The Juliana Theory "A Small Noise" Tracklsiting [Archive]

Frank Giaramita

01/06/06, 09:13 PM

Below is the tracklisting for The Juliana Theory (www.thejulianatheory.com)'s upcoming "best of" record, A Small Noise. The album is due out February 7th, 2006 through Tooth & Nail (www.toothandnail.com).

1. Duane Joseph
2. For Evangeline
3. August In Bethany
4. Constellation
5. The Closest Thing
6. If I Told You This Was Killing Me, Would You Stop?
7. Into The Dark
8. To The Tune Of 5,000 Screaming Children
9. Is Patience Still Waiting
10. We're At The Top Of The World
11. You Always Say Goodnight, Goodnight
12. This IS The End Of Your Life
13. Breathing By Wires

Submitted by: LMB

hmmmmmm

01/06/06, 09:18 PM

why don't they just have a special buy one get one free offfer. that cd seems pretty weak. I love there old stuff but all those songs are basically from the first 2 cds.

danielj135

01/06/06, 09:19 PM

Everiggs

01/06/06, 09:26 PM

This has nothing new to interest people. This is a perfect example of a CD that definitely doesn't need to be released. But, I guess money is all that matters in the industry...

Gabe Gross

01/06/06, 09:29 PM

i was expecting to see like a 2 CD song list with at least 25 songs...

im pissed

just go buy all their albums

THEN when you are a super huge fan buy this album

swirlofhues

01/06/06, 09:33 PM

i'm pretty sure they don't have that much in charge of what goes on the album. it's basically tooth and nail. if you noticed, no songs off of "love" or "dbshb" because they were on different labels when they set out those records. so, i'm making the bold assumption saying that this was part of the deal with tooth and nail trying to bank em for all they're worth and not entirely TJT's fault for pulling a stupid move.

edit: oops, didn't see the replies. yeah, basically what everyone said above.

preppyak

01/06/06, 10:00 PM

i was expecting to see like a 2 CD song list with at least 25 songs...

im pissed

just go buy all their albums

THEN when you are a super huge fan buy this album
Why would anyone buy this if they had all the albums, this is one of the most mediocre displays of a "best of" album. It's more laughable to a fan who knows a lot of songs are missing.

boldt_action

01/06/06, 10:08 PM

Yeah I already own all except Music from another room. So I won't buy it, but it's a decent mix, for someone who doesn't know them well.

MarkyMark1984

01/06/06, 10:32 PM

yeah, i have all of TJT stuff and i won't get this. i could make my own juliana theory mix that is better than that (more songs at least). they should put this out with some sort of dvd if they want it to sell better.

hubbabubbal3ts

01/06/06, 10:36 PM

is their latest album any good?

transitrock

01/06/06, 10:39 PM

instead of buying this, just go out and get 'understand this is a dream' and 'emotion is dead' and you'll be getting more good music in return anyway.

NoPenguinsInPA

01/06/06, 10:47 PM

oxfordqueef

01/06/06, 10:49 PM

instead of buying this, just go out and get 'understand this is a dream' and 'emotion is dead' and you'll be getting more good music in return anyway.

I love your icon

Caleb Cattivera

01/06/06, 11:07 PM

i think this is kindof a smart move- tjt is saying "hey look, we USED TO be good!" unfortunately they've fallen into creed/nickelback drivel of late

such a shame that these are the guys who got me into the scene and the only way for them to put something decent out is to rerelease the classics...

it's dumb ass kids like you expecting another emotion is dead and dont appreciate how they've matured in music.

creed and nickleback? wow, listen to something besides screamo kiddies. learn to APPRECIATE music instead of bashing it.

UnderManagement

01/06/06, 11:16 PM

it's dumb ass kids like you expecting another emotion is dead and dont appreciate how they've matured in music.

creed and nickleback? wow, listen to something besides screamo kiddies. learn to APPRECIATE music instead of bashing it.

