black qbs/running qbs

[Doug]

are ruining football. in a few years, every college quarterback is going to an athlete/scrambling quarterback and the position as we know it will cease to exist. fuck michael robinson, fuck troy smith, fuck vince young, fuck mike vick.

give me byron leftwich or matt leinart any day.

[itsjdiggity]

haha...i love how running is immediately paired with black

[Doug]

well... duh.

i mean, i guess there was steve young, and doug flutie. and matt jones, but he had the good sense to become a wide receiver.

[Doug]

who's the only black quarterback to win a super bowl??

















are you ready?

















are you ready now?














doug williams, slow as fuck, not a scrambler.

[bigmike]

in college, i think it's easier for an athlete type QB to dominate, because in college athletics, you can ride a star player alot farther than you can in professional athletics.

[Doug]

yeah, but once every college quarterback is an athlete type, there are no good QUARTERBACKS to be drafted by the nfl. example no. 1: alex smith was the no. 1 pick in the draft last year

[bigmike]

yeah, but once every college quarterback is an athlete type, there are no good QUARTERBACKS to be drafted by the nfl. example no. 1: alex smith was the no. 1 pick in the draft last year

i get what you're saying and i agree with you.

However, should Mack Brown really care about churning out a great NFL quarterback when he's coaching college and his job is on the line depending on how his kids do in college football?

[G-Unit]

haha theyr good basketball players too

[itsjdiggity]

i wish Steve Mcnair could run faster so he could walk by the age of 50

[FondestMemory]

are ruining football. in a few years, every college quarterback is going to an athlete/scrambling quarterback and the position as we know it will cease to exist. fuck michael robinson, fuck troy smith, fuck vince young, fuck mike vick.

give me byron leftwich or matt leinart any day.

this is by far, the dumbest, most ignorant thing i have ever read.

seriously. do you know how stupid you sound?

you're right though. quarterbacks like elway, young, tarkington, favre, cunningham and the like totally kicked off the demise of this position. i mean, what did they ever do for the sport?

for every vince young-type, there's a matt leinart-type. but the game would totally be so much better if every quarterback brought the same thing to the table. it'd be a lot more balanced that way.

fuck ignorant fucks who make moronic statements.

[Broken Parachute]

Black QB's are ruining the NFL? Hmm..sounds a little racist to me. That's pretty ignorant. Your whole first post is.

[Emopunkthrice]

you kids are all ignorant, lets all hold hands, were on the subway

[justinevans]

Michael Robinson will be WR if anything in the NFL.

[Thomas Sway]

are ruining football. in a few years, every college quarterback is going to an athlete/scrambling quarterback and the position as we know it will cease to exist. fuck michael robinson, fuck troy smith, fuck vince young, fuck mike vick.

give me byron leftwich or matt leinart any day.
Fuck all these other comments man. I'm so with you on this shit.

[yutsmcgee]

that really does sound ignorant as fuck. there are plent of white scramblers. jeff garcia, jake plummer, mike mcmahon, doug flutie, there was eric crouch, who was probably the most athletic quarterback to ever play college football, other than mike vick. putting "black" in there is dumb as fuck.

[yutsmcgee]

p.s. there are only two true black scrambling qb's starting in the NFL right now, and one just got his knee torn to shreds. so that leaves one. you're a true dumbass.

[still_life]

It's ok, because the teams and QB's that actually accomplish things are pocket passers that don't look to run first.

[Talib Scottie]

Name the last scrambling QB to win a NCAA title (before Vince Young)? Where are these guys taking over? Vick is the best one so far and he can't get his team in the playoffs.

Weinke, White, Dorsey... you should blame these guys to to accent of running QBs in the NFL.

[bigmike]

Name the last scrambling QB to win a NCAA title? Where are these guys taking over? Vick is the best one so far and he can't get his team in the playoffs.

Weinke, White, Dorsey... you should blame these guys to to accent of running QBs in the NFL.

Um, I think Vince Young could scramble a bit.

[Talib Scottie]

Um, I think Vince Young could scramble a bit.
No shit. I meant before last night.

[Doug]

ok, see i put black qbs/scrambling because i don't mean black people are ruining the world. the majority of scrambling quarterbacks, are black. i can categorize scrambling quarterbacks as black quarterbacks. bringing the racist card in here is stupid, because you all know what i meant. now, everyone's saying how ignorant this is, but no one's putting up a solid argument. why am i wrong? what evidence in the ncaa is telling you that i am wrong. what evidence in the nfl is telling you that i am wrong? scrambling quarterbacks/athlete types have never won a super bowl. the majority of quarterbacks in the ncaa are scrambling/option quarterbacks. the numbers of these types of players are increasing yearly. in a gradual amount of time, pocket passers might be extinct in ncaa, meaning they will be extinct in the pros. and you know what? that really sucks.

[Spicoli hey bud]

how is this "ruining the game?"

