The Pre-Sale Password = Fall Out

[Rohan Kohli]

Pre-sale tickets for the "Black Clouds and Underdogs" tour are available right here (http://www.falloutboy.tickets.musictoday.c om/FallOutBoy/calendar.aspx). The tour features Fall Out Boy, Hawthorne Heights, The All-American Rejects, From First to Last, The Hush Sound (March 15th through April 19th), and October Fall (the 20th through the end of the tour).

[fromwithin]

yes! my ticket to get out of debt! woooooo!

[dukeboy1986]

no your ticket to get INTO debt

[fromwithin]

no your ticket to get INTO debt

apparently you have never heard of ebay.

[jfb392]

$30?
Probably not.
Rohan, I see you're listening to the new MBR also.
Thoughts?

[dukeboy1986]

I highly doubt many of these shows will sell out. Some of the venues are 10000+ seats.

[xTJx]

Are these tickets going to be cheaper than regular tickets or what? 40$ a ticket is kinda steep..

[dukeboy1986]

I don't know the tickets are between like 27-33 dollars. So if you get them via the regular Ticketmaster site, probably so.

[Drew Beringer]

So are these all the confimed dates?

[dukeboy1986]

So are these all the confimed dates?

yes

[fromwithin]

I highly doubt many of these shows will sell out. Some of the venues are 10000+ seats.

General Admission dumbass. All the little girls will want to be up front on the floor.

[RockVocalPower]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSAA:US:11&item=4817536086

[fromwithin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSAA:US:11&item=4817536086

i bought that for $12 and that's the reason why. I was thinking of packaging it with the tickets.

[trjlangdon]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSAA:US:11&item=4817536086

wtf, I could have swore I saw one or two of these at best buy over winter break

[TommyGunn]

Fall Out Boy is soooo fucking outplayed and annoying.

(very few people will probably get this)

[PunkNews.Org]

all they need now is aiden!

ROFL

amirite or amirite

[chokeychicken]

i'm telling you, you guys are getting yourself into a huge headache if you think you're going to just buy tickets for this tour and re-sell them for huge profits. its just not going to happen. because everybody else has the same idea as you.

i'm a pro broker, and i only picked up a THREE dates on this tour; and they weren't in big markets.

have a fun time with the undercutting rookies, though.

[noles05]

people are crazy. http://cgi.ebay.com/FALL-OUT-BOYS-TICKETS-PRESALE-PASSWORD-LOS-ANGELES-CA_W0QQitemZ6596370487QQcategoryZ13 06QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[weezer182]

im gonna have to pass on this one

[Nate_RAWKS]

im gonna have to pass on this one


Ditto.

[HashHolly]

people are crazy. http://cgi.ebay.com/FALL-OUT-BOYS-TICKETS-PRESALE-PASSWORD-LOS-ANGELES-CA_W0QQitemZ6596370487QQcategoryZ13 06QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

in retaliation i did this...

http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=118351367&site=0&ver=LCA080805&item=6596515333&lk=URL

[noles05]

in retaliation i did this...

http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=118351367&site=0&ver=LCA080805&item=6596515333&lk=URL

haha, nice

[Rohan Kohli]

people are crazy. http://cgi.ebay.com/FALL-OUT-BOYS-TICKETS-PRESALE-PASSWORD-LOS-ANGELES-CA_W0QQitemZ6596370487QQcategoryZ13 06QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That's really, really lame.

[Nate_RAWKS]

in retaliation i did this...

http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=118351367&site=0&ver=LCA080805&item=6596515333&lk=URL


haha...nice job...damn!! now i'll never make that $1.99 i need.

[fromwithin]

i'm telling you, you guys are getting yourself into a huge headache if you think you're going to just buy tickets for this tour and re-sell them for huge profits. its just not going to happen. because everybody else has the same idea as you.

i'm a pro broker, and i only picked up a THREE dates on this tour; and they weren't in big markets.

have a fun time with the undercutting rookies, though.

well kids are obviously going to want general admission so how is that a bad idea? tickets for nintendo fusion went like crazy and I don't see it subsiding. I got 5 cities, 2 small and 3 large. The three large are all on weekend nights when kids are most likely to go to shows. I don't see how its so bad.

