Working Out / Supplements

[YouMadeTheScene]

I'm wondering how many of you guys work out and if you do what supplements if any do you use?

I work out 6 days a week and kickbox and study Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 3 days a week so I work out on a steady basis. I currently take Tribulus 625, Twin Lab Glutamine Caps, and Apex Lean 3 for extra energy and protien synthesis and for weight loss because I'm looking for better definition.

So what do you guys do/take?

[chroma23]

I lift about 5 days a week, but am only on protein.

[YouMadeTheScene]

I don't take any protien supplements as I feel that all it does for me is put on weight and I take in enough through my diet during the day.

[Mercy Medical]

I work out at the wellness center at school 4 times a week and play indoor soccer once a week.

Typically I run on the treadmill for 10 minutes and then ride the recumbant bike for 10 minutes and then lift. I alternate doing lifting for my arms and legs, that is I'll do arms one day and legs the next day. I just started working out again recently so this is how my work out plan is starting, but who knows how it'll end up.

I used to take this whey protein stuff that you put in a drink, but I ran out and I'm poor so I can't afford it right now. I'll probably buy some more when I get more money, but it was more for the fact that I'm tired all the time then to help with working out.

[chroma23]

I'm in high school still, but my dad won't let me go on anything else. My friend went on creatine, and cramped up and couldn't move for a day.

[Mercy Medical]

I'm in high school still, but my dad won't let me go on anything else. My friend went on creatine, and cramped up and couldn't move for a day.
I wouldn't suggest creatine, there's a lot of negative aspects to that supplement.

[chroma23]

I wouldn't suggest creatine, there's a lot of negative aspects to that supplement.
One of the things I would not do. I could get around my dad, but I'm broke anyway.

[YouMadeTheScene]

Creatine is shit. Take Glutamine. It's more expensive but it works better. It works with your amino acids. That's what I take and it works great.

[El_Jeffe]

i work out quite a bit in the gym
for tennis and do a lot of cardio
work on & off the court
i don't bother with supplements
i just stick to a good healthy diet

[asianxcore]

I take Protein, Energy Pills/Metabolism Boosters and Creadrive (creatine), it's fun.

[imirish06]

I work out. I'm pretty into it... I'm going to be trying to get certified to be a personal Trainer soon.

Right now I just take a Multi Vitamin, L-Arginine, Glutamine, and I have protein that I use when I can't get a meal in.

In about a month I'll be cutting dairy products out of my diet to help cut so I'll be taking a calcium supplement

IMHO though, cut out the Tribulus. Test boosters are pretty much worthless and a waste of money. I'd also suggest buying glutamine in powder form because it's cheaper in the long run and you get more servings out of it.

To those bashing creatine, you couldn't be MORE wrong.

1. Your friend cramped up because he didn't take enough water.
2. Creatine has been studied, studied, studied and studied and shown to be both effective and safe.
3. Creatine and Glutamine are two ENTIRELY different things.

The main thing Creatine does is hydrate your muscles(hense the reason why you need to drink a lot of water). Hydrated muscles are able to do more work than they normally can do resulting in better work outs and better results. When you stop taking Creatine you will lose a bit of size that you had while on it but that's only water weight youre losing. Any gains youve made while on creatine will stay with you.

Creatine bashers are usually 1. Soccer moms who think theyre steroids 2. People that don't heavily research it.

Can great gains be made without Creatine? Sure you can. But if you want more out of your workouts, Creatine is perfectly fine.

FYI, Creatine is made by your body. So if it IS bad for you, we'd all be dead right now.

Glutamine is a non essential amino acid that aids in muscle repair and retaining muscle. When's best to use it? After a workout to assit in muscle recovery. Before bed or before a long cardio session to help prevent muscle catabolism(eating of muscle).


To the poster, if you're aiming to lose weight and get definition. I'd cut out those energy/fat burning pills. They do a damper on your metabolism once you come off and it'll be twice as hard for you to burn fat as it was before.

