Glaus to the Bluejays?

[Emopunkthrice]

The Arizona Diamondbacks and the Toronto Blue Jays are on the verge of completing a trade that would send Troy Glaus and a prospect to Toronto in exchange for pitcher Miguel Batista and second baseman Orlando Hudson, a person familiar with the talks told ESPN's Peter Gammons.

Arizona signed Glaus to a four-year, $45 million contract last offseason, but the Diamondbacks reportedly would like to free up money and the third baseman has been mentioned in trade talk throughout this offseason.

A trade also would free up Arizona's logjam at the corner positions. Chad Tracy could move from first base to third base, while Tony Clark and Conor Jackson, one of the organization's top prospects, could split time at first base.

The Blue Jays have made major upgrades to their roster this offseason, signing A.J. Burnett (five years, $55 million) and closer B.J. Ryan (five years, $47 million) for the pitching staff and trading for first baseman Lyle Overbay.

Glaus hit .257 with 37 homers and 97 RBI last season. Because of injury -- Glaus totaled only 34 home runs in both the 2003 and 2004 season -- he was limited to 58 games in '04 because of shoulder surgery, but last season Glaus appeared in 147 games, his most since his World Series MVP season of 2002.

As long as he stays healthy, Glaus is a bone fide 30-homer threat, having hit a career-high 47 in 2000, his third year in the majors.

Batista became expendable with the signing of Ryan. Toronto's full-time closer last season, Batista saved 31 games while going 5-8 with a 4.10 ERA.

Hudson, who turned 28 earlier this month, batted .271 in 131 games, with 10 home runs and a career-high 63 RBI.

[weezer182]

wow... id love to see toronto win the the american league east

[Broken Parachute]

I like Orlando Hudson. He should be able to help out Anaheim.

I never liked Glaus much, but he'll be good help for the Blue Jays. Especially since they're having a pretty good offseason.

[Broken Parachute]

wow... id love to see toronto win the the american league east

That's certainly a possibility. And I wouldn't mind the Yankees taking a back seat to Toronto. :)

[weezer182]

That's certainly a possibility. And I wouldn't mind the Yankees taking a back seat to Toronto. :)it would be a wonderful sight to see

[LeftWideOpen]

I like Orlando Hudson. He should be able to help out Anaheim.

I never liked Glaus much, but he'll be good help for the Blue Jays. Especially since they're having a pretty good offseason.

the trade was with arizona ..glaus left anaheim last year. i dont to mean to be a douche though, sorry!

anyway ..i'm a little worried as a sox fan. the blue jays really stepped it up this offseason, and with the way the rosters are *right now*, I see the Sox in 3rd behind New York and Toronto.

....we're far from done though.

[tpen892004]

lets go jays

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Glaus has a no-trade clause to the blue jays....supposedly. Sources close to Arizona have been saying the sox have it. I really cannot see how the Jays need another corner IF. If they got Glaus they would have 4-5 corner IF.

If they want pitching and a second baseman, the Sox could step up with either Graff or Loretta..or Youk. They need to get this done. Im not worried yet, but im pretty close to getting there.

[Broken Parachute]

the trade was with arizona ..glaus left anaheim last year. i dont to mean to be a douche though, sorry!

anyway ..i'm a little worried as a sox fan. the blue jays really stepped it up this offseason, and with the way the rosters are *right now*, I see the Sox in 3rd behind New York and Toronto.

....we're far from done though.

There I go again. You're not a douche, I'm just an ass. I post things too quickly and don't even realize I have stats wrong. I should check all my posts over 40000 times. It even said it in the first post. I'm just so used to seeing him on the Angels, I totally forgot he played with Arizona.

[Emopunkthrice]

Glaus undergoes physical in Toronto

PHOENIX -- The Blue Jays and Diamondbacks are expected to announce on Tuesday that they've completed a deal that would send third baseman Troy Glaus and prospect Sergio Santos to Toronto and pitcher Miguel Batista and second baseman Orlando Hudson to Arizona.

The two teams reached an agreement on the deal last Thursday, but the holiday weekend delayed the medical clearance part of the transaction. Glaus was in Toronto on Monday for his physical and is expected to remain there overnight for a press conference on Tuesday.

