Panic! At The Atlantic?

[Rohan Kohli]

Word on the street is that Panic! At the Disco (http://www.panicatthedisco.com) has signed with Atlantic Records.

[Salomonbz90]

im gonna pretend to be shocked

[DroppedUrPocket]

lol

Take that Pete and Jay-Z!

[YourFaceIsFunny]

no surprise there...



like...at all....



ever....

yeah.

[alcoholandirony]

sigh

[Get Fucked]

Hahaha, Pete Wentz is going to be wearing depressing t-shirts about this for the next few months.

[YearsGoneBy]

omg

[ACA]

What other (punk/rock/emocore) bands are on Atlantic?

I only can think of Billy Talent..

-ACA

[HashHolly]

that was quick

[jynxedheart]

i thought i remember hearing it was a two record deal with FBR....

regardless, its not like anyone wouldnt spend they piggy bank on these investments...

[jbizzle1986]

the academy is signed there awhile back, and they both were signed to fueled by ramen/decaydence, hmm i wonder if theres a coincidence.

[Drew Beringer]

I believe The Academy Is... is also signed to Atlantic Records.

[unwritten]

Good for them.

[The Silencer]

I believe The Academy Is... is also signed to Atlantic Records.
dang!

[ChasP0780]

Hahaha, Pete Wentz is going to be wearing depressing t-shirts about this for the next few months.



Hahahahaha

[Drew Beringer]

dang!

Yeah, according the the AltPress issue for Most Anticipated of 06, it says The Academy Is (FBR/Atlantic) so I would assume they are on the label too.

[1Roth4]

do you think there was a falling out,?? or was this just a step up to a larger label due to their recent success?

[brammyg]

What other (punk/rock/emocore) bands are on Atlantic?

I only can think of Billy Talent..

-ACA

Funeral For A Friend, Death Cab, Poison The Well, Academy Is

[dukeboy1986]

Not really a surprise I don't think considering The Academy Is.. also signed with Atlantic. I think its only a distro deal anyways.

[yourignition]

Death Cab, Funeral For a Friend, transplants, tai are others that i can think of that are on atlantic

[Jason Tate]

Hahaha, Pete Wentz is going to be wearing depressing t-shirts about this for the next few months.





Why? He prolly got a fat check. From what I know, there was no upstream real with P!atD; which means Atlantic had to buy the contract - that means $$$$$$$$.

[hahahathatguy]

Word on the street is that Panic! At the Disco (http://www.panicatthedisco.com) has signed with Atlantic Records.

they've been signed for a while, it's just that the contracts did not go into effect till the new year.

[1Roth4]

Why? He prolly got a fat check. Does anyone understand the music industry?

nope thats why i thought i would ask.

[DroppedUrPocket]

Why? He prolly got a fat check. From what I know, there was no upstream real with P!atD; which means Atlantic had to buy the contract - that means $$$$$$$$.
I sure don't.

[boldt_action]

WHOA! didn't see that curveball coming.

[1Roth4]

Why? He prolly got a fat check. From what I know, there was no upstream real with P!atD; which means Atlantic had to buy the contract - that means $$$$$$$$.

so would panic! take this personally to be sold to atlantic.. or is this move pretty understood

[FreddyKrueger]

it's not word on the street, they've been signed for a while, it's just that the contracts did not go into effect till the new year.

Could this possibly one of those things where bands signed to a major label release their first CD on a smaller label to build up "cred"

P.S. Jason Tate is a condesending Jerk

[Thricer]

"Signing to Atlantic was a really bad decision, now they're back on Epitaph, hey!"

[bowlingforfun]

Why? He prolly got a fat check. From what I know, there was no upstream real with P!atD; which means Atlantic had to buy the contract - that means $$$$$$$$.

yeah that's what i was thinking...he'll be depressed all the way to the bank on that one.

[RockVocalPower]

Once again the band that has worked for absolutely nothing gets the world.

It must be nice to automatically become famous with no hard work involved.

[Jon Foucart]

FBR is basically a cling on to atlantic's ass. its cool though. cause i like FBR and if atlantic treats the guys well , then good forthem. days away deserves a shit load more then anyone there though.

[hahahathatguy]

Could this possibly one of those things where bands signed to a major label release their first CD on a smaller label to build up "cred"

P.S. Jason Tate is a condesending Jerk
depends, most of the time if an A&R does find a band that might be well recieved better on a smaller label *coughs*LOUIS XIV*coughs*, then do that so they can get that indie cred. as far as panic, i think there was an opportunity and it was taken.

[hahahathatguy]

FBR is basically a cling on to atlantic's ass. its cool though. cause i like FBR and if atlantic treats the guys well , then good forthem. days away deserves a shit load more then anyone there though.
I agree, it just sucks that they've dropped so many good bands recently. I could go through a list, most notably The Format.

[1Roth4]

Once again the band that has worked for absolutely nothing gets the world.

It must be nice to automatically become famous with no hard work involved.

you must know them well eh? to make a bold comment like that.... you wanna write out there story for me, from birth to present, just so everyone knows how little they worked?

keep your ignorant comments to yourself, because chances are, you dont know what the fuck you're talking about

[Jason Tate]

Could this possibly one of those things where bands signed to a major label release their first CD on a smaller label to build up "cred"

P.S. Jason Tate is a condesending Jerk
No, because I know they were not part of an upstream deal.

[LeftWideOpen]

you must know them well eh? to make a bold comment like that.... you wanna write out there story for me, from birth to present, just so everyone knows how little they worked?

keep your ignorant comments to yourself, because chances are, you dont know what the fuck you're talking about

actually last time i checked ...these are called "forums" ...he's more then welcome to share his opinion, especially since someone needed to say it. this band is crap.

[Jason Tate]

so would panic! take this personally to be sold to atlantic.. or is this move pretty understood
They can't just be sold. Haha, they'd have to want to do it ...

[Jason Tate]

FBR is basically a cling on to atlantic's ass. its cool though. cause i like FBR and if atlantic treats the guys well , then good forthem. days away deserves a shit load more then anyone there though.
FBR just has worked with Atlantic (like almost every indie label on the planet) to put together upstream deals in the past. My assumption would be that due to the relationship they had with them over those artists (The Academy Is, etc.) led to an easy transition for Panic.

[RockVocalPower]

you must know them well eh? to make a bold comment like that.... you wanna write out there story for me, from birth to present, just so everyone knows how little they worked?

keep your ignorant comments to yourself, because chances are, you dont know what the fuck you're talking about

Hmm..they were a band for what, a few months before Peter signed them? Their first shows were on the Take Cover tour and immediately went on to playing arenas with Fall Out Boy. Pampered? Yes.

[Drew Beringer]

They can't just be sold. Haha, they'd have to want to do it ...

So is TAI on Atlantic then too? Cause I don't trust AltPress.

[FOBcareemo]

Hahaha, Pete Wentz is going to be wearing depressing t-shirts about this for the next few months.




Burned out! At the disco

[1Roth4]

They can't just be sold. Haha, they'd have to want to do it ...
understood

actually last time i checked ...these are called "forums" ...he's more then welcome to share his opinion, especially since someone needed to say it. this band is crap.

his opinion i can handle... your opinion i can deal with..... he's stating bullshit he knows nothing about.... but hey, if he knows the guys and has followed them growing up.. ill pipe down

Hmm..they were a band for what, a few months before Peter signed them? Their first shows were on the Take Cover tour and immediately went on to playing arenas with Fall Out Boy. Pampered? Yes.

i dont think anyone makes it big in this business without some sort of talent.... obviously if these guys have blown up and sold as many records as they have, they've done something right, and something that people like... making claims that they didnt work hard to get to where they are is ignorant, because you and i have NO CLUE what they did and sacrificed to make it where they are today

[1check_1love]

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
wow

[Jason Tate]

So is TAI on Atlantic then too? Cause I don't trust AltPress.
Yah, from what I know they've been on Atlantic for a while. They were always going to be an Atlantic/Lava (before Lava went bye bye) band .. hence, all the drama when Atlantic/Lava basically dropped Days Away and put all the money towards promoting the TAI album.

[Tony Pascarella]

Panic has sold what...125k...somewhere in that range? From a small label (even FBR's standards), that's a lot of records. Atlantic sees money to be made, and Panic can have the major label and more money. I don't see a problem with the deal, despite the fact that I think P!ATD's album had no staying power. I give it a spin or two now, but nothing like I did when it first came out.