The best/healthy/effective way to increase metabolism is to eat 6 small meals a day rather than 3 big ones. Each meal should contain a portion of protein rich food(IE: chicken breast, turkey breast, eggs, etc..) a portion of complex carbs(whole wheat products, fruit, veggies, etc..).

If you need a good energy boost before work out. Try taking two scoops of natural peanut butter right before the workout or buy some L-Arginine. L-Arginine is an amino acid. It's the main building block in Nitrogen Oxide Synthesis. It helps with energy because it that blood circulation and allows more nutritients to reach muscles and what not. I take about 6grams before I lift or do cardio.

There is a product called NO-Xplode thats basically creatine mixed with L-Arginine. It DOES work but using Free Form Arginine is just as effective and it's cheaper.

[KENNY182]

I am like 6 foot 1 inch and weight like 140 - 145 or so, it changes. What should I take to get up to what I should weigh, which I think is 160 - 170. I work out when I have time. I have been lifiting steadily for like 5 years but I am stuck or have been stuck at the same weight for like 3 years. What should I do to gain in mass?

Oh yeah, I'm vegetarian too, but that hasn't made a difference in my weight compared to when I ate meat.

[imirish06]

Also, the best cardio for burning body fat/retaining lean muscle is HIIT Training.

[Ralph Wiggum]

I lift 3 days a week and do conditioning everyday. i also practice routes and coverage everyday since i play football and im a starter on varsity as a sophmore, which is huge because football is big here. As for supplements i take calcium and protein, but nothing artifical like that energy stuff, i just have a healthy diet. i had a friend who took creatine and he gained a lot of weight really fast but has leveled out now and i don't think he's getting good results any more.

[imirish06]

I am like 6 foot 1 inch and weight like 140 - 145 or so, it changes. What should I take to get up to what I should weigh, which I think is 160 - 170. I work out when I have time. I have been lifiting steadily for like 5 years but I am stuck or have been stuck at the same weight for like 3 years. What should I do to gain in mass?

Oh yeah, I'm vegetarian too, but that hasn't made a difference in my weight compared to when I ate meat.


Your body type seems to be a ectomorph. Which basically means that it's a BITCH for you to gain any type of weight.


What you need to do is EAT, EAT, EAT. I mean honestly, you have to force yourself to eat something even when you're not hungry. Being an ectomorph is great if you just want to be really skinny but it's an absolute bitch if you want to gain muscle.

Basically what you need to do is start eating 6 meals a day of protein rich foods, complex carbs, etc.. Just like someone who wants to lose weight. The only difference is you need to eat a lot more.

Like one meal for you should be 2 chicken breasts(or a veggie protein), a big bowl of oat meal, and a scoop or two of natural peanut butter.

If you're not into cooking enough to have food for 6 meals a dya.... try eating 3 regular meals, and purchase a weight gainer supplement. Take it 3 times a day

So your day would look like this

breakfast
3 hours after breakfast (weight gainer
3 hours after that...lunch
3 hours after that weight gainer
3 hours after that dinner
then before bed.. another weight gainer.


A healthy diet is 80% part of your results no matter WHAT the goal... a workout is 20%

As far as your weight lifting is concerned

I'd give a go at this program.
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/hitworkout.htm

To gain mass you should be worried about doing heavy weight with short reps rather than a weight you could do for 12, etc..

[Ralph Wiggum]

FYI, Creatine is made by your body. So if it IS bad for you, we'd all be dead right now.

Creatine is made naturally by your body but that doens't mean taking more can't be harmful. your body needs sugar for your bloodstream, but too much sugar is obviously bad for you. I'm not saying that creatine is or is not healthy since i have no personal experience and have not studied it, but i do know that just because your body makes it naturally doesn't mean too much couldn't have negative effects on your body.

[KENNY182]

Your body type seems to be a ectomorph. Which basically means that it's a BITCH for you to gain any type of weight.


What you need to do is EAT, EAT, EAT. I mean honestly, you have to force yourself to eat something even when you're not hungry. Being an ectomorph is great if you just want to be really skinny but it's an absolute bitch if you want to gain muscle.