In Glaus, the Blue Jays are getting a powerful bat. The 29-year-old, who signed a four-year, $45 million contract prior to last season, hit 37 homers and drove in 97 runs despite being dogged throughout the year with a strained tendon behind his left knee. He took three cortisone shots to help alleviate the problem, but Arizona team physician Michael Lee said at the time that only 4-6 weeks of rest would help.

With the Diamondbacks in the hunt for the top spot in the National League West, Glaus continued to play throughout the season before resting the knee in October. When the Diamondbacks signed Glaus, there was some concern about his right shoulder. A partial tear in his rotator cuff limited his playing time in 2003 and 2004, but did not cause any problems for him in 2005.

The 37 homers was the second highest among big league third baseman last year behind only Alex Rodriguez, who hit 48. It marked the fourth time in his career that he's hit 30 or more homers.

The Diamondbacks had recently looked to deal Glaus to help alleviate a logjam at the corner infield and outfield positions. With Glaus' departure, Chad Tracy is expected to move back to third base with Shawn Green returning to right field. That opens up a spot for Conor Jackson, one of the club's top prospects, at first base.

Hudson won a Gold Glove last year, leading American League second sackers in range factor (5.84) and fielding percentage (.991). The 28-year-old hit .271 with 25 doubles, five triples, 10 homers and 63 RBIs. He was expendable thanks to the presence of Aaron Hill.

With the money saved in the deal -- Hudson made $365,000 last year and is salary arbitration eligible while Batista will make $4.75 million in the final year of his deal -- the Diamondbacks have the flexibility to add some salary if they choose, either by signing a free agent or via a trade.

Craig Counsell will move to shortstop to start the season and gives Arizona a valuable trading chip in infielder Alex Cintron, who could be dealt to help the team fill its hole in center field or add depth to its pitching staff. Counsell would likely move to a super utility role when top prospect Stephen Drew is deemed ready to play in the Majors.

Batista is no stranger to the Diamondbacks, having played for them from 2001 through 2003 before signing as a free agent with the Jays. The versatile right-hander spent time both as a starter and reliever during his stint in the desert and originally was a starter in Toronto before becoming the club's closer last year.

The 34-year-old saved 31 games for Toronto last year in 39 opportunities. It was a tale of two halves for him as he converted 15 of his first 17 chances and had a 2.97 ERA in the first half and converted just 16 of 22 in the second half with a 5.35 ERA. His best season in Arizona came in 2001, when he was 11-8 with a 3.36 ERA for the World Series champs.

With Jose Valverde entrenched as the club's closer, the Diamondbacks will use Batista as a starter. He joins a rotation that also includes newly acquired Orlando Hernandez, plus holdovers Brandon Webb and Brad Halsey.

Santos, who just two years ago was ranked by Baseball America as the organization's top prospect, was drafted out of high school by the Diamondbacks with their first pick in the 2002 draft. The 22-year-old had a steady rise through the system before stumbling a bit last year for Triple-A Tucson when he hit just .239 with 12 homers and 68 RBIs.

At 6-foot-2, 239 pounds, Santos is big for a shortstop, which has prompted speculation that he would eventually need to switch, but the Diamondbacks have been impressed with the way he's played at short. He became expendable, however, when the club drafted shortstops with its first-round pick in each of the past two drafts. Drew, selected in 2004, is thought to be just about ready for the big leagues and the team drafted high school shortstop Justin Upton with the No. 1 overall pick last year. Upton has yet to sign, but the D-Backs are optimistic that they will reach a deal with him.

[bigmike]

well it's nice to see that toronto is loading up on old, unreliable health, corner infielders and putting tons of money into a pitcher that is closer to being a Carl Pavano (who didn't pitch well enough when he was healthy for his pricetag) than he is to being a Clemens in a blue jays uniform. This makes 4 different guys that are all originally 3rd basemen: Koskie, Glaus, Hillenbrand, Hinske.

Really, the only plausible, sensical thing they've done is BJ Ryan who has at least put up two straight years of solid numbers instead of showing signs of dominance.

Right now, it's still Yankess/Sox or Sox/Yankees, on top and Toronto's still 3rd.

