What exactly is a "manufactured band"?

[Curtis&BemisRok]

What is a manufactured band? People talk about them all the time but what exactly does this term mean and what are some examples of bands like this?

[oddwithoutend]

'Nsync

[CellarGhosts]

What they said.

Also, The Sex Pistols. If a band is "manufactured", it means exactly what it sounds like. They're put together by some other entity (a label; or in The Sex Pistols' case, their manager) in order to make money.

[DejaNew]

Taylor Swift

[pretty.odd]

hm i was wondering this myself, but i always hear people say this about MCR or Fall Out Boy, so is that not true?

[fiercetown]

Daughtry.

[ThisIsNotDan]

hm i was wondering this myself, but i always hear people say this about MCR or Fall Out Boy, so is that not true?

neither are true

[maxvsmaradona]

All American Rejects

[lonelysuperstar]

People just say it about generic sounding bands. But really, some of those generic sounding bands still had to build a fanbase like everybody else, so it's not always true. The only time you can really call someone a manufactured band is if someone just picks 4 guys and says "you're good looking kids - you can play emo pop".

[Troggy]

The Click Five, as embarrassingly short of success they came.

[Burn That Shit]

Swine Flu

[XSTAYGOLDX]

Paramore


not true.

metro station is one

[XSTAYGOLDX]

Paramore


not true.

metro station is one

[Burn That Shit]

Didn't Chris Fallon basically say that he knew people at FBR and that Paramore is indeed a manufactured band? I believe him.

[xJesusFreakx]

Swine Flu

This.

[thespearkid]

Didn't Chris Fallon basically say that he knew people at FBR and that Paramore is indeed a manufactured band? I believe him.
Yeah, because who needs reliable sources when you have Chris Fallon. I don't like Paramore and Chris Fallon is a cool dude but I'm pretty sure taking his word as fact without any further investigation is a little dumb.

Not making a call either way on paramore being manufactured though.

[Burn That Shit]

Yeah, because who needs reliable sources when you have Chris Fallon. I don't like Paramore and Chris Fallon is a cool dude but I'm pretty sure taking his word as fact without any further investigation is a little dumb.

Lolwhat.

I don't doubt Paramore are a manufactured band, look up all the producer co-writes they have. Not only that, but they formed as a band in 2004, and released a self titled in 2005 with full record label support. Things don't just happen like that. Needless to say, I'm not going to spend much time investigating a band that I don't give a shit about beyond going to wikipedia and reading what people say on ap.net. Chris Fallon articulated his arguement pretty well in that thread, and considering this is the kind of stuff he likes, I wouldn't doubt him.

[xJesusFreakx]

Lolwhat.

I don't doubt Paramore are a manufactured band, look up all the producer co-writes they have. Not only that, but they formed as a band in 2004, and released a self titled in 2005 with full record label support. Things don't just happen like that. Needless to say, I'm not going to spend much time investigating a band that I don't give a shit about beyond going to wikipedia and reading what people say on ap.net. Chris Fallon articulated his arguement pretty well in that thread, and considering this is the kind of stuff he likes, I wouldn't doubt him.

What thread? I kinda wanna read that now.

[thespearkid]

Lolwhat.

I don't doubt Paramore are a manufactured band, look up all the producer co-writes they have. Not only that, but they formed as a band in 2004, and released a self titled in 2005 with full record label support. Things don't just happen like that. Needless to say, I'm not going to spend much time investigating a band that I don't give a shit about beyond going to wikipedia and reading what people say on ap.net. Chris Fallon articulated his arguement pretty well in that thread, and considering this is the kind of stuff he likes, I wouldn't doubt him.
They only have three producer co-writes haha. That's not too bad and it all pretty much depends on the producer. Ask Max Bemis, he'll tell you that Tim O'Heir actually had a lot to do with the writing of IARB. Anyway, just because someone on the internet has a well-written argument doesn't mean they are right. I know it's a hard thing to do but try not to believe everything you read on the interwebz.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Northbrook

[UnderMyDreams]

What they said.