[Jon Foucart]

FBR just has worked with Atlantic (like almost every indie label on the planet) to put together upstream deals in the past. My assumption would be that due to the relationship they had with them over those artists (The Academy Is, etc.) led to an easy transition for Panic.
true true.

[Jason Tate]

Hmm..they were a band for what, a few months before Peter signed them? Their first shows were on the Take Cover tour and immediately went on to playing arenas with Fall Out Boy. Pampered? Yes.
So, they have to struggle to get where they are first - and then they can be popular as a band? It's not like they were manufactured or created - they were good, and they got lucky. Luck is what you need in the music industry - more then just about anything. Hell, FOB worked their asses off and paid all their dues to get where they are and people still hate them. I think this is a lame "point" to latch on to for a reason not to like/support a band. PS: What arena have they played? I didn't know any of the T.C tour were arenas. They sold some 50k of their CD without ever touring ... that's the power of word of mouth, and having a pretty good album to back it up.

[paul manley]

they are not even good

[LeftWideOpen]

Yah, from what I know they've been on Atlantic for a while. They were always going to be an Atlantic/Lava (before Lava went bye bye) band .. hence, all the drama when Atlantic/Lava basically dropped Days Away and put all the money towards promoting the TAI album.

I think that Days Away being dropped was a blessing to us as fans, because I don't think they would have been able to put out as incredible and unique record as they did if they were kept on a major.

[minusthejosh]

eh, i think everybody saw this coming. did anybody else see all the gals at trl with their _____ at the disco shirts? i thought it was funny.

[GAD_guy]

word on my street is that this band sucks.

[Jason Tate]

I think that Days Away being dropped was a blessing to us as fans, because I don't think they would have been able to put out as incredible and unique record as they did if they were kept on a major.
The album was completely done before they were dropped.

[dretti]

good for them.

[Drew Beringer]

eh, i think everybody saw this coming. did anybody else see all the gals at trl with their _____ at the disco shirts? i thought it was funny.

Ugh, when I see those shirts, I want to punch that person in the face.

[preppyak]

eh, i think everybody saw this coming. did anybody else see all the gals at trl with their _____ at the disco shirts? i thought it was funny.
damn, I forgot about those, or I would have looked for them. Hilarious

Ugh, when I see those shirts, I want to punch that person in the face.

I remember when they came out, someone had a teacher named Mr. Panik, now that would be a funny shirt

[Tony Pascarella]

I actually do own a Panic shirt, but it's not those ____ ones. It was the blue and pink one on the black shirt that they were selling on the Take Cover Tour.

[LeftWideOpen]

The album was completely done before they were dropped.

ouch. well i guess that makes sense since 7 of the songs had been previously released and just tweaked.

[Jason Tate]

ouch. well i guess that makes sense since 7 of the songs had been previously released and just tweaked.
Yah, but the major paid to have Neal Avron record it :) So that was awesome.

[shadowsstatues]

you must know them well eh? to make a bold comment like that.... you wanna write out there story for me, from birth to present, just so everyone knows how little they worked?

keep your ignorant comments to yourself, because chances are, you dont know what the fuck you're talking about
I can. It lasts like 6 months, which is how long they've been around. Duh. No one has to know their story. They've been around less than some infants.

[Get Fucked]

Why? He prolly got a fat check. From what I know, there was no upstream real with P!atD; which means Atlantic had to buy the contract - that means $$$$$$$$.
Oh yeah, I know. It's just fun to take little jabs at Pete, he's a good guy though.

[apex]

yeah this band is gonna come out with a lot of great releases and have a stellar career!!!!1

[shadowsstatues]

So, they have to struggle to get where they are first - and then they can be popular as a band? It's not like they were manufactured or created - they were good, and they got lucky. Luck is what you need in the music industry - more then just about anything. Hell, FOB worked their asses off and paid all their dues to get where they are and people still hate them. I think this is a lame "point" to latch on to for a reason not to like/support a band. PS: What arena have they played? I didn't know any of the T.C tour were arenas. They sold some 50k of their CD without ever touring ... that's the power of word of mouth, and having a pretty good album to back it up. That's bullshit tate. I think it's pretty obvious here that if they WEREN'T manufactured it's pretty damn close. People know this. They were a MADE band from the get-go. I doubt that a few kids suddenly created their first band and miracously wrote 12 catchy songs that the world would love within a span of under 7 months. Common sense here dictates that even if pete wentz did not CREATE this band, he either created their sound or got people to write like half their songs. Quite possibly both.

[KalwithaK11]

Well i think its kinda dumb how thiey r on that major label now. I mean they have been a band for like not even a year and they get all lucky with pete. Oh well, i do like the cd. But i do wonder if they actually did all those sounds, Its mostly computer beats and percussion/orcastra.
How knows.

[minusthejosh]

I actually do own a Panic shirt, but it's not those ____ ones. It was the blue and pink one on the black shirt that they were selling on the Take Cover Tour.

same here, i bought the one with the rhinos on it, not one of those "im stupid! at the disco" ones

[HashHolly]

That's bullshit tate. I think it's pretty obvious here that if they WEREN'T manufactured it's pretty damn close. People know this. They were a MADE band from the get-go. I doubt that a few kids suddenly created their first band and miracously wrote 12 catchy songs that the world would love within a span of under 7 months. Common sense here dictates that even if pete wentz did not CREATE this band, he either created their sound or got people to write like half their songs. Quite possibly both.

how about u prove it, or shut the fuck up, i enjoy people that pull shit out of thier ass...

[siimpx]

good for them.
i agree with them being a created band though...
they had written stuff but the majority of lyrics/music were written after the record deal.

i still like them. but i don't really listen to their cd anymore.

& isn't paramore on atlantic too? i'm waiting for that announcement.

[itmakesyoufeel]

Burned out! At the disco

ahhahahaha

[Jason Tate]

That's bullshit tate. I think it's pretty obvious here that if they WEREN'T manufactured it's pretty damn close. People know this. They were a MADE band from the get-go. I doubt that a few kids suddenly created their first band and miracously wrote 12 catchy songs that the world would love within a span of under 7 months. Common sense here dictates that even if pete wentz did not CREATE this band, he either created their sound or got people to write like half their songs. Quite possibly both.
Well, seeing as I was sent songs (that appeared on their full length) back when Crush Management was looking to sign them - by that fact alone you can't be right. This was only days after Pete heard the first demos. Second, I believe it's against the law not to credit song-writers for publishing agencies; and all the songs say the band, and only the band, wrote them. You can do the research yourself, if they were manufactured or had ghost-song-writers or studio musicians - it'd be pretty easy to find out.

I mean, it's easy to sit here and hate on them for getting lucky and getting popular so fast - but to make up shit and lie about it seems pretty low.

[Rohan Kohli]

In my interview w/Squire, Squire mentioned that Panic! worked their asses off in the studio re-writing vocal melodies, keyboard parts, etc etc. Just sayin'.

[Jason Tate]

good for them.
i agree with them being a created band though...
they had written stuff but the majority of lyrics/music were written after the record deal.

i still like them. but i don't really listen to their cd anymore.

& isn't paramore on atlantic too? i'm waiting for that announcement.
Part of an upstream deal; or it might just be Hayley, I never remember.

[DroppedUrPocket]

I am core because I listened to Panic before they were even a band.

[Drew Beringer]

same here, i bought the one with the rhinos on it, not one of those "im stupid! at the disco" ones

Haha, I'm gonna order one now that says that.

"I'm Stupid! At The Disco"

[Sureshot182]

atrist integrity can be thrown out of this argument from the start. the whole recent fbr deal is a joke. this is reason number 45643 why the term "indie" is stupid and repulsive. i hold nothing against the owners of fbr, fob, or patd though. it is a capitalist venture, who can blame them? life's too short, enjoy, don't get angry arguing about something this trite.

[hurleylovesyou]

congrats to panic!

[Jonathan Lally]

here's my take on it..

just another major label trying to hop on the band-wagon. I want you to remember that bands Fall Out Boy / My Chemical Romance / Panic! At The Disco are the new N'Sync/Backstreet Boys. They have the same fanbase that the boybands had about five years ago (and no, this doesn't mean I don't enjoy these bands.) I dig Fall Out Boy's writing and sound (some of the wittiest writing I've heard in recent years, although they have an absolutely dreadful live show..) but they are part of a trend. Record labels used to sign what acts they found unique, now they're doing the opposite and trying to fill their roster with what they think will sell (no shocker there, I know)

I guess what I'm saying is that while this is all fine and dandy for these bands, I hope they don't think it's going to last forever.. the originality of the music has taken second place to band member looks, makeup and bullshit.