And, not to mention the fact that they gave up Orlando Hudson, who was one of the best second basemen last year in the majors. with his range, arm, and offense they gave up in Hudson alone, i don't think it's worth the trade on an injury plagued third baseman, who is basically and older version of Eric Hinske. Then you throw in Miguel batista who you could make a case for as the Blue Jays best pitcher last year, and his versitility of being able to pitch from the 'pen or start makes him much more valuable than his talent. I think Toronto made a horrible trade.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

I had just typed a big ol paragraph on the issue until I hit backspace and instead of deleting a letter, the page went back like I had hit the back button....sucks.

summary: bigmike is dead on. Glaus is the only player the Jays have gotten that scares me. Everyone is either doesn't, or is a risk (for lots of money too). The Sox can then use the chips they saved and trade for upgrades in Center and Short. No point in getting another corner infielder. If they can sign another pitcher (Clemens!), they have three who are expendable; Arroyo, Wells, and Clement. Those three can bring back talent that will make the media shut up about 3rd place. The Jays were behind us by 15 games. Thats 15 games without Schilling, Foulke, or any kind of pitching. We can be sure to see upgrades at second (Loretta), first (Youkilis), and maybe short (Lugo, Tejada!!!). If Lowell comes through he will equal Mueller. This Red Sox team will surprise people.

sorry for making everything about the sox. the Jays have done a great job getting the players they feel they need to make a run. I just cant see it happening....

[mikeford]

born to place 3rd.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Jays or Sox? Right now, Jays get second, but this offseason has daylight left. We have moves to be made, and they will be made. If not 06, we will win this division in 07.

[mikeford]

the jays aint finishin no 2nd place. theyre the jays
never forget that.

[bigmike]

the jays aint finishin no 2nd place. theyre the jays
never forget that.

and, they really haven't solidified any weaknesses from last year. and have some how managed to become worse defensively up the middle.

it's still yankees/boston, or boston/yankees at the top.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

the jays aint finishin no 2nd place. theyre the jays
never forget that.
lol, just clarifying.

[BuriedAlive]

well it's nice to see that toronto is loading up on old, unreliable health, corner infielders and putting tons of money into a pitcher that is closer to being a Carl Pavano (who didn't pitch well enough when he was healthy for his pricetag) than he is to being a Clemens in a blue jays uniform. This makes 4 different guys that are all originally 3rd basemen: Koskie, Glaus, Hillenbrand, Hinske.

Really, the only plausible, sensical thing they've done is BJ Ryan who has at least put up two straight years of solid numbers instead of showing signs of dominance.

Right now, it's still Yankess/Sox or Sox/Yankees, on top and Toronto's still 3rd.

And, not to mention the fact that they gave up Orlando Hudson, who was one of the best second basemen last year in the majors. with his range, arm, and offense they gave up in Hudson alone, i don't think it's worth the trade on an injury plagued third baseman, who is basically and older version of Eric Hinske. Then you throw in Miguel batista who you could make a case for as the Blue Jays best pitcher last year, and his versitility of being able to pitch from the 'pen or start makes him much more valuable than his talent. I think Toronto made a horrible trade.
Hudson won a Gold Glove this year (last year). I agree. Toronto is making a stupid trade. Glaus hasn't had a good season since... well, 2002? Glaus did however win comeback player of the year hitting .226 (AVG) or so. I guess I see why they want him.

[mikeford]

troy glaus sucks they shoulda got tim salmon

[bigmike]

Hudson won a Gold Glove this year (last year). I agree. Toronto is making a stupid trade. Glaus hasn't had a good season since... well, 2002? Glaus did however win comeback player of the year hitting .226 (AVG) or so. I guess I see why they want him.

um, I don't think he's won Comeback Player of the Year...

I know Griffey won it last year in the NL (same league Glaus played in) and Richie Sexson won it in the AL.

And Glaus had a good power year last year. 37 HRs/97 RBIs.

However, is health is suspect, he doesn't have good range anymore and Russ Adams, the starting shortstop made 26 errors last year which was second most in the majors behind renteria.

It doesn't bode well for their whole infield if Glaus is playing third, adams at short, no orlando hudson at second and one of the 4 thirdbasemen playing firstbase that they have (hillenbrand, hinske, glaus, koskie).

Ridiculous trade.

[BuriedAlive]

um, I don't think he's won Comeback Player of the Year...

I know Griffey won it last year in the NL (same league Glaus played in) and Richie Sexson won it in the AL.

