View Full Version : My frustration has come down to this...
The Nephilm
03/13/03, 08:01 AM
i'm going to try to sum up the collective opinions of every 'republican' in this thread.....
let's go kick iraq's ass, regardless of what the rest of the world says, but let's leave north korea, who actually could do some serious damage, to russia and china, but fuck russia and china, because they wont vote to let us attack iraq, even though we dont care and were going to do it anyway, and the french are a bunch of unwashed, filthy bastards who are doing exactly the opposite of what were doing, and they are wrong, while we are right, because we have god on our side, and not allah or that other invisible man that the dirty french talk to when they pray, and this isnt a crusade, oh ya and if you didnt get the idea already, fuck the rest of the world, they need to be doing what we want them to do, because if they dont, were going to blow thier fucking asshole countries off the map and bush is the smartiest man in the world who is never wrong and loves god and babies and HATES THE BLACKS,,,,,,,,,,,, AND YOU DONT GET A FUCKING PERIOD, JUST A NEVER TERMINATING RUN ON POLITICAL OPINION THAT MAKES LESS SENSE THAN USING MUSIC BOARD AND INTELLIGENT POLITICAL THEORY IN THE SAME SENTANCE
jesus fuck, are you morons seriously going to bitch at france when they are doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS WE ARE? the french are unwilling to look at any proposal that has a deadline on it, and the united states has already set its own personal deadline, completely ignoring the protests of the other members of the UN.
this fucking stupid xenophobic crap has to stop. what you people dont seem to understand is that we are part of a GLOBAL ECONOMY. if the united states essentially told everyone to go fuck themselves, the way you are suggesting, our economy would disappear. the depression is a cakewalk compared to the mess we would have on our hands. you know why the united states can afford all the ridiculous luxuries that it has? BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILT IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES BY PEOPLE WHO EARN $0.50 A DAY AND CONSIDER THEMSELVES FORTUNATE.
it's already started too. look at mexico. two years ago, we would have had thier vote before great britian's, and now? vincente has basically told us to shove it thanks to bushes position on immigration. THERE IS A DIRECT NEGATIVE RESULT OF PRESIDENT RETARD'S MIGHTY FOREIGN POLICY.
i wish you fucking zealots could step back and look at the big picture. every announcement by bush's cabinet sends the stock market plummeting, every speech that he mentions his personal faith as guidance scares the international community further from us, especially the communities that dont pray to jebus.
if you jackoffs want to have the trump card in this debate, i suggest you sign up for the military branch of your choice, go over to iraq, and kill a few iraqi soldiers in cold blood. you come back with that weight on your souls and you can shut me up. until then, you are hoping and praying that this will turn out all right, and that afterwards, bush will be able to save our eroding economy.
look at fucking britian, TONLY BLAIR, ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PRIME MINISTERS SINCE CHURCHILL has 19% of the UK's support for the war. members of his cabinet are threatening to resign. you know what happens to a prime minister that no one likes? they evict his sorry ass. and it doesnt take 4 years either.
Originally posted by The BBC
One British test requires Saddam Hussein to make a public statement, in Arabic and therefore to his own people,saying that he has hidden weapons of mass destruction and will give them up.
This is perhaps the most difficult of the demands. The idea of Saddam Hussein going public with a humiliating climbdown and mea culpa is difficult to imagine.
Indeed, this demand brings to mind the demarche made by Austria to Serbia after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo in 1914. It was designed to be so harsh as to be rejected. War followed not long afterwards.
what the fuck is this, your excuse for an attempt at peace? and coming from the 'rational' great britian? come on. fucking PLEASE.
stop the pretense. just say it. if you could admit that you could really give a shit about the state of the world, the fact that this is going to have political reverberations that last for YEARS. just fucking say it. you know you want to.
I LIKE MY WAR BLOODY AND ON CNN.
BrandNewRock05
03/13/03, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
i'm going to try to sum up the collective opinions of every 'republican' in this thread.....
let's go kick iraq's ass, regardless of what the rest of the world says, but let's leave north korea, who actually could do some serious damage, to russia and china, but fuck russia and china, because they wont vote to let us attack iraq, even though we dont care and were going to do it anyway, and the french are a bunch of unwashed, filthy bastards who are doing exactly the opposite of what were doing, and they are wrong, while we are right, because we have god on our side, and not allah or that other invisible man that the dirty french talk to when they pray, and this isnt a crusade, oh ya and if you didnt get the idea already, fuck the rest of the world, they need to be doing what we want them to do, because if they dont, were going to blow thier fucking asshole countries off the map and bush is the smartiest man in the world who is never wrong and loves god and babies and HATES THE BLACKS,,,,,,,,,,,, AND YOU DONT GET A FUCKING PERIOD, JUST A NEVER TERMINATING RUN ON POLITICAL OPINION THAT MAKES LESS SENSE THAN USING MUSIC BOARD AND INTELLIGENT POLITICAL THEORY IN THE SAME SENTANCE
jesus fuck, are you morons seriously going to bitch at france when they are doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS WE ARE? the french are unwilling to look at any proposal that has a deadline on it, and the united states has already set its own personal deadline, completely ignoring the protests of the other members of the UN.