I wish Panic! the best of luck with the deal, obviously.

[Jason Tate]

atrist integrity can be thrown out of this argument from the start. the whole recent fbr deal is a joke. this is reason number 45643 why the term "indie" is stupid and repulsive. i hold nothing against the owners of fbr, fob, or patd though. it is a capitalist venture, who can blame them? life's too short, enjoy, don't get angry arguing about something this trite.
Except that Panic! was not part of any upstream deal; at all. I was told this by John himself - so - I don't know what you're referring to at all.

[shadowsstatues]

Well, seeing as I was sent songs (that appeared on their full length) back when Crush Management was looking to sign them - by that fact alone you can't be right. This was only days after Pete heard the first demos. Second, I believe it's against the law not to credit song-writers for publishing agencies; and all the songs say the band, and only the band, wrote them. You can do the research yourself, if they were manufactured or had ghost-song-writers or studio musicians - it'd be pretty easy to find out.

I mean, it's easy to sit here and hate on them for getting lucky and getting popular so fast - but to make up shit and lie about it seems pretty low.
Who's making anything up? I clearly said, using simple logic and common sense, there is no way this band would have done what it did and risen so fast without some TALENTED/big name intervention. I stand by that. I don't think there's very much 'luck' here.

[Get Fucked]

Honestly good for them. Judging by the fact that Brandon writes such good melodies i'm guessing he researched writing songs for radio for quite some time, and yes singers do do this. I love them but they just give off that in it for the money vibe, sorry.

[GAD_guy]

So, they have to struggle to get where they are first - and then they can be popular as a band? It's not like they were manufactured or created - they were good, and they got lucky. Luck is what you need in the music industry - more then just about anything. Hell, FOB worked their asses off and paid all their dues to get where they are and people still hate them. I think this is a lame "point" to latch on to for a reason not to like/support a band. PS: What arena have they played? I didn't know any of the T.C tour were arenas. They sold some 50k of their CD without ever touring ... that's the power of word of mouth, and having a pretty good album to back it up.

fall out boy worked their asses off? i seem to remember them being secretly signed to island the whole time they were on fueled by ramen. modest mouse, death cab for cutie, alkaline trio, etc. these are bands that worked their asses off to achieve success.

[Jason Tate]

Who's making anything up? I clearly said, using simple logic and common sense, there is no way this band would have done what it did and risen so fast without some TALENTED/big name intervention. I stand by that. I don't think there's very much 'luck' here.
"Logic" and "common sense" when based in completely fabricated stories - means you're making it all up dude. Especially when the facts seem to point out something differently. I'm not looking at assumptions, and possibilities, I'm looking at the cold-hard-facts. And if you can show me ANY fact that proves ANY of your accusations, I'll gladly call the band out publically on this very website.

[Sureshot182]

Except that Panic! was not part of any upstream deal; at all. I was told this by John himself - so - I don't know what you're referring to at all.
i'm referring to fbr and atlantic being in ties. i don't know the contract or anything. it just seems to be very similar to what drive thru and mca had. mca could pretty much take any band from drive thru they wanted and blow them up. the only difference here is fbr has some real gems that are becoming HUGE. this isn't saying that tsl and nfg didn't get big, but nowhere near what fob has become..and soon to be tai and patd. i also realize that there was a big distro. deal with mca/drive thru and whatnot.

[LeftWideOpen]

fall out boy worked their asses off? i seem to remember them being secretly signed to island the whole time they were on fueled by ramen. modest mouse, death cab for cutie, alkaline trio, etc. these are bands that worked their asses off to achieve success.

agreed.

[sweatydancer]

Why? He prolly got a fat check. From what I know, there was no upstream real with P!atD; which means Atlantic had to buy the contract - that means $$$$$$$$.


Incorrect... there is upstream

[TheNumberOneFan]

i have never really liked panic but thats good for them that they are possibly getting signed

[Jason Tate]

fall out boy worked their asses off? i seem to remember them being secretly signed to island the whole time they were on fueled by ramen. modest mouse, death cab for cutie, alkaline trio, etc. these are bands that worked their asses off to achieve success.
Secretively? Uh, I posted about it the minute it happened - because Pete called me from the room he just signed the contract from ... there was nothing secret about it. You seem to forget that FOB was a band before they ever signed to FBR; they released a spilt with 504 Plan (which I should sell now), and a full-length.

[Jason Tate]

Incorrect... there is upstream
Not from what John from FBR told me 3 months ago there wasn't ...

[shadowsstatues]

"Logic" and "common sense" when based in completely fabricated stories - means you're making it all up dude. Especially when the facts seem to point out something differently. I'm not looking at assumptions, and possibilities, I'm looking at the cold-hard-facts. And if you can show me ANY fact that proves ANY of your accusations, I'll gladly call the band out publically on this very website.
There ARE no fabrications and there ARE no stories dude. Like I said, it's all logic. Stop accusing me of shit.

[doublediamond11]

actually....both the academy is and panic at the disco have signed deals with Atlantic for re-releases of their previous albums in the UK only at this point.

[forgetevth]

i remember in january of 2005 finding this band on purevolume. prior to pete wentz finding them. prior to having a cd. prior to being signed. they had 2 demo songs up and it was good. so manufactured? id have to say not. because why manufacture a band and then only put them on purevolume for months before they finally get huge?

[Rohan Kohli]

There ARE no fabrications and there ARE no stories dude. Like I said, it's all logic. Stop accusing me of shit.

Though I mentioned it before, Matt Squire said Panic! worked their fucking asses off in the studio to get better. He's quite the work-a-holic himself, so when he says that, it means something. These songs weren't just handed to them.

[Jason Tate]

There ARE no fabrications and there ARE no stories dude. Like I said, it's all logic. Stop accusing me of shit.
I'm not accusing you of any more or any less then you're accusing "Panic!" of - stop making shit up, your "logic" doesn't even follow the simple basics of rational thinking. I don't want your made up, "logic" - I want some sort of proof for these accusations you are making. If there was any truth to them, I'd assume you would welcome the call to prove it.

[CalamityRecords]

i think fbr have some sort of deal going on with atlantic.

fbr and tai are being released in feb in the uk by atlantic.

[Manbotisdead]

I believe The Academy Is... is also signed to Atlantic Records.

The red flag will come up if paramore goes to Atlantic.

I heard FBR was an Atlantic farm label.

[apex]

how about u prove it, or shut the fuck up, i enjoy people that pull shit out of thier ass...

Has anyone in this thread listened to them? I feel like I'm in fucking bizarro world. They're a poor man's FOB, and FOB is practically sucking dick on the corner for crack money, so that must say something.

[forgetevth]

Secretively? Uh, I posted about it the minute it happened - because Pete called me from the room he just signed the contract from ... there was nothing secret about it. You seem to forget that FOB was a band before they ever signed to FBR; they released a spilt with 504 Plan (which I should sell now), and a full-length.

dont forget they also released the project rocket split in 02...when andy hurley wasnt even in fall out boy but in project rocket. alot of you kids dont know much. thanks tate for stating facts

[sweatydancer]

The red flag will come up if paramore goes to Atlantic.

I heard FBR was an Atlantic farm label.


decaydance is a warner farm label not just atlantic

[jcmoney]

Atlantic has Academy Is.. and Panic? They are just trying to sign every band that sounds like Fall Out Boy.

[Jason Tate]

The red flag will come up if paramore goes to Atlantic.

I heard FBR was an Atlantic farm label.
People are obviously not reading 95% of what I am typing. THEY ARE NOT A FARM LABEL - they have a few bands that have clauses in their contracts to move up to a major if the major wants them after a certain amount of time. Just like bands on almost any label you can think of.

Example: Lovedrug (The Militia Group) and Sony.

Doesn't mean all the bands on the label are this way, doesn't mean they are guaranteed that the major will grab that band. Doesn't mean anything besides the fact that it's smart to see how a band can do with $40-50,000 before you start tossing 5 or 6 million dollars on a band to try and blow them up to mainstream (and a shit load cheaper to get the contract if the band does take off - then having to buy the whole thing from the indie). However, from what I was told from FBR themselves about 2-3 months ago, PANIC was not an upstream artist.

[Jason Tate]

dont forget they also released the project rocket split in 02...when andy hurley wasnt even in fall out boy but in project rocket. alot of you kids dont know much. thanks tate for stating facts
Ah yah, I have that too.

