New Thread for myself and Neph

[BrandNewRock05]

Ok, since the other forums are spread out and hard to jump back and forth to and check info, here is where you will tell me what you missunderstood from me, and vice versa.

[The Nephilm]

God where do I even begin???

First off, the initial argument that we had was over you claiming that the US created a democracy in Germany and Japan, which was a blatant lie.



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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Did we take over cuba, no. Did we take over Korea, not entirely. Did we take over Germany, yes. Are we allies and partners in trade, yes. Did we take over Japan, yes. Are we allies and partners in trade, yes. Did we install new democracies in their countries, yes. Are they doing fine, yes. Enough said.
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Your buddy, Stamin agreed with this logic, because he too didn't know what he was talking about


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Originally posted by WithStamin
He makes a good point in that the majority of democracies we have installed are strong and sucsessful. BrandNew seems to know based on the intellligence of your posts.
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When I questioned him about this he responded...


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Originally posted by WithStamin
What do you mean we didn't make Germany democratic?? They are democratic. Korea is only half communist. Japan is a thriving democracy.
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Then you continued to contradict yourself in these two posts


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
After world war 1, Germany was a democracy, you're right.
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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
The US occupied W. Germany. We installed a democracy. We then let them do their own thing. We did stay in Germany to check that they were doing ok. We installed the democracy, they ran it.
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So let me get this straight. Germany was a democracy before and after WWI, and then after WWII we installed... A DEMOCRACY???
This already proved that you didn't know that germany was a democracy, but this next post astounded me even more.


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
we didnt suck their resources and they started ww1 for the most part
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It is well known that the US blamed germany for WWI and the reparations severly fucked the german economy. And on top of that, Austria-Hungry started the war. For someone taking a class on the subject, that is a pretty obvious error.


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
We did create a democracy in germany after both WW1 AND 2. You ever hear of the treaty of versailles? yeah. this punished germany for their war crimes in ww1, and then the us instated a democracy in germany. this treaty may have caused ww2, because germans hated the new democracy and the treaty of versailles. the democracy didnt work because the us didnt hang around after the fact. however after ww2 we instated ANOTHER democracy, this one is still in existance TODAY. You read a book
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Again in this post you contradict your previous statement acknowledging that Germany was a democracy before WWI. What the fuck are you talking about??

And do I need to bring up the fact that you think the Panama canal (which only recently has been in control of the Panama government) helped their country in any way?


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
panama is far better off since we built the canal there, thats one of their largest sources of income
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And as for the debate on weather or not Hitler was democratically elected, like I said, let me just leave YOUR OWN WORDS TO ANSWER


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Thank you.
Nazi Germany was just as democratic as Iraq is today. Sure you vote, but its just a formality so the world thinks you are doing your job.
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So they VOTED which makes them a DEMOCRACY like I said. It doesn't matter if they were forced to vote a certain way, THEY WERE STILL A DEMOCRACY.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
God where do I even begin???

First off, the initial argument that we had was over you claiming that the US created a democracy in Germany and Japan, which was a blatant lie.



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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Did we take over cuba, no. Did we take over Korea, not entirely. Did we take over Germany, yes. Are we allies and partners in trade, yes. Did we take over Japan, yes. Are we allies and partners in trade, yes. Did we install new democracies in their countries, yes. Are they doing fine, yes. Enough said.
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Your buddy, Stamin agreed with this logic, because he too didn't know what he was talking about


quote:
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Originally posted by WithStamin
He makes a good point in that the majority of democracies we have installed are strong and sucsessful. BrandNew seems to know based on the intellligence of your posts.
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When I questioned him about this he responded...


quote:
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Originally posted by WithStamin
What do you mean we didn't make Germany democratic?? They are democratic. Korea is only half communist. Japan is a thriving democracy.
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Then you continued to contradict yourself in these two posts


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
After world war 1, Germany was a democracy, you're right.
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quote:
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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
The US occupied W. Germany. We installed a democracy. We then let them do their own thing. We did stay in Germany to check that they were doing ok. We installed the democracy, they ran it.
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So let me get this straight. Germany was a democracy before and after WWI, and then after WWII we installed... A DEMOCRACY???
This already proved that you didn't know that germany was a democracy, but this next post astounded me even more.


quote:
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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
we didnt suck their resources and they started ww1 for the most part
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It is well known that the US blamed germany for WWI and the reparations severly fucked the german economy. And on top of that, Austria-Hungry started the war. For someone taking a class on the subject, that is a pretty obvious error.


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
We did create a democracy in germany after both WW1 AND 2. You ever hear of the treaty of versailles? yeah. this punished germany for their war crimes in ww1, and then the us instated a democracy in germany. this treaty may have caused ww2, because germans hated the new democracy and the treaty of versailles. the democracy didnt work because the us didnt hang around after the fact. however after ww2 we instated ANOTHER democracy, this one is still in existance TODAY. You read a book
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Again in this post you contradict your previous statement acknowledging that Germany was a democracy before WWI. What the fuck are you talking about??

And do I need to bring up the fact that you think the Panama canal (which only recently has been in control of the Panama government) helped their country in any way?


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
panama is far better off since we built the canal there, thats one of their largest sources of income
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And as for the debate on weather or not Hitler was democratically elected, like I said, let me just leave YOUR OWN WORDS TO ANSWER


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Thank you.
Nazi Germany was just as democratic as Iraq is today. Sure you vote, but its just a formality so the world thinks you are doing your job.
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So they VOTED which makes them a DEMOCRACY like I said. It doesn't matter if they were forced to vote a certain way, THEY WERE STILL A DEMOCRACY.
Lets do one thing at a time

[WithStamin]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
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Originally posted by WithStamin
What do you mean we didn't make Germany democratic?? They are democratic. Korea is only half communist. Japan is a thriving democracy.
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Then you continued to contradict yourself in these two posts


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Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
After world war 1, Germany was a democracy, you're right.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Germany was democratic after WWI. As soon as Hitler became a dictator, it ceased to be a democracy. Therefore, we installed a democracy where there was no longer a democracy.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by WithStamin
Germany was democratic after WWI. As soon as Hitler became a dictator, it ceased to be a democracy. Therefore, we installed a democracy where there was no longer a democracy.
Thank you, someone understands

[kidinthecorner]

Plus there are Democracies and "Democracies". Is Iraq a democracy? They vote for who's in charge, don't they...?

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by kidinthecorner
Plus there are Democracies and "Democracies". Is Iraq a democracy? They vote for who's in charge, don't they...?
Yeah they are a "democracy" like I said earlier, Neph. Its either Saddam or Die. No wonder he took nearly 100% of the votes

[kidinthecorner]

Originally posted by dep_rules
actually he did take all 100% of the votes.
True dat