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Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:05 PM
From First to Last (http://www.fromfirsttolast.com) will be on the April cover of Alternative Press magazine.

brammyg
01/19/06, 03:07 PM
i hope they shower for the photo shoot

Frank Giaramita
01/19/06, 03:08 PM
Wow, although I don't listen or like From First To Last, I'm glad to see Alternative Press is putting a smaller and different band on the cover.

Stereo Therapy
01/19/06, 03:09 PM
consistently terrible cover stories. that is why i unsubscribed.

JacksColdSweat
01/19/06, 03:09 PM
more make-up then usual?

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:09 PM
Oh Christ

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:10 PM
They need to go old school and get some great singer/bands on the cover.

hubbabubbal3ts
01/19/06, 03:10 PM
horrible. they havn't put a good band on the cover in a couple of months.

asshat
01/19/06, 03:11 PM
you will eat your words come march 21st.

everything you know about fftl will be erased

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:11 PM
I mean get Morrissey and do a great story on him. Something.

Ladron
01/19/06, 03:12 PM
more make-up then usual?

yes, they want to look pretty.

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:12 PM
you will eat your words come march 21st.

everything you know about fftl will be erased


Thats great and everything, I just don't want them on my Alt Press cover.

brammyg
01/19/06, 03:14 PM
Their last album was pretty good. I think the drummer is incredible.

Greg
01/19/06, 03:14 PM
ah

so maybe that explains why they got 2 pages for like 2 sentences and a huge picture of them looking god awful for the CDs of 06 thing

asshat
01/19/06, 03:15 PM
Thats great and everything, I just don't want them on my Alt Press cover.

well you may think differentey when the new cd drops.

everyone talks so much shit on this band, mostly based on the way they look which is pretty shitty.

they are more talented and actually doing stuff with the music they make than 95 percent of people on this board, and in my opinon, that deserves respect...even if you dont like what they are making.

RockVocalPower
01/19/06, 03:15 PM
This band is one of the worst bands ever.

Not even kidding.

histrionics22
01/19/06, 03:16 PM
Thats great and everything, I just don't want them on my Alt Press cover.

Its just a freakin cover. From First to Last will likely be HUGE in 06. Attract more people. Stop complaining and start thinking logically.

your_martyr
01/19/06, 03:16 PM
can alt press EVER recover from this lack of talent theyve been putting on the cover?

MCR
Avenged Sevenfold
FFTL

Maybe, once good albums start coming out like Brand New, Thursday, Portugal. The Man, they'll put those bands on the cover and make the magazine back to good

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:16 PM
well you may think differentey when the new cd drops.

everyone talks so much shit on this band, mostly based on the way they look which is pretty shitty.

they are more talented and actually doing stuff with the music they make than 95 percent of people on this board, and in my opinon, that deserves respect...even if you dont like what they are making.

Their okay...I just think Alt Press can do better with cover and cover stories.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:17 PM
The new Morrissey album comes out in April - would it have been to hard to put him on the cover? Let's see .. FFTL or one of the greatest and most influential singer/songwriters ever.

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:17 PM
Its just a freakin cover. From First to Last will likely be HUGE in 06. Attract more people. Stop complaining and start thinking logically.

Hey, I'm just talking to get to 1000 posts lol

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:18 PM
The new Morrissey album comes out in April - would it have been to hard to put him on the cover? Let's see .. FFTL or one of the greatest and most influential singer/songwriters ever.

This is what I'm trying to say. lol

histrionics22
01/19/06, 03:18 PM
can alt press EVER recover from this lack of talent theyve been putting on the cover?

MCR
Avenged Sevenfold
FFTL

Maybe, once good albums start coming out like Brand New, Thursday, Portugal. The Man, they'll put those bands on the cover and make the magazine back to good

You may not like the music but you have got to be kidding calling any of those bands out for lack of talent. You might not like the music, but come on thats ridiculous.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:18 PM
They'll be huge without being on the cover anyways .. why doesn't Alt Press try and make a band huge instead of jumping on the "sure-things"? That's my only real qualm with this pick.

alcoholandirony
01/19/06, 03:18 PM
my chemical romance, avenged sevenfold, from first to last....

alt press must have a thing for makeup.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:20 PM
You may not like the music but you have got to be kidding calling any of those bands out for lack of talent. You might not like the music, but come on thats ridiculous.

Comparable to other things that are out there (and the three bands he mentioned), I'd say the talent is less in MCR/AV7/FFTL than Brand New/Thursday/P. The Man.

asshat
01/19/06, 03:20 PM
avenged sevenfold and no talent?

some of those guitar solos are pretty intense

histrionics22
01/19/06, 03:21 PM
The new Morrissey album comes out in April - would it have been to hard to put him on the cover? Let's see .. FFTL or one of the greatest and most influential singer/songwriters ever.

How many times does the Alt press people have to come on and talk about what gets people to buy the magazines. I specifically remember last argument, someone mentioned the fact that they had someone on people didnt like, but inside ran a huge story on Muse. You have to give the people what they want while introducing other things. You can't have dessert without eating your vegetables.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 03:21 PM
Whoa April? That's pretty far in advance?

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:22 PM
avenged sevenfold and no talent?

some of those guitar solos are pretty intense

Guitar solos don't make you talented. I can play guitar solos.

grimis16
01/19/06, 03:22 PM
I hate looking at these guys...for some reason every SINGLE picture i see of them (especially ones of the lead singer) i want to punch each and every one of them in the face. They drive me NUTS!