[mykelefty]

hmmmm... what cities are ya'll buying for.

[chcougar1]

haha...and actually fall out is the FOB site password......Dome Direct is the specific password for that Tacoma Dome presale:) have fun kiddies:)

[gengen]

im stuck w/ october fall! arg. have to get there late then.

[robdobi]

my mom is really excited for the bridgeport show because i'm gonna have some (big) work on display.

also, anyone hear sugar being played on the commercial for boston legal?

[noles05]

my mom is really excited for the bridgeport show because i'm gonna have some (big) work on display.

also, anyone hear sugar being played on the commercial for boston legal?

yeah, it's very...random?

[Drew Beringer]

my mom is really excited for the bridgeport show because i'm gonna have some (big) work on display.

also, anyone hear sugar being played on the commercial for boston legal?

Haha, that's awesome for you and your mom. I bet all the other moms of 14 year old girls are like "Shiiiit, fuckin Fall Out Boys are back, now I gotta go to this concert again!"

[Drew Beringer]

wtf, I could have swore I saw one or two of these at best buy over winter break

Haha, I know, I should have bought it when I had the chance. :-\

[wesgemm08]

i'm telling you, you guys are getting yourself into a huge headache if you think you're going to just buy tickets for this tour and re-sell them for huge profits. its just not going to happen. because everybody else has the same idea as you.

i'm a pro broker, and i only picked up a THREE dates on this tour; and they weren't in big markets.

have a fun time with the undercutting rookies, though.

it's ticket scalping scumbags like you that ruin popular music... hey lets set up a computer system so we can order all the front row seats for rolling stones, bruce springsteen, etc. etc. in 5 seconds and then charge ridiculous amounts of money for them...

[Deborah Remus]

http://www.petitiononline.com/g9t5h3sp/petition.html

If you guys could sign this petition to get this tour to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, that would be awesome.

Thank you.

[wesgemm08]

well kids are obviously going to want general admission so how is that a bad idea? tickets for nintendo fusion went like crazy and I don't see it subsiding. I got 5 cities, 2 small and 3 large. The three large are all on weekend nights when kids are most likely to go to shows. I don't see how its so bad.

I have an idea, get a job

[RockVocalPower]

http://www.petitiononline.com/g9t5h3sp/petition.html

If you guys could sign this petition to get this tour to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, that would be awesome.

Thank you.


Awww.

How sad.

[fromwithin]

I have an idea, get a job

i would if someone would hire me.

[AHMYBRAIN]

No thanks.

[chokeychicken]

it's ticket scalping scumbags like you that ruin popular music... hey lets set up a computer system so we can order all the front row seats for rolling stones, bruce springsteen, etc. etc. in 5 seconds and then charge ridiculous amounts of money for them...

I have an idea, get a job

First of all, fuck you. You're an ignorant piece of shit. And I say that for many reasons.

First of all, by "set up a computer system," i'm assume you mean I have some special software that allows me to get better seats than anybody else. WRONG. I buy tickets the same way as everybody else - the difference is, I know what the hell I'm doing, and when everything goes on sale, both of which are from public information and experierience. I've been doing this about 3 years, and it's a full time job for me. I spent 40 hours (at least, usually more) researching tickets and ticket sales, and everything else. I pay taxes, I have a business license, I'm in college, and chances are, I make a shitload more than you (or your parents) do.

I do the same thing every single fan does - buy tickets from Ticketmaster.com or Tickets.com. I just know about presales, when stuff goes on sale, how Ticketmaster works, when Tickets get re-released, etc, etc, etc. All of this comes from hard work, research, and experience.

