Artest traded to Clippers?

[itsjdiggity]

Pacers have reportedly traded Ron Artest to the Clippers for Corey Maggette. Thoughts?

[somethingyellow]

fuck i wanted the warriors to get him

[Drew Beringer]

what what what?

[itsjdiggity]

My brother sent me this:

Jan 12 -- The Indiana Pacers have reportedly traded Ron Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers for swingman Corey Maggette.

WISH-TV out of Indianapolis confirmed reports coming out of Atlanta that a Pacers-Clippers deal is in the works and nearly finalized.

The original report from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution said sources from within the Pacers organization informed Al Harrington on Wednesday that the Pacers were close to a deal that would send Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers for forward Corey Maggette.

"Any team with a sane Ron Artest is going to be tough to deal with," Harrington told the Atlanta newspaper. "Any team he's on with his mind right is going to the playoffs and is going to make some noise. So it'll be good for Ron and for the Clippers."

Maggette was averaging over 21 points per game when he was sidelined with a torn ligament in his left foot. He is expected to be out another six weeks according to the Orange County Register.

According to sources, the trade is reliant on two factors:

One factor is that the Clippers would like to sit down with Ron Artest to discuss his willingness to play in Los Angeles. The other, on Indiana's end, concerns Maggette's health.

Magette could miss the entire season if surgury is needed.

Artest on the other hand, told reporters he needs a month to get back into "basketball shape." The former Pacer hasn't appeared in a game since Dec. 6.

More details on the trade when available.

[Drew Beringer]

My brother sent me this:

Jan 12 -- The Indiana Pacers have reportedly traded Ron Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers for swingman Corey Maggette.

WISH-TV out of Indianapolis confirmed reports coming out of Atlanta that a Pacers-Clippers deal is in the works and nearly finalized.

The original report from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution said sources from within the Pacers organization informed Al Harrington on Wednesday that the Pacers were close to a deal that would send Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers for forward Corey Maggette.

"Any team with a sane Ron Artest is going to be tough to deal with," Harrington told the Atlanta newspaper. "Any team he's on with his mind right is going to the playoffs and is going to make some noise. So it'll be good for Ron and for the Clippers."

Maggette was averaging over 21 points per game when he was sidelined with a torn ligament in his left foot. He is expected to be out another six weeks according to the Orange County Register.

According to sources, the trade is reliant on two factors:

One factor is that the Clippers would like to sit down with Ron Artest to discuss his willingness to play in Los Angeles. The other, on Indiana's end, concerns Maggette's health.

Magette could miss the entire season if surgury is needed.

Artest on the other hand, told reporters he needs a month to get back into "basketball shape." The former Pacer hasn't appeared in a game since Dec. 6.

More details on the trade when available.

Interesting. I rather have Al Harrington on my team though.

[weezer182]

fuck you indiana and fuck you clippers for making this trade.... the warriors needed artest

[mikeford]

fuck you indiana and fuck you clippers for making this trade.... the warriors needed artest

the warriors dont deserve a team until they stop calling themselves GOLDEN STATE

what the fuck is that?

[Drew Beringer]

fuck you indiana and fuck you clippers for making this trade.... the warriors needed artest

And fuck Artest for ruining the Pacers season. I hope the Pacers have a home game left vs the Clippers this year, I am so going to be there. I hope Artest has complete failure for the rest of his life.

[somethingyellow]

the warriors dont deserve a team until they stop calling themselves GOLDEN STATE

what the fuck is that?about the same thing as the pats being called new england

[weezer182]

the warriors dont deserve a team until they stop calling themselves GOLDEN STATE

what the fuck is that?california is the golden state.... its not to hard to understand. its a lot better then being the oakland warriors

[mikeford]

california is the golden state.... its not to hard to understand. its a lot better then being the oakland warriors

they play in oakland. golden state is a NICKNAME for a state.

[weezer182]

they play in oakland. golden state is a NICKNAME for a state. how ironic coming from a patriots fan :rolleyes:

[marrost]

about the same thing as the pats being called new englandBingo.

[itsjdiggity]

so Golden State and New England are not cities?

[leafsacc]

I'm just glad the knicks didn't pick up his bloated ego and contract.

[rcrook]

they play in oakland. golden state is a NICKNAME for a state.

if you have ever been to oakland you would probably want to be called golden st. the angels are the los angeles angels of anaheim yet anaheim is 30 miles from Los Angeles.

[LeftWideOpen]

is this legit? ESPN would be all over this and there isnt anything on their website.