this fucking stupid xenophobic crap has to stop. what you people dont seem to understand is that we are part of a GLOBAL ECONOMY. if the united states essentially told everyone to go fuck themselves, the way you are suggesting, our economy would disappear. the depression is a cakewalk compared to the mess we would have on our hands. you know why the united states can afford all the ridiculous luxuries that it has? BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILT IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES BY PEOPLE WHO EARN $0.50 A DAY AND CONSIDER THEMSELVES FORTUNATE.
it's already started too. look at mexico. two years ago, we would have had thier vote before great britian's, and now? vincente has basically told us to shove it thanks to bushes position on immigration. THERE IS A DIRECT NEGATIVE RESULT OF PRESIDENT RETARD'S MIGHTY FOREIGN POLICY.
i wish you fucking zealots could step back and look at the big picture. every announcement by bush's cabinet sends the stock market plummeting, every speech that he mentions his personal faith as guidance scares the international community further from us, especially the communities that dont pray to jebus.
if you jackoffs want to have the trump card in this debate, i suggest you sign up for the military branch of your choice, go over to iraq, and kill a few iraqi soldiers in cold blood. you come back with that weight on your souls and you can shut me up. until then, you are hoping and praying that this will turn out all right, and that afterwards, bush will be able to save our eroding economy.
look at fucking britian, TONLY BLAIR, ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PRIME MINISTERS SINCE CHURCHILL has 19% of the UK's support for the war. members of his cabinet are threatening to resign. you know what happens to a prime minister that no one likes? they evict his sorry ass. and it doesnt take 4 years either.
what the fuck is this, your excuse for an attempt at peace? and coming from the 'rational' great britian? come on. fucking PLEASE.
stop the pretense. just say it. if you could admit that you could really give a shit about the state of the world, the fact that this is going to have political reverberations that last for YEARS. just fucking say it. you know you want to.
I LIKE MY WAR BLOODY AND ON CNN.
Is that verbatum? And by the way I hate CNN, go FOX News.
yeat182
03/13/03, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
jesus fuck, are you morons seriously going to bitch at france when they are doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS WE ARE? the french are unwilling to look at any proposal that has a deadline on it, and the united states has already set its own personal deadline, completely ignoring the protests of the other members of the UN.
so, how is it that France is doing the exact same thing as we are?
BrandNewRock05
03/13/03, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by yeat182
so, how is it that France is doing the exact same thing as we are?
Yeah really
The Nephilm
03/13/03, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by yeat182
so, how is it that France is doing the exact same thing as we are?
they won't listen to a god mother fucking thing anyone else says, which is exactly what we are doing.
billcom6
03/13/03, 09:02 AM
why do the same people who want us to use the UN to deal with iraq want us to deal with north korea by ourselves???
the UN needs to get on north korea, but the UN is wak so theyre not
evil zach
03/13/03, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
i'm going to try to sum up the collective opinions of every 'republican' in this thread.....
let's go kick iraq's ass, regardless of what the rest of the world says, but let's leave north korea, who actually could do some serious damage, to russia and china, but fuck russia and china, because they wont vote to let us attack iraq, even though we dont care and were going to do it anyway, and the french are a bunch of unwashed, filthy bastards who are doing exactly the opposite of what were doing, and they are wrong, while we are right, because we have god on our side, and not allah or that other invisible man that the dirty french talk to when they pray, and this isnt a crusade, oh ya and if you didnt get the idea already, fuck the rest of the world, they need to be doing what we want them to do, because if they dont, were going to blow thier fucking asshole countries off the map and bush is the smartiest man in the world who is never wrong and loves god and babies and HATES THE BLACKS,,,,,,,,,,,, AND YOU DONT GET A FUCKING PERIOD, JUST A NEVER TERMINATING RUN ON POLITICAL OPINION THAT MAKES LESS SENSE THAN USING MUSIC BOARD AND INTELLIGENT POLITICAL THEORY IN THE SAME SENTANCE
jesus fuck, are you morons seriously going to bitch at france when they are doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS WE ARE? the french are unwilling to look at any proposal that has a deadline on it, and the united states has already set its own personal deadline, completely ignoring the protests of the other members of the UN.
