Dolphins trading Ricky?

[Caleb Cattivera]

heard a rumor on espn radio this morning that the Dolphins are talking to the Texans about sending Ricky Williams and a third round pick to the Texans for David Carr.

[getupkid53]

There's alot swirling about him. The dolphins want a QB... They've mentioned some up here in MN about Culpepper going down there for williams and some draft picks.. but with our new coach.. won't happen. I say Ricky's gone. There's a new horse in town. Carr and Williams both need a change of scenery, it may just work.

[fromwithin]

i don't care what anyone says, carr is the man. once he gets a fair shot at a decent season, maybe on a new team, he'll be great. i don't really see him doing well in miami though. so i guess that would mean the texans would take vince young even though he's going to be the biggest flop since tim couch.

[Trainsaw]

which qb would the texans take then?

[fromwithin]

which qb would the texans take then?

a free agent to get them through this year. and draft a decent 3rd round one, and use the early picks to take O-Linemen.

[mat1419]

then, who would the Texans have at QB and who would be the number 1 pick since the Texans then would have a running back alread

[bigmike]

a free agent to get them through this year. and draft a decent 3rd round one, and use the early picks to take O-Linemen.

nah, that's kind of logical.
I think if they don't take reggie bush, then they need to trade the pick.

and someone mentioned that Carr wouldn't do well in Miami... I don't see why not, it's already an upgrade if offensive lines, there for his numbers should improve.

[Trainsaw]

a free agent to get them through this year. and draft a decent 3rd round one, and use the early picks to take O-Linemen.
i don't see them using the 1st pick on a o lineman

[fromwithin]

i don't see them using the 1st pick on a o lineman

no they'd trade it, which i still think they'll do whether bush comes out or not. they can use the two picks they get for o-linemen or they might get a decent QB. I wouldn't mind seeing Culpepper in Houston.

[bigmike]

i don't see them using the 1st pick on a o lineman

you're right, they won't.
however, in most drafts, i think Ferguson out of VA would be a legit #1.

[G-Unit]

no bush? happy trails houston

[Spicoli hey bud]

David Carr is a good quarterback, this would be a good upgrade for Miami.

[Caleb Cattivera]

they were discussing about how down in houston there was a big push for vince young. that the texans would bush and trade him to whoever for young and a later pick.

the owners are really starting to listen to the people too from what some callers were saying.

[Spicoli hey bud]

honestly though, I just don't see how you can pass on Reggie Bush. He's the most hyped player in sports since Lebron.

[bigmike]

they were discussing about how down in houston there was a big push for vince young. that the texans would bush and trade him to whoever for young and a later pick.

the owners are really starting to listen to the people too from what some callers were saying.

that's stupid. don't draft someone with the sole intention of trading him, you then limit your possibilities, i think. If you're going to trade, then trade the pick.

but, you either take reggie bush, or you trade the pick.

[fromwithin]

honestly though, I just don't see how you can pass on Reggie Bush. He's the most hyped player in sports since Lebron.

if he had the numbers and size I could see it. we have yet to see how he'll do taking 30-40 carries a game in the NFL. I think most players in this draft are way overhyped. The Texans will screw themselves if they get rid of Carr and make Young their QB. Besides it doesn't matter how "good" Bush is, he has yet to play a down in the NFL. The texans already have a 1,000 yard rusher so its not like they have a hurt for that. If a team is willing to give them two first round picks I say they take them and get o linemen.

Young is going to be such a flop, the only reason these people want him is because he went to Texas and got them the national title.

[bigmike]

if he had the numbers and size I could see it. we have yet to see how he'll do taking 30-40 carries a game in the NFL. I think most players in this draft are way overhyped. The Texans will screw themselves if they get rid of Carr and make Young their QB. Besides it doesn't matter how "good" Bush is, he has yet to play a down in the NFL. The texans already have a 1,000 yard rusher so its not like they have a hurt for that. If a team is willing to give them two first round picks I say they take them and get o linemen.

Young is going to be such a flop, the only reason these people want him is because he went to Texas and got them the national title.

Young is overhyped.

however, this argument that bush is too small and hasn't carried the load yet by himself is flawed. didn't ronnie brown and williams split carries at auburn? so they must not be legit nfl RBs.

Bush is the type of player that doesn't need 30-40 carries to change a game, he's not that type of runner. he's the kid that can affect a game, and turn a game around, from about 18-20 touches. He shouldn't be penalized in people's minds because he shared a backfield with lendale white. He's a special player that changes a game with less touches than the normal running back. you take him #1, or you trade the pick.