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 03:23 PM
So Jan 06 was MCR
Feb 06 was A7X
Mar 06 ????
Apr 06 FFTL

So who is on the cover for march?

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:23 PM
How many times does the Alt press people have to come on and talk about what gets people to buy the magazines. I specifically remember last argument, someone mentioned the fact that they had someone on people didnt like, but inside ran a huge story on Muse. You have to give the people what they want while introducing other things. You can't have dessert without eating your vegetables.
Morrissey is "dessert." And I don't think a business model surrounded around "tricking" people into searching for an article on Muse is particularly the best way to introduce someone to a new music.

myARMISTICE
01/19/06, 03:24 PM
Their last album was pretty good. I think the drummer is incredible.



i totally agree....i think people need to look past these guys looks and realize they throw in some non typical and interesting elements to their music...

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:24 PM
So Jan 06 was MCR
Feb 06 was A7X
Mar 06 ????
Apr 06 FFTL

So who is on the cover for march?
Dunno yet.

leocorrea
01/19/06, 03:24 PM
I hate looking at these guys...for some reason every SINGLE picture i see of them (especially ones of the lead singer) i want to punch each and every one of them in the face. They drive me NUTS!
Then stop looking? Idiot.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:25 PM
i totally agree....i think people need to look past these guys looks and realize they throw in some non typical and interesting elements to their music...
So does Yanni, doesn't mean I want to listen to him.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:26 PM
Then stop looking? Idiot.
That's a great idea. I want to be given the choice to have a plain cover version of Alt. Press. Like, just all black or something ...

leocorrea
01/19/06, 03:26 PM
ive never bothered listening to Morrissey
and alternative press probably knows lots of other people haven't as well. I'd choose fftl too

asshat
01/19/06, 03:27 PM
jason remember that the fftl cd comes out in march and they are on the april cover.

if the morrisey cd comes out in april..maybe he will be on the cover of the may issue.

especially since the issues come out like a month before the actual month.

leocorrea
01/19/06, 03:28 PM
That's a great idea. I want to be given the choice to have a plain cover version of Alt. Press. Like, just all black or something ...
cry cry cry tatey
don't want to look at from first to last, don't get that AP issue. pow

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:29 PM
ive never bothered listening to Morrissey
and alternative press probably knows lots of other people haven't as well. I'd choose fftl too
Yah, seeing as his last album debuted at #11 in the US, #2 in the UK and has sold over 1 million copies worldwide as well as producing three Top Ten hits in the UK, I'd say he's pretty much unknown. :rolleyes:

With that said - listen to Morrissey, it's good for you. Without him, or The Smiths, I'd say with fair assertion most of the music you listen to would not exist.

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:29 PM
ive never bothered listening to Morrissey
and alternative press probably knows lots of other people haven't as well. I'd choose fftl too

It's all just a matter of principle and personal tastes. I know what sells magazines (I'm a marketing major lol) I'm just saying it would be nice if they got away once in a while from the trendy bands and had real musicians on the cover.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:30 PM
cry cry cry tatey
don't want to look at from first to last, don't get that AP issue. pow
How do you remove yourself from one month of a subscription?

:stfu:

Cocky Caucasion
01/19/06, 03:30 PM
that's because you're a from first to last groupie, what you say in this thread doesn't mean shit because you have terrible taste in music.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:31 PM
jason remember that the fftl cd comes out in march and they are on the april cover.

if the morrisey cd comes out in april..maybe he will be on the cover of the may issue.

especially since the issues come out like a month before the actual month.
Doubt it .. and FFTL comes out March 21st (I think), so April will equal more record sales because the album is out.

DaveFeelsRight
01/19/06, 03:33 PM
AP had some good cover in the past months(Underoath, Coheed, Brand New way back in 04) but yea this is just as shitty as The Advenged Sevenfold cover.

Cocky Caucasion
01/19/06, 03:33 PM
that's because you're a from first to last groupie, what you say in this thread doesn't mean shit because you have terrible taste in music.
that was to leocorrea by the way

leocorrea
01/19/06, 03:33 PM
Yah, seeing as his last album debuted at #11 in the US, #2 in the UK and has sold over 1 million copies worldwide as well as producing three Top Ten hits in the UK, I'd say he's pretty much unknown. :rolleyes:

With that said - listen to Morrissey, it's good for you. Without him, or The Smiths, I'd say with fair assertion most of the music you listen to would not exist.
maybe that's true. but how many people that read Alternative Press care about morrissey is what I'm saying. I don't know, and I'm sure you don't either.

everyone says things like that, but I don't care. i've listened to the Smiths before and didn't like it one bit. sorry vato :*

and to "Cocky Caucasion"
oh man that was good! and it also was good the last 300 times youve said the same thing in each other fftl thread.

asshat
01/19/06, 03:34 PM
that was to leocorrea by the way

if i recall correctly, dindt you used to like fftl a lot

on their old forum?

Cocky Caucasion
01/19/06, 03:35 PM
maybe that's true. but how many people that read Alternative Press care about morrissey is what I'm saying. I don't know, and I'm sure you don't either.

everyone says things like that, but I don't care. i've listened to the Smiths before and didn't like it one bit. sorry vato :*

and to "Cocky Caucasion"
oh man that was good! and it also was good the last 300 times youve said the same thing in each other fftl thread.
yeah I just like to reiterate the fact that you're an idiot.

besides...didnt a fftl song talk about listening to morrisey in a car or some shit like that?

Cocky Caucasion
01/19/06, 03:36 PM
if i recall correctly, dindt you used to like fftl a lot

on their old forum?
yes I did, back when they had their old singer.