this fucking stupid xenophobic crap has to stop. what you people dont seem to understand is that we are part of a GLOBAL ECONOMY. if the united states essentially told everyone to go fuck themselves, the way you are suggesting, our economy would disappear. the depression is a cakewalk compared to the mess we would have on our hands. you know why the united states can afford all the ridiculous luxuries that it has? BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILT IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES BY PEOPLE WHO EARN $0.50 A DAY AND CONSIDER THEMSELVES FORTUNATE.
it's already started too. look at mexico. two years ago, we would have had thier vote before great britian's, and now? vincente has basically told us to shove it thanks to bushes position on immigration. THERE IS A DIRECT NEGATIVE RESULT OF PRESIDENT RETARD'S MIGHTY FOREIGN POLICY.
i wish you fucking zealots could step back and look at the big picture. every announcement by bush's cabinet sends the stock market plummeting, every speech that he mentions his personal faith as guidance scares the international community further from us, especially the communities that dont pray to jebus.
if you jackoffs want to have the trump card in this debate, i suggest you sign up for the military branch of your choice, go over to iraq, and kill a few iraqi soldiers in cold blood. you come back with that weight on your souls and you can shut me up. until then, you are hoping and praying that this will turn out all right, and that afterwards, bush will be able to save our eroding economy.
look at fucking britian, TONLY BLAIR, ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PRIME MINISTERS SINCE CHURCHILL has 19% of the UK's support for the war. members of his cabinet are threatening to resign. you know what happens to a prime minister that no one likes? they evict his sorry ass. and it doesnt take 4 years either.
what the fuck is this, your excuse for an attempt at peace? and coming from the 'rational' great britian? come on. fucking PLEASE.
stop the pretense. just say it. if you could admit that you could really give a shit about the state of the world, the fact that this is going to have political reverberations that last for YEARS. just fucking say it. you know you want to.
I LIKE MY WAR BLOODY AND ON CNN.
simply brilliant
yeat182
03/13/03, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by billcom6
why do the same people who want us to use the UN to deal with iraq want us to deal with north korea by ourselves???
the UN needs to get on north korea, but the UN is wak so theyre not
exactly...where's france and germany when it comes to N. Korea?
Justin_stacy
03/13/03, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
let's go kick iraq's ass, regardless of what the rest of the world says, but let's leave north korea, who actually could do some serious damage, to russia and china, but fuck russia and china, because they wont vote to let us attack iraq
The minute we do go after N korea, all the liberals will be up in arms saying "there going to start a nuclear war." So thats a stupid argument to use, you know damn well when it comes down to it liberals will back down to Korea, no matter what is at stake.
Justin_stacy
03/13/03, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
HATES THE BLACKS,,,,,,,,,,,, AND YOU DONT GET A FUCKING PERIOD
Thats a great argument, so prove it oh smart one. And while your at it tell me one "great thing" that democrats have done for the black people in this country, have they impowered them in any way, no, or have they improved there living conditions in any way, not really. In fact theyve basically keep them poor, which is what the true cycle of wel-fare does.
yeat182
03/13/03, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
it's already started too. look at mexico. two years ago, we would have had thier vote before great britian's, and now? vincente has basically told us to shove it thanks to bushes position on immigration. THERE IS A DIRECT NEGATIVE RESULT OF PRESIDENT RETARD'S MIGHTY FOREIGN POLICY.
It isn't Bush's stance on immigration that is the problem, its the lack of enforcemnet from mexican authorities, many of whom are corrupt. the border with mexico is a serious threat to the US, as is Canada's, where any terrorist can walk across the border with out any problems.
Justin_stacy
03/13/03, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
it's already started too. look at mexico. two years ago, we would have had thier vote before great britian's, and now? vincente has basically told us to shove it thanks to bushes position on immigration. THERE IS A DIRECT NEGATIVE RESULT OF PRESIDENT RETARD'S MIGHTY FOREIGN POLICY.
The mexicans are only aganist the war, because Fox wants Bush to legallize all the 2 million Mexicans living in America that aren't suppose to be here. American imagration policy is made in Washington not Mexico City. That doesn't sound all that retard to me.
Get you fact straight before you lable some one else retarded.
NOFXdesendents5
03/13/03, 10:46 AM
there was a lot of things wrong in this post
Jim Morgan
03/13/03, 01:20 PM
neph, your so fucking confusing
are you for war or against it?
WithStamin
03/13/03, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
they won't listen to a god mother fucking thing anyone else says, which is exactly what we are doing. Is that bad? Should we comply with the whims of a defunct international body that has no purpose besides circumventing the United States?