[Caleb Cattivera]

lendale white will be the best player in the draft this year.

he's going to be a stud in no time.

[Spicoli hey bud]

lendale white will be the best player in the draft this year.

he's going to be a stud in no time.
Reggie Bush > Lendale White

[Caleb Cattivera]

Reggie Bush > Lendale White

lendale white>hype

[fromwithin]

Reggie Bush > Lendale White


no way. White is ranked #21 out the top 32 prospects on espn.com that's just not right. He'll play the underdog role well and be Bush's shadow until he rushes for 2,000 yards, then we'll see. Bush who?

[Caleb Cattivera]

no way. White is ranked #21 out the top 32 prospects on espn.com that's just not right. He'll play the underdog role well and be Bush's shadow until he rushes for 2,000 yards, then we'll see. Bush who?

THANK YOU!

bush will be a player. but i honestly think white has potential to be much more. OROY in 2006.

[Spicoli hey bud]

no way. White is ranked #21 out the top 32 prospects on espn.com that's just not right. He'll play the underdog role well and be Bush's shadow until he rushes for 2,000 yards, then we'll see. Bush who?
ESPN's ranking of prospects isn't really where I would look to back this argument up. I agree that White is great and could be an immediate impact player in the NFL, but Bush is just too good. It's almost as if he has been hyped to the point where people are jumping off the bandwagon.

[fromwithin]

ESPN's ranking of prospects isn't really where I would look to back this argument up. I agree that White is great and could be an immediate impact player in the NFL, but Bush is just too good. It's almost as if he has been hyped to the point where people are jumping off the bandwagon.

yes its called overhype. I want to see him in the NFL, against real defenses not the easy schedule USC has had.

My top 5 draft prospects are:

1. Lendale White
2. D'Brickashaw Ferguson
3. A.J. Hawk
4. Leonard Pope
5. Mathias Kiwanuka

These are guys that will have immediate impact in the NFL and will be studs for whoever drafts them.

[Spicoli hey bud]

yes its called overhype. I want to see him in the NFL, against real defenses not the easy schedule USC has had.

My top 5 draft prospects are:

1. Lendale White
2. D'Brickashaw Ferguson
3. A.J. Hawk
4. Leonard Pope
5. Mathias Kiwanuka

These are guys that will have immediate impact in the NFL and will be studs for whoever drafts them.
Haha it's funny how you use the USC stregnth of schdedule argument when the guy you defend played for the same team. But I'm not doubting anyone else's ability, just praising REggie's.

[fromwithin]

Haha it's funny how you use the USC stregnth of schdedule argument when the guy you defend played for the same team. But I'm not doubting anyone else's ability, just praising REggie's.

Yes I contradicted myself. If I was Lendale though I'd stay another year cause he'd be a heisman favorite and a top 5 pick next year. That's heartbreaking.


Lendale went to USC? haha

[Caleb Cattivera]

reggie is faster than shit. but the nfl is much faster paced than college, it's going to be interesting to see how he does when a linebacker with his speed is coming right at him.

he's going to see alot more of this in the nfl...

http://media.putfile.com/drew-kelson-pick

[Drew Beringer]

The Texans are going to fuck up their franchise for life with this draft. I just hope the Packers take AJ Hawk.

[preppyak]

heard a rumor on espn radio this morning that the Dolphins are talking to the Texans about sending Ricky Williams and a third round pick to the Texans for David Carr.
The trade makes sense, seeing as a Dominick Davis/Williams combo would be pretty sicko, they could pick up anyone with the 3rd rounder (decent OL, etc), and David Carr would look very good in Miami.

If they make this trade though, I almost guarantee you they go fo Young, because once Carr is gone, they aren't gonna want another stand in.

[weezer182]

i want reggie bush to go to sf :'(

[FondestMemory]

The Texans are going to fuck up their franchise for life with this draft. I just hope the Packers take AJ Hawk.

i think aj hawk will have the most impact as a rookie next year, no matter who he goes too.

he'd be a perfect fit for the packers too. be a shame if they have a chance at him and pass on him.

they need to rebuild that team's defense, and he's a perfect player to center that around.

although, i think lendale white will be an impact immediately too. i'm not a packers fan, but i agree with you. i'd like to see hawk in green bay.

[Caleb Cattivera]

lendale white will have more impact than any rookie next year.