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:36 PM
yeah I just like to reiterate the fact that you're an idiot.

besides...didnt a fftl song talk about listening to morrisey in a car or some shit like that?


haha, I think so...

asshat
01/19/06, 03:36 PM
yeah I just like to reiterate the fact that you're an idiot.

besides...didnt a fftl song talk about listening to morrisey in a car or some shit like that?

i think that it shows that youre an idiot just a little bit more when you say the same thing to him every damn time.

leocorrea
01/19/06, 03:36 PM
yeah I just like to reiterate the fact that you're an idiot.

besides...didnt a fftl song talk about listening to morrisey in a car or some shit like that?
yeah man I'm totally an idiot because I like a band you don't! whoa, watch it horsey!

yep there is a song talking about Morrissey... doesn't mean I'm going to like that artist just because a band I like does. now maybe thats how you work, but not me.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:37 PM
maybe that's true. but how many people that read Alternative Press care about morrissey is what I'm saying. I don't know, and I'm sure you don't either.

everyone says things like that, but I don't care. i've listened to the Smiths before and didn't like it one bit. sorry vato :*

and to "Cocky Caucasion"
oh man that was good! and it also was good the last 300 times youve said the same thing in each other fftl thread.
Did you just call me a "vato"? WTF?

As for "how many people that read Alternative Press care about morrissey" - the answer should be: EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Mainly because probably 99% of the bands in the magazine owe some sort of their sound or influence to something he's done for music.

LPMagic
01/19/06, 03:38 PM
How can you guys be surprised or disappointed at this point? Every fucking month, dozens of people reply on this same forum about the band on the cover of AP and every month it's people saying these same things over and over:

1. They suck.
2. There are better bands.
3. AP sucks.
4. Why can't they put a "good" band on the cover?
5. Wah wah wah

I think it's safe to say that complaining on AbsolutePunk.net isn't going to get your favorite / "underrated" / found in the corner of the underground scene band on the cover of a national publication.

- Jeff

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:39 PM
Did you just call me a "vato"? WTF?

As for "how many people that read Alternative Press care about morrissey" - the answer should be: EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Mainly because probably 99% of the bands in the magazine owe some sort of their sound or influence to something he's done for music.

Exactly.

asshat
01/19/06, 03:40 PM
Did you just call me a "vato"? WTF?

As for "how many people that read Alternative Press care about morrissey" - the answer should be: EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Mainly because 99% of the bands in the magazine owe some sort of their sound or influence to something he's done for music.

he called you vato cause leo is a mexican.

and theres a different between what the answer should be and what the answer actually is...ap is doing well right now with the bands they put on the cover...mcr, a7x..from a marketing/ownership viewpoint, would you want to change the success by putting someone on the cover that may not appeal to the people that have been buying the magazine lately

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:40 PM
How can you guys be surprised or disappointed at this point? Every fucking month, dozens of people reply on this same forum about the band on the cover of AP and every month it's people saying these same things over and over:

1. They suck.
2. There are better bands.
3. AP sucks.
4. Why can't they put a "good" band on the cover?
5. Wah wah wah

I think it's safe to say that complaining on AbsolutePunk.net isn't going to get your favorite / "underrated" / found in the corner of the underground scene band on the cover of a national publication.

- Jeff

Eh, it's just something to do.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:40 PM
How can you guys be surprised or disappointed at this point? Every fucking month, dozens of people reply on this same forum about the band on the cover of AP and every month it's people saying these same things over and over:

1. They suck.
2. There are better bands.
3. AP sucks.
4. Why can't they put a "good" band on the cover?
5. Wah wah wah

I think it's safe to say that complaining on AbsolutePunk.net isn't going to get your favorite / "underrated" / found in the corner of the underground scene band on the cover of a national publication.

- Jeff
But that doesn't mean we can't bitch about it!

asshat
01/19/06, 03:42 PM
ive been working with fftl with leo as leaders of their street teams for a year and a half and this is something thats a pretty big deal for them..especially considering i remember 2 years ago and no one knew who they were. its an accomplishment and im pretty proud...and as a leaders of their street team, its something leo and i have been working towards by helping them gain new fans.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:42 PM
he called you vato cause leo is a mexican.

and theres a different between what the answer should be and what the answer actually is...ap is doing well right now with the bands they put on the cover...mcr, a7x..from a marketing/ownership viewpoint, would you want to change the success by putting someone on the cover that may not appeal to the people that have been buying the magazine lately
Eh. What's a vato? I speak spanish and don't know that word.

As for your second question - personally, I would. But that's just me - I enjoy risk; and if I've brought in a bazillion goth kids with my last 2 album covers, I'd try and bring in a different crowd with the next 2, and so forth ... I dunno, diversity is good.

dukeboy1986
01/19/06, 03:43 PM
Well, if I wasn't already blind with myopia, I'll definitely be permanently blind....

NameTaken69
01/19/06, 03:43 PM
So does Yanni, doesn't mean I want to listen to him.
hahaha yanni, i cant believe it

LPMagic
01/19/06, 03:43 PM
Eh, it's just something to do.
Yeah, which is why I posted in the first place lol... I'm just saying to the people getting worked up, there's no need to. It's like knowing that you're going to get pissed off about something every month. You can either accept that you're going to be let down or let yourself get worked up over something that really means nothing.

But that doesn't mean we can't bitch about it!
A-fuckin-men. I'm all for discussion, debate, and sharing opinions. In fact, by posting what I did, I'm bitching myself.

- Jeff

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:44 PM
Eh. What's a vato? I speak spanish and don't know that word.