BrandNewRock05
03/13/03, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
HATES THE BLACKS,,,,,,,,,,,, AND YOU DONT GET A FUCKING PERIOD
Who freed the blacks from slavery.....oh yeah Lincoln. Yeah great guy, wasnt he. Tall guy as well. One of the greatest presidents around, who may I state again freed the blacks. What party was he......oh yeah....REPUBLICAN.
WithStamin
03/13/03, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Originally posted by The Nephilm
HATES THE BLACKS,,,,,,,,,,,, AND YOU DONT GET A FUCKING PERIOD
Who freed the blacks from slavery.....oh yeah Lincoln. Yeah great guy, wasnt he. Tall guy as well. One of the greatest presidents around, who may I state again freed the blacks. What party was he......oh yeah....REPUBLICAN. Exactly. The Republican party was created on the basis of anti-slavery. Anyone who says that conservatives hate blacks don't know what they're talking about. True, we won't swing it around to to complete opposite and give blacks more rights than everyone else, but that shouldn't be done. Everyone should have equal rights under the eyes of the law. That means white get the same opportunities as blacks, which is not the case right now because of affirmative action.
BrandNewRock05
03/13/03, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by WithStamin
Exactly. The Republican party was created on the basis of anti-slavery. Anyone who says that conservatives hate blacks don't know what they're talking about. True, we won't swing it around to to complete opposite and give blacks more rights than everyone else, but that shouldn't be done. Everyone should have equal rights under the eyes of the law. That means white get the same opportunities as blacks, which is not the case right now because of affirmative action.
I dont think the party was formed on the basis of anti-slavery, but to call us black haters is far out of realm.
WithStamin
03/13/03, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
I dont think the party was formed on the basis of anti-slavery, but to call us black haters is far out of realm. It actually was. In Minnesota in 1854 (I think) a group of people got together and decided to form a new party against slavery.
The Nephilm
03/13/03, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Originally posted by The Nephilm
HATES THE BLACKS,,,,,,,,,,,, AND YOU DONT GET A FUCKING PERIOD
Who freed the blacks from slavery.....oh yeah Lincoln. Yeah great guy, wasnt he. Tall guy as well. One of the greatest presidents around, who may I state again freed the blacks. What party was he......oh yeah....REPUBLICAN.
Lincoln didn't give a motherfucker about "freeing the slaves" you dumb bastard. He "freed" the slaves to gain support. His goal was keeping the country intact.
WithStamin
03/13/03, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
Lincoln didn't give a motherfucker about "freeing the slaves" you dumb bastard. He "freed" the slaves to gain support. His goal was keeping the country intact. Hey, he freed the slaves. Someone for slavery wouldn't have done that. Also, is keeping the country intact such a morally low goal?
EmoMoose86
03/13/03, 06:32 PM
The Nephilm's Message in a nut shell:
"let's go kick iraq's ass, regardless of what the rest of the world says, but let's leave north korea, who actually could do some serious damage, to russia and china, but fuck russia and china, because they wont vote to let us attack iraq, even though we dont care and were going to do it anyway, and the french are a bunch of unwashed, filthy bastards who are doing exactly the opposite of what were doing, and they are wrong, while we are right, because we have god on our side, and not allah or that other invisible man that the dirty french talk to when they pray, and this isnt a crusade, oh ya and if you didnt get the idea already, fuck the rest of the world, they need to be doing what we want them to do, because if they dont, were going to blow thier fucking asshole countries off the map and bush is the smartiest man in the world who is never wrong and loves god and babies and HATES THE BLACKS,,,,,,,,,,,, AND YOU DONT GET A FUCKING PERIOD, JUST A NEVER TERMINATING RUN ON POLITICAL OPINION THAT MAKES LESS SENSE THAN USING MUSIC BOARD AND INTELLIGENT POLITICAL THEORY IN THE SAME SENTANCE"
Well okay, So you think the reason we are not going to war with North Korea first is because China and Russia won't pass a resolution? Way to jump to the most off the wall conclusion you could possibly think of.
Bush hates blacks? This is new to me. Please explain your reasoning.
Yes- Bush is religious- so does that make him an evil man? Does being an Athiest (sp?) make you better than him? hm
"jesus fuck, are you morons seriously going to bitch at france when they are doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS WE ARE? the french are unwilling to look at any proposal that has a deadline on it, and the united states has already set its own personal deadline, completely ignoring the protests of the other members of the UN."
They are mostly blocking the resolution because they get BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM IRAQ. So is China and Russia. GEE... So now it all makes sense?
"this fucking stupid xenophobic crap has to stop. what you people dont seem to understand is that we are part of a GLOBAL ECONOMY. if the united states essentially told everyone to go fuck themselves, the way you are suggesting, our economy would disappear. the depression is a cakewalk compared to the mess we would have on our hands. you know why the united states can afford all the ridiculous luxuries that it has? BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILT IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES BY PEOPLE WHO EARN $0.50 A DAY AND CONSIDER THEMSELVES FORTUNATE."