I agree with you. However, DBSB was still a step backwards. The EP and Love were comrpised of music with incredible depth, and a really great combination of classic rock influence and newer ambient sound, but DBSB was basically a pop rock record with a little bit more to it musically than most.

Caleb Cattivera

01/06/06, 11:21 PM

I agree with you. However, DBSB was still a step backwards. The EP and Love were comrpised of music with incredible depth, and a really great combination of classic rock influence and newer ambient sound, but DBSB was basically a pop rock record with a little bit more to it musically than most.

i dunno i think it was a step forward...i think it's a great album, and it's actually my #2 of the year in my top 20 of the year list. i can see how people could be disappointed with it...but i was amazed by it.

UnderManagement

01/06/06, 11:33 PM

i dunno i think it was a step forward...i think it's a great album, and it's actually my #2 of the year in my top 20 of the year list. i can see how people could be disappointed with it...but i was amazed by it.

I'm not judging anyone's individual taste, but from a musicians perspective it just doens't stand up to the two I mentioned. Love especially has so much more complexity to the individual parts. Just listen to what Chip is doing on each record... on DBSB he's just keeping time far too often.

Caleb Cattivera

01/06/06, 11:40 PM

I'm not judging anyone's individual taste, but from a musicians perspective it just doens't stand up to the two I mentioned. Love especially has so much more complexity to the individual parts. Just listen to what Chip is doing on each record... on DBSB he's just keeping time far too often.

im fortunate enough to speak with brett once or twice a week...and they're all thrilled with the album. it's done alot better overseas than here in the states...but expect big things coming from them soon. :)

Scott Weber

01/06/06, 11:42 PM

haha, this band probably still owes tooth and nail records.

Caleb Cattivera

01/06/06, 11:46 PM

haha, this band probably still owes tooth and nail records.

i dunno about owing them anything. emotion is dead has scanned 125 thousand copies...not bad for and older tooth and nail release.

dear Mariah

01/06/06, 11:55 PM

So if they don't owe T&N, how do you explain this release? It seems pretty unnecessary to me. Unless it's T&N trying to make as much money as possible off of the band.

swirlofhues

01/07/06, 12:11 AM

i dunno i think it was a step forward...i think it's a great album, and it's actually my #2 of the year in my top 20 of the year list. i can see how people could be disappointed with it...but i was amazed by it.

I had the exact same feeling. People don't really realize this is the first album they've really adopted the sound that they spent countless albums searching for.

quiksilver21k

01/07/06, 12:12 AM

Caleb Cattivera

01/07/06, 12:20 AM

I LOVE The Juliana Theory...but what in the world is this? They don't need a greatest hits album yet. Does this mean they are breaking up or something? And how come no LOVE or DBSHB stuff is on there? Very weird to me...

because tjt really has no say in this being put out...love and dbsb were on different labels...and t and n doesnt have the rights to those songs. i asked brett as early as a month ago about a greatest hits and he didnt have a clue about it...tooth and nail is putting this out to make a quick buck.

Keegan

01/07/06, 02:42 AM

because tjt really has no say in this being put out...love and dbsb were on different labels...and t and n doesnt have the rights to those songs. i asked brett as early as a month ago about a greatest hits and he didnt have a clue about it...tooth and nail is putting this out to make a quick buck.

DING DING DING we have a winner! this has nothing to do with TJT, this has to do with the fact that T&N owner doesn't like the fact that he's just a millionaire. This is exactly like when they released MxPx's Let it happen. Nothing but a slap in the face to MxPx fans, just like this is a slap in the face to TJT fans. Just like how they rereleased Underoaths cd with that lame excuse of a DVD (I like it but I bought it again 'cause I thought the DVD was gonna be stinkin ran). They don't have anyone putting out a recordright now that can do numbers like MxPx, TJT, and Underoath. They don't owe T&N any record, if they did they would've done this already or just thrown something togethor like every other band that T&N signs. Nothing like getting signed to 7 cd contracts.