As for your second question - personally, I would. But that's just me - I enjoy risk; and if I've brought in a bazillion goth kids with my last 2 album covers, I'd try and bring in a different crowd with the next 2, and so forth ... I dunno, diversity is good.

It's mexican slang I think.

asshat
01/19/06, 03:44 PM
Eh. What's a vato? I speak spanish and don't know that word.

As for your second question - personally, I would. But that's just me - I enjoy risk; and if I've brought in a bazillion goth kids with my last 2 album covers, I'd try and bring in a different crowd with the next 2, and so forth ... I dunno, diversity is good.

vato means gangster in spanish.

diversity is good..and we'll see whats gonna be on the march cover. could be something for diversity!

NameTaken69
01/19/06, 03:45 PM
http://www.psu.edu/ur/archives/intercom_1998/April23/Yanni.GIF
wow

Sureshot182
01/19/06, 03:46 PM
well you may think differentey when the new cd drops.

everyone talks so much shit on this band, mostly based on the way they look which is pretty shitty.

they are more talented and actually doing stuff with the music they make than 95 percent of people on this board, and in my opinon, that deserves respect...even if you dont like what they are making.
well, they suck live. so with a few months and a producer i suppose they are "talented" if you like horrible music. i'm not here to trash them though. they are going to blow up and become stars. good for them.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:47 PM
ive been working with fftl with leo as leaders of their street teams for a year and a half and this is something thats a pretty big deal for them..especially considering i remember 2 years ago and no one knew who they were. its an accomplishment and im pretty proud...and as a leaders of their street team, its something leo and i have been working towards by helping them gain new fans.
I never would have guessed you two were leaders of the FFTL street-team. I am glad you're proud of this band, and have worked hard to promote them to new listeners - but I don't like them, or think they really deserve to be on the cover of Alt. Press. But hey, that's just me - it's not my magazine, and it's just a personal opinion. Doesn't mean we'll stop covering news about them here on AP - just means, I'm not a fan. I post news, stories, articles, about bands I personally don't like all the time ... so I get it! I'm only saying I'd just never feature/cover-story a band I didn't like just to bring in new visitors.

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:47 PM
http://vu.morrissey-solo.com/moz/mags/ap.jpg

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:48 PM
well, they suck live. so with a few months and a producer i suppose they are "talented" if you like horrible music. i'm not here to trash them though. they are going to blow up and become stars. good for them.
And studio musicians.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:48 PM
http://vu.morrissey-solo.com/moz/mags/ap.jpg
Amazing. I want that issue.

dai the flu
01/19/06, 03:49 PM
you guys wanted smaller unknown bands on the cover, you get it, now you bash them some more. i cant stand this place.

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:49 PM
Amazing. I want that issue.


It's been done before. Those bastards can do it again!

asshat
01/19/06, 03:49 PM
I never would have guessed you two were leaders of the FFTL street-team. I am glad you're proud of this band, and have worked hard to promote them to new listeners - but I don't like them, or think they really deserve to be on the cover of Alt. Press. But hey, that's just me - it's not my magazine, and it's just a personal opinion. Doesn't mean we'll stop covering news about them here on AP - just means, I'm not a fan. I post news, stories, articles, about bands I personally don't like all the time ... so I get it! I'm only saying I'd just never feature/cover-story a band I didn't like just to bring in new visitors.

thats fine and im not saying i dont respect your opinion or that im trying to get you to like them..i just hate that they are one of the most trashed bands on this site, when most of it doesnt even have to do with their music.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 03:50 PM
Know who should have a cover in March/April? Saves The Day.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 03:50 PM
you guys wanted smaller unknown bands on the cover, you get it, now you bash them some more. i cant stand this place.

FFTL is not a small unknown band.

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:50 PM
you guys wanted smaller unknown bands on the cover, you get it, now you bash them some more. i cant stand this place.

Morrissey is smaller and unknown.....hmm I did not know this.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:51 PM
you guys wanted smaller unknown bands on the cover, you get it, now you bash them some more. i cant stand this place.
Smaller unknown? They've sold over 100K copies of their last CD, been all over Fuse, recorded with a producer who probably costs close to a million bucks, had Wes Borlan play on their album, and are rumored to have been sold for a shit-load of money to a major label. That's really not what I use as a definition of a "smaller unkown band."

NameTaken69
01/19/06, 03:51 PM
when was that issue with morrissey?

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:52 PM
thats fine and im not saying i dont respect your opinion or that im trying to get you to like them..i just hate that they are one of the most trashed bands on this site, when most of it doesnt even have to do with their music.
I'd say most of it does have to do with their music (at least for me it does). I don't listen or not listen to bands because of what they look like. I would like to think most of our readers don't either ... I'd say more people in this world LISTEN to bands because of what they look like .. but that may be generalizing.

NameTaken69
01/19/06, 03:52 PM
Know who should have a cover in March/April? Saves The Day.
that would be so sweet

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:53 PM
when was that issue with morrissey?

February 1993

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:53 PM
when was that issue with morrissey?
Feb. 1993.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 03:54 PM
that would be so sweet

If STD doesn't get a cover, then something is seriously wrong with AltPress.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:54 PM
February 1993
Damn you! Beat me to it .. haha.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 03:54 PM
Morrissey is smaller and unknown.....hmm I did not know this.
Haha, yah, I am saying I want a HUGE artist on the cover .. haha. O well.