Also, The Sex Pistols. If a band is "manufactured", it means exactly what it sounds like. They're put together by some other entity (a label; or in The Sex Pistols' case, their manager) in order to make money.

whattt?

[Burn That Shit]

They only have three producer co-writes haha. That's not too bad and it all pretty much depends on the producer.

That doesn't make it any better, write your own music. Tons of bands make similar music to Paramore and they do it by themselves, don't see why they should be forgiven for producer co-writes even if it's just three, which I'm sure it's more.

Ask Max Bemis, he'll tell you that Tim O'Heir actually had a lot to do with the writing of IARB.

Max Bemis is an arrogant moron. I hope Tim Kinsella skull fucks him.

Anyway, just because someone on the internet has a well-written argument doesn't mean they are right. I know it's a hard thing to do but try not to believe everything you read on the interwebz.

Like I said, I'm not wasting any of my precious time on investigating Paramore, so if a highly regarded staff member starts making claims like "Paramore are a manufactured band", then I'll pretty much just take their word for it. Beyond that, Chris fallon pwns and I would follow him off a bridge.

[Burn That Shit]

What thread? I kinda wanna read that now.

It was the Paramore vs. some band poll thread, hold on I'll find it.

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=40692202&highlight=manufactured#post40692202
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=40776291&highlight=manufactured#post40776291

[thespearkid]

That doesn't make it any better, write your own music. Tons of bands make similar music to Paramore and they do it by themselves, don't see why they should be forgiven for producer co-writes even if it's just three, which I'm sure it's more.

Max Bemis is an arrogant moron. I hope Tim Kinsella skull fucks him.

Like I said, I'm not wasting any of my precious time on investigating Paramore, so if a highly regarded staff member starts making claims like "Paramore are a manufactured band", then I'll pretty much just take their word for it. Beyond that, Chris fallon pwns and I would follow him off a bridge.
Haha ok. I prefer to form my own opinions but to each his own, I suppose.

[Burn That Shit]

Haha ok. I prefer to form my own opinions but to each his own, I suppose.

But you didn't - and I did form my own opinion, I just didn't form it from a "reliable source" according to some.

[thespearkid]

But you didn't - and I did form my own opinion, I just didn't form it from a "reliable source" according to some.
You just took a bunch of un-sourced statements from Chris Fallon (which was full of logical fallacies, by the way) and accepted them as fact. I, on the other hand, typically prefer proof when someone makes a statement as grand as "this band's entire backstory is made up". Again, I don't know if they're manufactured or not but I'd sure love to see Chris Fallon come up with some real evidence of this instead of constantly name dropping his super secret, ttly reliable inside source.

[maxvsmaradona]

All American Rejects.

[Burn That Shit]

You just took a bunch of un-sourced statements from Chris Fallon (which was full of logical fallacies, by the way) and accepted them as fact. I, on the other hand, typically prefer proof when someone makes a statement as grand as "this band's entire backstory is made up". Again, I don't know if they're manufactured or not but I'd sure love to see Chris Fallon come up with some real evidence of this instead of constantly name dropping his super secret, ttly reliable inside source.

And that's still forming an opinion based off of information you have heard in some form, so you're still wrong.

[undonesweater93]

Theory of a Deadman

[danielineffigy]

http://www.myspace.com/ofmice

Previous screamer of Attack Attack! (The US dance/emocore/hottopic one). They have a professionally recorded demo... but not a full lineup??? Lol.

Edit: Whoah, all that shit wasn't there last week when drums and guitar were still "pending". But that demo was. This is the best definition ever haha.

[thespearkid]

And that's still forming an opinion based off of information you have heard in some form, so you're still wrong.
Do you honestly not see the difference between accepting random accusations as facts without any evidence to support them and looking up the facts and information on your own on to form your opinion? Come on, you're twenty-one. You're just being argumentative now.