[Jason Tate]

Atlantic has Academy Is.. and Panic? They are just trying to sign every band that sounds like Fall Out Boy.
Atlantic had a deal with TAI before FOB ever got big ... and all three artists, FOB, PANIC, TAI - have the same manager and same management company. It's not that much of a coincidence.

[Vic7im of Life]

Neat.. I bet the got a pretty penny for that.

[Jason Tate]

Has anyone in this thread listened to them? I feel like I'm in fucking bizarro world. They're a poor man's FOB, and FOB is practically sucking dick on the corner for crack money, so that must say something.
If only the truth supported your outlandish claims.

[iAMhollyood315]

correct me if im wrong, but doesnt altantic and fbr/decaydance have some sort of deal with Atlantic? like if an artist is doing extemely well they can get bumped up to the next step which in case is atlantic?

[drainyourheart]

oh well i never could get into panic! like a lot of people have. They are good in their own style I guess. Im not going to say anything that will piss people off like some have already done. Oh well good for them I guess.

[apex]

If only the truth supported your outlandish claims.

What outlandish claims? I'm sorry, am I spouting any theories here? No. Panic! at the Disco is part of a fad that will burn out. And, more over, I'm not the biggest FOB fan at all but Panic is simply a bad Fall Out Boy. I thought it the first time I heard their songs and I think it now. From lyrics to melody to make up.

[Jason Tate]

correct me if im wrong, but doesnt altantic and fbr/decaydance have some sort of deal with Atlantic? like if an artist is doing extemely well they can get bumped up to the next step which in case is atlantic?
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showpost.php?p=2417932&postcount=98

[apex]

If only the truth supported your outlandish claims.

And by sucking dick on the corner for crack I meant in terms of music they put out. Obviously they're not sucking dick on the corner.

[Jason Tate]

What outlandish claims? I'm sorry, am I spouting any theories here? No. Panic! at the Disco is part of a fad that will burn out. And, more over, I'm not the biggest FOB fan at all but Panic is simply a bad Fall Out Boy. I thought it the first time I heard their songs and I think it now. From lyrics to melody to make up.
And what's the difference between them being a FOB-like band, and Nightmare of You (which I see in your playlist) being a Morrissey-like band?

[Jason Tate]

And by sucking dick on the corner for crack I meant in terms of music they put out. Obviously they're not sucking dick on the corner.
That makes no sense at all, how can you relate the music they put out - to dick sucking?

[TheNumberOneFan]

And by sucking dick on the corner for crack I meant in terms of music they put out. Obviously they're not sucking dick on the corner.

lol, thanks for clearing that up

it's kind of true though, they do sound quite similar to me

[albatrossxivy]

the academy is signed there awhile back, and they both were signed to fueled by ramen/decaydence, hmm i wonder if theres a coincidence.

the academy is ISNT on decaydence
they signed with fbr
and they are not with atlantic yet
only in the uk is atlantic handling this bands distro

[Ryan Imhof]

Once again the band that has worked for absolutely nothing gets the world.

It must be nice to automatically become famous with no hard work involved.
That's how I feel about the band as well.

[FUNLIKEAGUN]

cant anyone on this site be happy. yes its true panic at the disco sounds like falloutboy. and yes pete wentz made them famous and yes they sold like 100,000 cds in like 3 months b/c they played arena shows to 10K kids a night. but so what, thats life. sometimes people are lucky and sometimes bands tour forever and get nowhere. deal with it

[Brownpants06]

If you rearrange Atlantic, you get Titanic (plus a few letters) which reminds me of their label if they keep signing shitty bands.

[Colin Farrell]

before panic
www.purevolume.com/thesummerleague

[Jason Tate]

If you rearrange Atlantic, you get Titanic (plus a few letters) which reminds me of their label if they keep signing shitty bands.
Yah, two bands already over 100k on an indie - I'd be worried of a flop too. :rolleyes:

[LeftWideOpen]

cant anyone of this site be happy. yes its true panic at the disco sounds like falloutboy. and yes pete wentz made them famous and yes they sold like 100,000 cds in like 3 months b/c they played arena shows to 10K kids a night. but so what, thats life. sometimes people are lucky and sometimes bands tour forever and get nowhere. deal with it

and that isnt something to be taken so lightly, you know.

[Colin Farrell]

that summer league was written primairly by ryan, the lyricist and he sings on it. it is very well put together and this is before they ahd any help from anyone

[soulineyes]

my art teacher put this concept beautifully.
Thomas Kinkaide. He doesn't make great works of art, he makes pretty pictures you can hang in your living room.
Panic at the Disco, not great works of music, great music you your little sister and her 12 best friends can sing along to. great music to market, and sell because it's catchy, and simple. JUST like with Thomas Kinkaide, Backstreet Boys, Nsync, New Kids On the Block, Vanilla Ice, etc....the window will close. they will soon be forgotten, but RICH.

[doublediamond11]

Paramore actually signed to Atlantic in September of 2004

[Scott Weber]

Panic wrote an album that absolutely blew up, so give them credit for that. forgive durden also has told me that they're super nice dudes and have just written the music they want to. it's not like patd's album is totally generic for a pop-punk record. they do some pretty cool stuff on the 2nd half of that CD. i don't hate this band in the least, i think they're a trillion times better than other bands of the genre. here comes the bandwagon hate, but i won't subscribe unless they release an album that sucks - so far they haven't done that. i'm not calling the last record a masterpiece, but it's by no means a bad record.

[NameTaken69]

Hahaha, Pete Wentz is going to be wearing depressing t-shirts about this for the next few months.

deffinately

[The Revisionist]

This band sucks, LOLZ.

[Jason Tate]

and that isnt something to be taken so lightly, you know.
You act as though you have any say over it at all. MxPx should have been like Blink182 huge, they weren't. Midtown should have been like FOB huge, they weren't. Some bands don't catch the right train, for whatever reason - others do. Doesn't mean I don't like Blink182 or FOB for catching the luck I had thought other bands could have got just as easily. Doesn't mean I will dislike P!atD for getting lucky and playing their cards right. People who bitch when bands don't blow up, bitch when bands do blow up, and then even complain a little about the bands who work their fucking asses off to give themselves a shot ... are just never happy. And it bugs me.

Some artists are content with writing music for themselves and fans, and never making a huge living off of it - others want to make a living doing what they obviously love to do! I'm confused why this is a problem? Far too many great bands break up each year because they have the dream to make a good living off of being in a band - but can't ...

[mo0ink]

That is still extremely quick...Fall Out Boy has been a band and has been working and recording since like 2001? I'm not even sure, Panic! At The Disco hasn't even been a band for 2 years and they're already signed major, right off their debut. Funny how it all works out too...they just finished their video, now signed major, next trl, and so on.

[Manbotisdead]

People are obviously not reading 95% of what I am typing. THEY ARE NOT A FARM LABEL - they have a few bands that have clauses in their contracts to move up to a major if the major wants them after a certain amount of time. Just like bands on almost any label you can think of.

Example: Lovedrug (The Militia Group) and Sony.

Doesn't mean all the bands on the label are this way, doesn't mean they are guaranteed that the major will grab that band. Doesn't mean anything besides the fact that it's smart to see how a band can do with $40-50,000 before you start tossing 5 or 6 million dollars on a band to try and blow them up to mainstream (and a shit load cheaper to get the contract if the band does take off - then having to buy the whole thing from the indie). However, from what I was told from FBR themselves about 2-3 months ago, PANIC was not an upstream artist.

Sorry i hadn't read your posts before i posted.

By the way I got that farm label accusation from that gossip dude who used to work hear. I said i heard, not they are, Mr. Tate. So please don't say i'm not getting what you are saying. I was relating some hearsay I read.

[apex]

That makes no sense at all, how can you relate the music they put out - to dick sucking?

Have you ever heard the term 'poor man's ___"?

Panic is a poor man's FOB. FOB is sucking dick on the corner for crack (musically), so they must be very poor already! Panic is even poorer. Panic, in conclusion, is very poor. Musically.

And before the other line of argument goes on, are you comparing Morrissey to FOB?

[Jason Tate]

Panic wrote an album that absolutely blew up, so give them credit for that. forgive durden also has told me that they're super nice dudes and have just written the music they want to. it's not like patd's album is totally generic for a pop-punk record. they do some pretty cool stuff on the 2nd half of that CD. i don't hate this band in the least, i think they're a trillion times better than other bands of the genre. here comes the bandwagon hate, but i won't subscribe unless they release an album that sucks - so far they haven't done that. i'm not calling the last record a masterpiece, but it's by no means a bad record.
Good point. People don't even pay attention (or mention) some of the instruments used on that CD - but of course it's tossed out in EVERY review of Sufjan Stevens I've ever read. It's the difference between being pop, and being indie.