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:55 PM
Damn you! Beat me to it .. haha.

hehe, I should know the date, I did post the cover.

moore182
01/19/06, 03:55 PM
Know who should have a cover in March/April? Saves The Day.
Jason should make that a contest...guess who will be on the March cover!

I say Angels and Airwaves.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 03:55 PM
STD, Early November, and Thursday better get covers this year.

NameTaken69
01/19/06, 03:56 PM
If STD doesn't get a cover, then something is seriously wrong with AltPress.
very very true. i would love to see the early november with a cover this year, but maybe thats just me

NameTaken69
01/19/06, 03:56 PM
STD, Early November, and Thursday better get covers this year.
shit you beat me

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 03:56 PM
Jason should make that a contest...guess who will be on the March cover!

I say Angels and Airwaves.

I bet A&A will be on the May cover, since their new album releases in May, and the May issue will hit newsstands in April.

asshat
01/19/06, 03:57 PM
I'd say most of it does have to do with their music (at least for me it does). I don't listen or not listen to bands because of what they look like. I would like to think most of our readers don't either ... I'd say more people in this world LISTEN to bands because of what they look like .. but that may be generalizing.

well, so often, i see a topic about fftl and read some replies, and people are bashing them cause of the way they dress or the amount of make up they wear.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 03:57 PM
The last good AltPress cover was the Underoath one, since then, they've been from alright to horrific.

NameTaken69
01/19/06, 03:59 PM
The last good AltPress cover was the Underoath one, since then, they've been from alright to horrific.
who knows, maybe they will be on the cover this year when they release one of the best albums of the year. god i cant wait for that

unwritten
01/19/06, 03:59 PM
I bet A&A will be on the May cover, since their new album releases in May, and the May issue will hit newsstands in April.

No Plus-44 cover you think?

thatsignant
01/19/06, 04:01 PM
tate are you just mentioning bands fom "mix tape" by brand new to sound cool.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 04:01 PM
No Plus-44 cover you think?

Not in May, since A&A is releasing their album then. I could see a Plus 44 cover in the summer. Or even better, AltPress could do the two different covers for one month deal, with A&A being one and Plus 44 the other. That would be neat.

moore182
01/19/06, 04:01 PM
No Plus-44 cover you think?
I wonder how much of Plus-44 is done...

moore182
01/19/06, 04:01 PM
Not in May, since A&A is releasing their album then. I could see a Plus 44 cover in the summer. Or even better, AltPress could do the two different covers for one month deal, with A&A being one and Plus 44 the other. That would be neat.
That would be crazy.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 04:02 PM
who knows, maybe they will be on the cover this year when they release one of the best albums of the year. god i cant wait for that

I love UO, but I hope they aren't on the cover again this year, space it out, I want to see other bands on the cover who haven't been on it before.

unwritten
01/19/06, 04:02 PM
I wonder how much of Plus-44 is done...

Same here...

NameTaken69
01/19/06, 04:04 PM
I love UO, but I hope they aren't on the cover again this year, space it out, I want to see other bands on the cover who haven't been on it before.
yea i really would love it if the early november got a cover, they deserve it

duffe
01/19/06, 04:04 PM
Oh.

Greg
01/19/06, 04:05 PM
wow

all this fuss over such a terrible band

dai the flu
01/19/06, 04:06 PM
Smaller unknown? They've sold over 100K copies of their last CD, been all over Fuse, recorded with a producer who probably costs close to a million bucks, had Wes Borlan play on their album, and are rumored to have been sold for a shit-load of money to a major label. That's really not what I use as a definition of a "smaller unkown band."

and saves the day is smaller and unknown? underoath? give me a break.

moore182
01/19/06, 04:06 PM
yea i really would love it if the early november got a cover, they deserve it
New Ten is off the chain.

Grybo
01/19/06, 04:07 PM
everyone should quit ther bitching.
un subscribe
and subscribe to filter.
good quality and lets see
last month on the cover was the flaming lips?
you cant beat that

yutsmcgee
01/19/06, 04:07 PM
i'm seeing them tonight with Story of the Year and Everytime I Die. Ironic

Greg
01/19/06, 04:08 PM
and saves the day is smaller and unknown? underoath? give me a break.
saves the day is 100 times better than FFTL

so if we are gonna have bigger bands on the cover atleast make them good

histrionics22
01/19/06, 04:11 PM
Smaller unknown? They've sold over 100K copies of their last CD, been all over Fuse, recorded with a producer who probably costs close to a million bucks, had Wes Borlan play on their album, and are rumored to have been sold for a shit-load of money to a major label. That's really not what I use as a definition of a "smaller unkown band."

Yet they have yet to get airplay on a radio station. FUSE isn't carried everywhere in the United States. No one looks at who produces an album, and I guarantee the average fan of the band didn't even know FFTL has Wes play for a few dates or on the new album.

He was making the point of how people complained when MCR of A7X were put on the magazine cover when they are already big. People complained about it. Now they opt for a smaller band and people want Morrissey who sold a lot more records than FFTL. It's very hypocrital.

Carrot
01/19/06, 04:11 PM
I am on Leo and asshat's side on this one. I have been a fan of FFTL for about 2 and a half years now and I am excited for them to hear that they will be on the cover of Alt Press. They really do deserve it, and are one of the few bands of that style that I still listen to because something about htem stands out from the rest. And from what I hear, the new album is supposed to be really different and great, so everybody just wait until then and maybe you will think different.

say.anything
01/19/06, 04:12 PM
so i'm thinking for the march edition: 100 bands you need to know in 2006

the early november/motion city soundtrack for the double covers

two bands you haven't

your thoughts?

yutsmcgee
01/19/06, 04:13 PM
so i'm thinking for the march edition: 100 bands you need to know in 2006

the early november/motion city soundtrack for the double covers

two bands you haven't

your thoughts?

maybe TEN, but not MCS. no way

unwritten
01/19/06, 04:15 PM
Well, this was fun.

histrionics22
01/19/06, 04:15 PM
I'd say most of it does have to do with their music (at least for me it does). I don't listen or not listen to bands because of what they look like. I would like to think most of our readers don't either ... I'd say more people in this world LISTEN to bands because of what they look like .. but that may be generalizing.