Basically what you need to do is start eating 6 meals a day of protein rich foods, complex carbs, etc.. Just like someone who wants to lose weight. The only difference is you need to eat a lot more.

Like one meal for you should be 2 chicken breasts(or a veggie protein), a big bowl of oat meal, and a scoop or two of natural peanut butter.

If you're not into cooking enough to have food for 6 meals a dya.... try eating 3 regular meals, and purchase a weight gainer supplement. Take it 3 times a day

So your day would look like this

breakfast
3 hours after breakfast (weight gainer
3 hours after that...lunch
3 hours after that weight gainer
3 hours after that dinner
then before bed.. another weight gainer.


A healthy diet is 80% part of your results no matter WHAT the goal... a workout is 20%

As far as your weight lifting is concerned

I'd give a go at this program.
http://bodybuilding.com/fun/hitworkout.htm

To gain mass you should be worried about doing heavy weight with short reps rather than a weight you could do for 12, etc..



Thank you for such great advice. and you're right about it being hard for me to gain weight.

I can eat just as much as one of my friends and they will end up gaining weight while I will stay the same.

People always tell me I need to eat, and i tell them I do, I just don't gain weight.


anyways, what is good to eat for breakfast lunch and dinner and take into consideration I am a veggie, I eat the morningstar farms and boca crap which has some protein in it, i think as much or more as real meat.


and what is a good weight gainer? and would a protein shake help?


I am tall and long, and when I say I want to get bigger, I don't mean like buff buff, I do want some shape and tone, which I already have naturally from being skinny and working out when i can. I just want to get to a weight where people aren't telling me i need to eat and that I am skinny, I have been hearing that my whole life.


thanks again

[imirish06]

Creatine is made naturally by your body but that doens't mean taking more can't be harmful. your body needs sugar for your bloodstream, but too much sugar is obviously bad for you. I'm not saying that creatine is or is not healthy since i have no personal experience and have not studied it, but i do know that just because your body makes it naturally doesn't mean too much couldn't have negative effects on your body.


Right, but trust me you'd have to take a lot of creatine for it to have a harmful effect.


I think the suggested dose for creatine is about 5-8g of it a day. Which is absolutely perfectly fine.


People who have been harmed on creatine are people who abuse it, just like ANY type of supplement. Including Steroids.


Please don't get me wrong, I don't suggest steroids or use them... but the amount of injuries that result of them result because of people not doing on enough research, and abusing them.

I know many people who have used/using steroids that do it in a perfectly contolled manner. Bottom line is, you have to listen to your body.

Have you watched True Life: I'm on Steroids on MTV?

If not, they studied 3 people who were using steroids. One was a body builder who did everything by the book, he ate a healthy diet, and he took his steroids under supervision of a professional and monitored his body for even the slightest symptoms. If he experienced them, he was instructed to stop. I think his goal was to make a photo shoot. He cycled the steroids up until his photo shoot and as soon as it was over, he stopped using them.

HE did it the right way.

Another one on the show was a gay guy(litteraly) that was an absolute fucking idiot about it. 1. He didn't eat right at all, you could tell because he was fat. He smoked, drank, etc.. and he had side effects all over the place and STILL continued to use them. This is the type of person that ends of getting harmed from steroids or eventually passing way because of them.

This is the type of person who makes the headlines.


I'm not trying to compare Creatine to steroids because they're two 100% totally different things and Creatine is 100% more safe than steroids. I'm just using steroids as an example of the concept that usually when bad things happen from a product, it's because of idiots like the gay guy.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Right, but trust me you'd have to take a lot of creatine for it to have a harmful effect.


I think the suggested dose for creatine is about 5-8g of it a day. Which is absolutely perfectly fine.


People who have been harmed on creatine are people who abuse it, just like ANY type of supplement. Including Steroids.


Please don't get me wrong, I don't suggest steroids or use them... but the amount of injuries that result of them result because of people not doing on enough research, and abusing them.

I know many people who have used/using steroids that do it in a perfectly contolled manner. Bottom line is, you have to listen to your body.

