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WithStamin
03/16/03, 08:38 AM
I just finished watching a press conference on ABC by the leaders of the UK, US, Portugal, and Spain. They said that tomorrow is the "day of reckoning". Read about it here (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81201,00.html).

Watching that, I realized how bad a speaker President Bush is. A lot of the time he's just kind of searching for the words to say what he's thinking. He has great ideas, but he can't communicate them very well. For example, he said that the UN had to use it's "legs of responsibility". That's just kind of dumb. Blair is such a good speaker. I wish Bush could be that good.
evil zach
03/16/03, 08:43 AM
The decison is has alredy been made. The war will start tomorow.
WithStamin
03/16/03, 08:46 AM
OK, you're right. But the way then do it (with or without UN) will be made tomorrow, it will more than likely be without. It's about time.
evil zach
03/16/03, 08:49 AM
I read the other day that if they go to war without UN aprouval, that the soldoers could face criminal charges. i'll see if I can find the link.
WithStamin
03/16/03, 08:52 AM
Criminal charges from who? The UN? First of all, the US is exempt from the UN criminal court. Second, the US is a soverign nation (as well as Britian, Spain, Portugal, etc) as has the right to defend itself. No deadlocked international body should be able to dictate our safety.
evil zach
03/16/03, 08:58 AM
read about ithere (http://www.fighttheoctopus.com/article.php?story=20030312121103793 )
it dosn't apply to US soldiers though, mainly just british.
WithStamin
03/16/03, 09:00 AM
OK, but fightingtheoctopus.com isn't the most reliable site out there.
Justin_stacy
03/16/03, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by evil zach
read about ithere (http://www.fighttheoctopus.com/article.php?story=20030312121103793 )
it dosn't apply to US soldiers though, mainly just british.

Nice bias site.
No country on earth would allow there soliders to be prosecuted, it just shows the stupidity of the United Nations, that they want to prosecute soliders ending a dictatorship, but not the dictator himself.
yeat182
03/16/03, 09:24 AM
i only read the article quickly but didn't it say that it was british lawyers that were pressing for legal action?
evil zach
03/16/03, 09:25 AM
true it's bias, but the fact were there
your moms hot
03/16/03, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by WithStamin
The UN? First of all, the US is exempt from the UN criminal court
thats fuckin stupid...no nation should be exempt from a criminal court. someone care to explain to me why they decided to do this??
yeat182
03/16/03, 01:02 PM
i'm pretty sure because we were the most powerful country after wwII and when the UN was founded they probably had to make some conscessions to get the US to back it. the UN needed the US but the US did not need the UN. again, i don't really know, if someone finds the real reason, post it.
WithStamin
03/16/03, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by your moms hot
thats fuckin stupid...no nation should be exempt from a criminal court. someone care to explain to me why they decided to do this?? Because the United States in a soverign nation with its own laws that doesn't have to answer to any "higher" power.
therealhebm
03/16/03, 01:40 PM
List of things to do tomorrow:

1. get piss ass wasted
2. go to school piss ass wasted
3. watch war on tv piss ass wasted

sounds like a fun day
evil zach
03/16/03, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by WithStamin
Because the United States in a soverign nation with its own laws that doesn't have to answer to any "higher" power.
Your hypocracy is amazing. If the US dosn't have to answer to any higher power the why should Iraq?
WithStamin
03/16/03, 05:01 PM
Because Iraq has a maniacal dictator who will use his weapons to destroy whatever he can. Iraq is dangerous. It will not hurt anyone to have American "war criminals" to be tried in America.
NOOOOOAHHHH
03/16/03, 05:01 PM
so i was watching this thing on tv and this weapons inspection has been going on for like 11 years or something...if they havent done anything to us yet why dont we just leave them alone they probably wont do anything untill we do...(notice i said untill rather than unless b/c i know we will)
yeat182
03/16/03, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by NOOOOOAHHHH
so i was watching this thing on tv and this weapons inspection has been going on for like 11 years or something...if they havent done anything to us yet why dont we just leave them alone they probably wont do anything untill we do...(notice i said untill rather than unless b/c i know we will)


i think that the lesson learned from 9/11 is that we can't afford to wait until after something happens to take action.
evil zach
03/16/03, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by WithStamin
Because Iraq has a maniacal dictator who will use his weapons to destroy whatever he can. Iraq is dangerous. It will not hurt anyone to have American "war criminals" to be tried in America.
If they are captured by Iraqi forces, they could be tried under Iraqi law.

Are there any other countries that don't have to aswer to a "higher powere" is this one of those deals that only appliy to the US?
WithStamin
03/16/03, 05:40 PM
The internation community (granted, not all of it) decided that Saddam was a threat and decided to move in.

Appeatantly, the UN decided that having American answer to an international court wasn't too high a priority, or they would have pushed more for it.
Justin_stacy
03/16/03, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by evil zach
Your hypocracy is amazing. If the US dosn't have to answer to any higher power the why should Iraq?

Man thats a great piont.

Also to the person aways back who was asking about why we weren't in the ICC, heres a link that may or maynot help answer that, its to long for me to fully read into it right now but it might help you.
http://www.iccnow.org/