Please give me the percentage of the US Economy, being built on these third world countries... then maybe i can see your argument. Thanks.
"it's already started too. look at mexico. two years ago, we would have had thier vote before great britian's, and now? vincente has basically told us to shove it thanks to bushes position on immigration. THERE IS A DIRECT NEGATIVE RESULT OF PRESIDENT RETARD'S MIGHTY FOREIGN POLICY."
Okay...?
"i wish you fucking zealots could step back and look at the big picture. every announcement by bush's cabinet sends the stock market plummeting, every speech that he mentions his personal faith as guidance scares the international community further from us, especially the communities that dont pray to jebus."
So the economy is low because of the Bush Administartion?
Again.. False.
Tell me the powers of the president... and you'll see "regulating and controlling stock market" not being in there.
If some Democrate was president... guess what? The economy would be exactly the same. Enron would have still happened... 9/11 would have still happened... But unlike Bush - perhaps the Democrate would sit there and say.. okay- lets not take out threats and just sit here and wait for another 9/11.
"if you jackoffs want to have the trump card in this debate, i suggest you sign up for the military branch of your choice, go over to iraq, and kill a few iraqi soldiers in cold blood. you come back with that weight on your souls and you can shut me up. until then, you are hoping and praying that this will turn out all right, and that afterwards, bush will be able to save our eroding economy."
And I am sure if we didn't go to war, in a couple years you can watch tv, turn on whatever news channel you enjoy, and see pictures of dead bodies everywhere, chemical weapons falling from the sky coming from Iraq on some American Embassy, and then you could tell me that with that weight on your soul and you can shut me up.
It has been proven that Al-Qaeda and Iraq do business, its fact Iraq has unaccounted for WMD. So it is only a matter of time unless we do something.
"look at fucking britian, TONLY BLAIR, ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PRIME MINISTERS SINCE CHURCHILL has 19% of the UK's support for the war. members of his cabinet are threatening to resign. you know what happens to a prime minister that no one likes? they evict his sorry ass. and it doesnt take 4 years either."
19... give me proof buddy.
Its Blair's job to ensure the safety of Britan and thats just what he's gonna do when he sends 25,000+ soldiers into Iraq.
-The quote-
Yes- you see that proves a very good point-
We are giving him LOTS of chances.
1) Arabs say- "saddam- leave the country" then there will be no war and you and your people will be saved from war!
2) As said- Admit you have the WMD to your people, then you can evert war!
And many more chances
But he CHOSES NOT TO.
I mean he HAS SO MANY CHANCES TO AVOID THIS WAR.
Think about it.
All he has to say is... "I have them."
But no- he's a dictator who loves his palaces and doesnt care about his people starving in the streets.
He could change all that...
"stop the pretense. just say it. if you could admit that you could really give a shit about the state of the world, the fact that this is going to have political reverberations that last for YEARS. just fucking say it. you know you want to.
I LIKE MY WAR BLOODY AND ON CNN."
I dont think i will, because trust me- this war will be pretty quick, half the Iraqi military will surrender quickly.... and it'll be for the betterment of the world. I dont see the problem with that. A threat will be nutralized. Done deal.. Good.
But like I said- you're just whinning and I find it on a scale of humour.
yeat182
03/13/03, 06:39 PM
yeah seriously, how many chances does saddam need? it didn't take 12 years for the Ukraine and South Africa to get rid of their WMD's, they cooperated with the inspectors and volunteered all their info. I mean you could follow their lead and maybe, had you done this 12 years ago, you wouldn't be on the brink of being overthrown, or you could be saddam and say, fuck'em, and face the worlds most powerful army.
Justin_stacy
03/13/03, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by dep_rules
funny lincolns wife owned slaves.
also the emancipation proclamation didnt actually free any slaves. it said that if you killed your master or got away you were free. slaves werent quite free until after the war, and it was just really to gain support. slavery was a minor issue for the civil war really. some slaves even remained slaves until after the war, and had to be forcefully freed by the military from their masters.
The emancipation proclamation freed slaves only in confederacy, but who could enforce? What it didn't do was free the slaves in the border states who sided with the Union. So it didn't exactly free any one.
your moms hot
03/14/03, 03:06 PM
republican party - founded to stop the spread of slavery...lincoln was willing to let it stay where it was established...to do otherwise at the time period would have been political suicide.
sure..republicans gave blacks the right to vote..but thats only so they could remain in power during the post civil war years...because the overwhelming majority of blacks voted for their supposed "emancipators" even though it was all for politics...dont think that youre leaders are as morally upstanding as we all would like to be. theyre politicans..they do whatever needs to be done to stay in office.