But I love it how people complain than the academy is tour in their area is sold out - with the exception for new york city, these shows were on sale for WEEKS before they sold out - plenty of time for anybody who "likes" a band as much as they claim to pick up tickets. People are just lazy, and think they're hte only person in the world who likes a certain band. And that laziness and ignorance forces them to pay a premium to see a band they want to see.

Second, how is ticket scalping not a real job? Ticket brokers provide a service to people who need it - just like anything else. And just like anything else, people pay a premium price for somebody to provide them with a serivce that they cannot do themselves.

So what's the difference between me providing you tickets for an academy is show and marking them up and your automechanic charging you to fix your car and jacking up the price of labor and parts?

Same fucking thing. People just get pissed off because the general public is willing to dish out so much cash for good seats to a sold out show.

I spend hours doing what I do; I have clients, customers, and business accounts. Think about that at work tomrorow, while you're bagging groceries, asshole.

[PunkNews.Org]

chokeychicken, you're a tool

[chokeychicken]

and the replies system at your website sucks dick. can we come to an agreement?

[Phil507]

You guys are still scumbags for ripping people off. But on another note, All-American Rejects are playing over Hawthorne Heights right? I mean, that would just be sad if they went on before HH.

[chcougar1]

chokey...

im just curious....when there is a limit on how many tickets one can buy do you make seperate accounts so you can get more some how?

[BrandNizzle182]

I spend hours doing what I do; I have clients, customers, and business accounts. Think about that at work tomrorow, while you're bagging groceries, asshole.

i second that you are a fucking douche for doing this. people like you are the reason it cost 200 dollars to go to the blink 2 dollar bill shows. youre talking shit about this person for having a real job when you are stealing from kids who just want to see their favorite bands. you can fuck off.

[pretty_in_punk3]

that tour is gonna be insanely huge...even bigger than nitendo fusion i bet....crazy...

[chokeychicken]

i second that you are a fucking douche for doing this. people like you are the reason it cost 200 dollars to go to the blink 2 dollar bill shows. youre talking shit about this person for having a real job when you are stealing from kids who just want to see their favorite bands. you can fuck off.

if kids wanted to see their favorite band so bad, they would buy tickets when they're on-sale. We have the exact same chance of getting good seats as you do - we just do it more often.

sounds to me like you're just a bitter jackass who got shut out of the 2 dollar bill tour, and now that blink is gone, you want to blame scalpers.

yeah, because we were the only ones buying tickets. nice logic.

[punkrockcasual]

GA for an arena tour? Weird.

[XCuT My WrIsTsX]

if kids wanted to see their favorite band so bad, they would buy tickets when they're on-sale. We have the exact same chance of getting good seats as you do - we just do it more often.

sounds to me like you're just a bitter jackass who got shut out of the 2 dollar bill tour, and now that blink is gone, you want to blame scalpers.

yeah, because we were the only ones buying tickets. nice logic.

how does one obtain the skills that you have?

[XCuT My WrIsTsX]

you might think i'm joking - but hard work and experience. i've been doing this since i was in high school, and i spend 8 or 9 hours a day at "work", doing research and such. people thing its a slackass job, when in reality, i do more work than most people do at their day jobs.

Um, CoUlD YoU LyKe ExPlAiN a DaYs WoRk To Me?:)

[PunkNews.Org]

there's a lot of kids here with some questionable taste in music (that's being nice), but chokey chicken is, hands down, the biggest tool on this site

[itsjdiggity]

if kids wanted to see their favorite band so bad, they would buy tickets when they're on-sale. We have the exact same chance of getting good seats as you do - we just do it more often.

sounds to me like you're just a bitter jackass who got shut out of the 2 dollar bill tour, and now that blink is gone, you want to blame scalpers.

yeah, because we were the only ones buying tickets. nice logic.

i guess i'm the first person to back you on this...

keep up the good work

[chokeychicken]

oh scott - don't you have anything better to do than critisize people who have similiar taste in music to you?

