Official 2005 NFL Pro Bowl Thread

[still_life]

Teams will be announced today at 4pm, so let's talk about it in here. Before they're released and we argue about snubs, who do you think should go?

QB (3)
AFC -
NFC -

RB (3)
AFC -
NFC -

WR (4)
AFC -
NFC -

TE (2)
AFC -
NFC -

O-line - just name some guys instead of going through each position
LB - same thing
DL - same
DB - same

Kicker
AFC -
NFC -

Punter
AFC -
NFC -

[still_life]

QB (3)
AFC - Manning, Palmer, Brees
NFC - Hasselbeck, Brunell, Manning

RB (3)
AFC - Edge, LT, LJ
NFC - Alexander, Barber, Dunn

WR (4)
AFC - Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward
NFC - Steve Smith, Larry Fitzgerald, Santana Moss, Joey Galloway

TE (2)
AFC - Antonio Gates, Trash Heap
NFC - Shockey, Cooley

O-line - Alan Faneca, Will Shields, Jeff Saturday, Steve Hutchinson, Walter Jones
LB - Cato June, Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs, Zach Thomas, Adalius Thomas, Rosevelt Colvin, Nick Barnett, Keith Brooking

DL - Michael Strahan, Dwight Freeney, Osi, Simeon Rice, Ogunleye, Derrick Burgess, Jason Taylor, Robert Mathis

DB
AFC - Troy Polamalu (SS), Champ Bailey (CB), Deltha O'Neal (CB), Greg Wesley (FS)
NFC - Adrian Wilson (SS), Darren Sharper (FS), Nathan Vasher (CB), Ronde Barber (CB)

Kicker
AFC - Shayne Graham
NFC - Neil Rackers

Punter
AFC - Josh Miller
NFC - Chris Kluwe

[itsjdiggity]

i hope vanden bosch makes it

[yeat182]

QB (3)
AFC - Manning, Palmer, Brees
NFC - Hasselbeck, Brunell, Manning

RB (3)
AFC - Edge, LT, LJ
NFC - Alexander, Barber, Dunn

WR (4)
AFC - Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward
NFC - Steve Smith, Larry Fitzgerald, Santana Moss, Joey Galloway

TE (2)
AFC - Antonio Gates, Trash Heap
NFC - Shockey, Cooley

O-line - Alan Faneca, Will Shields, Jeff Saturday, Steve Hutchinson, Walter Jones
LB - Cato June, Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs, Zach Thomas, Adalius Thomas, Rosevelt Colvin, Nick Barnett, Keith Brooking

DL - Michael Strahan, Dwight Freeney, Osi, Simeon Rice, Ogunleye, Derrick Burgess, Jason Taylor, Robert Mathis

DB
AFC - Troy Polamalu (SS), Champ Bailey (CB), Deltha O'Neal (CB), Greg Wesley (FS)
NFC - Adrian Wilson (SS), Darren Sharper (FS), Nathan Vasher (CB), Ronde Barber (CB)

Kicker
AFC - Shayne Graham
NFC - Neil Rackers

Punter
AFC - Josh Miller
NFC - Chris Kluwe


wow, 2 patriots made your list, its a christmas miracle!

[Jesse2]

QB (3)
AFC - Manning, Palmer, Brees
NFC - Hasselbeck, Brunell, Manning

RB (3)
AFC - Edge, LT, LJ
NFC - Alexander, Barber, Dunn

WR (4)
AFC - Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward
NFC - Steve Smith, Larry Fitzgerald, Santana Moss, Joey Galloway

TE (2)
AFC - Antonio Gates, Trash Heap
NFC - Shockey, Cooley

O-line - Alan Faneca, Will Shields, Jeff Saturday, Steve Hutchinson, Walter Jones
LB - Cato June, Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs, Zach Thomas, Adalius Thomas, Rosevelt Colvin, Nick Barnett, Keith Brooking

DL - Michael Strahan, Dwight Freeney, Osi, Simeon Rice, Ogunleye, Derrick Burgess, Jason Taylor, Robert Mathis

DB
AFC - Troy Polamalu (SS), Champ Bailey (CB), Deltha O'Neal (CB), Greg Wesley (FS)
NFC - Adrian Wilson (SS), Darren Sharper (FS), Nathan Vasher (CB), Ronde Barber (CB)

Kicker
AFC - Shayne Graham
NFC - Neil Rackers

Punter
AFC - Josh Miller
NFC - Chris Kluwe

I think you're right about most of those. Although I'd have Brian Moorman as my AFC punter.