[Doug]

this is by far, the dumbest, most ignorant thing i have ever read.

seriously. do you know how stupid you sound?

you're right though. quarterbacks like elway, young, tarkington, favre, cunningham and the like totally kicked off the demise of this position. i mean, what did they ever do for the sport?

for every vince young-type, there's a matt leinart-type. but the game would totally be so much better if every quarterback brought the same thing to the table. it'd be a lot more balanced that way.

fuck ignorant fucks who make moronic statements.

would you honestly consider brett favre a scrambling quarterback? and elway? and steve young? i mean, they were better at scrambling than tom brady, but those are pocket passers. and what did randall cunningham ever do to this league other than start the insurgence of vick, culpepper, vince young, michael robinson, troy smith, adrian mcpherson, marcus vick, david garrard, stefan lefors, reggie mcneal, etc. etc. i'm not saying they're ruining the nfl now. other than michael vick. i'm saying down the line, after every ncaa team converts to running quarterbacks, they will have ruined the quarterback position. every dude there i mentioned, why don't they play running back or wide receiver?

out of every black quarterback in the league, byron leftwich will win a super bowl first. because he's a pocket passer.

[Doug]

because athlete type quarterbacks don't work in the nfl

the quarterback position is meant to be a pocket passer style.

people wonder why so many nfl quarterbacks suck these days, college recruiters aren't looking for dudes who don't run with strong accurate arms anymore, they look for someone who will take over an offense on their own. something that doesn't work in the nfl.

[Talib Scottie]

Leftwhich / Garrard have the best team around them, but I'd definately rather have Leftwich.

[Spicoli hey bud]

because athlete type quarterbacks don't work in the nfl

the quarterback position is meant to be a pocket passer style.

people wonder why so many nfl quarterbacks suck these days, college recruiters aren't looking for dudes who don't run with strong accurate arms anymore, they look for someone who will take over an offense on their own. something that doesn't work in the nfl.
I'd still take Mike Vick over a lot of QBs

[Talib Scottie]

because athlete type quarterbacks don't work in the nfl

the quarterback position is meant to be a pocket passer style.

people wonder why so many nfl quarterbacks suck these days, college recruiters aren't looking for dudes who don't run with strong accurate arms anymore, they look for someone who will take over an offense on their own. something that doesn't work in the nfl.
True, but that's because if you run the option in the NFL QBs would get murdered, if might would work but your QB would pay the price. Imagine telling Julius Peppers that his duty on the option is to hit the QB. Ugly.

[Doug]

p.s. there are only two true black scrambling qb's starting in the NFL right now, and one just got his knee torn to shreds. so that leaves one. you're a true dumbass.

scrambling quarterbacks in the nfl:

vick
culpepper
mcnabb
mcmahon
garrard
aaron brooks


hey guys, remember the roaring success of players such as jeff blake, kordell stewart, akili smith, michael bishop, rohan davey? ME NEITHER!

how bout eric crouch and tommie frazier? remember their incredible nfl careers?

i love matt jones, randle-el, anquan boldin, hines ward because they didn't try to play quarterback in the nfl.

[Doug]

I'd still take Mike Vick over a lot of QBs

at running back? i'd take mike vick at running back over a lot of qbs too. not at quarterback though. cause he sucks a lot at that position. but yeah, i'd take mike vick at running back over pretty much every qb.

[Talib Scottie]

I'd consider Culpepper, McNabb, and Aaron Brooks balanced QBs.

Eric Crouch was supposed to be a safety but cried and went home because he can't play QB.

[Doug]

I'd consider Culpepper, McNabb, and Aaron Brooks balanced QBs.

Eric Crouch was supposed to be a safety but cried and went home because he can't play QB.

they have more of a running style than say... the good quarterbacks in the nfl.

[preppyak]

I'd consider Culpepper, McNabb, and Aaron Brooks balanced QBs.

Yeah, but Brooks is pretty bad throwing wise, I almost wish he ran more.

And the problem with Vick is taht you can shut down his running. If you spy somebody on him, a safety, he will not break contain more than a time or two a game. And he doesn't have the consistency (he has the strength) to be a great pocket passer

[Talib Scottie]

Yeah, but Brooks is pretty bad throwing wise, I almost wish he ran more.
Well he's just plain not good.

[Doug]

Yeah, but Brooks is pretty bad throwing wise, I almost wish he ran more.

he'd be worse

culpepper and mcnabb became better quarterbacks when they stopped running as much.

[Talib Scottie]

they have more of a running style than say... the good quarterbacks in the nfl.
Yes true, they are more inclinned to running then the average QB.

[preppyak]

he'd be worse

culpepper and mcnabb became better quarterbacks when they stopped running as much.
I'm guessing that is actually not possible, but I could be wrong. Aaron Brooks worse=Kordell Stewart. That is bad

[itsjdiggity]

i love matt jones, randle-el, anquan boldin, hines ward because they didn't try to play quarterback in the nfl.

and drew bennett perhaps?

[Talib Scottie]

I'm guessing that is actually not possible, but I could be wrong. Aaron Brooks worse=Kordell Stewart. That is bad
Haha. He's actually not THAT bad. Brooks actually manages to throw more TDS then Ints (except for this year)

I'd call him an average starter

[Doug]

and drew bennett perhaps?

yup.

remember rick mirer? he was a runner too.

[fromwithin]

90% of these scrambling black QB's never turn out to be QB's in the nfl. Vick's passer rating is dismal, he's basically a modified running back. Mcnabb and Culpepper are there because they are like 240 and 260 respectively and can throw the ball or pound it in there. Vince Young will not be a QB in the NFL, nor will Michael Robinson.

oh and I don't know if you got the memo, but black people took over the NBA and NFL a while ago. how else do you think neanderthals with sub 2.0 GPA's can get into prestigious schools?