[Manbotisdead]

Have you ever heard the term 'poor man's ___"?

Panic is a poor man's FOB. FOB is sucking dick on the corner for crack (musically), so they must be very poor already! Panic is even poorer. Panic, in conclusion, is very poor. Musically.

And before the other line of argument goes on, are you comparing Morrissey to FOB?

I don't see the musical dick sucking connection.

[Jason Tate]

Have you ever heard the term 'poor man's ___"?

Panic is a poor man's FOB. FOB is sucking dick on the corner for crack (musically), so they must be very poor already! Panic is even poorer. Panic, in conclusion, is very poor. Musically.

And before the other line of argument goes on, are you comparing Morrissey to FOB?
Are you speaking english?

[apex]

Yah, two bands already over 100k on an indie - I'd be worried of a flop too. :rolleyes:

I don't mean to insult you or anything but 100,000 screaming teenage-almost-hipster girls in does not make a musical act good.

[apex]

I don't see the musical dick sucking connection.

Panic.

They sound a lot like Fall Out Boy, but they're worse.

Fall Out Boy already is not very good.

Panic is pretty fuckin bad.

[LeftWideOpen]

You act as though you have any say over it at all. MxPx should have been like Blink182 huge, they weren't. Midtown should have been like FOB huge, they weren't. Some bands don't catch the right train, for whatever reason - others do. Doesn't mean I don't like Blink182 or FOB for catching the luck I had thought other bands could have got just as easily. Doesn't mean I will dislike P!atD for getting lucky and playing their cards right. People who bitch when bands don't blow up, bitch when bands do blow up, and then even complain a little about the bands who work their fucking asses off to give themselves a shot ... are just never happy. And it bugs me.

Some artists are content with writing music for themselves and fans, and never making a huge living off of it - others want to make a living doing what they obviously love to do! I'm confused why this is a problem? Far too many great bands break up each year because they have the dream to make a good living off of being in a band - but can't ...

I don't have any say over it ..but I have the right to be upset about it. There's nothing more gratifying to me then a band who pays their dues and hits it big off hard work and the music they make. It's when a band comes out of nowhere and hits it big because they're whats "in" at the time that bothers me. It' becomes more about image then the music. I hate the big business side of music, and just because I can't change it doesnt mean I have to subscribe to it.

[Jason Tate]

Panic.

They sound a lot like Fall Out Boy, but they're worse.

Fall Out Boy already is not very good.

Panic is pretty fuckin bad.
This opinion still has nothing at all to do with "dick-sucking."

[apex]

Good point. People don't even pay attention (or mention) some of the instruments used on that CD - but of course it's tossed out in EVERY review of Sufjan Stevens I've ever read. It's the difference between being pop, and being indie.

Yeah, there's absolutely no other differences talent-wise between Sufjan and Panic.

[The Revisionist]

It hasn't even been CONFIRMED that they signed to a major label anyway, so you fucking idiots need to save your whining for when it actually happens. No use crying over milk that has yet to be spilt.

[Rohan Kohli]

Good point. People don't even pay attention (or mention) some of the instruments used on that CD - but of course it's tossed out in EVERY review of Sufjan Stevens I've ever read. It's the difference between being pop, and being indie.

If P!ATD were still tiny, I bet a ton more people would be jizzing over em.

[FUNLIKEAGUN]

yes but it does give the band a variety of girls to bang in the van

I don't mean to insult you or anything but 100,000 screaming teenage-almost-hipster girls in does not make a musical act good.

[apex]

Which has nothing at all to do with "dick-sucking."

What're you going to do next, call me a homophobe? He was sucking dick for crack. It was my way of saying VERY POOR. This has nothing to do with what I said though, but we can keep talking about it.

[Jason Tate]

I don't have any say over it ..but I have the right to be upset about it. There's nothing more gratifying to me then a band who pays their dues and hits it big off hard work and the music they make. It's when a band comes out of nowhere and hits it big because they're whats "in" at the time that bothers me. It' becomes more about image then the music. I hate the big business side of music, and just because I can't change it doesnt mean I have to subscribe to it.
And every day I see the bands that do pay their dues (MCR, FOB) getting more shit talked on them then 1/2 the bands that get manufactured into stardom (ie. The Click Five).

[Jason Tate]

Yeah, there's absolutely no other differences talent-wise between Sufjan and Panic.
Probably why the key word in my post was, "instruments" then, huh?

[Manbotisdead]

Panic.

They sound a lot like Fall Out Boy, but they're worse.

Fall Out Boy already is not very good.

Panic is pretty fuckin bad.

Ha.

See I said that when I first heard them too, but then I gave them a chance.

Vocally he sings stronger melodies and has a clearer tone then stump from FOB.

In addition,, Tate and Weber pointed out the use of various instruments which if you look into include synths, pianos, and accordions. Fall Out Boy doesn't stray into areas involving those instruments. On the surface you may have a little bit of a point, but looking deeper you are just flat out wrong.

[Jason Tate]

I don't mean to insult you or anything but 100,000 screaming teenage-almost-hipster girls in does not make a musical act good.
And being "good" has very rarely been a primary reason a band has been signed to a major label. Good was not the operative point in my post, the fact that the bands have a proven sales history was.

[apex]

And every day I see the bands that do pay their dues (MCR, FOB) getting more shit talked on them then 1/2 the bands that get manufactured into stardom (ie. The Click Five).

Who takes the click five seriously? Who takes MCR and FOB seriously? Way more people take the latter seriously, including the critics. That's why they're shit talked more.

Honestly, who would waste their breathe saying The Click Five sucks (dicks, if it pleases you). No one.

[UrOwNdISaStR180]

I am core because I listened to Panic before they were even a band.

HIO!

[Scott Weber]

this thread is fun.

[itsjdiggity]

Jerome James! at the Disco

[Manbotisdead]

Yeah, there's absolutely no other differences talent-wise between Sufjan and Panic.

Thats a stretch.

Dont get me wrong I like panic alot, but Sufjan may have made one of the best cds I have heard in a long time. The song-writing owns pretty much everything else out there.

[ramblinger]

this has got to be some kind of record right?

i'm not knocking the band, at all. congrats guys... tour the world, take pictures, drink a beer, date models, play your music as loud as you can in front of as many people as you can.

my only point is... i've only seen ONE promo pic of this band. make that one and a half... i think mtv was advertising their appearance with a photoshop mirror image of the exact same promo pic i'd seen everywhere else.

1 promo pic = 1 major label deal? this has got to be a record.

[Jason Tate]

Who takes the click five seriously? Who takes MCR and FOB seriously? Way more people take the latter seriously, including the critics. That's why they're shit talked more.

Honestly, who would waste their breathe saying The Click Five sucks (dicks, if it pleases you). No one.
:iamwithst

There's one in every thread.

[Bucc4019]

Hahaha, Pete Wentz is going to be wearing depressing t-shirts about this for the next few months.

why would he be sad??? he is going to be getting soo much money for this deal.

its not like it matters anyway....everyone i know listens to this band...they are huge...they were on fucking TRL today for godsake...who the fuck cares...

i just kinda think its a quick jump to the majors and we wont see them for a long range of time...

[bigmike]

Jerome James! at the Disco

haha.

[Jason Tate]

Why don't you start making news posts about the next Thrice record, I don't think enough people know the band Jason.
Well, seeing as P! has sold more copies of their latest album then Thrice has; maybe more people do need to know about them. And dude, you called Sufjan "perhaps" the "greatest living songwriter" - you just have a complete disconnection with reality.

[Scott Weber]

how wrong is it that panic has double the album sales of acceptance?

[Vic7im of Life]

this thread is fun.

yay!:dancepart

[NJ101]

actually last time i checked ...these are called "forums" ...he's more then welcome to share his opinion, especially since someone needed to say it. this band is crap.

HAHA! That made me laugh. I like Panic, but I have to agree they havent been around all that long and with a sound so similar to FOB they havent done anything too special. As for bands being moved up to big labels and going "big" I think its a great thing. I think the punk scene needs to be exposed to become more profitable. I love this genre of music and I dont want to see it go away anytime soon, plus good bands deserve good money so to the yellowcards and the like more power to you for getting punk music out on the scene. Fuck rap and country, aka the #1 crowd pleasers.