And Glaus had a good power year last year. 37 HRs/97 RBIs.

However, is health is suspect, he doesn't have good range anymore and Russ Adams, the starting shortstop made 26 errors last year which was second most in the majors behind renteria.

It doesn't bode well for their whole infield if Glaus is playing third, adams at short, no orlando hudson at second and one of the 4 thirdbasemen playing firstbase that they have (hillenbrand, hinske, glaus, koskie).

Ridiculous trade.
oops. He was a candidate for it i suppose. I forgot bout Griffey. He must have been runner up heh.

[LeftWideOpen]

Jays or Sox? Right now, Jays get second, but this offseason has daylight left. We have moves to be made, and they will be made. If not 06, we will win this division in 07.

agreed. I have the Blue Jays 2nd based on the rosters right now because: 1) The additions they made are still good, even if they overpaid 2) They already a solid team in place that they've built upon.

If Roy Halladay doesnt get hurt, they might even be a Wild Card team last season. I can see them winning 90 games next season, and with the way the Sox look right now I can't say that about them.

I don't think they're done though and I think the Sox will pull off something big because Lucchino's ass will be on the line if they don't.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Before you all judge on where the Blue Jays will finish this season in the AL East, consider this:

If (WHEN) the Glaus trade goes through, they will have 5 corner infielders: Troy Glaus (3B) , Lyle Overbay (1B) , Corey Koskie (3B), Eric Hinske (1B/DH) and Shea Hillenbrand (1B/3B/DH).

You know they have to make another move before this is all over with, especially because they're trading their Gold Glove 2nd baseman to Arizona....and you never know, that move may be one that puts them over the top?

[LeftWideOpen]

Before you all judge on where the Blue Jays will finish this season in the AL East, consider this:

If (WHEN) the Glaus trade goes through, they will have 5 corner infielders: Troy Glaus (3B) , Lyle Overbay (1B) , Corey Koskie (3B), Eric Hinske (1B/DH) and Shea Hillenbrand (1B/3B/DH).

You know they have to make another move before this is all over with, especially because they're trading their Gold Glove 2nd baseman to Arizona....and you never know, that move may be one that puts them over the top?

Hello Alfonso Soriano?

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Hello Alfonso Soriano?
Maybe hello Jose Vidro instead? The Nationals just traded for Soriano, I doubt they'd want to dump him already. And getting rid of Vidro would allow Soriano to play 2B for Washington, seeing as how he REFUSES to play the OF for them.

[LeftWideOpen]

Maybe hello Jose Vidro instead? The Nationals just traded for Soriano, I doubt they'd want to dump him already. And getting rid of Vidro would allow Soriano to play 2B for Washington, seeing as how he REFUSES to play the OF for them.

true. Vidro is more likely I'm sure. Either way, the Blue Jays couldnt go wrong.

[bigmike]

agreed. I have the Blue Jays 2nd based on the rosters right now because: 1) The additions they made are still good, even if they overpaid 2) They already a solid team in place that they've built upon.

If Roy Halladay doesnt get hurt, they might even be a Wild Card team last season. I can see them winning 90 games next season, and with the way the Sox look right now I can't say that about them.

I don't think they're done though and I think the Sox will pull off something big because Lucchino's ass will be on the line if they don't.

since when does a team finishing below .500 and 15 game back of SECOND place, qualify them as a "solid team"?

that seems to be more "medicore" than anything.


and jose vidro would be the first above average move to improve their ball club that they've made this year besides signing BJ Ryan.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

since when does a team finishing below .500 and 15 game back of SECOND place, qualify them as a "solid team"?

that seems to be more "medicore" than anything.


and jose vidro would be the first above average move to improve their ball club that they've made this year besides signing BJ Ryan.
Yeah, I mean, Troy Glaus is just an average player. :doof:

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

since when does a team finishing below .500 and 15 game back of SECOND place, qualify them as a "solid team"?

that seems to be more "medicore" than anything.


and jose vidro would be the first above average move to improve their ball club that they've made this year besides signing BJ Ryan.
Also, they finished at 80-82, but Roy Halladay only started 19 games for them. I don't know about you, but I'd take an almost .500 record when my team's ace pitcher spends most of the season injured....