[wesgemm08]

First of all, fuck you. You're an ignorant piece of shit. And I say that for many reasons.

First of all, by "set up a computer system," i'm assume you mean I have some special software that allows me to get better seats than anybody else. WRONG. I buy tickets the same way as everybody else - the difference is, I know what the hell I'm doing, and when everything goes on sale, both of which are from public information and experierience. I've been doing this about 3 years, and it's a full time job for me. I spent 40 hours (at least, usually more) researching tickets and ticket sales, and everything else. I pay taxes, I have a business license, I'm in college, and chances are, I make a shitload more than you (or your parents) do.

I do the same thing every single fan does - buy tickets from Ticketmaster.com or Tickets.com. I just know about presales, when stuff goes on sale, how Ticketmaster works, when Tickets get re-released, etc, etc, etc. All of this comes from hard work, research, and experience.

But I love it how people complain than the academy is tour in their area is sold out - with the exception for new york city, these shows were on sale for WEEKS before they sold out - plenty of time for anybody who "likes" a band as much as they claim to pick up tickets. People are just lazy, and think they're hte only person in the world who likes a certain band. And that laziness and ignorance forces them to pay a premium to see a band they want to see.

Second, how is ticket scalping not a real job? Ticket brokers provide a service to people who need it - just like anything else. And just like anything else, people pay a premium price for somebody to provide them with a serivce that they cannot do themselves.

So what's the difference between me providing you tickets for an academy is show and marking them up and your automechanic charging you to fix your car and jacking up the price of labor and parts?

Same fucking thing. People just get pissed off because the general public is willing to dish out so much cash for good seats to a sold out show.

I spend hours doing what I do; I have clients, customers, and business accounts. Think about that at work tomrorow, while you're bagging groceries, asshole.
"Fuck you"...good start to arguing about your "work"

Secondly, I dont brag about my family income alot, but my parents make a hell of a lot more than you, trust me, we'll leave it at that.. and i will also make a hell of a lot more than a ticket "broker" when i am done with schooling

Thirdly, there is software some people use to get tickets, how do you think people get 1000's of rolling stone tickets right when they go on sale

Last, its not a real job, and I'm pretty sure marking tickets up and selling them for your own personal gain is illegal, and pisses people in the preforming bands off alot more than people downloading their music online, which is also illegal

And I dont bag groceries, I actually go to a great college and plan to go to a prestigious law school after I get my bachelor's degree

[gizmo6d9]

if kids wanted to see their favorite band so bad, they would buy tickets when they're on-sale. We have the exact same chance of getting good seats as you do - we just do it more often.

Well if you wouldn't buy all those tickets with no intent on going then that many more people could go for the RIGHT price.

[chokeychicken]

in most states, its not illegal. and in the states and it is illegal in, you can only sell them for a certain percentage over face value.

the only state that actually says you can't sell above face value is missouri.

and even then, the law only applies to people buying who live IN the state.

again, running your mouth about something you know nothing about.

[Slovo]

In other news: Lights and Sounds is a disappointment.

[wesgemm08]

in most states, its not illegal. and in the states and it is illegal in, you can only sell them for a certain percentage over face value.

the only state that actually says you can't sell above face value is missouri.

and even then, the law only applies to people buying who live IN the state.

again, running your mouth about something you know nothing about.
First off, even if it is not considered illegal, none of this changes the fact that you're a scumbag, and if you went up to the artists whom your scalping tickets to their shows and introduced yourself, they'd probably put their fist through your face

Secondly, running your mouth about something you know nothing about also refers to you attacking my famiy's income and my job...which you know nothing about

[chokeychicken]

while i sell tickets, i still support the bands i love. i buy merch at every show i go to, and buy CD's instead of downloading them. i drive long distances to see bands i love multiple times on tour...i've driven long distances to see bands i love; slept in my car, etc, etc, etc.

while they might hate me, they can only hate me so much. because i support them just as much as the next kid, if not more.