Justin_stacy
03/14/03, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by your moms hot
republican party - founded to stop the spread of slavery...lincoln was willing to let it stay where it was established...to do otherwise at the time period would have been political suicide.
sure..republicans gave blacks the right to vote..but thats only so they could remain in power during the post civil war years...because the overwhelming majority of blacks voted for their supposed "emancipators" even though it was all for politics...dont think that youre leaders are as morally upstanding as we all would like to be. theyre politicans..they do whatever needs to be done to stay in office.
Actually Republicans also gave African Americans the right to vote in the 60's too.
Jim Morgan
03/14/03, 05:52 PM
the emancipation proclamation was actually a BRIBE to get the south to rejoin the union. Lincoln gave the south 100 days(til jan 1st of the new year) to rejoin or all the slaves would be freed.
EXCEPT
In Delaware, Kansas, Maryland, and Missouri., and several other select areas.
Reason Being:
Lincoln didn't want these 4 "border states" who did not secede with the rest of the south, but were slave states to secede and give the south more power. Lincoln never cared about slavery and had no interest in dealing with it.
dorkisme123
03/16/03, 07:15 AM
To the person who started this thread : Your post was ignorance.
On the subject of France, does anyone really know why France is anti-war? Not because they want peace, I can tell you that. Jacques Chirac was nicknamed "Jacques Iraq" because of his close relationship with Iraq and Saddam. This happened when Chirac was mayor of Paris and the French premier.
"It's almost as though Iraq is France's #1 trading partner for oil and weapons. Chirac knows these Inspector Clouseaus will never uncover any evidence of his personal hand in arming Saddam, which is why he wants them given endless amounts of time. If Chirac was involved with that reactor and trying to get 93% enriched uranium to Saddam, then there's evidence to prove it, which we'll find if we invade. This is one of the things he's obviously trying to hide. The so-called idea that "it's just the French and they're pacifists" or trying to seek power at the EU may be true, but it doesn't explain this irrational behavior and the temper tantrums by Chirac - this news does." -Rush Limbaugh
This info however did not come from Limbaugh alone, it was first reported on Stratfor.com.
The Nephilm
03/16/03, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by dorkisme123
To the person who started this thread : Your post was ignorance.
On the subject of France, does anyone really know why France is anti-war? Not because they want peace, I can tell you that. Jacques Chirac was nicknamed "Jacques Iraq" because of his close relationship with Iraq and Saddam. This happened when Chirac was mayor of Paris and the French premier.
"It's almost as though Iraq is France's #1 trading partner for oil and weapons. Chirac knows these Inspector Clouseaus will never uncover any evidence of his personal hand in arming Saddam, which is why he wants them given endless amounts of time. If Chirac was involved with that reactor and trying to get 93% enriched uranium to Saddam, then there's evidence to prove it, which we'll find if we invade. This is one of the things he's obviously trying to hide. The so-called idea that "it's just the French and they're pacifists" or trying to seek power at the EU may be true, but it doesn't explain this irrational behavior and the temper tantrums by Chirac - this news does." -Rush Limbaugh
This info however did not come from Limbaugh alone, it was first reported on Stratfor.com.
I know my post is ignorance because you don't agree with it. Wow.
And I never said a fucking thing about France's reasons for not wanting to start WWIII. I simply stated the fact that they are doing the SAME FUCKING THING THAT THE US IS DOING, and you assholes are so stubborn that the minute anyone opposes your ideas you resort to innane tactics like changing french fries to "freedom" fries. (hey and look you did it by calling me ignorant)
And for fucks sake don't post anything by that backwater hick Rush Limbaugh.
dorkisme123
03/16/03, 09:01 AM
No, actually your post is ignorance because you make generalizations about a group of people. Also known as stereotyping.
Justin_stacy
03/16/03, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
And for fucks sake don't post anything by that backwater hick Rush Limbaugh.
So every one thats not sided with you backwards ways is a "backwater hick" right?
The Nephilm
03/16/03, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Justin_stacy
So every one thats not sided with you backwards ways is a "backwater hick" right?
I have a personal hatred for that particular Nazi. I refrain from name calling on this board until it is done to me.
The Nephilm
03/16/03, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by dorkisme123
No, actually your post is ignorance because you make generalizations about a group of people. Also known as stereotyping.
How exactly am I generalizing? I summed up EVERY ARGUMENT that has been made on this board to attack Iraq. I wasn't generalizing. I summed up their "facts". You sure you know the meaning of the word?
Justin_stacy
03/16/03, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
I have a personal hatred for that particular Nazi. I refrain from name calling on this board until it is done to me.