I honestly think you're wrong. You probably don't look at the FFTL threads which is understandable since you dont like them. All anyone talks about is how ridiculous they look. Its sad. I really don't mind if people don't like the music. But I believe most people here have written them off without even listening to the music.

Greg
01/19/06, 04:16 PM
yea why MCS?

i love them. but they have no reason to be in the spotlight then.

punkrockvideos
01/19/06, 04:17 PM
the new FFTL single is REALLY good.

and morrisey is a ***.

Greg
01/19/06, 04:18 PM
the new FFTL single is REALLY good.

and morrisey is a ***.
couldn't be more wrong

Grybo
01/19/06, 04:20 PM
switch to filter!

Greg
01/19/06, 04:21 PM
switch to filter!
do you work for them or something?

yutsmcgee
01/19/06, 04:25 PM
switch to filter!
haha, yea

get off filter's dick

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 04:26 PM
Just to say, I bet that AltPress will put P!ATD on the cover on the Band You Need To Know in 2006 cover, you know they will.

yutsmcgee
01/19/06, 04:27 PM
Just to say, I bet that AltPress will put P!ATD on the cover on the Band You Need To Know in 2006 cover, you know they will.

either them or TAI...

Grybo
01/19/06, 04:28 PM
no im just saying.
they are better
so stop complaining

yutsmcgee
01/19/06, 04:28 PM
no im just sayign.
they are better
so stop complaining

i luv ap, never complained

Grybo
01/19/06, 04:32 PM
then stick with it.
i like it to. i could care less whoose on the cover.
its not like if there was a good band on there id stare at them for hours.
i understand about getting the word out about smaller bands but really the bigger bands attract more people to read the magazine with smaller bands on the inside.

p.s. sonny is an ugly little bitch

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 04:36 PM
either them or TAI...

Haha, they'll have FBR duel cover of P!ATD and TAI, that wouldn't surprise me. Another good cover for that issue would be Armor For Sleep IMO.

heyRomanticA__x
01/19/06, 04:37 PM
Eh, it's just a magazine cover.

End is Forever
01/19/06, 04:39 PM
Why didn't Death Cab get a cover?
Spin> Alt.Press

yutsmcgee
01/19/06, 04:41 PM
Haha, they'll have FBR duel cover of P!ATD and TAI, that wouldn't surprise me. Another good cover for that issue would be Armor For Sleep IMO.

Oh, that's so it. It could really by Armor. And I'd love that.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 04:41 PM
Why didn't Death Cab get a cover?
Spin> Alt.Press

Hahaha, noooo, I wouldn't go that far. AltPress has way better articles on stuff that interests me, while Spin may have better covers, AltPress has better articles.

BlackSheepBoy
01/19/06, 04:41 PM
My Chemical Romance, Avenged Sevenfold, and now From First to Last.....geez

I know you guys are going to notice the biased but Alt. Press gave Okkervil River a five star review (yea, right up there with the new Yellowcard, Fall Out Boy, and Starting Line, what a joke), TONS of indie fans and e-zines have put Black Sheep Boy on their top ten list of 2005, and in a recent interview I read the guys are probably going to call it quits soon because they are flat broke. Why not get Will Sheff and Co. some publicity? Damn, anyone who has heard even one of their albums knows they deserve it. I know this is just a pipe dream and that would never happen because all the 15 year old "OMG-ers" wouldn't know who they were......anyway....just a thought....there are a ton of bands who deserve a cover but will never get it.....*cough, cough PELICAN, GATSBY'S*cough, cough*

End is Forever
01/19/06, 04:42 PM
Why didn't Death Cab get a cover?
Spin> Alt.Press
Now that you think about it, why not MCS? or Armor for Sleep? If they put FOB (don't get me wrong, I love them) on the cover back when they were on FBR, why can't they help out the lesser known bands. There's nothing "Alternative" about putting the same bands on the cover month after month.

End is Forever
01/19/06, 04:43 PM
Hahaha, noooo, I wouldn't go that far. AltPress has way better articles on stuff that interests me, while Spin may have better covers, AltPress has better articles.
The last few issues of Spin I picked up were alot better I think. Alt. Press is good, but I feel like a little girl looking at a Bop! when I read it in the stores. It's just a matter of opinion I guess.

Drew Beringer
01/19/06, 04:47 PM
The last few issues of Spin I picked up were alot better I think, Alt. Press is good, but I feel like a little girl looking at a Bop! when I read it in the stores. It's just a matter of opinion I guess.

I agree, because I do like Spin. It's just always hit or miss with both magazines.

Member
01/19/06, 04:52 PM
If March is the 100 bands you need to know, It will be Panic! At the Disco for sure.

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 05:08 PM
the new FFTL single is REALLY good.

and morrisey is a ***.
Part of me really never wants to post about your website again for that comment - that's how idiotic I find it.

jfb392
01/19/06, 05:15 PM
FFTL are horrible.
It's just pointless screaming.
Doesn't help that Sonny is the biggest tool in our scene either.