[weezer182]

is this legit? ESPN would be all over this and there isnt anything on their website.ive been looking for it to and cant find it

[Drew Beringer]

I'm just glad the knicks didn't pick up his bloated ego and contract.

Artest is underpaid.

[weezer182]

Artest is underpaid.or the rest of the league is overpaid haha

[Emopunkthrice]

thank godd the clippers dumped magette, opens room up for Livingston I hope.

[FondestMemory]

is this legit? ESPN would be all over this and there isnt anything on their website.

i heard it on espn radio, but it was as a rumor.

i don't think it's official. plus, it's based on a report out of atlanta. based on something that al harrington said.

if it is true, shame on the indianapolis media for letting an atlanta paper break the story. la too.

i'm not buying it til i see something official.

[PunkVideoGuys]

Artest is underpaid.

word.

[G-Unit]

i love insider...this is the latest ive found


The latest Ron Artest (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3339) rumor, a report by Sacramento Kings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sac) flagship station KHTK that Denver, Golden State and Indiana had agreed to a three-team deal, was shot down by Pacers president Donnie Walsh even before it hit the airwaves Thursday night.


So ended Day 26 of the Artest Watch, which will move into its second month if the Pacers don't get a deal done by the end of the upcoming weekend.


If the Pacers have a timetable, they're keeping it to themselves.


"I'm not going to box myself in by saying something like that," Walsh said, adding the passage of time since Artest's initial trade request has brought an improvement in the offers the Pacers are discussing.


"Things are starting to clarify. The number of teams is down to three or four, and I'm dealing with one or two a day in a serious way. The players are better, and I think teams realize if they're going to do it they have to offer good players. Draft choices and cap space don't equal a good player," Walsh told ESPN.com.



The main suitors for Artest continue to be the Nuggets, Timberwolves, Lakers, Clippers, Grizzlies and Warriors, and reports in recent days have suggested the Seattle SuperSonics (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sea) could be getting into the mix. The Pacers have expressed a preference to deal Artest to a team in the Western Conference, and Indiana's dialogue with Eastern Conference teams has quieted considerably.


Of course, word is if one Eastern Conference team -- the Atlanta Hawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=atl) -- had been willing to take on Earl Watson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3549), this entire exercise might have been completed weeks ago. That proposed deal is the first of several rumored trade proposals over the past four weeks that are worth taking a look at:


[B]Rumor: Three-way deal sending Artest to Denver, Watson and Nene to Atlanta and Al Harrington to Indiana.
Veracity: This one was real, and the reason why it didn't happen depends on whom you talk to. Some say Atlanta balked at taking on Watson's contract; others maintain Indiana wouldn't pull the trigger. The Nuggets are still talking to several teams about Watson -- Memphis, Seattle and New York are three of the pursuers -- but seem disinclined to pull the trigger on anything until they know how the Artest situation will be resolved.
The latest: Denver coach George Karl has been effusive in his praise of Watson's work ethic and has been using him in a four-guard alignment along with Andre Miller (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3331), Earl Boykins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3311) and Greg Buckner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3296).


Rumor: Anyone on Minnesota's roster, excluding Kevin Garnett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3007), for Artest.
Veracity: The St. Paul Pioneer-Press cast doubt on this one Thursday, although several sources have indicated the Timberwolves are open to almost anything. Wally Szczerbiak's agent laughed off his client's inclusion in Artest rumors, noting they were about the 100th trade rumor he had heard involving Szczerbiak over the past few seasons. A three-way deal between Minnesota, Indiana and Atlanta sending Michael Olowokandi's expiring contract, a draft pick and a third player from the Wolves to the Hawks, with Harrington going to Indiana, would make sense.
The latest: Minnesota owner Glen Taylor gave a strong hint Thursday a three-way deal is still being discussed.


Rumor: Artest and another player to the Lakers for Lamar Odom (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3327).
Veracity: The Lakers have not offered Odom -- at least that's what they're telling Odom. Los Angeles would be willing to part with Devean George (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3346), a young player and a draft pick, but Indiana is not biting. Efforts by the Lakers to find a third team to broker a trade have been fruitless.
The latest: Lakers coach Phil Jackson, on the verge of the first six-game losing streak of his NBA coaching career, told reporters: "Right now it looks like no one's in it. I don't know what's happening. It's been a month-long saga.