[Emopunkthrice]

man, my like all my relatives are lucky, and go to this every year, I'm so moving there after high schools done.

[Jesse2]

man, my like all my relatives are lucky, and go to this every year, I'm so moving there after high schools done.

my best friend/roommate from college moved out to hawaii to teach high school. i went to visit him last winter, and he's living the life. if you get the chance to move there i definitely suggest you do :).

[LeftWideOpen]

i have a real hard time believing Manning and Brees are worthy of the Pro Bowl.

Brady has a better QB rating than Brees, more yards, and less INTs. If you consider value to a team too ..its not even a close race. Either way, hes got better stats.

Manning has thrown 16 INTs, only Favre and Brooks have thrown more. He's 22nd in the league in QB rating. He barely completes 50 % of his passes. Hasselbeck and Brunell should be in for sure, with Delhomme or Bledsoe as the 3rd.

[still_life]

Brees has 40 less attempts than Brady, and is completing 65.6% of his passes, and has just as many TDs. Not to mention he's the QB that got it done against the Colts this year.

Vick made it, so Eli definitely deserved it.

[LeftWideOpen]

Brees has 40 less attempts than Brady, and is completing 65.6% of his passes, and has just as many TDs. Not to mention he's the QB that got it done against the Colts this year.

Vick made it, so Eli definitely deserved it.

haha ..nice logic. "well (x) had a better season than (y), so he should be in the game". delhomme, brunnell, and bledsoe all had better stats than manning. i agree that vick shouldnt be there - but manning has hardly any case.

[still_life]

Why shouldn't Manning be there over Delhomme? Steve Smith's doing all the work for him this year with his YAC. Eli is tied for the lead in TD passes in the NFC and leads the conference in yards.

[sweethypocrisy]

manning vs manning wouldve been cool.

[Broken Parachute]

I can't say that Eli makes it. I dunno, I just don't think he can. Barber definitely, maybe Shockey..but not Eli.

[LeftWideOpen]

Why shouldn't Manning be there over Delhomme? Steve Smith's doing all the work for him this year with his YAC. Eli is tied for the lead in TD passes in the NFC and leads the conference in yards.

well the QB rating for each is far apart. Delhomme is at 86.5 and Manning's only at 75.4. Manning has also has the TDs and yards because he attemtped over 100 more passes. Delhomme has over a 60% comp. percentage compared to 52% by Eli. Delhomme has never thrown more than 2 INTs in a game ..Manning has thrown 3 in a game and 4 once too.

Personally, I think Bledsoe has the best case at #3, but Delhomme is certainly #4 ahead of Eli.

Poor Brunell, the guy has a comeback year and gets shafted.

[still_life]

I'm pretty sure Delhomme threw 3 against Detroit and they needed Chris Weinke to throw the game winning TD. Carolina's success on offense is all on Steve Smith this year. Delhomme throws a little pass to him and he takes it 80 yards for the TD. Eli has more TDs and just one more INT than Delhomme, who has turned the ball over enough himself this year (I know that from fantasy football). If you count fumbles, Delhomme has 20 turnovers to Eil's 18.

[LeftWideOpen]

I'm pretty sure Delhomme threw 3 against Detroit and they needed Chris Weinke to throw the game winning TD. Carolina's success on offense is all on Steve Smith this year. Delhomme throws a little pass to him and he takes it 80 yards for the TD. Eli has more TDs and just one more INT than Delhomme, who has turned the ball over enough himself this year (I know that from fantasy football). If you count fumbles, Delhomme has 20 turnovers to Eil's 18.

smith has made delhomme look better, no doubt. but when you compare smith to burress, they're avg. yards per catch are similar, with a slight edge to burress even. manning also has a target in shockey alongside burress that delhomme doesnt have. delhomme shouldnt suffer from smith's ability to get in the endzone. when you consider all the numbers, he has had a better season than manning. still, like i mentioned before ..the 3 with the best case are probably hasselbeck, brunell, and bledsoe - two of which didnt make it.

[still_life]

Steve Smith is #1 in the league with 728 yards after the catch, putting Delhomme at #3 in the league with YAC for a QB (Trent Green is #2 but only has 2 more yards, it's obvious who #1 is). Eli's 11th. Eli has also taken more deep pass attempts than any QB.