So hes a Nazis, thats great well thought out, proof?
ps That would be like me calling you Stalin because your leftest liberal.
The Nephilm
03/16/03, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Justin_stacy
So hes a Nazis, thats great well thought out, proof?
ps That would be like me calling you Stalin because your leftest liberal.
just accept my extreme exaggerations ok?
Justin_stacy
03/16/03, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
just accept my extreme exaggerations ok?
Cool, and i to will refrain from name calling too.
your moms hot
03/16/03, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Actually Republicans also gave African Americans the right to vote in the 60's too.
but wait? didnt blacks already HAVE the right to vote? what good would giving them a right they already had do?
WithStamin
03/16/03, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by your moms hot
but wait? didnt blacks already HAVE the right to vote? what good would giving them a right they already had do? Maybe the abolition of Jim Crow laws, which restricted blacks from voting? I'm really not sure what he's talking about there.
Justin_stacy
03/16/03, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by your moms hot
but wait? didnt blacks already HAVE the right to vote? what good would giving them a right they already had do?
Oh i forgot your the one who doesn't know history. See in the south there were these people called DixieCrats (or southern democrates) who didn't like black people voting, so they used poll taxes, literacy test, and other things to keep them from voting.
So the voting rights act of 1965 was passed which,
"empowered the federal government to oversee voter registration and elections in counties that had used tests to determine voter eligibility or where registration or turnout had been less than 50 percent in the 1964 presidential election. It also banned discriminatory literacy tests and expanded voting rights for non-English speaking Americans."
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/voting/intro/intro_b.htm
Justin_stacy
03/16/03, 08:49 PM
sorry about being a jerk above, i've just got a problem with smart asses.
I'll try to make the rest of my comments less hostile.
savestheglory
03/18/03, 04:58 PM
hahaah
i read the first three paragraph and started laughing, i'm not going to waste my time reading the rest of it because it's all wrong and completely skewed... i know your trying to be a big boy and delve into the world of politics but you dont really understand what's going on and we don't need you to try and "sum up" all the biased material you've been fed by CNN... so why dont you go to iraq if you hate us so much... because chances are we are going to have a string of Republican presidents from now on, after the us has seen what a real presidential leader looks like compared to bill clinton
haha
The Nephilm
03/18/03, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by savestheglory
hahaah
i read the first three paragraph and started laughing, i'm not going to waste my time reading the rest of it because it's all wrong and completely skewed... i know your trying to be a big boy and delve into the world of politics but you dont really understand what's going on and we don't need you to try and "sum up" all the biased material you've been fed by CNN... so why dont you go to iraq if you hate us so much... because chances are we are going to have a string of Republican presidents from now on, after the us has seen what a real presidential leader looks like compared to bill clinton
haha
god you are a fucking idiot
to start, since you didn't bother to read my thread, i will never again adress you with any civilty.
secondly, CNN is fucking RIGHT WINGED you dumb ass. i don't watch it, as it is an american biased program, and don't even try to fucking tell me that during times of conflict for-profit media isn't biased towards the ruling party.
why don't I go to Iraq? why didn't you leave the country when Clinton was president? Because I love my friends and family here. Disagreeing with a fucking chimp in office doesn't mean that I don't love where I am from. I have just as much national pride as the next person, but where I differ from them is that I understand what a fucking shit hole our government has become. You however, lack the ability to see that for some reason.
In a recent poll (no i'm too lazy to find the link) the majority of the population said that they WOULD NOT re-elect Bush. A string of republican presidents? And a real leader? The fucking guy is a puppet for big business and chaney is pulling the strings. EVERYONE in america realizes what a duche he is, the only reason his approval polls are so high is due to us being in a time of conflict. come election time if the US isn't at war (i'm sure Bush and his cabinet will try real fucking hard to be) there isn't a hope in hell of Bush being elected... unless of course he gets handed the job by the supreme court, again.
yeat182
03/18/03, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
god you are a fucking idiot
to start, since you didn't bother to read my thread, i will never again adress you with any civilty.
secondly, CNN is fucking RIGHT WINGED you dumb ass. i don't watch it, as it is an american biased program, and don't even try to fucking tell me that during times of conflict for-profit media isn't biased towards the ruling party.
why don't I go to Iraq? why didn't you leave the country when Clinton was president? Because I love my friends and family here. Disagreeing with a fucking chimp in office doesn't mean that I don't love where I am from. I have just as much national pride as the next person, but where I differ from them is that I understand what a fucking shit hole our government has become. You however, lack the ability to see that for some reason.