They're going to be an above .500 team this year, if not a serious Wild Card contender. Look at their rotation:
1. Roy Halladay
2. AJ Burnett
3. Ted Lilly
4. Gustavo Chacin
5. Josh Towers

Now, besides Ted Lilly, I that's a pretty damn good rotation for a young team.

[bigmike]

Yeah, I mean, Troy Glaus is just an average player. :doof:

i'll give you that when he's healthy he can put up great power numbers.
but it makes no sense considering that his health is in question as of late, even after one good, full, healthy year.
Also, they already had 3 original 3rd basemen on the team in Koskie, Hillenbrand, and Hinske and barely had room for them all. Then they add Overbay to play first, which moves one of the three from first to a back up and/or DH and now Glaus is at 3rd. So they've got to unload someone.

AJ burnett, is still, afterall, a below .500 pitcher and much like Carl Pavano, get's big bucks for putting up good numbers for most of last season. And Pavano, who granted got hurt last season, didn't pitch well even when he was healthy.

All I had said about Glaus is that he's pushing 30, can't run well, doesn't have great range and led the majors last year in Errors. and you give up a gold glove 2nd baseman who was the best defensive 2nd baseman in the majors last year to get the worst (in terms of errors) in the majors at 3rd where you've already stockpiled 3rd basemen?

It doesn't make sense to me.

[bigmike]

Also, they finished at 80-82, but Roy Halladay only started 19 games for them. I don't know about you, but I'd take an almost .500 record when my team's ace pitcher spends most of the season injured....

They're going to be an above .500 team this year, if not a serious Wild Card contender. Look at their rotation:
1. Roy Halladay
2. AJ Burnett
3. Ted Lilly
4. Gustavo Chacin
5. Josh Towers

Now, besides Ted Lilly, I that's a pretty damn good rotation for a young team.

yes, they were 80-82 and Halladay missed a large chunk of the season. however, they were still 15 games behind the red sox.

And Burnett has health issues and struggles to be consistent.
Ted Lilly is a solid #3, however, he did have a 5.56 ERA which isn't great for a 3 starter.
Gustavo Chacin had an excellent rookie year. Now let's see if he can do it again. Sophomore slumps have happened before (ask Dontrelle Willis..)
And Josh Towers had his first good, solid season statistically, so he's still unknown on whether or not he can put back-to-back quality seasons together. He also threw 200 innings for the first time in his career, so it'll be interesting to see if he can stay healthy and strong for another 200 innings this year.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

They might have finished 15 games behind last year's Red Sox...but they'll probably be 15 games ahead of this year's Red Sox, even in it's Toronto in 3rd and Boston in 4th.

[bigmike]

They might have finished 15 games behind last year's Red Sox...but they'll probably be 15 games ahead of this year's Red Sox, even in it's Toronto in 3rd and Boston in 4th.

Ooooooh, I forgot that this year tampa bay is going to have a 30 win improvement and win the division.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Ooooooh, I forgot that this year tampa bay is going to have a 30 win improvement and win the division.
haha.

Yankees will win it again, unfortunately. Then there's going to be a dogfight below them.

[bigmike]

haha.

Yankees will win it again, unfortunately. Then there's going to be a dogfight below them.

it'll be
1. yankess/red sox or red sox/yankees
3. toronto
4. tampa bay.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

it'll be
1. yankess/red sox or red sox/yankees
3. toronto
4. tampa bay.
baltimore?

[bigmike]

baltimore?

haha, my fault. i knew it didn't look right.

1. yankees/red sox or red sox/yankees
3. toronto
4. balitmore
5. tampa bay.

there we go.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Something else to propel my little Vidro to Toronto idea:

"Nationals' Vidro won't give up position for Soriano" http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9118858

[bigmike]

Something else to propel my little Vidro to Toronto idea:

"Nationals' Vidro won't give up position for Soriano" http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9118858

I think that they NEED to go get vidro. they gave up too much in trading orlando hudson, defensively speaking. it seems like it'd make sense. washington needs to get rid of a second baseman, toronto need's one.

But vidro won't lift them to 2nd place, but it'd be the best move they've made so far.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I think that they NEED to go get vidro. they gave up too much in trading orlando hudson, defensively speaking. it seems like it'd make sense. washington needs to get rid of a second baseman, toronto need's one.

