European I really couldn't think of any really great white players. So I just picked two random ones.
Um, how about Steve Nash, the LEAGUE MVP last year. Hahahaha

[itsjdiggity]

Um, how about Steve Nash, the LEAGUE MVP last year. Hahahaha

:canada:

[Scott Weber]

:canada:
nobody said they had to be American, just non-european. By the way, Nick Collison is sucking as of late.

[Broken Parachute]

Forgot about Nash. :[ I'll just stop talking. :P

[itsjdiggity]

nobody said they had to be American, just non-european. By the way, Nick Collison is sucking as of late.

reggie evans overplays too much, causing him to get beat on the dribble, and when nick has to help, he gets called for a foul

[Scott Weber]

reggie evans overplays too much, causing him to get beat on the dribble, and when nick has to help, he gets called for a foul
That's not it at all, but ok. Nick Collison is turning out to be a very mediocre basketball players. He is missing wide open jumpers on the baseline far more than he should. Often he doesn't even get enough arc on his shot to get it in. He's been flat-footed and his hustle is way down from what it was last year.

[itsjdiggity]

That's not it at all, but ok. Nick Collison is turning out to be a very mediocre basketball players. He is missing wide open jumpers on the baseline far more than he should. Often he doesn't even get enough arc on his shot to get it in. He's been flat-footed and his hustle is way down from what it was last year.

i don't see a lot of confidence in the Sonics...Nick Collison has been working out his jumper but it has still been inconsistent...still, i'd rather have him in the game than potapenko

[Scott Weber]

i don't see a lot of confidence in the Sonics...Nick Collison has been working out his jumper but it has still been inconsistent...still, i'd rather have him in the game than potapenko
Me too. I just don't think Collison is all that great of a player.

[itsjdiggity]

Me too. I just don't think Collison is all that great of a player.

he's a good role player who's in his 2nd year...he's developed faster than a lot of players

[Scott Weber]

he's a good role player who's in his 2nd year...he's developed faster than a lot of players
Sorry dude, he'll never be a star.

[itsjdiggity]

Sorry dude, he'll never be a star.

i'm not saying he will be...i'm just saying he's the type of player that many teams would kill for...a solid role player who's a hard worker and a good teammate

i would like to see how he does along side a real big man who is not named james, potapenko, swift, or mikki

[Caleb Cattivera]

my jump shot>niki collison's jump shot

[somethingyellow]

Well, he said no Europeans and since the NBA is mostly black and European I really couldn't think of any really great white players. So I just picked two random ones.
how about best all time white player larry bird, not steve kerr

[weezer182]

Sorry dude, he'll never be a star.i agree

[jpgretzky15]

all the white guys on fantasy teams in my league:

mike dunleavy
chris kaman
kirk heinrich
jason williams
troy murphy
mike miller
steve nash
keith van horn
brent barry
luke ridnour
kyle korver
chris mihm
nick collison
matt harpring
wally szcerbiak
brad miller

[Broken Parachute]

how about best all time white player larry bird, not steve kerr

Now THAT was a joke. If I was being serious I might have said Kevin McHale or Larry Bird. But that was a joke. I made a Steve Kerr being the best player on the Bulls joke in another thread too.

[somethingyellow]

Now THAT was a joke. If I was being serious I might have said Kevin McHale or Larry Bird. But that was a joke. I made a Steve Kerr being the best player on the Bulls joke in another thread too.
haha good