Have you watched True Life: I'm on Steroids on MTV?

If not, they studied 3 people who were using steroids. One was a body builder who did everything by the book, he ate a healthy diet, and he took his steroids under supervision of a professional and monitored his body for even the slightest symptoms. If he experienced them, he was instructed to stop. I think his goal was to make a photo shoot. He cycled the steroids up until his photo shoot and as soon as it was over, he stopped using them.

HE did it the right way.

Another one on the show was a gay guy(litteraly) that was an absolute fucking idiot about it. 1. He didn't eat right at all, you could tell because he was fat. He smoked, drank, etc.. and he had side effects all over the place and STILL continued to use them. This is the type of person that ends of getting harmed from steroids or eventually passing way because of them.

This is the type of person who makes the headlines.


I'm not trying to compare Creatine to steroids because they're two 100% totally different things and Creatine is 100% more safe than steroids. I'm just using steroids as an example of the concept that usually when bad things happen from a product, it's because of idiots like the gay guy.

well i was justing commenting on your line if creatine was bad for you we'd all be dead. I don't know about that but you seem to know more about it than i do.

[imirish06]

Thank you for such great advice. and you're right about it being hard for me to gain weight.

I can eat just as much as one of my friends and they will end up gaining weight while I will stay the same.

People always tell me I need to eat, and i tell them I do, I just don't gain weight.


anyways, what is good to eat for breakfast lunch and dinner and take into consideration I am a veggie, I eat the morningstar farms and boca crap which has some protein in it, i think as much or more as real meat.


and what is a good weight gainer? and would a protein shake help?


I am tall and long, and when I say I want to get bigger, I don't mean like buff buff, I do want some shape and tone, which I already have naturally from being skinny and working out when i can. I just want to get to a weight where people aren't telling me i need to eat and that I am skinny, I have been hearing that my whole life.


thanks again


A big misconception of weight lifting is that if you start lifting, you will get absolutely jacked. Like girls say that all the time (ahh i dont wanna lift weights cause I dont wanna get huge). Trust me when I say this, you need to work really really hard to get really big. And being that your an ectomorph, you need to work a lot harder than most people. So you don't have to worry about getting really really buff.

As far as veggie proteins are concerned, here are some things you could be eating:
Tempeh, Seitan, Tofu, Texturized vegetable protein, Soy foods, Veggie burgers, etc..

Protein shakes are fine but since you're a veggie you might want to look into Soy Protein.

The general rule of them is to consume 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight a day. Like, I'm 170lbs so I try to get in at least 170 grams of protein a day through food and shakes(if I need them).

Also, I don't want to say to totally cut out cardio(if you're doing it) because cardio can make you overall really healthy... but I'd try to cut it down to like...maybe once a week. 15-20 minutes of it.

When body builders are in their bulking stage, that's what they usually do... a lot of them cut out cardio all together. To gain muscle you need an excess amount of calories. And since your body is naturally burning calories at the rate it's currently doing... you don't need cardio to take away any of those calories that your muscles need to be getting



Question, do you eat dairy products?

[KENNY182]

A big misconception of weight lifting is that if you start lifting, you will get absolutely jacked. Like girls say that all the time (ahh i dont wanna lift weights cause I dont wanna get huge). Trust me when I say this, you need to work really really hard to get really big. And being that your an ectomorph, you need to work a lot harder than most people. So you don't have to worry about getting really really buff.

As far as veggie proteins are concerned, here are some things you could be eating:
Tempeh, Seitan, Tofu, Texturized vegetable protein, Soy foods, Veggie burgers, etc..

Protein shakes are fine but since you're a veggie you might want to look into Soy Protein.

The general rule of them is to consume 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight a day. Like, I'm 170lbs so I try to get in at least 170 grams of protein a day through food and shakes(if I need them).

Also, I don't want to say to totally cut out cardio(if you're doing it) because cardio can make you overall really healthy... but I'd try to cut it down to like...maybe once a week. 15-20 minutes of it.