Rumor: Artest to Golden State for Mickael Pietrus (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3714), Calbert Cheaney (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=1277), a third player and a No. 1 draft pick.
Veracity: Makes sense from Golden State's point of view in terms of getting Artest at a reasonable price, but would Artest be a good fit for an offense dominated by guards Baron Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3326) and Jason Richardson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3515)? There also has been talk that forward Mike Dunleavy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3601) could be moved, but he signed a contract extension on the eve of the season, which turns his deal into what is known as a "poison pill" contract (his cap value no longer equals his salary), making him much harder to deal. Troy Murphy's name was thrown out earlier this week, too, but agent Dan Fegan was reportedly told by general manager Chris Mullin that Murphy had not been offered. The Warriors also do not want to trade Ike Diogu (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3935).
The latest: Murphy sprained his ankle in the Warriors' 99-89 loss to Indiana on Thursday night. Quote of the night on Artest came from coach Mike Montgomery: "Picture me as Sgt. Schultz. I know nothing."


Rumor: Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lac) for Corey Maggette (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3336).
Veracity: When the teams first spoke in mid-December, the Clippers said no to any deal that included Maggette. But that was back when they were 14-5 and leading the Pacific Division. Losses in seven of their past 10 games as well as an injury to Maggette may have changed their thinking. Coach Mike Dunleavy has said he'd welcome the opportunity to coach Artest, but general manager Elgin Baylor has sounded less enamored of the idea. Indiana is believed to have asked for Maggette and Chris Wilcox (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3606), offering another player along with Artest.
The latest: Maggette's left foot is weeks from being healed. A cast will be removed from his foot next week.


Rumor: Artest to Sacramento for Peja Stojakovic (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3119).
Veracity: The Kings shot this one down early, and it has not been rekindled. Stojakovic's sights seem set on being one of the top two or three free agents available in the summer of 2006, and sources around the league maintain there's a strong possibility he'll end up in Chicago playing for Scott Skiles, who coached him in Greece nearly a decade ago. Indiana's Jermaine O'Neal has endorsed the idea of trading Artest for Bonzi Wells (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3254).
The latest: Stojakovic is averaging only 17.1 points -- down nearly seven points from his All-Star numbers of two years ago.


Rumor: Artest to Toronto in a three-way trade in which Jalen Rose (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=2636) would go to Los Angeles.
Veracity: This one was dismissed as fiction when it came out last week. The Raptors also were rumored back in mid-December to be offering Morris Peterson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3420), Matt Bonner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3748) and a first-round pick.
The latest: If there's an Eastern Conference team making a strong bid, it's being done well below the radar.


Chris Sheridan, a national NBA reporter for the past decade, covers the league for ESPN Insider.

[Emopunkthrice]

i love insider...this is the latest ive found


The latest Ron Artest (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3339) rumor, a report by Sacramento Kings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sac) flagship station KHTK that Denver, Golden State and Indiana had agreed to a three-team deal, was shot down by Pacers president Donnie Walsh even before it hit the airwaves Thursday night.


So ended Day 26 of the Artest Watch, which will move into its second month if the Pacers don't get a deal done by the end of the upcoming weekend.


If the Pacers have a timetable, they're keeping it to themselves.


"I'm not going to box myself in by saying something like that," Walsh said, adding the passage of time since Artest's initial trade request has brought an improvement in the offers the Pacers are discussing.


"Things are starting to clarify. The number of teams is down to three or four, and I'm dealing with one or two a day in a serious way. The players are better, and I think teams realize if they're going to do it they have to offer good players. Draft choices and cap space don't equal a good player," Walsh told ESPN.com.



The main suitors for Artest continue to be the Nuggets, Timberwolves, Lakers, Clippers, Grizzlies and Warriors, and reports in recent days have suggested the Seattle SuperSonics (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sea) could be getting into the mix. The Pacers have expressed a preference to deal Artest to a team in the Western Conference, and Indiana's dialogue with Eastern Conference teams has quieted considerably.


Of course, word is if one Eastern Conference team -- the Atlanta Hawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=atl) -- had been willing to take on Earl Watson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3549), this entire exercise might have been completed weeks ago. That proposed deal is the first of several rumored trade proposals over the past four weeks that are worth taking a look at:


[B]Rumor: Three-way deal sending Artest to Denver, Watson and Nene to Atlanta and Al Harrington to Indiana.
Veracity: This one was real, and the reason why it didn't happen depends on whom you talk to. Some say Atlanta balked at taking on Watson's contract; others maintain Indiana wouldn't pull the trigger. The Nuggets are still talking to several teams about Watson -- Memphis, Seattle and New York are three of the pursuers -- but seem disinclined to pull the trigger on anything until they know how the Artest situation will be resolved.
The latest: Denver coach George Karl has been effusive in his praise of Watson's work ethic and has been using him in a four-guard alignment along with Andre Miller (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3331), Earl Boykins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3311) and Greg Buckner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3296).