ThatGuy

01/07/06, 06:15 AM

Keegan speaks the truth...

The Juliana Theory is one of the top selling t&n bands in their history. MxPx is probably the only band that has moved more units than TJT. So while their record contract was fulfilled with the live album, T&n still owns the rights to the songs off these albums. If they can sell another 50,000 copies of this record, then its all gravy. This is why you will hear "top of the world" pop up from time to time

If this actually had at least one unreleased song I might buy it. So if t&n wasn't so damn greedy toward their older artists and actually worked out something, then they could sell a lot more copies of this.

If i got 4 songs that haven't been released then I might pick this up. This is a good album if you are curious about TJT. If you are super curious, send me an instant message and i'll send you everything you need.

_Thursday

01/07/06, 06:42 AM

off topic but wooooo im finally seeing them live this week:D nearly 3yrs of waiting. as much as i love the new album, i do hope they play a good handfull of oldies though.

on topic, doubt ill buy that. shall see.

TommyGunn

01/07/06, 07:15 AM

They don't have anyone putting out a recordright now that can do numbers like MxPx, TJT, and Underoath.

The Juliana Theory and MXPX have proven that they CANT do numbers. Look at their most recent releases.

TommyGunn

01/07/06, 07:16 AM

the band picked the songs for this record.

agent00013

01/07/06, 07:29 AM

The Juliana Theory and MXPX have proven that they CANT do numbers. Look at their most recent releases.

Maybe that's only because they haven't found themselves pimps to whore them out to the masses. Their music is good regardless of who they have pimping it and I'm just glad I ever accidentally heard of The Juliana Theory when they had some free downloads at mp3.com back in the day.

I like 'em a lot, but since I already own all their albums and this one has nothing new... what's the point?

atticusfinch

01/07/06, 08:12 AM

The Juliana Theory and MXPX have proven that they CANT do numbers. Look at their most recent releases.

You're a fucking moron. Die.

TommyGunn

01/07/06, 08:38 AM

You're a fucking moron. Die.

No, I'm fucking right. Numbers don't lie.

Edit: I just realized you like Relient K, so I will take your statement with a grain of salt. You are obviously an idiot.

LMB

01/07/06, 09:40 AM

No, I'm fucking right. Numbers don't lie.

Edit: I just realized you like Relient K, so I will take your statement with a grain of salt. You are obviously an idiot.

Hey pretty girl, did you go to college? Did you get your B.A. with all that knowledge? I like your boobies in your shirt, now let me show you my penis.

TommyGunn

01/07/06, 09:54 AM

Hey pretty girl, did you go to college? Did you get your B.A. with all that knowledge? I like your boobies in your shirt, now let me show you my penis.

This from a fan of Harvey Danger. That really says it all I think.

Look, I just stated a fact. The Juliana Theory and MXPX no longer sell many CDs. You can argue with me all you want, but the fact is that I am right. I don't dislike the bands.

hubbabubbal3ts

01/07/06, 10:01 AM

what the h? did anyone see my question. what are peoples thoughts on their latest record? is it any good?

TommyGunn

01/07/06, 10:09 AM

what the h? did anyone see my question. what are peoples thoughts on their latest record? is it any good?

I do not think it is as good as their early stuff. I particularly like Emotion Is Dead.

However, if you are a fan of the band I think you will enjoy some of the record. Their is definately some filler as well, but overall it's probably worth $10 or whatever you might pay for it.

LMB

01/07/06, 10:21 AM

This from a fan of Harvey Danger. That really says it all I think.

Look, I just stated a fact. The Juliana Theory and MXPX no longer sell many CDs. You can argue with me all you want, but the fact is that I am right. I don't dislike the bands.

Why's everyone makin' fun of my pants. They're just pants, why not give 'em a chance? I like the fit, I like the cut. I like the way they make me look when I strut. I'm just being me, my name is Lance, so everybody stop making fun of my pants. Out.