[wesgemm08]

while i sell tickets, i still support the bands i love. i buy merch at every show i go to, and buy CD's instead of downloading them. i drive long distances to see bands i love multiple times on tour...i've driven long distances to see bands i love; slept in my car, etc, etc, etc.

while they might hate me, they can only hate me so much. because i support them just as much as the next kid, if not more.
And you rip off their true fans that could be paying the right price for tickets


... supporting the bands you love doesnt change the fact that you are not only ripping off fans of other bands, but also the bands themselves

[over rated]

the sad part is is that people are actually paying the scalpers way too much for tickets. if people didn't over pay for tickets then scalpers would be out of business.

[wesgemm08]

I think one of the worst examples of scalping in this "scene", was people actually had the nerve to scalpe tickets to that tsunami relief show last year in NJ with Coheed and MCR and all those bands..

[hubbabubbal3ts]

this will be a tour i'm not going to be sad i missed. i like fob and aar but there is no way in hell i'd pay that much to see them play in an arena. and i don't want to have to watch fftl and hawthorne heights to see the others.

[dukeboy1986]

This whole ticket scalping thing is just ONE of many problems wrong with the music scene. Can't we all just get along and be ethical in our everyday lives? Of course the answer to this is no.

[FallingOut]

I cant believe this tour is coming to the place where I work. The biggest acts in the country come there, such as Dave Matthews Band, Phish, Ozzfest and whatnot. Im pretty surprised, but I get to see it for free now.

[dukeboy1986]

I cant believe this tour is coming to the place where I work. The biggest acts in the country come there, such as Dave Matthews Band, Phish, Ozzfest and whatnot. Im pretty surprised, but I get to see it for free now.

Thats awesome dude.

[dukeboy1986]

OH, and awesome picture of Lovedrug. They are definitely the best band out of Ohio. Hawthorne Heights is a freaking joke.

[TommyGunn]

anyone seen the new Fall Out Boy video?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4435593179243241083&q=fall+out+boy

[golly_sandra]

fuck you fuck you fuck you.
you shouldn't have posted the password.

[dubey]

Ticket scalpers are scum. I actually intended on buying tickets off them when I saw underoath a while back. The tickets were like twelve bucks or something and they wanted eighty. The band got us in for free eventhough I'm pretty sure the venue was over capacity. They said even they had problems getting into the club themselves.

If you look at the people who are selling these tickets, its not like they are doing anything with the money anyways to better their own self. They are just making money to support their drug and alcohol habits. All you can do is feel sorry for them,

[fromwithin]

Ticket scalpers are scum. I actually intended on buying tickets off them when I saw underoath a while back. The tickets were like twelve bucks or something and they wanted eighty. The band got us in for free eventhough I'm pretty sure the venue was over capacity. They said even they had problems getting into the club themselves.

If you look at the people who are selling these tickets, its not like they are doing anything with the money anyways to better their own self. They are just making money to support their drug and alcohol habits. All you can do is feel sorry for them,

here's a thought. underoath were around YEARS before they sold out shows, but I bet you didn't listen to them then.

I'm so sick of you kids putting down scalpers. If you had the opportunity and the drive to actually do it and make that kind of money you would so don't bitch and whine. Any money I have made has gone to paying off debt that a 20 year old person shouldn't have. I dont do drugs or alcohol, I just want to get back to zero. I don't understand what's so wrong with that, wanting to actually get on with my life. I'm sorry that all you kids have parents that put your asses through college or bail you out of every stupid situation you get into. Normal people don't have that kind of luxury and try to make money for themselves.

[Rohan Kohli]

here's a thought. underoath were around YEARS before they sold out shows, but I bet you didn't listen to them then.

I'm so sick of you kids putting down scalpers. If you had the opportunity and the drive to actually do it and make that kind of money you would so don't bitch and whine. Any money I have made has gone to paying off debt that a 20 year old person shouldn't have. I dont do drugs or alcohol, I just want to get back to zero. I don't understand what's so wrong with that, wanting to actually get on with my life. I'm sorry that all you kids have parents that put your asses through college or bail you out of every stupid situation you get into. Normal people don't have that kind of luxury and try to make money for themselves.