In a recent poll (no i'm too lazy to find the link) the majority of the population said that they WOULD NOT re-elect Bush. A string of republican presidents? And a real leader? The fucking guy is a puppet for big business and chaney is pulling the strings. EVERYONE in america realizes what a duche he is, the only reason his approval polls are so high is due to us being in a time of conflict. come election time if the US isn't at war (i'm sure Bush and his cabinet will try real fucking hard to be) there isn't a hope in hell of Bush being elected... unless of course he gets handed the job by the supreme court, again.
it is a shame that bush will get the repbulican nomination again, i would really like to see Sen. Mccain as a president...
EmoMoose86
03/18/03, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
god you are a fucking idiot
to start, since you didn't bother to read my thread, i will never again adress you with any civilty.
secondly, CNN is fucking RIGHT WINGED you dumb ass. i don't watch it, as it is an american biased program, and don't even try to fucking tell me that during times of conflict for-profit media isn't biased towards the ruling party.
why don't I go to Iraq? why didn't you leave the country when Clinton was president? Because I love my friends and family here. Disagreeing with a fucking chimp in office doesn't mean that I don't love where I am from. I have just as much national pride as the next person, but where I differ from them is that I understand what a fucking shit hole our government has become. You however, lack the ability to see that for some reason.
In a recent poll (no i'm too lazy to find the link) the majority of the population said that they WOULD NOT re-elect Bush. A string of republican presidents? And a real leader? The fucking guy is a puppet for big business and chaney is pulling the strings. EVERYONE in america realizes what a duche he is, the only reason his approval polls are so high is due to us being in a time of conflict. come election time if the US isn't at war (i'm sure Bush and his cabinet will try real fucking hard to be) there isn't a hope in hell of Bush being elected... unless of course he gets handed the job by the supreme court, again.
Do you watch the news at all then - since you seem to have a problem with all of it... What channel do you watch? Or perhaps you dont watch or read any news because of its "biased" opinoun and just think up the complex reasoning of global affairs (this would explain a lot- since you make little sense)
Fact is- after this war when they find all the WMD that you say arent there- and people see Bush was actually right... he'll be re-elected. When people see good results- they re-elect presidents. This war- will have that result. Just watch it on the news (wait- no sorry... you don't watch news)
I would love to hear how you think the United States should be- that would be an amusing read.
The Nephilm
03/18/03, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by EmoMoose86
Do you watch the news at all then - since you seem to have a problem with all of it... What channel do you watch? Or perhaps you dont watch or read any news because of its "biased" opinoun and just think up the complex reasoning of global affairs (this would explain a lot- since you make little sense)
Fact is- after this war when they find all the WMD that you say arent there- and people see Bush was actually right... he'll be re-elected. When people see good results- they re-elect presidents. This war- will have that result. Just watch it on the news (wait- no sorry... you don't watch news)
I would love to hear how you think the United States should be- that would be an amusing read.
I watch BBC world news if I ever turn on the TV. It is a lot less biased than racist American wight-winged crap.
And I READ non-profit news sources. They do exist, although I won't even bother pointing them out because we have already established that the only thing you ever watch is CNN to see those "sand-******s" blown to pieces.
And if you want to know what I think the country should be like, go study, all sum it up in two words. No Corruption. I'll be happy to write something up later, but I have to go get laid now. Have fun masterbating.
BrandNewRock05
03/18/03, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
I watch BBC world news if I ever turn on the TV. It is a lot less biased than racist American wight-winged crap.
And I READ non-profit news sources. They do exist, although I won't even bother pointing them out because we have already established that the only thing you ever watch is CNN to see those "sand-******s" blown to pieces.
And if you want to know what I think the country should be like, go study, all sum it up in two words. No Corruption. I'll be happy to write something up later, but I have to go get laid now. Have fun masterbating.
Please tell me of the wonderful "non biased, non profit papers" because I really would like to see them. Maybe if Tinkerbell will sprikle me with pixie dust I can fly to Neverland and find them. Maybe while I'm there I can check out their No Corruption government and we can all smoke weed and have sex, but no worries, because we can have an abortion if someone gets pregnant, and to fund it we will just take money from the rich. And I find "sand-******s" offensive. It ties the Iraqi's in with the black population which I find to be unfair. You should referr to them as "camel-jockies" or "rag-heads". And next time find a better insult than "go ge laid" it doesnt hold much water when the only chick you have had is palm-ala hand-erson, yeah that was kind of lame, but so is "have fun masturbating"
EmoMoose86
03/18/03, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
secondly, CNN is fucking RIGHT WINGED you dumb ass.
from an earlier post:
Originally posted by BurnFromWithin
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/22/rkelly.accusations/index.html
ah hypocrate!
and..
Originally posted by The Nephilm
to see those "sand-******s" blown to pieces.
are you a racist now?
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