[Drew Beringer]

i think aj hawk will have the most impact as a rookie next year, no matter who he goes too.

he'd be a perfect fit for the packers too. be a shame if they have a chance at him and pass on him.

they need to rebuild that team's defense, and he's a perfect player to center that around.

although, i think lendale white will be an impact immediately too. i'm not a packers fan, but i agree with you. i'd like to see hawk in green bay.

I agree, if Hawk is available, and the Pack don't take him, I'll already consider the 2006 to be a failure. Hawk could be GB's Urlacher/Lewis.

[Vincewithouthee]

lendale white will be the best player in the draft this year.

he's going to be a stud in no time.

I totally agree with that one. If he got taken by the Steelers, somehow, I would go crazy. He's perfect for the system.

As for this trade, it could be the right move. But no, it isn't in my opinion. The Texans already have a good RB in Davis. He's very underrated in my opinion. He can produce numbers being a shit offensive line. I still think the Texans should trade away their #1 Draft pick or DD and upgrade on the offensive line in the draft/offseason, and improve on defense over time.

Carr is a good QB. He just needs an offensive line and he'll produce. Also, they need another talented WR opposite of a very talented Andre Johnson.

[bigmike]

lendale white will be a hell of a pro.
Reggie Bush, though, is the best football player in the draft.

[itsjdiggity]

my friend just bought a $110 Reggie Bush jersey

http://i12.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/bf/ea/c5_1_sbl.JPG

[Spicoli hey bud]

lendale white will be a hell of a pro.
Reggie Bush, though, is the best football player in the draft.
he will erase any doubt next year. Too small my ass.

[imirish06]

davis, williams, bush...... and no offensive line

houston is fucking stupid

[LeftWideOpen]

How does this help Houston??? Create another hole and creating a logjam at one of the few positions they already have all set?? Trade the #1 pick and fill multiple needs so you can compete ..it isnt that hard to figure out.

[Spicoli hey bud]

davis, williams, bush...... and no offensive line

houston is fucking stupid
they're obviously not going to draft Bush if they trade Carr.

[splitsecond]

All houston needs is a line. Period. Fuck what theyre ignorant fans want. The need a line. Bush will not help them. Leinart will not help them. Williams will not hekp them. Carr is a great QB who flat out has never had a chance to perform. Davis HAS performed as a RB with almost no real protection.

But hey, if they want to do something stupid and send Carr to Miami, go for it. Carr + Chris Chambers + Marty Booker will be one awesome sight to watch.

[Caleb Cattivera]

i still dont think bush will be anywhere near the pro lendale white is...

i THINK he'll be good...then again, he may get dominated. you guys dont know for sure, and you're talking about him like you know 100% that he's going to be a sure fire pro bowler.

i dont know for sure either...but my guess right now is five years and done.

[fromwithin]

All houston needs is a line. Period. Fuck what theyre ignorant fans want. The need a line. Bush will not help them. Leinart will not help them. Williams will not hekp them. Carr is a great QB who flat out has never had a chance to perform. Davis HAS performed as a RB with almost no real protection.

i agree with everything 110%. I'm surprised at all the love Carr is getting on here. He deserves it though.

[bigmike]

All houston needs is a line. Period. Fuck what theyre ignorant fans want. The need a line. Bush will not help them. Leinart will not help them. Williams will not hekp them. Carr is a great QB who flat out has never had a chance to perform. Davis HAS performed as a RB with almost no real protection.

But hey, if they want to do something stupid and send Carr to Miami, go for it. Carr + Chris Chambers + Marty Booker will be one awesome sight to watch.

so if davis can perform behind a non existent offensive line, why couldn't reggie bush who would be split out wide and has more shifty-ness and vision and cut back ability than davis?

Carr hasn't had much of a chance. but you don't really have to trade the pick. you can draft bush and trade davis if you'd like. Yes, they need an offensive line. but, you don't pass up the most electrifying, exciting, explosive (out of adjectives that start with 'e') player to come out in a long, long time.

[Doug]

i don't understand why the texans would do this. dominick davis is an above average running back with no offensive line. he better be delt too.

lendale white may not be fast enough for the pros, i could see him being a ron dayne, ki-jana type bust.

[bigmike]

i don't understand why the texans would do this. dominick davis is an above average running back with no offensive line. he better be delt too.

lendale white may not be fast enough for the pros, i could see him being a ron dayne, ki-jana type bust.