But vidro won't lift them to 2nd place, but it'd be the best move they've made so far.
The only problem with dumping Hillenbrand, Koskie or Hinske on the Nationals is the fact that they already have Ryan Zimmerman at 3rd and Nick Johnson at 1st. The question there would be are the Nationals happy with those guys there?

[bigmike]

The only problem with dumping Hillenbrand, Koskie or Hinske on the Nationals is the fact that they already have Ryan Zimmerman at 3rd and Nick Johnson at 1st. The question there would be are the Nationals happy with those guys there?

oh, i wasn't thinking necessarily one of those three, but they need to try and put together some sort of package that washington would like, and get jose vidro.

[BuriedAlive]

yes, they were 80-82 and Halladay missed a large chunk of the season. however, they were still 15 games behind the red sox.

And Burnett has health issues and struggles to be consistent.
Ted Lilly is a solid #3, however, he did have a 5.56 ERA which isn't great for a 3 starter.
Gustavo Chacin had an excellent rookie year. Now let's see if he can do it again. Sophomore slumps have happened before (ask Dontrelle Willis..)
And Josh Towers had his first good, solid season statistically, so he's still unknown on whether or not he can put back-to-back quality seasons together. He also threw 200 innings for the first time in his career, so it'll be interesting to see if he can stay healthy and strong for another 200 innings this year.
Hey, don't hate on Dontrelle Willis he was easily the best pitcher in the NL last year.. eff Chris Carpenter. He was pretty horrible in 2004. But he fixed his problems, unlike most.

Also, I could see Soriano heading out. He is a horrible fielder heh. I'd take Vidro's over Soriano if I could get back something to fill my holes (Vernon Wells and a pitcher) in my team. BUT. Vidro does seem more likely due to the fact he's 31 and his offensive numbers have been declining over the years. Soriano has more errors in the last 2 years as Vidro has the last 4. It's a give or take but I'd trade Soriano to fill the voids I need. Vidro will always play great defense. Surround him by more bats he could be pretty good. He still gets on base pretty well.

[bigmike]

Hey, don't hate on Dontrelle Willis he was easily the best pitcher in the NL last year.. eff Chris Carpenter. He was pretty horrible in 2004. But he fixed his problems, unlike most.

Also, I could see Soriano heading out. He is a horrible fielder heh. I'd take Vidro's over Soriano if I could get back something to fill my holes (Vernon Wells and a pitcher) in my team. BUT. Vidro does seem more likely due to the fact he's 31 and his offensive numbers have been declining over the years. Soriano has more errors in the last 2 years as Vidro has the last 4. It's a give or take but I'd trade Soriano to fill the voids I need. Vidro will always play great defense. Surround him by more bats he could be pretty good. He still gets on base pretty well.

if they trade vernon wells for soriano they're retarded. you don't trade your franchise player and a hell of an outfielder. I think he's the best CF in the AL.

And I take vidro over soriano if half my games are played at RFK as well. it's the fucking grand canyon there, and soriano won't reach his HR total for years past.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

They might have finished 15 games behind last year's Red Sox...but they'll probably be 15 games ahead of this year's Red Sox, even in it's Toronto in 3rd and Boston in 4th.
Thats absurd. Our offense is still going to be good without Damon, and our Pitching cannot get any worse than 05. Dog fight for the top 4 positions, Red Sox and Yankees coming out on top because they have more resources.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Do not trade for Soriano. He has a terrible OBP, and will suck in RFK. Let the Nationals suffer. Trade for Vidro or use Adams. Stay away from Soriano.

[bigmike]

Do not trade for Soriano. He has a terrible OBP, and will suck in RFK. Let the Nationals suffer. Trade for Vidro or use Adams. Stay away from Soriano.

Soriano won't be traded from washington. and he will suck in RFK, but really, if you pick up a soriano you're not expecting typical second baseman numbers. he's been 30/30 3 out of the last 4 years, which is special, especially with the lack of base stealing that most teams do.

You're definitely looking for his bat more than his defense if you aquire him. however, as a former shortstop (I think...) he's got good range from his speed and does have potential to be a decent to solid fielder if he'd work at it.

But his bat is more than just playing half his games in that ban box in texas, he hit 77 homeruns the last two years in NY compare to only 64 his two years in texas. He'll struggle to reach above 25 HRs I think, in Washington.