But you're doing it at the expense of others.

[Ambulance X]

It's the tour from hell...

[fromwithin]

But you're doing it at the expense of others.

It's not like we live under a rock. There's so many tools to get info of when tickets will go on sale, how big a venue is, etc. There have been shows I haven't been able to go to and I've sold those tickets and made a profit, is that wrong when I clearly planned on going to the show? I still go to shows at fire halls and small clubs which never sell out unless a really BIG band comes, and even then 50% of the tickets sold are at the door, day of show.

Downloading music is stealing at the expense of the artist, but nothing is said about that. I have been on both ends of the scalper pole, and its due to laziness. I didn't buy tickets to nintendo fusion fast enough and I had to get them on ebay for 4 times the price. A few years ago with weezer/saves the day, I wanted front row and I paid $100 a ticket for that. This is why I don't feel bad. If I want to go to a show, I'll go. Just like these kids that don't get the tickets fast enough, they'll tug on mommy or beg to daddy's credit card and they'll get their shot. It's not like hundreds and thousands of superfans are being closed off from seeing their favorite band, most likely they tour again and they'll get another chance to see them. The only circumstance I could see it being questionable is in the case of a reunion/final show.

[Rohan Kohli]

It's not like we live under a rock. There's so many tools to get info of when tickets will go on sale, how big a venue is, etc. There have been shows I haven't been able to go to and I've sold those tickets and made a profit, is that wrong when I clearly planned on going to the show? I still go to shows at fire halls and small clubs which never sell out unless a really BIG band comes, and even then 50% of the tickets sold are at the door, day of show.

Downloading music is stealing at the expense of the artist, but nothing is said about that. I have been on both ends of the scalper pole, and its due to laziness. I didn't buy tickets to nintendo fusion fast enough and I had to get them on ebay for 4 times the price. A few years ago with weezer/saves the day, I wanted front row and I paid $100 a ticket for that. This is why I don't feel bad. If I want to go to a show, I'll go. Just like these kids that don't get the tickets fast enough, they'll tug on mommy or beg to daddy's credit card and they'll get their shot. It's not like hundreds and thousands of superfans are being closed off from seeing their favorite band, most likely they tour again and they'll get another chance to see them. The only circumstance I could see it being questionable is in the case of a reunion/final show.

No, it's not wrong when you planned on going to the show and couldn't make it, and then sold it. But I would hope that you have the decency to sell it for face value or just a little bit above. And just because you're willing to shell out the cash when you don't buy tickets fast enough doesn't mean that other kids who can't afford the show can do the same. Buying tickets with the intent of selling it higher than face value is shitty. I don't care if it's illegal or not. It's just plain shitty.

[dubcey]

No one understands economics. No one is getting ripped off in the process of ticket scalping. The consumers have a certain willingness to pay for these tickets, if they didn't, then they wouldn't buy them. It's that simple.

Even if scalpers didn't exist, many concerts would still sell out. People who were not fortunate enough to get tickets would go to the show, and attempt to buy tickets from people in line. Certain people might be willing to sell their tickets, because in theory, everything has an assumed value for each individual. The tickets would be sold in a similar fashion.

Ticket scalping helps display how truly passionate some people are about bands. People willing to pay extreme prices says alot about a bands' following. However, if the consumers are willing, there is nothing to prevent these behaviors, it's human nature, everything has a price.

[macius]

I'm not sure if it's like this in big cities only , but whats with all the homeless looking black guys asking people for tickets on as their going to shows? Has anyone actually ever given them a ticket? They piss me off.

And FOB at UIC Pavillion is crazy.. that place is huge. I'm surprised they didn't do two or three nights at the Aragon or something like that. UIC isnt a place for a FOB show.