LPMagic
01/19/06, 05:18 PM
FFTL are horrible.
It's just pointless screaming.
Doesn't help that Sonny is the biggest tool in our scene either.
Pilot to copilot, there is no scene. Sugar, we're going down!

- Jeff

histrionics22
01/19/06, 05:19 PM
FFTL are horrible.
It's just pointless screaming.
Doesn't help that Sonny is the biggest tool in our scene either.

Here's your example Jason. Looking at Sonny while hearing one song. FFTL rarely screams.

(SceneNameHere)
01/19/06, 05:22 PM
People buy Alt. Press? That's funny.

wesgemm08
01/19/06, 05:23 PM
this magazine will gain my respect if they put bands like converge and dillinger escape plan on their cover when their cd's are released, but they wont.. they'll just stay with bands like fftl and avenged sevenfold

Greg
01/19/06, 05:25 PM
Pilot to copilot, there is no scene. Sugar, we're going down!

- Jeff
that was terrible

-jeff

Jason Tate
01/19/06, 05:33 PM
Here's your example Jason. Looking at Sonny while hearing one song. FFTL rarely screams.
Rarely screams? Dude. I have the CD, I have heard it - if that's not "screaming" - than I have no idea WHAT you call that "sound."

i like apples
01/19/06, 05:35 PM
has any1 heard the new cd?

tcemoo
01/19/06, 05:36 PM
more people would buy that magazine if they picked up a random bum off the street and put him on the cover.

why the hell would you want something that ugly on the cover of your magazine?

ivyleague339
01/19/06, 05:58 PM
over rated

splitsecond
01/19/06, 05:58 PM
I wonder how much Epitaph paid for the cover. What a horrible band, and honestly, a horrible magazine.

screamoutmyname
01/19/06, 06:02 PM
AP makes every band look extremelely ridiculous on the cover.

Coheed, Avenged Sevenfold, etc.

Fall out Boy and FFTL, however, come naturally.

LPMagic
01/19/06, 06:09 PM
that was terrible

-jeff
It truly was. I suck.

-greg

myARMISTICE
01/19/06, 06:18 PM
FROM FIRST TO LAST is the SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


all you people bashing them Suck!



-sorry guys i just had to get that out

dukeboy1986
01/19/06, 06:34 PM
Know who should have a cover in March/April? Saves The Day.

AGREED

actionandaction
01/19/06, 06:43 PM
i'm going to see this band saturday...with ETID! woo!

ChadKnight
01/19/06, 06:49 PM
how the hell do they now what to put in the cover of a magazine that's 2 months away?

Manbotisdead
01/19/06, 07:56 PM
can alt press EVER recover from this lack of talent theyve been putting on the cover?

MCR
Avenged Sevenfold
FFTL

Maybe, once good albums start coming out like Brand New, Thursday, Portugal. The Man, they'll put those bands on the cover and make the magazine back to good

Avenged sevenfold's music is probably some of the more complex stuff to come out in a while. You may not like them, but they put brand new and thursday to shame in every department except for vocally because Shadows doesn't sing well. If you seriously think that the rev is a bad drummer or their guitar players aren't really good then you geniunely have no idea what you are talking about.

FFTL is not my cup of tea, but Derek the drummer is really quite talented so to say these bands have a lack of talent is ridiculous.

Manbotisdead
01/19/06, 07:58 PM
Comparable to other things that are out there (and the three bands he mentioned), I'd say the talent is less in MCR/AV7/FFTL than Brand New/Thursday/P. The Man.

Tate I genuinely think you are mistaken in the case of avenged sevenfold. They may be gimicky, but they do know their music well. The other two is debatable, but Portugal and Brand New aren't anywhere near it and Thursday's singer is offkey alot.

IamTheINDUSTRY
01/19/06, 08:03 PM
their last album ruled...i dont understand the hatred for this band...i mean they are 50 times better than senses fail in every aspect. and they are no good charlotte so what gives....i like fftl....a lot.

Toast&Bananas
01/19/06, 08:07 PM
payola?

IamTheINDUSTRY
01/19/06, 08:10 PM
i forgot to say...yeah their image might not be the best...but hey...i mean they are young guys. they'll grow in to it. the music is already there.

jon.fftl
01/19/06, 08:12 PM
I don't understand the hatred for FFTL either. They rule.

A picasso blue
01/19/06, 08:13 PM
their last album ruled...i dont understand the hatred for this band...i mean they are 50 times better than senses fail in every aspect. and they are no good charlotte so what gives....i like fftl....a lot.
"50 times better than Senses Fail"

yeah, that means a lot..

wesgemm08
01/19/06, 08:47 PM
Avenged sevenfold's music is probably some of the more complex stuff to come out in a while. You may not like them, but they put brand new and thursday to shame in every department except for vocally because Shadows doesn't sing well. If you seriously think that the rev is a bad drummer or their guitar players aren't really good then you geniunely have no idea what you are talking about.

FFTL is not my cup of tea, but Derek the drummer is really quite talented so to say these bands have a lack of talent is ridiculous.

avenged sevenfold really isnt that complex stuff at all.. i could go threw a hundred or more cd's from this year alone that are alot more "complex" than the crap they put out

the red chord, black dahlia murder, into the moat, the mars volta, ed gein.. i dont really feel like name dropping anymore but if u want me to keep going i will

lovewithcaution
01/19/06, 08:55 PM
Y'all fuckers just wait till this cd comes out. It's going to blow your balls off. I can't wait to see everyone saying how bad ass they are when they hear this new shit.