But if the Bluejays were trying to pick anyone up they should go for vidro, a solid, consistent, above average defensive 2nd baseman.

[rcrook]

never should have left anaheim we are stuck with dallas mcpherson and edgardo alfonzo...glaus must be concerned by playing toronto...two years ago he tore his knee up in toronto when he got his foot caught in the astro turf

[NetNerdsRevenge]

His best years were in 02, 03, and thats in NY. He only had 28 HR's in Texas in 04 and plays bad D for a middle infield player. Too much money. Stay away!

[bigmike]

His best years were in 02, 03, and thats in NY. He only had 28 HR's in Texas in 04 and plays bad D for a middle infield player. Too much money. Stay away!

his best season was 02 in NY but his second best season was last year. it's not like he fell off the face of the earth offensively in Texas. All he did was hit 64 HRs in two years, steal bases at almost an 88% clip, while only 76% in new york, was apart of 205 double plays in Texas, turning career highs in 04 and 05, drew the second most walks in back to back seasons of his career, and set a career high in RBI's last season.

In 04 he hit 28, but in 11 fewer games than any other season he had played in. He would have been 33+ that year had he played 155 games. And the next season was the 2nd best of his career, 36 HRs and 104 RBIs (career best).

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Texas is a launching pad. No surprise he hit well there. Stolen bases are a product of running teams. Moneyball would suggest that stealing is not very smart as you play with outs when you do it, and you only get 27. Being apart of 205 DP's? should I be shocked? UZR ratings from 2000-2003 (sorry I cannot find his 04, 05 ones) has him at -3. He drew 33 walks in 682 PA. No thank you.

Also, RBI's are a product of people getting on base before you. He benefited from a good texas offense.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

and his second best season was 03. He had a higher BA, OBP, Slg, more HR, and more walks. his OPS+ was 128 in 03 compared to 110 in 05.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

never should have left anaheim we are stuck with dallas mcpherson and edgardo alfonzo...glaus must be concerned by playing toronto...two years ago he tore his knee up in toronto when he got his foot caught in the astro turf
Glaus was concerned to play in Toronto, he had a no-trade clause on going to Toronto, but he waived it because there is a new playing surface in the Rogers Centre (no longer the Skydome). Astroturf is slowly being replaced by newer playing surfaces (such as Astroplay and FieldTurf) that are more grasslike and much more forgiving on the joints.

Speaking of FieldTurf, which is what the Blue Jays have, I never realized it was used in so many big stadiums. There's a list here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FieldTurf

[NetNerdsRevenge]

so that was his reason? uh...interesting...

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

so that was his reason? uh...interesting...
I doubt that was his reason (they've also been a shitty team) but I imagine he wouldn't have waived the clause to go play 91 games on Astroturf. I know I wouldn't.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

oh, I see what youre saying. JP must of done some good talking to this guy. If Glaus goes to the Sox, his chances of winning are much more than it would be with the Jays. Maybe money was involved...or maybe the Sox backed off because Youk can hold down first, which would allow them to use their resources for CF and SS.

[BuriedAlive]

oh, I see what youre saying. JP must of done some good talking to this guy. If Glaus goes to the Sox, his chances of winning are much more than it would be with the Jays. Maybe money was involved...or maybe the Sox backed off because Youk can hold down first, which would allow them to use their resources for CF and SS.
the Sox dont need another corner fielder either. Would have been stupid to trade for Glaus.

[BuriedAlive]

if they trade vernon wells for soriano they're retarded. you don't trade your franchise player and a hell of an outfielder. I think he's the best CF in the AL.

And I take vidro over soriano if half my games are played at RFK as well. it's the fucking grand canyon there, and soriano won't reach his HR total for years past.
They pulled a stupid trade anyway. I like Wells I definately think he's among the best OF's. But I could see it happening if they could get enough back in return. Alexis Rios can become something good too, needs more playing time (unless he started towards the end of year, dont follow them (toronto) much). Wells is a great player but if you can fill voids and lose a CF I'd take it.