I'm still puzzled out ron dayne is a bust and yet TJ duckett, essentially the same type of running back can succeed, somewhat, in the nfl.

[Caleb Cattivera]

lendale white is going to be the next jerome bettis.

[fromwithin]

lendale white is going to be the next jerome bettis.

i've agreed with you on white up until now. why would you make such an insult? he will better than jerome bettis. I don't want to see white in 10 years only running when whatever team he plays for is inside the 5 yard line.

i would love to see the steelers draft him though if he falls enough. I drool at the thought of what white could do with that o-line.

[Spicoli hey bud]

i've agreed with you on white up until now. why would you make such an insult? he will better than jerome bettis. I don't want to see white in 10 years only running when whatever team he plays for is inside the 5 yard line.

i would love to see the steelers draft him though if he falls enough. I drool at the thought of what white could do with that o-line.
an insult? bettis is a hall of fame lock. one of the greatest running backs of all time. Have you only watched bettis play the last 2 years?

[fromwithin]

an insult? bettis is a hall of fame lock. one of the greatest running backs of all time. Have you only watched bettis play the last 2 years?

no i've watched him his whole career and its sad that he's gained 30 pounds and only plays sparingly now. i wouldve rather he went out while he was on top instead of a reserve like he is now.

[Spicoli hey bud]

no i've watched him his whole career and its sad that he's gained 30 pounds and only plays sparingly now. i wouldve rather he went out while he was on top instead of a reserve like he is now.
bettis prepares each season to be able to come in and be a starter and everydown back if necessary. The added mass has helped him sustain a lot, and he says that if he couldn't handle a full workload, he would not be out there even as a 3rd down/short yardage back. He comes to play every year. He will call it quits when his body can't handle it anymore.

[fromwithin]

bettis prepares each season to be able to come in and be a starter and everydown back if necessary. The added mass has helped him sustain a lot, and he says that if he couldn't handle a full workload, he would not be out there even as a 3rd down/short yardage back. He comes to play every year. He will call it quits when his body can't handle it anymore.

they had a espn show with him one time, I think it was called "The Life" or something like that. They showed him the day after the game, and he could hardly get out of bed. This was like 5 years ago too, so I can't imagine what he feels like now. He's desperate to get a Super Bowl ring and he probably can't handle it anymore but he wants that ring.

[Spicoli hey bud]

they had a espn show with him one time, I think it was called "The Life" or something like that. They showed him the day after the game, and he could hardly get out of bed. This was like 5 years ago too, so I can't imagine what he feels like now. He's desperate to get a Super Bowl ring and he probably can't handle it anymore but he wants that ring.
he's a running back, you think any of them feel good on a monday? it's the same for everyone. In Bettis' case, he says that it's all about the heeling process in the offseason, because once he can't do that, he can't come back.

[Caleb Cattivera]

bettis is a definite lock for the hall of fame. you really need to watch football a little more if you that me saying that is an insult.

he's fourth all time in rushes, fifth all time in rushing yards, eigthth all time in rushing touchdowns, and a six time pro bowler. he's rushed for 1000 yards eight times in his career.

white's going to be a stud, but i doubt he surpasses bettis on some of these stats.

[fromwithin]

bettis is a definite lock for the hall of fame. you really need to watch football a little more if you that me saying that is an insult.

he's fourth all time in rushes, fifth all time in rushing yards, eigthth all time in rushing touchdowns, and a six time pro bowler. he's rushed for 1000 yards eight times in his career.

white's going to be a stud, but i doubt he surpasses bettis on some of these stats.

true, youre right. its just that i'm from pittsburgh and i'm getting tired of seeing him. i was so happy when we got duce staley but then he got hurt and now theyre using parker and i'm just disappointed with the situation.

and i'm sure when theres another big RB like bettis in the NFL that can fall down and gain 3-5 yards they'll say "look Jim he pulled a Bettis, one of the greatest of all time"

[Spicoli hey bud]

true, youre right. its just that i'm from pittsburgh and i'm getting tired of seeing him. i was so happy when we got duce staley but then he got hurt and now theyre using parker and i'm just disappointed with the situation.

and i'm sure when theres another big RB like bettis in the NFL that can fall down and gain 3-5 yards they'll say "look Jim he pulled a Bettis, one of the greatest of all time"
wow if you're from pittsburgh and are "tired of seeing him," I really feel sorry for you. Imagine what life without Staley would have been like without him. It is because of him, that the steelers can use the gameplan that they need to win.