[bigmike]

how wrong is it that panic has double the album sales of acceptance?

it is kind of sad, isn't it?

[bigmike]

Well, seeing as P! has sold more copies of their latest album then Thrice has; maybe more people do need to know about them. And dude, you called Sufjan "perhaps" the "greatest living songwriter" - you just have a complete disconnection with reality.

Um, isn't bob dylan still alive? I think until he dies, he may hold or share that title as "greatest living songwriter".

[Scott Weber]

yay!:dancepart
cool spot was a hard game.

[PopPunkKid]

Panic has always sucked, major label or not. Their just a crappy emo band for high school preps thats just riding off the success of FOB by having a vocalist that sounds EXACTLY like Patrick. I dont care what you think thats my opinion so shove it.

[AnotherTale...]

only 160 posts? i though there would be like 5000 by now over this news.

[Jason Tate]

Um, isn't bob dylan still alive? I think until he dies, he may hold or share that title as "greatest living songwriter".

I think it's safe to say he holds it...

[Cocky Caucasion]

i think we're all missing the point here. Panic! At the disco sucks. I usually respect opinions (ok, maybe not) but this band seriously makes my head hurt with how blan and unoriginally bad this is. So they use synth, piano, and accordians? Whoop de fucking doo, so can every other band out there these days. The songs all sound the same. The singer sounds so much like patrick from fob that the comparisons are well deserved. this band does not deserve the recognition it gets. If these guys deserve to be big then every single talentless local scene band from where I live deserves to be huge too. They all sound the same. They all have the same "killer" live show. I don't care if they were manufactured or not, this band sucks.

[Jason Tate]

cool spot was a hard game.
So fucking hard.

[heartlock]

Honestly good for them. Judging by the fact that Brandon writes such good melodies i'm guessing he researched writing songs for radio for quite some time, and yes singers do do this. I love them but they just give off that in it for the money vibe, sorry.



do do

[Manbotisdead]

Well, seeing as P! has sold more copies of their latest album then Thrice has; maybe more people do need to know about them. And dude, you called Sufjan "perhaps" the "greatest living songwriter" - you just have a complete disconnection with reality.


Sufjan is damn good though.

I can't think of many still living aside from dylan that are his calibur.

[bigmike]

cool spot was a hard game.

i couldn't get passed the 3 level on that game. way too hard.

or i could be retarded, i don't know.

[Jason Tate]

i think we're all missing the point here. Panic! At the disco sucks. I usually respect opinions (ok, maybe not) but this band seriously makes my head hurt with how blan and unoriginally bad this is. So they use synth, piano, and accordians? Whoop de fucking doo, so can every other band out there these days. The songs all sound the same. The singer sounds so much like patrick from fob that the comparisons are well deserved. this band does not deserve the recognition it gets. If these guys deserve to be big then every single talentless local scene band from where I live deserves to be huge too. They all sound the same. They all have the same "killer" live show. I don't care if they were manufactured or not, this band sucks.
Will you send me some links to the bands from your local scene please? I want to sign them and cash in ... I am being dead serious too. Please!!!!

[Jason Tate]

Sufjan is damn good though.

I can't think of many still living aside from dylan that are his calibur.
I could name at least 5 or 6 before I'd come to any contemporary artist.

[whatthebleep]

old news

[The Revisionist]

http://www.purevolume.com/theteasedemos

[Jenn23]

That is still extremely quick...Fall Out Boy has been a band and has been working and recording since like 2001? I'm not even sure, Panic! At The Disco hasn't even been a band for 2 years and they're already signed major, right off their debut. Funny how it all works out too...they just finished their video, now signed major, next trl, and so on.
It's not that surprising. This is a world where someone (with no recording experience and no talent for playing an instrument or writing music/lyrics) can win a talent show on TV and get a multi-million dollar record deal. Oh hell, that damn show starts back up tonight, doesn't it?

[CorporateFish]

My lord, they are going to be huge..

[Cocky Caucasion]

Will you send me some links to the bands from your local scene please? I want to sign them and cash in ... I am being dead serious too. Please!!!!
i'll start looking for them right away. now that you've made a good point, I wish I had taken down the names of those bands before i left some of the local shows. if you don't mind sharing the profits, I'd be happy to cash in with you.

[fallafelraffle]

this has probably already been noted, but I'm too lazy to check. So:

(A) For those that said "in your face Pete!" - you're retarded. Pete will still get points on this and all future records, and he will be laughing all the way to the bank with the newfound major marketing force behind the band.

(B) hypothesis: This was probably automatic and not even negotiable as part of an FBR/WB upstreaming deal. Like, 100k in under 1 year leads to instant upstream to the major. something like that.


-out

[The Revisionist]

It's not that surprising. This is a world where someone (with no recording experience and no talent for playing an instrument or writing music/lyrics) can win a talent show on TV and get a multi-million dollar record deal. Oh hell, that damn show starts back up tonight, doesn't it?Since it is a proven fact that the winners have absolutely no ability to play an instrument or write lyrics.

[jawkneephighv]

So fucking hard.did you ever beat it? i don't think i did. that level with the teeth bad guys, hecka hard.

[stephisfinch]

PS: What arena have they played? I didn't know any of the T.C tour were arenas. They sold some 50k of their CD without ever touring ... that's the power of word of mouth, and having a pretty good album to back it up.


Nintendo Fusion was the arenas.

[jfb392]

Does no one listen to me?

[Manbotisdead]

Does no one listen to me?

What?

[Jenn23]

Since it is a proven fact that the winners have absolutely no ability to play an instrument or write lyrics.
Well, it's certainly not part of the competition or criteria to win.

[Johnny_G]

OK so seriously, why the fuck do you all care so much? Everyone in here has basically trashed Panic! in one way or another. I should really dig in the forum archives and find each and every one of u praising the band 4 months ago to expose the god damn hypocracy once and for all (but I'm oh so lazy). Now its time to pull the usual too cool to like a band on MTV act and whine because you and your 3 weekend xbox buddies aren't the only ones listening to the album. Go grab the box of Kleenex, listen to Landslide, let it all the fuck out, and come back when your over it. We'll be waiting.

[actionandaction]

I refuse to read 12 pages of this. Hopefully I didn't miss anything important.

[bigmike]

OK so seriously, why the fuck do you all care so much? Everyone in here has basically trashed Panic! in one way or another. I should really dig in the forum archives and find each and every one of u praising the band 4 months ago to expose the god damn hypocracy once and for all (but I'm oh so lazy). Now its time to pull the usual too cool to like a band on MTV act and whine because you and your 3 weekend xbox buddies aren't the only ones listening to the album. Go grab the box of Kleenex, listen to Landslide, let it all the fuck out, and come back when your over it. We'll be waiting.

i use to think/post things like you have, but it really doesn't do any good. no one pays attention to the fact that it's really not that big of a deal. but i'm definitely with ya on this one.

[Manbotisdead]

OK so seriously, why the fuck do you all care so much? Everyone in here has basically trashed Panic! in one way or another. I should really dig in the forum archives and find each and every one of u praising the band 4 months ago to expose the god damn hypocracy once and for all (but I'm oh so lazy). Now its time to pull the usual too cool to like a band on MTV act and whine because you and your 3 weekend xbox buddies aren't the only ones listening to the album. Go grab the box of Kleenex, listen to Landslide, let it all the fuck out, and come back when your over it. We'll be waiting.

I was the exact opposite, hated them at first and now I like them.

So that whole paragraph was pretty much wrong then. Thanks for wasting my time.

[Jonathan Lally]

I refuse to read 12 pages of this. Hopefully I didn't miss anything important.

your signature gave me an aneurism.. but I like it..

[Johnny_G]

I was the exact opposite, hated them at first and now I like them.

So that whole paragraph was pretty much wrong then. Thanks for wasting my time.

Hmm, 1 out of a million... you should try your luck at Lotto.

[Manbotisdead]

Hmm, 1 out of a million... you should try your luck at Lotto.

Yeah but I'm broke.

[SellOuts]

This is great for John, Pete, FBR since it wasn't an upstream deal they are going to make so much money. However, Atlantic isn't a great label (I know, I've worked at Atlantic and no I did not get fired). If for some reason this "fad" is over, it will take forever for these bands albums to come out. Days away CD took amost year after it was done and didn't even come out on Lava. Also, Jason Flom is gone from Atlantic and he might be one of the top people in rock music in this industry.

BOO YA!

[Jenn23]

Nintendo Fusion was the arenas.