Rumor: Anyone on Minnesota's roster, excluding Kevin Garnett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3007), for Artest.
Veracity: The St. Paul Pioneer-Press cast doubt on this one Thursday, although several sources have indicated the Timberwolves are open to almost anything. Wally Szczerbiak's agent laughed off his client's inclusion in Artest rumors, noting they were about the 100th trade rumor he had heard involving Szczerbiak over the past few seasons. A three-way deal between Minnesota, Indiana and Atlanta sending Michael Olowokandi's expiring contract, a draft pick and a third player from the Wolves to the Hawks, with Harrington going to Indiana, would make sense.
The latest: Minnesota owner Glen Taylor gave a strong hint Thursday a three-way deal is still being discussed.


Rumor: Artest and another player to the Lakers for Lamar Odom (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3327).
Veracity: The Lakers have not offered Odom -- at least that's what they're telling Odom. Los Angeles would be willing to part with Devean George (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3346), a young player and a draft pick, but Indiana is not biting. Efforts by the Lakers to find a third team to broker a trade have been fruitless.
The latest: Lakers coach Phil Jackson, on the verge of the first six-game losing streak of his NBA coaching career, told reporters: "Right now it looks like no one's in it. I don't know what's happening. It's been a month-long saga.


Rumor: Artest to Golden State for Mickael Pietrus (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3714), Calbert Cheaney (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=1277), a third player and a No. 1 draft pick.
Veracity: Makes sense from Golden State's point of view in terms of getting Artest at a reasonable price, but would Artest be a good fit for an offense dominated by guards Baron Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3326) and Jason Richardson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3515)? There also has been talk that forward Mike Dunleavy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3601) could be moved, but he signed a contract extension on the eve of the season, which turns his deal into what is known as a "poison pill" contract (his cap value no longer equals his salary), making him much harder to deal. Troy Murphy's name was thrown out earlier this week, too, but agent Dan Fegan was reportedly told by general manager Chris Mullin that Murphy had not been offered. The Warriors also do not want to trade Ike Diogu (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3935).
The latest: Murphy sprained his ankle in the Warriors' 99-89 loss to Indiana on Thursday night. Quote of the night on Artest came from coach Mike Montgomery: "Picture me as Sgt. Schultz. I know nothing."


Rumor: Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lac) for Corey Maggette (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3336).
Veracity: When the teams first spoke in mid-December, the Clippers said no to any deal that included Maggette. But that was back when they were 14-5 and leading the Pacific Division. Losses in seven of their past 10 games as well as an injury to Maggette may have changed their thinking. Coach Mike Dunleavy has said he'd welcome the opportunity to coach Artest, but general manager Elgin Baylor has sounded less enamored of the idea. Indiana is believed to have asked for Maggette and Chris Wilcox (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3606), offering another player along with Artest.
The latest: Maggette's left foot is weeks from being healed. A cast will be removed from his foot next week.


Rumor: Artest to Sacramento for Peja Stojakovic (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3119).
Veracity: The Kings shot this one down early, and it has not been rekindled. Stojakovic's sights seem set on being one of the top two or three free agents available in the summer of 2006, and sources around the league maintain there's a strong possibility he'll end up in Chicago playing for Scott Skiles, who coached him in Greece nearly a decade ago. Indiana's Jermaine O'Neal has endorsed the idea of trading Artest for Bonzi Wells (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3254).
The latest: Stojakovic is averaging only 17.1 points -- down nearly seven points from his All-Star numbers of two years ago.


Rumor: Artest to Toronto in a three-way trade in which Jalen Rose (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=2636) would go to Los Angeles.
Veracity: This one was dismissed as fiction when it came out last week. The Raptors also were rumored back in mid-December to be offering Morris Peterson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3420), Matt Bonner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3748) and a first-round pick.
The latest: If there's an Eastern Conference team making a strong bid, it's being done well below the radar.


Chris Sheridan, a national NBA reporter for the past decade, covers the league for ESPN Insider.
thanx

[Caleb Cattivera]

drew your really bitter about the pacers sucking ass since he left.

artest will proabably go to LA and work out fine.

as for the warriors. they wont even make the playoffs.

[weezer182]

as for the warriors. they wont even make the playoffs.:'( think happy thoughts caleb

[Spicoli hey bud]

Ike should be back soon, who knows?

[Caleb Cattivera]

hahaha sorry.

i think minnesota will take the 8th spot...or maybe even the hornets.

[weezer182]

hahaha sorry.

i think minnesota will take the 8th spot...or maybe even the hornets.minnesota maybe.... the hornets i really doubt it. the warriors are in great need of defense

[Spicoli hey bud]

look at the teams at the bottom of the west though...