[Rohan Kohli]

No one understands economics. No one is getting ripped off in the process of ticket scalping. The consumers have a certain willingness to pay for these tickets, if they didn't, then they wouldn't buy them. It's that simple.

Even if scalpers didn't exist, many concerts would still sell out. People who were not fortunate enough to get tickets would go to the show, and attempt to buy tickets from people in line. Certain people might be willing to sell their tickets, because in theory, everything has an assumed value for each individual. The tickets would be sold in a similar fashion.

Ticket scalping helps display how truly passionate some people are about bands. People willing to pay extreme prices says alot about a bands' following. However, if the consumers are willing, there is nothing to prevent these behaviors, it's human nature, everything has a price.

I'm an economics major. I never said that's not the way it works. I just think it's unethical.

[dubcey]

Study up, if that's unethical, then any business is unethical.

[Rohan Kohli]

Study up, if that's unethical, then any business is unethical.

Whatever. If you don't think it's unethical, then nothing I'm gonna say will change your mind.

You might argue that it's a sign that bands should raise ticket prices if people are willing to pay such high prices, but they keep it low for a reason--so that people who don't have all the money in the world might have a chance of seeing the show. Scalpers are exploiting that.

[dubcey]

Yea, scalpers do drive up prices, it's nice to see Fall Out Boy keeping the prices low for this tour. I think the people who are really concerned about the prices would be the ones waiting when they go on sale to make sure they get their tickets. If they are unable to do so, they may find themselves unable to go to shows if they can't pay the inflated prices, that sucks, agreed.

I just don't see anything unethical for accepting more money for a ticket than you payed. Accepting rather than charging, since the consumer is willing.

We have different opinions on ethics, your point is seen.

[Rohan Kohli]

Yea, scalpers do drive up prices, it's nice to see Fall Out Boy keeping the prices low for this tour. I think the people who are really concerned about the prices would be the ones waiting when they go on sale to make sure they get their tickets. If they are unable to do so, they may find themselves unable to go to shows if they can't pay the inflated prices, that sucks, agreed.

I just don't see anything unethical for accepting more money for a ticket than you payed. Accepting rather than charging, since the consumer is willing.

We have different opinions on ethics, your point is seen.

I just think its unethical for scalpers to go out of their way to do that, to break some poor kid's heart, when that's not what the band wants at all. If someone has a ticket they need to sell because they find out at the last moment they can't go to the show, then yeah, that's fine--whoever wants it the most will get it. But scalpers have no intention of going to the show.

Glad we can agree to disagree though. That's rare around here.

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

http://www.petitiononline.com/g9t5h3sp/petition.html

If you guys could sign this petition to get this tour to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, that would be awesome.

Thank you.


fuck you...

[Nate_RAWKS]

I think one of the worst examples of scalping in this "scene", was people actually had the nerve to scalpe tickets to that tsunami relief show last year in NJ with Coheed and MCR and all those bands..


I saw numerous people scalping tickets to a Dashboard Confessional acoustic show in Toronto to Benefit the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Needless to say this made me sick to my stomach and i wanted to fuck up their faces with my foot.

I don't respect scalpers and never will.

[wesgemm08]

No one understands economics. No one is getting ripped off in the process of ticket scalping. The consumers have a certain willingness to pay for these tickets, if they didn't, then they wouldn't buy them. It's that simple.

Even if scalpers didn't exist, many concerts would still sell out. People who were not fortunate enough to get tickets would go to the show, and attempt to buy tickets from people in line. Certain people might be willing to sell their tickets, because in theory, everything has an assumed value for each individual. The tickets would be sold in a similar fashion.

Ticket scalping helps display how truly passionate some people are about bands. People willing to pay extreme prices says alot about a bands' following. However, if the consumers are willing, there is nothing to prevent these behaviors, it's human nature, everything has a price.

I never said anything about economics, all I said was people that scalp tickets are scumbags...and yes there is someone getting ripped off, the actual bands playing...