define "selling out"

[risk]

is it when a band changes cause their record company tells them to or is it when a band cares more about themselves than the music or is it just going on MTV?


serously im curious everyone gets all crazy when a band shows up on MTV or changes their sound to a little more poppy or little more hardcore or whatever...

what does it matter to you the bands work hard for what they get and if you dont like that i dont see why youd have to whine about how "you see a little teeny bopper" at a show or something....

to me selling out is when a band refuse to meet with the fans or sign an autograph or somethin like that..




yeah i no someones gona be like "y do we always have to bring up stuff about sell outs yadda yadda" im not calling anyone sell out or anything im just wonderin why everyone cares so much.

[LessThanRoger]

Define "Lick My Asshole While Drinking My Cum". Discuss.

[your moms hot]

i sold out

[LessThanRoger]

Originally posted by your moms hot
i sold out I didnt sell out, i bought in.

[AnonomusVsCA]

good charlotte=SELL OUTS

[dont hit me]

bought in.... oooo tricky! i sold out and bought in at the same time! oh! try that one in water!

[everytimeidie]

Originally posted by AnonomusVsCA
good charlotte=SELL OUTS
No they were never at an underground level of any sort.
Selling out is straying from your roots in search of money and fame.

[zach]

selling out is comprimising or changing your morals to make money

[AnonomusVsCA]

well two years ago they were somewhat underground, but they are trying to sell their "punk" image

[MCRfan7]

they are one of the eleat(cant spell) bands where their clothes rock harder then they do(a lot harder) and avril but dont even get me started on that shit

[houseofcards]

I hate sticking up for them but they never sold out. Go listen to their old cd and then listen to their new one. It's the same pop Shit.

[SoCofreak]

im selling in

[blaarg]

Originally posted by zach
selling out is comprimising or changing your morals to make money

[ant!flagpunk579]

who cares if a band sells out or not. its not a decision i would make but it shouldnt affect whether you like a band or not.

[ant!flagpunk579]

oh ya keep in mind that bad religion has been on the radio a couple times.

[blaarg]

Originally posted by ant!flagpunk579
who cares if a band sells out or not. its not a decision i would make but it shouldnt affect whether you like a band or not.
when a band sells out, it's like a big "fuck you" to their fans. their style usually changes (for the worse) when a band sells out.

[MaybeOneDay]

Originally posted by risk
is it when a band changes cause their record company tells them to or is it when a band cares more about themselves than the music or is it just going on MTV?


serously im curious everyone gets all crazy when a band shows up on MTV or changes their sound to a little more poppy or little more hardcore or whatever...

what does it matter to you the bands work hard for what they get and if you dont like that i dont see why youd have to whine about how "you see a little teeny bopper" at a show or something....

to me selling out is when a band refuse to meet with the fans or sign an autograph or somethin like that..


yeah i no someones gona be like "y do we always have to bring up stuff about sell outs yadda yadda" im not calling anyone sell out or anything im just wonderin why everyone cares so much.

define "your gay"

[ant!flagpunk579]

its the bands decision to make, im sure that when a band starts they know whether they want to go mainstream or not. dont give bands shit for living out their dreams.

[Fobika!]

Originally posted by ant!flagpunk579
its the bands decision to make, im sure that when a band starts they know whether they want to go mainstream or not. dont give bands shit for living out their dreams.

true dat

[Allisun]

selling out - when we all start talking shit about the band for whatever reason (being on MTV, changing music, ect..)

[AtTheDriveIn.]

Originally posted by risk
is it when a band changes cause their record company tells them to or is it when a band cares more about themselves than the music or is it just going on MTV?


serously im curious everyone gets all crazy when a band shows up on MTV or changes their sound to a little more poppy or little more hardcore or whatever...

what does it matter to you the bands work hard for what they get and if you dont like that i dont see why youd have to whine about how "you see a little teeny bopper" at a show or something....

to me selling out is when a band refuse to meet with the fans or sign an autograph or somethin like that..




yeah i no someones gona be like "y do we always have to bring up stuff about sell outs yadda yadda" im not calling anyone sell out or anything im just wonderin why everyone cares so much.

define "im gay"

[blaarg]

Originally posted by ant!flagpunk579
its the bands decision to make, im sure that when a band starts they know whether they want to go mainstream or not. dont give bands shit for living out their dreams.
in instances when the band intends to "sell out" from the start and are in the band for monetary causes from the start, they didn't sell out because they were never were a part of anything to sell out from, they would just be considerred buisnessmen rather than artists or musicians.

