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WithStamin
03/15/03, 04:59 PM
Look at this (http://www.votetoimpeach.org/).

BrandNewRock05
03/15/03, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by WithStamin
Look at this (http://www.votetoimpeach.org/).
Holy shit. I bet you five bucks the web designers were high when they made this. Seriously grow up. My god, bitch about something else.

yeat182
03/15/03, 07:12 PM
why would the country impeach the president if 71% of the citizens agree with his stance on Iraq?

BrandNewRock05
03/16/03, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by yeat182
why would the country impeach the president if 71% of the citizens agree with his stance on Iraq?
Are they aware that the president has to do something WRONG to be impeached?

The Nephilm
03/16/03, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by yeat182
why would the country impeach the president if 71% of the citizens agree with his stance on Iraq?

it's a hell of a lot less than 71%

59% of Americans are willing to go to war ONLY WITH UN BACKING. Since we aren't going to get that, the majority of the population OPPOSES what the president is going to do. Therefore asking for the fucking monkey to be impeached isn't unreasonable. His crimes are a lot fucking worse than Clinton's.

WithStamin
03/16/03, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
it's a hell of a lot less than 71%

59% of Americans are willing to go to war ONLY WITH UN BACKING. Since we aren't going to get that, the majority of the population OPPOSES what the president is going to do. Therefore asking for the fucking monkey to be impeached isn't unreasonable. His crimes are a lot fucking worse than Clinton's. According to the polls I've seem it's 60% for, 40% against, regardless of the UN. Even if it was 100% against, name one crime he has comitted.

The Nephilm
03/16/03, 08:07 AM
1) Not telling the public about the Enron scandal before it broke. It happened before he was in office, but he and Chaney both knew about it at the time, yet didn't say anything.

2) Not informing the public that there was a terrorist attack planned around 9/11.

3) He is about to invade and destroy a country that poses ZERO threat to the US without UN jurisdiction.

and then we can look at the fact that he seriously is on the same intellegence level as a 5th grader. and I'm not just talking about his illitiracy. The man asked the president of Brazil if many black people lived in his country. And there are countless other instances that he has completely made an ass of himself, which has completely destroyed the US reputation around the world. We are the fucking punch line of the universe because of our president.

WithStamin
03/16/03, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
1) Not telling the public about the Enron scandal before it broke. It happened before he was in office, but he and Chaney both knew about it at the time, yet didn't say anything.

2) Not informing the public that there was a terrorist attack planned around 9/11.

3) He is about to invade and destroy a country that poses ZERO threat to the US without UN jurisdiction.

and then we can look at the fact that he seriously is on the same intellegence level as a 5th grader. and I'm not just talking about his illitiracy. The man asked the president of Brazil if many black people lived in his country. And there are countless other instances that he has completely made an ass of himself, which has completely destroyed the US reputation around the world. We are the fucking punch line of the universe because of our president. Are any of these grounds for impeachment, or even true? No. Shh.

yeat182
03/16/03, 09:08 AM
no, acutally, it is 71%....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81023,00.html

NOFXdesendents5
03/16/03, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
1) Not telling the public about the Enron scandal before it broke. It happened before he was in office, but he and Chaney both knew about it at the time, yet didn't say anything.

2) Not informing the public that there was a terrorist attack planned around 9/11.

3) He is about to invade and destroy a country that poses ZERO threat to the US without UN jurisdiction.

and then we can look at the fact that he seriously is on the same intellegence level as a 5th grader. and I'm not just talking about his illitiracy. The man asked the president of Brazil if many black people lived in his country. And there are countless other instances that he has completely made an ass of himself, which has completely destroyed the US reputation around the world. We are the fucking punch line of the universe because of our president.

1.) Yeah, I'm sure our President would just let our economy collapse on purpose. He did not know about it and neither did Cheney .

2.) Clinton let Osama get away! Jordan I believe captured him and Clinton did not even take him into US custody when he was asked. Bush didnt know. Hearing a terrorist say "attack the US" ,like we intercept in every President's term, is very different then hearing "we are going to destroy the world trade center on September 11 2001."

3.) A country who hates us, has weapons of massdestruction(which we have found), disobeys UN orders for 12 years, kills its own citizens, is run by a dictator, has intermediate missiles and the reason to fire them at our allie(s) and us is no threat? Okay, your a fucking moron.

Justin_stacy
03/16/03, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by NOFXdesendents5

2.) Clinton let Osama get away! Jordan I believe captured him and Clinton did not even take him into US custody when he was asked. Bush didnt know. Hearing a terrorist say "attack the US" ,like we intercept in every President's term, is very different then hearing "we are going to destroy the world trade center on September 11 2001."


It was sudan, but good pionts.

The Nephilm
03/16/03, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by NOFXdesendents5
1.) Yeah, I'm sure our President would just let our economy collapse on purpose. He did not know about it and neither did Cheney .

2.) Clinton let Osama get away! Jordan I believe captured him and Clinton did not even take him into US custody when he was asked. Bush didnt know. Hearing a terrorist say "attack the US" ,like we intercept in every President's term, is very different then hearing "we are going to destroy the world trade center on September 11 2001."

3.) A country who hates us, has weapons of massdestruction(which we have found), disobeys UN orders for 12 years, kills its own citizens, is run by a dictator, has intermediate missiles and the reason to fire them at our allie(s) and us is no threat? Okay, your a fucking moron.

1) Bush and Chaney knew full well about the scandals, but didn't say anything BECAUSE ENRON WERE GIVING THEM CAMPAIGN FUNDS!@!@!@!@!@!