Not all of them. I went to two shows on that tour and both were general admission standing rooms with an occupancy of around 2000 people or less.

[verybarrywhyte]

damn, I forgot about those, or I would have looked for them. Hilarious



I remember when they came out, someone had a teacher named Mr. Panik, now that would be a funny shirt
The music director at my old high school is Mr. Panik... ha

[Manbotisdead]

This is great for John, Pete, FBR since it wasn't an upstream deal they are going to make so much money. However, Atlantic isn't a great label (I know, I've worked at Atlantic and no I did not get fired). If for some reason this "fad" is over, it will take forever for these bands albums to come out. Days away CD took amost year after it was done and didn't even come out on Lava. Also, Jason Flom is gone from Atlantic and he might be one of the top people in rock music in this industry.

BOO YA!

That was very incoherent dude.

[jfb392]

What?I said a bunch of FBR bands were on distro/real deals with Atlantic months ago, and included Panic! as one.
Old news.

[Jonathan Lally]

I said a bunch of FBR bands were on distro/real deals with Atlantic months ago, and included Panic! as one.
Old news.

my apple buddy

[bigmike]

I said a bunch of FBR bands were on distro/real deals with Atlantic months ago, and included Panic! as one.
Old news.

What?

sorry i just had to do that

[Manbotisdead]

What?

sorry i just had to do that

Nice support dude.

[3milesdown]

its about the business..

[ra223]

I dont know whats going on and whats been said, i have skipped a few pages and found people yelling at tate and saying how fbr bands are fake and shit. First off.
I am not too sure but i am almnost 98% positive that FBR has a deal with Atlantic, so if they signed there all to them. I am sure the next cd will be an FBR/Atlantic split much like the Geffen/MCA/DTR deal. Second of all if anyone fucking questions fall out boy i think you should not be allowed to be on this site. First off Fall out boy was a band for a long fucking time, alot of labels turned them down after they recorded "An Evening Out With Your Girlfriend." People said they sucked and were shit, all they needed was a studio i say! DTR was going to sign them i believe but they wanted them on Rushmore, but fob wanted to be just on DTR. So they went to FBR. FBR believed in them and was one of the main reasons why the label is big today. After the success with take this to your grave they went to island. so stfu. Pete has done alot hes starting alot of bands careers and helping out with FBR, so its not like they are sell outs or anything. They havnt really changed their style either so they didnt "Sell Out." So i think everyone should stop hating on pete, stop hating on FOB, and stop hating on atlantic or panic!
If you dont like the music thats great, create something better or shut the fuck up.

[ishotthepilot]

word on which street?

eh, whatever. lil thing called upstreaming.
you're as late to the party as i am to this thread if you didnt know FBR had a deal with Atlantic.

[jfb392]

my apple buddyI laugh everytime I see the cheap labor smiley.

[Jonathan Lally]

I laugh everytime I see the cheap labor smiley.

hehe.. I need some new ones..

[oceanblue]

Yeah, there's absolutely no other differences talent-wise between Sufjan and Panic.

would you and every other god damn hipster stop sucking sufjan stevens's dick. Hes talented but not god.

[IcedOpethBlind]

If P!ATD were still tiny, I bet a ton more people would be jizzing over em.

gross.

[yutsmcgee]

Hahaha, Pete Wentz is going to be wearing depressing t-shirts about this for the next few months.


They still have their deal with Decaydence. It's called upstreaming you idiot. Pete is in on it. He's gonna make a lot of money off of this deal too.

[GAD_guy]

Secretively? Uh, I posted about it the minute it happened - because Pete called me from the room he just signed the contract from ... there was nothing secret about it. You seem to forget that FOB was a band before they ever signed to FBR; they released a spilt with 504 Plan (which I should sell now), and a full-length.

well it wasn't exactly a secret to those who kept up on it. nevertheless, they had released a shitty split and full-length (i'm sure even THEY would admit that stuff sucked). they had been around maybe a year or two. they had barely toured outside of chicago. they were signed to island before they had earned any type of credentials whatsoever. they were destined to be the "next big thing" long before they ever had to do any real work. there are so many relatively small bands out there who have worked much harder than fall out boy for much longer and have a much better live show to back up their albums. i'm not saying they don't "deserve" success as much as the next band, becuase who really deserves to be filthy rich when poverty is so rampant in this country (and the world)? all i am saying is that fall out boy is hardly a band that can claim they really worked hard for their success. pure dumb luck is what they have to thank. it's only becuase of their commercial success that their fans can ignore their lack of talent outside of the studio.

[Criesofthepast7]

They still have their deal with Decaydence. It's called upstreaming you idiot. Pete is in on it. He's gonna make a lot of money off of this deal too.

probbally.

[Chemical Love]

They are gonna be so huge.

[Perkinater]

well i think it's safe to say P! won't be releasing anything else until Chuck Palahniuk writes a few more books. Don't get me wrong though, i like Panic!

[Katie Schmitz]

jeez, that was FAST

[weezer283]

just another sucky band getting a raise

[Katie Schmitz]

They are gonna be so huge.
pretty much guaranteed now

[Katie Schmitz]

just another sucky band getting a raise
just another sucky opinion

[eversochili]

What other (punk/rock/emocore) bands are on Atlantic?

I only can think of Billy Talent..

-ACA

death cab and funeral for a friend

[Ruggiero2oo8]

They are gonna be so huge.



word

[mousepotato]

lame rip off of counting crows, another gay band

[sparksfly]

lame rip off of counting crows, another gay band


p!atd ripping off counting crows? that's a new one ...
yeah.
what a huuuuge surprise. at least TAI did one tour of smaller venues before exploding ... cant see that happening with p!atd.

[PlunketChris]

I just read this entire thread (I have no life after I get home from work). Nothing unexpected.. The music business comes down to one thing: numbers. Numbers come with certain sounds at different times. Bands just need to execute those sounds fairly well and have well-connected people pushing behind them. Right now, the "it" sound is FOB/P!ATD/TAI/MCR, even Green Day capitalized on this surge; though they and Blink 182 are pretty much responsible for the sound in general.

Panic! may not have built up a core, underground following before Pete Wentz found them, but that doesn't mean they haven't worked hard. They were discovered early. Don't tell me you wouldn't take the opportunity if it were handed to you. They took that opportunity and made the absolute best of it. If their album was awful, they wouldn't have sold 100k. Even little girls can realize a talentless, awful band, even if Pete Wentz likes them.

[IAPAI]

lame rip off of counting crows, another gay band

I'm not the biggest Counting Crows fan but I'd say I'm pretty familiar with their work, and not just the old stuff either. Having said that, I honestly cannot see any similariities between the two bands.
Would you please elaborate if you're going to say something so bold?

[dan.is.empire]

fuck pete wentz. he's ruining fall out boy more and more every day.

im happy for panic though.

[Nate_RAWKS]

That's great i'm really happy for them, congratulations. I really enjoy their cd it's a good time.

That's all....

go on.....

[IAPAI]

fuck pete wentz. he's ruining fall out boy more and more every day.

im happy for panic though.

Yeah, Pete should stop doing what he wants because it makes you feel less cool when you sing along to Grand Theft Autumn.

Think about what you just said, you complete. fucking. moron.

[Zummy]

I just read every single post on this thread. I would make a comment on the topic at hand but I think everything has already been said. Well I guess I can say something: Tate and everyone that was talking about cool spot did any of you guys ever play yo noid' for nintendo with the mascot from dominos. I thought that game was pretty cool.

[PlunketChris]

I just read every single post on this thread. I would make a comment on the topic at hand but I think everything has already been said. Well I guess I can say something: Tate and everyone that was talking about cool spot did any of you guys ever play yo noid' for nintendo with the mascot from dominos. I thought that game was pretty cool.

I'm loving the title of your post. Atleast we can admit it.

[Big_Guy]

good. I don't want them in my scene.

fuck this absolutely horrible band

[duffe]

I didn't read this thread.

[1Roth4]

I said a bunch of FBR bands were on distro/real deals with Atlantic months ago, and included Panic! as one.
Old news.

we need to invest in absolutepunk.net medals for people like you.

[bradyreier]

Has anyone in this thread listened to them? I feel like I'm in fucking bizarro world. They're a poor man's FOB, and FOB is practically sucking dick on the corner for crack money, so that must say something.

and you are stupid. i'm pretty sure fob has the upper hand right now. every label would be creaming to have them signed.

[satanisanerd]

Wow that's crazy but not unexpected.