When body builders are in their bulking stage, that's what they usually do... a lot of them cut out cardio all together. To gain muscle you need an excess amount of calories. And since your body is naturally burning calories at the rate it's currently doing... you don't need cardio to take away any of those calories that your muscles need to be getting



Question, do you eat dairy products?




You're 170 ? how tall are you, I wanna get to that weight so I'm not told I need to gain weight anymore, and I also don't want to be a victim of being picked up and slammed down with ease by someone bigger, hahaha.


And I pretty much don't do any cardio, I don't run, although I would like to. My legs are soooo small, chicken legs! even my thighs, it affect my upper body strength. I can physically lift heavy stuff with my upper body, but my legs don't support that weight so my upper has to compensate.


and i am not Vegan, just vegetarian, meaning No Meat. I drink milk and eat cheese and all that delicious stuff. YUM !

[imirish06]

You're 170 ? how tall are you, I wanna get to that weight so I'm not told I need to gain weight anymore, and I also don't want to be a victim of being picked up and slammed down with ease by someone bigger, hahaha.


And I pretty much don't do any cardio, I don't run, although I would like to. My legs are soooo small, chicken legs! even my thighs, it affect my upper body strength. I can physically lift heavy stuff with my upper body, but my legs don't support that weight so my upper has to compensate.


and i am not Vegan, just vegetarian, meaning No Meat. I drink milk and eat cheese and all that delicious stuff. YUM !


Alright cool, you don't have to worry about eating Soy protein then. It's perfectly fine for you to take a weight gainer or regular whey protein because theyre pretty much made up of dairy, egg, etc..

Skim Milk is an awesome/quick way to get some protein in you. It's also a caesin protein(slow digesting) so before you goto bed it'd be a good idea to slam down 2 glasses of skim milk or eat a cup of cottage cheese (cottage cheese is probably one of the best things you could eat before bed). The logic behind this is you're going to be without food for about 7-8 hours or however long you sleep. That's a nightmare in terms of gaining muscle so you'e best off taking a protein that's going to be slow digesting.. to spread it out more through out the night.

I'm 5'11. I weighted 165 at the end of August and basically am just doing what I'm telling you to do right now. I want to gain about 5-8 more pounds of muscle before I start cutting again for the summer.

[Caleb Cattivera]

i like pizza and beer.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Alright cool, you don't have to worry about eating Soy protein then. It's perfectly fine for you to take a weight gainer or regular whey protein because theyre pretty much made up of dairy, egg, etc..

Skim Milk is an awesome/quick way to get some protein in you. It's also a caesin protein(slow digesting) so before you goto bed it'd be a good idea to slam down 2 glasses of skim milk or eat a cup of cottage cheese (cottage cheese is probably one of the best things you could eat before bed). The logic behind this is you're going to be without food for about 7-8 hours or however long you sleep. That's a nightmare in terms of gaining muscle so you'e best off taking a protein that's going to be slow digesting.. to spread it out more through out the night.

I'm 5'11. I weighted 165 at the end of August and basically am just doing what I'm telling you to do right now. I want to gain about 5-8 more pounds of muscle before I start cutting again for the summer.
i'm 6', 230. But I was a fat kid in elementary school and I'm still stuck around 15-17% body fat, so you're probably alot more defined than I am.

Also, when I separated my shoulder back in October, it fucking KILLED me in the weight room, because the shoulder got so weak, I had to rest it completely for 2 weeks, then he said no lifting for another 4. So when I got back to lifting around December, all the weights I used for upper body exercises had taken a nose dive. It was so fucking disappointing.

[imirish06]

i'm 6', 230. But I was a fat kid in elementary school and I'm still stuck around 15-17% body fat, so you're probably alot more defined than I am.

Also, when I separated my shoulder back in October, it fucking KILLED me in the weight room, because the shoulder got so weak, I had to rest it completely for 2 weeks, then he said no lifting for another 4. So when I got back to lifting around December, all the weights I used for upper body exercises had taken a nose dive. It was so fucking disappointing.