RockVocalPower
01/19/06, 08:55 PM
"50 times better than Senses Fail"

yeah, that means a lot..

Fifty time zero still equals zero.

Manbotisdead
01/19/06, 08:56 PM
avenged sevenfold really isnt that complex stuff at all.. i could go threw a hundred or more cd's from this year alone that are alot more "complex" than the crap they put out

the red chord, black dahlia murder, into the moat, the mars volta, ed gein.. i dont really feel like name dropping anymore but if u want me to keep going i will

please feel free, but i genuinely think that they put music together well and to insult them is ridiculous. You are right about into the moat and mars volta.

wesgemm08
01/19/06, 08:59 PM
please feel free, but i genuinely think that they put music together well and to insult them is ridiculous. You are right about into the moat and mars volta.

just listen to black dahlia murder and u'll hear what avenged sevenfold wishes they could pull off

Frank Giaramita
01/19/06, 09:07 PM
i think that it shows that youre an idiot just a little bit more when you say the same thing to him every damn time.
give it up dude, you're life long dream of everybody loving From First To Last isn't coming true.

Manbotisdead
01/19/06, 09:18 PM
just listen to black dahlia murder and u'll hear what avenged sevenfold wishes they could pull off

They were tight, but their drummer wasn't as good as the rev from what i heard. Even if you don't like Sevenfold, you should be able to recognize technical skill.

wesgemm08
01/19/06, 09:24 PM
They were tight, but their drummer wasn't as good as the rev from what i heard. Even if you don't like Sevenfold, you should be able to recognize technical skill.

black dahlia's drummer plays a lot faster and hits a lot harder

myARMISTICE
01/19/06, 10:17 PM
They were tight, but their drummer wasn't as good as the rev from what i heard. Even if you don't like Sevenfold, you should be able to recognize technical skill.


a7x has rediculous guitar solos, that, you must give them

myARMISTICE
01/19/06, 10:20 PM
I don't understand the hatred for FFTL either. They rule.


because alot of people refuse to look past their image, which is a shame, cuz they are missing out by being superficial


fftl owns: i don't care what they look like or that most of their fans are screaming little girls, all i care about is the music, thats it!

asshat
01/19/06, 10:45 PM
give it up dude, you're life long dream of everybody loving From First To Last isn't coming true.

i dont have that life long dream, and in that post i wasnt even trying to defend from first to last..i was defending my friend leo..and im sick of that kid saying the same thing to him every time. and if you kept reading the topic, youd come to see that leo and i actually run their street team, so its not a life long dream of mine, but it is part of my job to try and get as many people to like them.

NationalProduct
01/20/06, 03:28 AM
avenged sevenfold and no talent?

some of those guitar solos are pretty intense

i agree, saying these bands have no talent is pretty retarded. Especially A7X, just because you dont like their music does not denote talent. I dont like alot of bands but clear logic is that i couldnt fuckin play nearly as good as almost all of them which means they have talent. to what extreme, obviously A7X for what they do has more talent then the average metal band. They didnt sell records based on the way they look dude. I just saying...fuck i dont even care, its 3am, i should be beating off or something

OurLittleTraged
01/20/06, 05:45 AM
honestly this thread makes me sick...all of you are trashing FFTL for no good reason what so ever. They produced a great CD with the addition of Sonny, with creative vocals, great drums, and decent guitar work. The truth is the only reason people hate on them is because they sport the "emo" look....give it up, they are way better than any of you could ever imagine to be. Give em credit and prepare yourselves for the new disc.

wesgemm08
01/20/06, 06:22 AM
i agree, saying these bands have no talent is pretty retarded. Especially A7X, just because you dont like their music does not denote talent. I dont like alot of bands but clear logic is that i couldnt fuckin play nearly as good as almost all of them which means they have talent. to what extreme, obviously A7X for what they do has more talent then the average metal band. They didnt sell records based on the way they look dude. I just saying...fuck i dont even care, its 3am, i should be beating off or something


you guys arguing for a7x prolly think slash and other 80's metal players r the best guitarists ever.. give me a break

..i never said they had "no talent", they are decent musicians, all i'm saying is their stuff isnt as complex as everyone on here makes it out to be

TheUntitled
01/20/06, 07:13 AM
avenged sevenfold and no talent?

some of those guitar solos are pretty intense

Just because you can play a guitar solo, it doesn't make your music any less horrible...

iloseinterest
01/20/06, 09:48 AM
So Jan 06 was MCR
Feb 06 was A7X
Mar 06 ????
Apr 06 FFTL

So who is on the cover for march?


twisted sister !!!

myARMISTICE
01/20/06, 11:06 AM
if you can't admit that A7X sports some fucking awesome guitar solos with intense harmonies, your just flat out ignorant...


yes A7X are cheesy, yes they look like fuckin idiots, yes the new album is nowhere near as cool as Waking the Fallen....but they are fucking talented

Suprhatch614
01/20/06, 12:26 PM
some tie-eye-eye-eye-eye-imes I don't know whyaaaaa, we rather live than die-ey-a! hahaha...this song makes me laugh what a funny video...and crappy singer

rickyterror
01/21/06, 12:24 PM
Hey Jason, are you 8 years old? Because you're doing a fantastic job at acting like a child.

If you choose to post "news" about From First to Last on you're site to go into the comments and talk shit about them then maybe you should just not post "news" about them period.

Listen, you need to put on your diaper, get your bottle of warm milk out, get under the covers, and take a little nap cause you are one cranky little baby...

wwaaaaaaaaaaaahhh waaaaaaaah