[bigmike]

They pulled a stupid trade anyway. I like Wells I definately think he's among the best OF's. But I could see it happening if they could get enough back in return. Alexis Rios can become something good too, needs more playing time (unless he started towards the end of year, dont follow them (toronto) much). Wells is a great player but if you can fill voids and lose a CF I'd take it.

at some point tornonto has to keep a key power hitting player. they've let Shawn Green and Carlos Delgado get away, they need to keep Vernon Wells. If anything you try to maybe give up an Alex Rios if you have to. You don't trade your key player and still convince your fans that you're going to contend still.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

at some point tornonto has to keep a key power hitting player. they've let Shawn Green and Carlos Delgado get away, they need to keep Vernon Wells. If anything you try to maybe give up an Alex Rios if you have to. You don't trade your key player and still convince your fans that you're going to contend still.
Glaus is a pretty decent power hitter also.

[bigmike]

Glaus is a pretty decent power hitter also.

if he's healthy, yes.

however, wells is a better overall hitter (career: 285) than glaus (253)

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

if he's healthy, yes.

however, wells is a better overall hitter (career: 285) than glaus (253)
i'm interested to see if the Jays make another move to acquire a 2B and relieve their logjam at the corners.

it's weird how i'm taking interest in the Jays all of a sudden. maybe I just care because the only MLB team within a reasonable distance of here is Toronto. I could always root for the Yankees, because I'm from NY, but god damn I hate that team.

I have to thank the TBS network for broadcasting so many games every season. That's why I'm a Braves fan stuck in NY.

[bigmike]

i'm interested to see if the Jays make another move to acquire a 2B and relieve their logjam at the corners.

it's weird how i'm taking interest in the Jays all of a sudden. maybe I just care because the only MLB team within a reasonable distance of here is Toronto. I could always root for the Yankees, because I'm from NY, but god damn I hate that team.

I have to thank the TBS network for broadcasting so many games every season. That's why I'm a Braves fan stuck in NY.

yeah, i'm taking interest because it's one of the only teams making moves that don't reside in Boston, Baltimore, NY Yankees, or NY Mets.

and I'm a Braves fan because of TBS too. That and my dad got into them back in 1989 when they were terrible because Skip Caray is/was random and more entertaining than other broadcasters.

But before the braves, i love my horrible, horrible Tigers.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

yeah, i'm taking interest because it's one of the only teams making moves that don't reside in Boston, Baltimore, NY Yankees, or NY Mets.

and I'm a Braves fan because of TBS too. That and my dad got into them back in 1989 when they were terrible because Skip Caray is/was random and more entertaining than other broadcasters.

But before the braves, i love my horrible, horrible Tigers.
I love the Braves because for the longest time, besides ESPN, that was the only baseball that was on TV here. It's not like I love them because they've won the NL East every year since I started watching (I think I was 7 or so, so around 1995).

Skip Caray is pretty random. And on another note, I like all those technology updates TBS added to the broadcast this past season, that stuff was pretty cool to see.

[bigmike]

I love the Braves because for the longest time, besides ESPN, that was the only baseball that was on TV here. It's not like I love them because they've won the NL East every year since I started watching (I think I was 7 or so, so around 1995).

Skip Caray is pretty random. And on another note, I like all those technology updates TBS added to the broadcast this past season, that stuff was pretty cool to see.

yeah, they always do a good job with their broadcasts. and it's better 'cause I like Chip Caray. it was the reason I used to tune into some Cub broadcasts that I got. Well, when it was Chip and Steve Stone until that whole debacle of saying what the cubs problems were and being honest got them fired, but that's another whole subject.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

the Sox dont need another corner fielder either. Would have been stupid to trade for Glaus.
They could trade some of thier corner infielders (youk) to help fill other holes.

still glad youkilis will start in 06. he will shine.

[mikeford]

still glad youkilis will start in 06. he will shine.

not on defense... :shrugs:

[NetNerdsRevenge]

He will play a better first base than Millar would. I can see him around -5--+5 UZR at first.

His OBP is what will really help.

[BuriedAlive]

i'm interested to see if the Jays make another move to acquire a 2B and relieve their logjam at the corners.

it's weird how i'm taking interest in the Jays all of a sudden. maybe I just care because the only MLB team within a reasonable distance of here is Toronto. I could always root for the Yankees, because I'm from NY, but god damn I hate that team.

I have to thank the TBS network for broadcasting so many games every season. That's why I'm a Braves fan stuck in NY.
I heard Ted Turner is talking about selling TBS.