[MaybeOneDay]

Originally posted by AtTheDriveIn.
define "im gay"

COPIER!

[kidinthecorner]

Originally posted by yea !m a loser
well i looked it up in the dictionary and all i found was your picture

OOO SNAP!! No you di-'nt!!

[AtTheDriveIn.]

Originally posted by MaybeOneDay25
COPIER!

oh, haha i didnt see yours. and you said "youre gay" while i said "im gay". clearly theres a difference.

and yea, i know my pictures in the dictionary next to gay, i sent it in to the webster company in hopes that theyd publish my face in the next edition of dictionaries.

[MaybeOneDay]

Originally posted by AtTheDriveIn.
oh, haha i didnt see yours. and you said "youre gay" while i said "im gay". clearly theres a difference.

and yea, i know my pictures in the dictionary next to gay, i sent it in to the webster company in hopes that theyd publish my face in the next edition of dictionaries.

thats pretty weird that we'd say the same type thing though, damn aliens.

[ms y o o n]

selling out..
hmm thats a hard one
i think its when you TOTALLY... change... everything to please every possible person out there.
and also when suddenly your favourite band..... supposedly "sold out" you go and are like THEY SOLD OUT THEY SUCK!
untrue fans sell out a lot

[AntiCrombie57]

Originally posted by zach
selling out is comprimising or changing your morals to make money

[colorlesscliche]

:-0

[romantic rights]

the record company is gonna give me lots of money and everythings gonna be alright.

[Fullcollapse3k]

Define selling out?

Jay-Z.

[Love As Arson]

Selling out is when bands that had a small audience become popular and they are unable to rationalise why it is that the band that was once so personal to them is now having their concerts frequented by their younger sisters.

[apoemtothedead]

define "your gay"
Wow, even back then Brandon sucked at using homophones.

[punklet2101]

hahaha that's old school

[melvicious]

lame

[WastedN'Wounded]

You can't decide if you get on the radio. If they want to play you, by law they can. Hence NOFX making a note of it in the CD art. Hoping to detur them.

Selling out is when you talk a good game at one thing, and do a total 180, contradicting yourself only to gain a little more.

"..We will never do a show for over eight-bucks !!.." Tim Armstrong, 1993.

[FinchBulldog2]

Music is a business that allows the artist to love what they do. There is no selling out.

[johnh5304]

Hinder

[WastedN'Wounded]

Music is a business that allows the artist to love what they do. There is no selling out.


Who lied to you...

[OveriseFan]

There's no such thing as selling out.

[colorlesscliche]

Selling out; let's say you have 102 Nintendo Wii's, and there's 103 people waiting in line for them. You tell the 103rd person, "Sorry, we sold out."

[notoaststereo]

sell out, with me, oh yeah,
sell out, with me tonight

[matt_rawlings]

selling out is comprimising or changing your morals to make money

Correct.

Also when you radically change your sound for reasons other than artistic evolution or personal growth

[IAPAI]

well two years ago they were somewhat underground, but they are trying to sell their "punk" image

what the FUCK are you talking about? I saw that band like 5 years ago and they sounded the exact same then as they do now. They haven't changed at all, except that they got famous and make money doing what they've always done.