[_><_]

http://www.myspace.com/ofmice

Previous screamer of Attack Attack! (The US dance/emocore/hottopic one). They have a professionally recorded demo... but not a full lineup??? Lol.

Edit: Whoah, all that shit wasn't there last week when drums and guitar were still "pending". But that demo was. This is the best definition ever haha.

Perfect example. 1 week as a band and already signed to Rise.

[onlyhub]

anyway, i like country music.

at www.onlyhub.com (http://www.onlyhub.com) you can find more.

[jbaseball44]

Manufactured Band: A band put together in order to appeal to a particular group of people and earn a profit by appealing to them. Labels generally put these bands together for obvious reasons. Some of the obvious examples are those already mentioned. Paramore is the most obvious example.

[love_american_style]

story of the year are manufactured as well.

[Snork]

hey everyone let's just list random bands that are popular with no citation or evidence

i'm pretty sure the all-american rejects were not manufactured
their first demos were shitty and self-produced
their debut album was actually initially issued on doghouse and they didn't get huge until they were signed to interscope and then it got re-issued as we know it now
a very corporate-involved band, yes, but that doesn't mean that they're fake

[Burn That Shit]

Do you honestly not see the difference between accepting random accusations as facts without any evidence to support them and looking up the facts and information on your own on to form your opinion? Come on, you're twenty-one. You're just being argumentative now.

I do know the difference, but like I said, I don't give a shit about the band so it's not like I'm going to go on an internet scavenger hunt with you searching for the truth about Paramore because, well, I just don't give a shit. The accusations seem real enough to me that I can put some faith in them, nor do I have any reason not to believe a certain Chris Fallon. And accepting random accusations as facts without evidence is accepted as forming your own opinion in this country, by the way.

[thespearkid]

I do know the difference, but like I said, I don't give a shit about the band so it's not like I'm going to go on an internet scavenger hunt with you searching for the truth about Paramore because, well, I just don't give a shit. The accusations seem real enough to me that I can put some faith in them, nor do I have any reason not to believe a certain Chris Fallon. And accepting random accusations as facts without evidence is accepted as forming your own opinion in this country, by the way.
Just because everyone else is an idiot, doesn't mean you have to be one too. If you don't give a shit about Paramore, why perpetuate things about them that you don't know to be true? Honestly, people like you are a big part of what's wrong with the American youth. You just hear shit and say, "Eh, sounds like it could be true." and accept/perpetuate it without any further investigation.

But of course, you'll just respond with "I don't give a shit about Paramore" and try to defend being embarrassingly gullible for your age so I think we can pretty much end this conversation here.

[stayforawhile]

Wasn't The Almost manufactured?

[kianacarly]

The Monkees. I know, that one just blew your mind.

[Burn That Shit]

Just because everyone else is an idiot, doesn't mean you have to be one too. If you don't give a shit about Paramore, why perpetuate things about them that you don't know to be true?

Answered your own question.

Honestly, people like you are a big part of what's wrong with the American youth. You just hear shit and say, "Eh, sounds like it could be true." and accept/perpetuate it without any further investigation.

Except that's not what I do. You can't just make these generalizations based off of me not caring about Paramore to the point where I'll accept most shit talk about them. Investigating what is presented to you for falsities is obviously important, but I'm not going to critically examine statements about Paramore, it's not worth my fucking time. You making sweeping generalizations is what's wrong with America, in general.

But of course, you'll just respond with "I don't give a shit about Paramore" and try to defend being embarrassingly gullible for your age so I think we can pretty much end this conversation here.

I'll defend being "embarrassingly gullible" when you start your internet scavenger hunt and prepare some defense for Paramore beyond "Dude, investigate the facts, bro!".

[npmshah]

Lolwhat.