Houston, Seattle, Sacramento...all could get hot

[Caleb Cattivera]

if t mac and yao keep getting injured one after the other, houston has no chance, they cant within without yao...and they definately cant win without t mac.

sacto will be going through a coaching change soon, so unless someone comes in and does a george karl job...they wont get hot.

and the sonics. ha.

out of those houston has the most potential to get hot, depending health.

[somethingyellow]

hahaha sorry.

i think minnesota will take the 8th spot...or maybe even the hornets. haha no way the hornets make it, this year at least

[Caleb Cattivera]

hornets are going to make a late season run imo.

hornets>warriors

[somethingyellow]

hornets are going to make a late season run imo.

hornets>warriors im the opposite i think the warriors will make a late season run, plus they have more talent on their team

[itsjdiggity]

and the sonics. ha.

awesome analysis, mr. negativity

[weezer182]

awesome analysis, mr. negativityif ray allen left seattle would they still be your favorite team?

[itsjdiggity]

if ray allen left seattle would they still be your favorite team?

nope

[weezer182]

nopefair enough. by the way how come you dont support your southern california teams?

[Emopunkthrice]

cuz the cool people dont support their local teams

[itsjdiggity]

fair enough. by the way how come you dont support your southern california teams?

i support the dodgers, angels, USC, and UCLA

i just hate the la fans and kobe

[Emopunkthrice]

i support the dodgers, angels, USC, and UCLA

i just hate the la fans and kobe
how do you support local teams, your crazzzzzeeee

[itsjdiggity]

how do you support local teams, your crazzzzzeeee

haha...i didn't get that...please explain

[Caleb Cattivera]

j digs with ray allen like i was with jamal mashburn.

since mashburn's done, i've yet to pick a new medi-core player to root for. im really liking josh smith, but also, troy murphy has become a favorite of mine over the last two seasons.

[weezer182]

j digs with ray allen like i was with jamal mashburn.

since mashburn's done, i've yet to pick a new medi-core player to root for. im really liking josh smith, but also, troy murphy has become a favorite of mine over the last two seasons.become a warriors fan caleb. i will accept you ;)

[fluke182]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2290451
It's off, it's not gonna work.

[somethingyellow]

there is still a chance him to be a warrior :)

[weezer182]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2290451
It's off, it's not gonna work.nice and im glad the warriors wont give up ike for him

[Drew Beringer]

I just want Al Harrington. Please Lord, give Indiana a break.

[Ravenna]

artest needs a month to get back into shape? whats he been doing with his time

[Emopunkthrice]

haha...i didn't get that...please explain
how do your support your local teams?
the only local thing I support
is Cal State Fullerton Titan Baseball

[itsjdiggity]

I just want Al Harrington. Please Lord, give Indiana a break.

is he #1 on your wishlist?

[itsjdiggity]

how do your support your local teams?
the only local thing I support
is Cal State Fullerton Titan Baseball

i've been to some UCLA football games and some Dodger games...i follow the USC season and like watching the Angels in the playoffs...but I don't care as much for them then I do for the Sonics and the Titans

i almost went to Cal State Fullerton...i even took my placement tests and went to orientation

[Caleb Cattivera]

artest needs a month to get back into shape? whats he been doing with his time

promoting his rap album and raping white women with kobe.

[Ravenna]

promoting his rap album and raping white women with kobe.
damn, then he should be in good shape

[Drew Beringer]

is he #1 on your wishlist?

Yeah.

[Emopunkthrice]

promoting his rap album and raping white women with kobe.
he didnt finish it when he had all the time last year?

[itsjdiggity]

he didnt finish it when he had all the time last year?

didn't 7 people buy that Allure album he produced?

[Talib Scottie]

Pacers have reportedly traded Ron Artest to the Clippers for Corey Maggette. Thoughts?
Not worth it.

[itsjdiggity]

Not worth it.

for the Pacers or the Clippers?

[somethingyellow]

Not worth it. it got called off now

[Talib Scottie]

promoting his rap album and raping white women with kobe.
Now I ain't sayin she a gold digger

[bigmike]

didn't 7 people buy that Allure album he produced?

please, he's a much better promoter than that.

I think all of Shawn Kemp's kids have one. So that's at least 68 CD's sold.

[itsjdiggity]

please, he's a much better promoter than that.

I think all of Shawn Kemp's kids have one. So that's at least 68 CD's sold.

that's tough to come by on minimum wage

[bigmike]

that's tough to come by on minimum wage

well right. shawn kemp's behind on his payment plans for the cd's. hence why he's making a comeback. (according to caleb's source).