[WastedN'Wounded]

Its not always about money. Some do a 180 to get on a certain label, or to gain popularity. AFI did that early on with the "hardcore" rhetoric was the trend at the time. So after they had swindled up enough support, they can move up to a major as they always planned and turn into Queensriech. Though not before Hot Topic were selling dolls on the members, and have them model some punk-gear on the website. Say.. weren't the Cro-Mags gonna have dolls made for the reunion..? Though i saw it on Buddybitch.com

[morte]

Its not always about money. Some do a 180 to get on a certain label, or to gain popularity. AFI did that early on with the "hardcore" rhetoric was the trend at the time. So after they had swindled up enough support, they can move up to a major as they always planned and turn into Queensriech. Though not before Hot Topic were selling dolls on the members, and have them model some punk-gear on the website. Say.. weren't the Cro-Mags gonna have dolls made for the reunion..? Though i saw it on Buddybitch.comAFI is just responsible of writing amazing music.

[whiteboypain]

Fall Out Boy being on the show, one tree Hill. Fall Out Boy doing gap adds in Rolling Stone Magazine.

[ThisIsNotDan]

sugar ray
smash mouth
no doubt

the three most obvious examples

[WastedN'Wounded]

sugar ray
smash mouth
no doubt

the three most obvious examples


Are we even talking about "punk" bands selling out..? I mean , i dont think sugar ray was a band for any other reason

[WastedN'Wounded]

AFI is just responsible of writing amazing music.

Being a newer fan of theirs, You didnt see the other version.

[Alex Djaferis]

sell out, with me, oh yeah,
sell out, with me tonight

beat me to it.

[KillMeTheKing26]

selling out - making career moves to positively benefit your financial status by making changes to your appearence, or sound by the influence of a higher power, such as a record label.

[Talib Scottie]

a change in image to sell more records is a way of selling out.

[WastedN'Wounded]

that should confirm the truth about AFI. even with the other facts put aside.

[Juliana101]

If you were in a position to make music and make money at the same time, would you turn it down?

[KillMeTheKing26]

If you were in a position to make music and make money at the same time, would you turn it down?

thats entirely different.

for example: bands that go major label.

people on this website call that selling out. no. they have to make a living too.

[mcm1610]

Yea, if you can get to a major label by doing what you always do, more power to you. That in itself does not entail selling out.

[Juliana101]

My whole deal with "selling out" is when people say they changed their sound to make money. That's bullshit, what if they changed their sound for the sake of changing their sound? Why aren't they allowed to try new things?

[nfggc10]

My whole deal with "selling out" is when people say they changed their sound to make money. That's bullshit, what if they changed their sound for the sake of changing their sound? Why aren't they allowed to try new things?
agreed. the changing sound argument needs proof that a band specifically altered their image/sound with the intention of getting more fame and money. It's more about pushing aside who they really are as artists and adopting a new sound/image to cater to the "mainstream vision."

[ThisIsNotDan]

Are we even talking about "punk" bands selling out..? I mean , i dont think sugar ray was a band for any other reason

their first two cds (yes, one of them had fly) were actually punk/rap-metal

[nfggc10]

their first two cds (yes, one of them had fly) were actually punk/rap-metalyeah that was a shock when i first heard that song, couldn't believe it was actually sugar ray. incubus also changed their sound a lot also and many die hard fans gave up on them with morning view.

[ThisIsNotDan]

yeah that was a shock when i first heard that song, couldn't believe it was actually sugar ray. incubus also changed their sound a lot also and many die hard fans gave up on them with morning view.

but incubus didn't really sell out. they ventured a little into commercial territory with make yourself, but since then they gradually started to mold and experiment with their sound into the one they have now

[WastedN'Wounded]

If you were in a position to make music and make money at the same time, would you turn it down?

Did Fugazi..?

[WastedN'Wounded]

their first two cds (yes, one of them had fly) were actually punk/rap-metal


Hmm.. i saw them a few times opening for bands at clubs in L.A. going back to when they were the Shrinky Dinks. I would never say they were ever a punk band, and that's fine. They were a commercial band that just hadn't hit yet. Then they did. I don't disrespect them , or Incubus or Green Day or other bands that werent lying to they're following in hopes to move up. It's not an unknown thing to happen.