I don't doubt Paramore are a manufactured band, look up all the producer co-writes they have. Not only that, but they formed as a band in 2004, and released a self titled in 2005 with full record label support. Things don't just happen like that. Needless to say, I'm not going to spend much time investigating a band that I don't give a shit about beyond going to wikipedia and reading what people say on ap.net. Chris Fallon articulated his arguement pretty well in that thread, and considering this is the kind of stuff he likes, I wouldn't doubt him.
Sing iT Loud played seven shows together before they were signed and given tons of support
im sorry, but shit has happened FASTER than when it did with paramore

[ablueskytragedy]

Pretty much every band that has a t-shirt in Hot Topic.


Well not really.

[Burn That Shit]

Sing iT Loud played seven shows together before they were signed and given tons of support
im sorry, but shit has happened FASTER than when it did with paramore

But they were signed by Epitaph, who are going to go under soon enough because they'll sign anyone with the right amount of myspace plays.

[npmshah]

Wasn't The Almost manufactured?
no... they were created by Aaron and most of it was written BY aaron... its just that he is SO involved with Tooth And Nail that getting signed was pretty easy for them... no more paying dues for aaron

[npmshah]

But they were signed by Epitaph, who are going to go under soon enough because they'll sign anyone with the right amount of myspace plays.
yes but they were still not manufactures
all i am saying is that just because a band gets some really fast success DOES NOT mean they are manufactured...
an example: Cute Is What We Aim For. Though the band doesnt deserve to be as big as they are, i know they werent manufactured, even though tons of people do think so. How do i know this? because THIS website broke them into the mainstream and i have heard their earliest demos (which suck)

[Burn That Shit]

yes but they were still not manufactures

Manufactured, but no you don't know that.

all i am saying is that just because a band gets some really fast success DOES NOT mean they are manufactured...

No but it will certainly make everyone suspicious.

an example: Cute Is What We Aim For. Though the band doesnt deserve to be as big as they are, i know they werent manufactured, even though tons of people do think so. How do i know this? because THIS website broke them into the mainstream and i have heard their earliest demos (which suck)

CIWWAF was signed by FBR, so even if they weren't manufactured, which they probably were since none of those assholes get along, they probably have tons of producer co-writes which is just as bad.

[npmshah]

Manufactured, but no you don't know that.



No but it will certainly make everyone suspicious.



CIWWAF was signed by FBR, so even if they weren't manufactured, which they probably were since none of those assholes get along, they probably have tons of producer co-writes which is just as bad.
haha thanks for catching that...
it makes some people suspicous, but those people happen to be bloody elitists most of the time...
whats wrong with a producer co-writes on some songs... TONS of bands have at least one producer cowrites
from hated groups like Millionaires to worshipped and much revered bands like Say ANything

[Burn That Shit]

haha thanks for catching that...
it makes some people suspicous, but those people happen to be bloody elitists most of the time...
whats wrong with a producer co-writes on some songs... TONS of bands have at least one producer cowrites
from hated groups like Millionaires to worshipped and much revered bands like Say ANything

I personally dislike producer co-writes because the producers aren't in the band so they shouldn't be writing for the artist. If I dislike Britney Spears because she doesn't write her music, I feel that bands like Say Anything or Paramore should be held to that same standard, even for just 2 or 3 songs, which sucks because most of the catchy singles happen to be producer co-writes :(

[hiya]

I just think of it as any group put together where the members did not know each other prior to the band and the lbael creates their sound/look or a band who gets signed and change everything about them in order to please someone else.. key example would be O-Town, forced together on a tv show, things do not end well.

[npmshah]

I personally dislike producer co-writes because the producers aren't in the band so they shouldn't be writing for the artist. If I dislike Britney Spears because she doesn't write her music, I feel that bands like Say Anything or Paramore should be held to that same standard, even for just 2 or 3 songs, which sucks because most of the catchy singles happen to be producer co-writes :(
but pretty much EVERY band has at least one co-write
including Valencia, Green Day, and SO much more

[LamarVannoy]

story of the year are manufactured as well.
i have a hard time believing that.

[maxvsmaradona]

All American Rejects.

[pointofgravity]

The Jonas Fucking Brothers,if you can call it a band.

And definate;y Metro fucking station.

[doppelganger]

the monkees. probably the most successful one.