Bobcat46308

01/07/06, 10:47 AM

is their latest album any good?

it's awesome

number2alien

01/07/06, 11:14 AM

i think this is kindof a smart move- tjt is saying "hey look, we USED TO be good!" unfortunately they've fallen into creed/nickelback drivel of late

such a shame that these are the guys who got me into the scene and the only way for them to put something decent out is to rerelease the classics...

You know this is just Tooth and Nail trying to cash in on one of their more successful bands from the past, right?

Scott Weber

01/07/06, 11:17 AM

because tjt really has no say in this being put out...love and dbsb were on different labels...and t and n doesnt have the rights to those songs. i asked brett as early as a month ago about a greatest hits and he didnt have a clue about it...tooth and nail is putting this out to make a quick buck.
juliana theory still owes tooth and nail records, they're contractually obliged to allow tooth and nail to put this out. trust me. just like mxpx, even after they got free of tooth and nail, put out 1) let it happen 2) at the show 3) 10 years and running - all on tooth and nail. TJT i'm sure signed a deal for a whole lot of records when they first signed, and tooth and nail was nice enough to let them move on after only 3 releases, (they could have held onto them for the length of the deal) but the initial contract is probably for 5+ years, hence the live and greatest hits albums after the fact.

Caleb Cattivera

01/07/06, 12:09 PM

juliana theory still owes tooth and nail records, they're contractually obliged to allow tooth and nail to put this out. trust me. just like mxpx, even after they got free of tooth and nail, put out 1) let it happen 2) at the show 3) 10 years and running - all on tooth and nail. TJT i'm sure signed a deal for a whole lot of records when they first signed, and tooth and nail was nice enough to let them move on after only 3 releases, (they could have held onto them for the length of the deal) but the initial contract is probably for 5+ years, hence the live and greatest hits albums after the fact.

your right...

tommygun...you're an idiot...i just got this email from brett

Caleb, I wanted to set the record straight about this "best of" ablum on Tooth and Nail. aside from choosing the songs on this
(from our Tooth and Nail catalog) approving artwork, and titling it, we had nothing to do with this thing. This is something,
due to our ridiculously crappy contract with Tooth and Nail, that they have the right to put out no matter what we think. There are no unreleased tracks, no b-sides, not even different mixes. When the label told us they were putting this thing
out, we asked them to combine it with some rare tracks and demos that we have. They were uninterested in this.
We wanted to make it something cool for our die hard fans, but instead it is a compilation that anybody

could have made themselves with their iTunes.

Brett

invincibleXL

01/07/06, 12:09 PM

what the h? did anyone see my question. what are peoples thoughts on their latest record? is it any good?

As stated before, I must say that TJT's latest album is remarkable. It is definitely a contender for my top album of '05. Basically, they took the sound they were loved for and evolved it into, what I think is, just about perfect. They managed to capture the sound, emotion, and attitude that I'm pretty sure they were going for. I think it is a HUGE step up from LOVE. Yes, LOVE did have strong music, but as far as song structures and the songwriting, it wasn't anywhere near as appealing as Deadbeat Sweetheartbeat. Take a listen to it, because I wasn't even a huge TJT fan until I heard this album. I had been waiting for it, and when it finally came out it caught me the fuck off guard. Good shit.

Scott Weber

01/07/06, 12:31 PM

it's so funny how kids brag about how they know exactly how the record industry works when they have absolutely no idea at all.

FASSWcore

01/07/06, 02:13 PM

i will own this cd

ThatGuy

01/07/06, 03:08 PM

No, I'm fucking right. Numbers don't lie.