2) The CIA had intellegence that president knew about saying that a terrorist attack was being planned by Al-Queda and that it was imminant a day or two before the attacks. Had he simply slipped that info to airlines, maybe their security would have been tightened, and fuck who knows the attacks may have been prevented. The fact is that he didn't tell ANYONE, and the plan was carried out.

3) WE HAVE NOT FOUND WMDS. Stop saying we have. And even if they did... there is no way that they could reach us. Wish boarder security as tight as it is, there is no way ANYONE is sneaking a nuke into this country. He hasn't been 'disobeying' UN orders like you republican clones like to spit out in every argument... he has been disarming, and then new resolutions have passed, and he has disarmed again, and then new resultions were passed, etc. etc. etc. He has been obeying, just not completely. Plenty of other countries kill their own people. I didn't see you crying when Indonesia commited genocide against the people of East Timor. Oh yea, YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE US MEDIA REFUSED TO COVER IT. Isreal doesn't want us to attack because they know they are going to get bombed the second we do. Our ALLIES don't even want us to attack.

yeat182
03/16/03, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
Wish boarder security as tight as it is, there is no way ANYONE is sneaking a nuke into this country. He hasn't been 'disobeying' UN orders like you republican clones like to spit out in every argument... he has been disarming, and then new resolutions have passed, and he has disarmed again, and then new resultions were passed, etc. etc. etc. He has been obeying, just not completely. .

border security is anything but tight. they could stroll across the border with Canada easily, and obviously the border with mexico is little better. how could we keep terrorists out when we can keep out drugs or illegal immigrants?

the Ukraine and South Africa disarmed immediately, Iraq has not. it doesn't take 12 years to do it. 1441 called for "immediate" disarmarment, not, "if we find something, then you destroy it, but if we don't find it, its ok to keep it."

The Nephilm
03/16/03, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by yeat182
border security is anything but tight. they could stroll across the border with Canada easily, and obviously the border with mexico is little better. how could we keep terrorists out when we can keep out drugs or illegal immigrants?

the Ukraine and South Africa disarmed immediately, Iraq has not. it doesn't take 12 years to do it. 1441 called for "immediate" disarmarment, not, "if we find something, then you destroy it, but if we don't find it, its ok to keep it."

were not talking about crawling under a fence and running through the mountains, a WMD would have to be transported by a large truck on a populated road, and I promise you EVERY one of those gets searched.

yes with the 1441 they aren't complying fully, however they didn't "disobey" UN orders before.

NOFXdesendents5
03/16/03, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
1) Bush and Chaney knew full well about the scandals, but didn't say anything BECAUSE ENRON WERE GIVING THEM CAMPAIGN FUNDS!@!@!@!@!@!

2) The CIA had intellegence that president knew about saying that a terrorist attack was being planned by Al-Queda and that it was imminant a day or two before the attacks. Had he simply slipped that info to airlines, maybe their security would have been tightened, and fuck who knows the attacks may have been prevented. The fact is that he didn't tell ANYONE, and the plan was carried out.

3) WE HAVE NOT FOUND WMDS. Stop saying we have. And even if they did... there is no way that they could reach us. Wish boarder security as tight as it is, there is no way ANYONE is sneaking a nuke into this country. He hasn't been 'disobeying' UN orders like you republican clones like to spit out in every argument... he has been disarming, and then new resolutions have passed, and he has disarmed again, and then new resultions were passed, etc. etc. etc. He has been obeying, just not completely. Plenty of other countries kill their own people. I didn't see you crying when Indonesia commited genocide against the people of East Timor. Oh yea, YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE US MEDIA REFUSED TO COVER IT. Isreal doesn't want us to attack because they know they are going to get bombed the second we do. Our ALLIES don't even want us to attack.


1.) "...BECAUSE ENRON WERE GIVING THEM CAMPAIGN FUNDS...."
Although I think your wrong, that would have meant that Bush and Cheney , with an 'e', were not in the White House yet.

2.) You probably watched mainstream media stations to get this. They want a fucking story! They dont care if they lie, they want to stir controversey to make news! Even if the CIA had known the exact date like you think they did, what the fuck would the difference have been? You cant cancel all flights without a reason, otherwise people like yourself will start making fun of him for that. You cant tell the world, people will panic and the economy would plumit worse than when the attacks happened. Even if the airports knew, they couldnt do anything on such short notice.

3.) "He has been obeying, just not completely", okay if you don't obey completely, that means you arent doing what they are saying, which means you are DISOBEYING! I didnt see you crying when the Armenian genocide took place, a long fucking time ago.

Justin_stacy
03/16/03, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
were not talking about crawling under a fence and running through the mountains, a WMD would have to be transported by a large truck on a populated road, and I promise you EVERY one of those gets searched.


actually a dirty nuc. can be stored in a suit case. AND i promise you that not every truck coming over is search probably not even half of them. That is why we need the national guard on the borders to keep stuff from coming over.

yeat182
03/16/03, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
were not talking about crawling under a fence and running through the mountains, a WMD would have to be transported by a large truck on a populated road, and I promise you EVERY one of those gets searched.

yes with the 1441 they aren't complying fully, however they didn't "disobey" UN orders before.

well, chemical and biological weapons could be smuggled on a person, remember the anthrax letters? but a nuke or large quanities of chem/bio weapons would have to be brought on truck/boat. the shipyards are pretty unsecure still, though.

and i suppose we could argue that by not complying they are disobeying, but i understand your point.