[bradyreier]

good. I don't want them in my scene.

fuck this absolutely horrible band

and i'm sure they'll be complete disheartened that they're not in your "scene."

[FASSWcore]

there be a lot of comments in this thread...ridiculous

[gizmo6d9]

What're you going to do next, call me a homophobe? He was sucking dick for crack. It was my way of saying VERY POOR. This has nothing to do with what I said though, but we can keep talking about it.

No no it's quite

[Sureshot182]

You act as though you have any say over it at all. MxPx should have been like Blink182 huge, they weren't. Midtown should have been like FOB huge, they weren't. Some bands don't catch the right train, for whatever reason - others do. Doesn't mean I don't like Blink182 or FOB for catching the luck I had thought other bands could have got just as easily. Doesn't mean I will dislike P!atD for getting lucky and playing their cards right. People who bitch when bands don't blow up, bitch when bands do blow up, and then even complain a little about the bands who work their fucking asses off to give themselves a shot ... are just never happy. And it bugs me.

Some artists are content with writing music for themselves and fans, and never making a huge living off of it - others want to make a living doing what they obviously love to do! I'm confused why this is a problem? Far too many great bands break up each year because they have the dream to make a good living off of being in a band - but can't ...
one thing bothers me. blink 182 >>>>mxpx. blink had the appeal factor, and just better songs. i'm not saying mxpx isn't deserving of success, because they most definitely are. they are the definiton of hard work and persistence.

[Vic7im of Life]

Wetdream for the webzine?

[dukeboy1986]

Wetdream for the webzine?

Make us hip, make us hit, or make us scene.

Eh, who really cares what label they are signed with. You either like the band or don't. Get over it and move on with life.

[mikedoerr]

it was probably said before, but most of the fueled by ramen/decaydance bands have deals with atlantic or other majors.

pete wentz and andy hurley (i thinks he owns part of decaydance) will be making massive amounts of money off of this.

and as if i hadnt posted enough that nobody wants to read im gonna go out and say that i think panic will be bigger and generally better received than fob simply because they are more appealing to a more diverse/vast crowd. the dance element has/will appeal to scenesters and younger teens because they eat that shit up. the jazzy stuff that they do (i.e. "Build God, Then We'll Talk) will appeal to peopel with a more classic taste in music and musicians who know more than drop-d power chords and pinch harmonics. people who are into hip-hop are into them because they have bouncy drum machine rap beats playing at the same time as alot of their drums parts.

in no way am i knocking fob because i am a fan of both bands. and im not accusing anyone of not writing their own songs but if someone told me that fob realized they wont be playing 3 minuite pop punk songs forever and decided to write a bunch of songs for another band to use, i would be inclined to believe.

im not tyring to be a dick or barge into this message board cuz im relatively new with posting on her but does anyone agree with me....and if you disagree im interested in why.

by the way im mike...whats up everyone

[screamoutmyname]

Panic! at the Disco can SUCK IT!

[bowlingforfun]

I dont know whats going on and whats been said, i have skipped a few pages and found people yelling at tate and saying how fbr bands are fake and shit. First off.
I am not too sure but i am almnost 98% positive that FBR has a deal with Atlantic, so if they signed there all to them. I am sure the next cd will be an FBR/Atlantic split much like the Geffen/MCA/DTR deal. Second of all if anyone fucking questions fall out boy i think you should not be allowed to be on this site. First off Fall out boy was a band for a long fucking time, alot of labels turned them down after they recorded "An Evening Out With Your Girlfriend." People said they sucked and were shit, all they needed was a studio i say! DTR was going to sign them i believe but they wanted them on Rushmore, but fob wanted to be just on DTR. So they went to FBR. FBR believed in them and was one of the main reasons why the label is big today. After the success with take this to your grave they went to island. so stfu. Pete has done alot hes starting alot of bands careers and helping out with FBR, so its not like they are sell outs or anything. They havnt really changed their style either so they didnt "Sell Out." So i think everyone should stop hating on pete, stop hating on FOB, and stop hating on atlantic or panic!
If you dont like the music thats great, create something better or shut the fuck up.


ummm anyone remember that quote from billy madison after he gave his answer at the academic decathalon? (insert that here)

[yutsmcgee]

good. I don't want them in my scene.

fuck this absolutely horrible band

Wow. You come off as such a dick. I'm sure they don't want to be in "your" scene buddy.

[mogwaifearsatan]

Who cares, they were destined for TRL-dom the second Pete Wentz checked his LiveJournal.

[garlicgirl1210]

Make us hip, make us hit, or make us scene.

Eh, who really cares what label they are signed with. You either like the band or don't. Get over it and move on with life.

well said.

[BrentIsNotScene]

p!atd ripping off counting crows? that's a new one ...
yeah.
what a huuuuge surprise. at least TAI did one tour of smaller venues before exploding ... cant see that happening with p!atd.

Try again... their whole 7 or so show tour they did in December was nothing but small venues...

Chain Reaction (Anaheim, twice)
Soma (San Diego)
The Alley (Las Vegas)
Jerry's Pizza
and some place up in LA twice.

I have a whole video of their CR show, but don't want to post the link here as my bandwidth will get creamed. search for it if you want it.

And I've <3'd PATD since I first heard em back in February of 05... so great. Opening a P!ATD media hub next week @ www.panicatthenetwork.com

[lucian guthrie]

am i taking fucking crazy pills? this band is fall out boy under a different alias. like he band or dont like them, you cannot argue this. bands like this are EXACTLY what is wrong with music, its no longer a unique expression, its a precise and formulated attempt at expression. you can see right through it and its bullshit. rock music used to be dangerous, theres nothing dangerous about any of these fucking bands. they are here today gone tomorrow human billboards. they get bought up young by labels for nothing, sold for millions and dropped in a heartbeat. on top of that they are all stamped with clothing company emblems so someone else can make a buck off of them. until artists develop some fucking integrity music is going to suck, and its your fault for buying the albums and supporting it.

one more thing, to jason, theoretically, anybody could have played on this bands album and not been credited, im not saying thats the case, i could care less if it is or isnt. but artists( and i use that term loosely here) and labels can negotiate anything they want concerning being credited on an album, as long as the person with the deep pockets finds the agreement lucrative. look at nine inch nails, trent reznor is generally credited with writing everything, which is absolutely not the case, but he pays for the credit. anything is possible.

[feigningapology]

shock....and awe...

[The Revisionist]

Well, it's certainly not part of the competition or criteria to win.No it's not, that doesn't prove your point.

[nicoteen]

this thread is fun.


This thread is more engrossing than The Da Vinci Code and funnier than The 40 Year Old Virgin or even Wedding Crashers for that matter. Props to apex and jason tate for bringing me laughs and tears. Can I get some acceptance speeches for the award of best read of 2006?

[nicoteen]

Hmm, 1 out of a million... you should try your luck at Lotto.

Actually never really liked them at first either. Now I went out and bought there cd and I love it.
So..

[nicoteen]

I just read every single post on this thread. I would make a comment on the topic at hand but I think everything has already been said. Well I guess I can say something: Tate and everyone that was talking about cool spot did any of you guys ever play yo noid' for nintendo with the mascot from dominos. I thought that game was pretty cool.


That game was friggin awesome with the pizza eating contests at the end of the levels and the whack a mole inspired bonus levels.

That game was rather difficult towards the end as well.

I think I may go and pull out the ol NES and give that a go. Thanks

[rockon]

& isn't paramore on atlantic too? i'm waiting for that announcement.

Hayley was signed by Atlantic from the beginning as a solo singer. But, they wanted her to get 'indie cred' and do the van tours and stuff. So, they put together a band for her and bumped it down to FBR.

[looram12]

Hahaha, Pete Wentz is going to be wearing depressing t-shirts about this for the next few months.



yea, im sure he's depressed about how much money atlantic had to give him to buy Panic! out of decaydence, must be a real bummer

[looram12]

one more thing, to jason, theoretically, anybody could have played on this bands album and not been credited, im not saying thats the case, i could care less if it is or isnt. but artists( and i use that term loosely here) and labels can negotiate anything they want concerning being credited on an album, as long as the person with the deep pockets finds the agreement lucrative. look at nine inch nails, trent reznor is generally credited with writing everything, which is absolutely not the case, but he pays for the credit. anything is possible.

its so true, look at saves the day's cant slow down, anyone who really looks into it finds out that their drummer isnt playing on that record, its a studio drummer, not too easy to track that info down nowadays though Im sure, but its true, I think the original glassjaw drummer isnt playing on ETYEWTKAS either