Edit: I just realized you like Relient K, so I will take your statement with a grain of salt. You are obviously an idiot.

actually you're wrong. it's not about how many units these bands can move. they made the music, but its up to the labels to do their part and I would say a&m and epic dropped the ball and didn't know what these guys have.

bands like blink 182 and good charlotte basically made all of mxpx's money as far as I'm concerned. the music business is 10% talent and 90% luck. blink and gc hit and mxpx didn't

the juliana theory shot themselves in the foot with Love. their old fans didn't dig it. then the record label had no idea how to market it. those two combined together got them pushed out of their record deal. so tjt has had no chance to show how good numbers they can do.

and i like how brett said they wanted to put bsides and demos on this. this would have been a great idea, but obviously t&n is still pissed about everything.

Caleb Cattivera

01/07/06, 03:37 PM

actually you're wrong. it's not about how many units these bands can move. they made the music, but its up to the labels to do their part and I would say a&m and epic dropped the ball and didn't know what these guys have.

bands like blink 182 and good charlotte basically made all of mxpx's money as far as I'm concerned. the music business is 10% talent and 90% luck. blink and gc hit and mxpx didn't

the juliana theory shot themselves in the foot with Love. their old fans didn't dig it. then the record label had no idea how to market it. those two combined together got them pushed out of their record deal. so tjt has had no chance to show how good numbers they can do.

and i like how brett said they wanted to put bsides and demos on this. this would have been a great idea, but obviously t&n is still pissed about everything.

VERY well put. new favorite member on ap is you.

LMB

01/07/06, 03:43 PM

i will own this cd

I'm with you. Even though it's useless, I'll still buy it because I'm a hardcore collector and I love The Juliana Theory. Hell, I bought all the official live bootlegs from InstantLive.com

TommyGunn

01/07/06, 03:55 PM

your right...

tommygun...you're an idiot...i just got this email from brett

Caleb, I wanted to set the record straight about this "best of" ablum on Tooth and Nail. aside from choosing the songs on this
(from our Tooth and Nail catalog) approving artwork, and titling it, we had nothing to do with this thing. This is something,
due to our ridiculously crappy contract with Tooth and Nail, that they have the right to put out no matter what we think. There are no unreleased tracks, no b-sides, not even different mixes. When the label told us they were putting this thing
out, we asked them to combine it with some rare tracks and demos that we have. They were uninterested in this.
We wanted to make it something cool for our die hard fans, but instead it is a compilation that anybody

could have made themselves with their iTunes.

Brett

so he confirmed what I said. they picked the songs. How does that make me an idiot?

A 'best of' is just that. A collection of a bands best songs from all of their albums (which granted is subjective). If it was called 'bsides and demos' then maybe it would have some of those things.

And for all bands who complain about their crappy contracts, I'd like to remind you of something: you signed it.

And I'm assuming when Brett says "we wanted them to use these other songs"...it certainly would not have been for free. And let's face it...those songs are not worth much.

Now let's try and stick to a intelligent conversation and avoid the name calling. Cool Caleb?

Caleb Cattivera

01/07/06, 06:01 PM

so he confirmed what I said. they picked the songs. How does that make me an idiot?

A 'best of' is just that. A collection of a bands best songs from all of their albums (which granted is subjective). If it was called 'bsides and demos' then maybe it would have some of those things.

And for all bands who complain about their crappy contracts, I'd like to remind you of something: you signed it.

And I'm assuming when Brett says "we wanted them to use these other songs"...it certainly would not have been for free. And let's face it...those songs are not worth much.

Now let's try and stick to a intelligent conversation and avoid the name calling. Cool Caleb?

there's a difference between being logical about it...and being an overbearing prick...you chose to do the latter. basing peoples opinions off of what they listen to...not cool.

you know nothing about album sales. just stop now before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

TommyGunn

01/08/06, 07:18 AM

there's a difference between being logical about it...and being an overbearing prick...you chose to do the latter. basing peoples opinions off of what they listen to...not cool.

you know nothing about album sales. just stop now before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

What are you talking about? I know that both of those bands have sold a FRACTION of what they used to sell. Why are you taking this so personally? What did I do to you?

So step off or I'll take the gloves off.