Be who you are, not bullshit your audience selling them the myth of something else. I only pointed out AFI because they are the perfect example of that. Preaching about a scene, hardcore unity and other fairy-tales. Hence there are not many fans from ten years ago that still like them now. They figured out they'd been had. Also yes, bands can change styles without doing that. The Clash seemed to be just as great playing whatever they liked.

[EnderDove]

When a band or artist change their style of music, lyrics or the way they look simply to gain more money. There's nothing wrong with changing and evolving as time goes on, but there some cases when you can tell it has been done for an obvious reason.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

[High_as_a_Kite]

Hinder
My point exactly...

[FeynmanWannabe]

Anyone that sells over 100K is a sell-out imo.

[Coronary Parasite]

When a band or artist change their style of music, lyrics or the way they look simply to gain more money. There's nothing wrong with changing and evolving as time goes on, but there some cases when you can tell it has been done for an obvious reason.

I think that pretty much sums it up.
...

[takeweakme]

No they were never at an underground level of any sort.
Selling out is straying from your roots in search of money and fame.

agreed. same with simple plan. sure, they suck..but that doesn't mean they're sell outs. they were always on huge tours from the start and always had good marketing.

if your record label is good at marketing you, it doesn't make you a sell out.
if you go on mtv, you aren't a sell out.
when you sign to a major label, it's not being a sell out.
everyone wants to make money, it's just how you go about it.

people use that term to describe any band that isn't hard enough or cool enough for them.
but i agree that it's not caring about the fans and being a complete asshole, not making decisions about the music but looking for the dollars instead.

[takeweakme]

Anyone that sells over 100K is a sell-out imo.

why? because people like the music?
that's what music is meant for, people to enjoy and listen to.

[buysoap]

why? because people like the music?
that's what music is meant for, people to enjoy and listen to.
No you're wrong

[snowtires]

http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/millivanilli1.jpg

[chaoticXpunk]

why? because people like the music?
that's what music is meant for, people to enjoy and listen to.
He's being facetious.

[takeweakme]

No you're wrong

people write music for themselves, yes. but..
when you sign to a record label and start distributing your music, why wouldn't you want people to like it?

[buysoap]

people write music for themselves, yes. but..
when you sign to a record label and start distributing your music, why wouldn't you want people to like it?
You're wrong!

[Shaved Goat]

I'd sell out for $10 and a handjob

[FeynmanWannabe]

He's being facetious.
That's exactly what I was going to say.

[sweet tragedy]

He's being facetious.

He's being feces-ish :-D

[chaoticXpunk]

That's exactly what I was going to say.
Twinz!
He's being feces-ish :-D
Hahahaha. Oh my.

[buysoap]

I'd sell out for $10 and a handjob
George Lowe?

[takeweakme]

You're wrong!

you should be using the pictures. i'm disapointed.

[Shaved Goat]

George Lowe?

icgIm99YQsU

[buysoap]

you should be using the pictures. i'm disapointed.
You don't get to tell me what to do. I have 18,832 more posts than you.

Plus, what do I look like, some kind of sell out?

[buysoap]

icgIm99YQsU
........I thought we were making ATHF references..........

[takeweakme]

You don't get to tell me what to do. I have 18,832 more posts than you.

Plus, what do I look like, some kind of sell out?

yes.

[Shaved Goat]

........I thought we were making ATHF references..........

TILT YOUR HEAD BACK

[buysoap]

TILT YOUR HEAD BACK
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[Shaved Goat]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Athfantenna1.JPG


I love that episode. Probably because I love every episode. ALSO, it would have been $40 or a handjob if i was quoting Aqua Teen.

[buysoap]

I love that episode. Probably because I love every episode. ALSO, it would have been $40 or a handjob if i was quoting Aqua Teen.
:shrug: I saw money and handjobs and thought of George Lowe. Sue me.

[Shaved Goat]

:shrug: I saw money and handjobs and thought of George Lowe. Sue me.

You're goin down. To china town.

[falloutboy.]

Anyone that sells over 100K is a sell-out imo.
are you serious?

[This_Is_The_End]

when bands do it for the money obviously

[FeynmanWannabe]

are you serious?
110% serious.

[FstFtsVsFences]

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