Yeah injuries blow huuuge amounts of ass. That's another good thing about Glutamine. You generally start losing your strength a little bit after a week of not lifting. Glutamine can help slow that down

[YouMadeTheScene]

ImIrish: Thanks for all the advice. I've been heavily working out for about 7 years. I played college football and lacrosse so I know my shit decently well.

I've found Tribulus to be a big help actually and seen pretty quick improvment.

I personally never got much out of creatine so I never recommend it.

I also only am using the Apex for a short time to burn some small fat around my lower abs. I eat 6 small meals a day, and run about 4 miles a day. Not to mention normal working out

Im to lazy to go over everything you said but you know your stuff so good luck with everything.

[imirish06]

ImIrish: Thanks for all the advice. I've been heavily working out for about 7 years. I played college football and lacrosse so I know my shit decently well.

I've found Tribulus to be a big help actually and seen pretty quick improvment.

I personally never got much out of creatine so I never recommend it.

I also only am using the Apex for a short time to burn some small fat around my lower abs. I eat 6 small meals a day, and run about 4 miles a day. Not to mention normal working out

Im to lazy to go over everything you said but you know your stuff so good luck with everything.

You will see some improvement with Tribulus but for what you pay for it, it's not worth it. Store bought Test boosters are generally a rip off.


However everyones different, so if you're getting your moneys worth out of it. Keep using it.

Lower abs are a bitch dude. They have to be the hardest spot to clean fat away from

[YouMadeTheScene]

You will see some improvement with Tribulus but for what you pay for it, it's not worth it. Store bought Test boosters are generally a rip off.


However everyones different, so if you're getting your moneys worth out of it. Keep using it.

Lower abs are a bitch dude. They have to be the hardest spot to clean fat away from

Exactly, that's the only reason I'm taking the Apex. It's super strong too, you can feel it within like 15 minutes. I've seen improvement in about a week and half as of taking it. Kickboxing 6 days a week really helps out as you are using your abs constantly.

[imirish06]

Another thing that might help.

Check out this article in relation to cardio/fat burning
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/staley11.htm

It'll safe you a few miles of running and might help you more.

[YouMadeTheScene]

Another thing that might help.

Check out this article in relation to cardio/fat burning
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/staley11.htm

It'll safe you a few miles of running and might help you more.

I don't do the cardio for fat loss really I do it for Kickboxing and to last in the ring for longer.

[imirish06]

Even still, there has been studies showing that HIIT builds greater endurance than normal cardio.

I dunno, the gym I goto is huuuge on Martial Arts/UFC style fighting. There is an octagon in there and all. This is where I first heard of the idea from

[YouMadeTheScene]

Even still, there has been studies showing that HIIT builds greater endurance than normal cardio.

I dunno, the gym I goto is huuuge on Martial Arts/UFC style fighting. There is an octagon in there and all. This is where I first heard of the idea from

Jesus what gym do you go to? I need to get there. I'm going to go pro in a couple of years, or at least attempt to. My trainer thinks I can and win.

[imirish06]

lol it's called "Xtreme Fitness"... go figure hahah

They have an octagon and a regular boxing ring. I think they're going to start running tourneys there too. The owners are real big on muay thai. I think I'm going to start taking classes after I'm done with bulking

[believethehyph]

I Pump Iron 3 Times A Week

[Andy]

I go to the gym every day, but I don't take any supplements. I took creatine in the army, but Ive stopped.

[BeerNSluts]

Ephedra needs to be LEGAL god damn it.

[Johnny_G]

Ephedra needs to be LEGAL god damn it.

You can still get it. :)

[BeerNSluts]

Where?

[Johnny_G]

Where?

http://www.simplynutrition.com/get_item_sup-010.htm

It's legal if taken in 10mg doses. However much you take is up to you...

[imirish06]

Ephedra needs to be LEGAL god damn it.


gas stations

[Cal Smith]

Yeah, I'm on NO-Xplode and it's got creatine. I've been on it for about a month an have gain about 5lbs (water weight I'm guessing), but have also seen a significant increase in my lifting. I've gone from my last set on dumbell press being 85lbs, to my last set being 95lbs. That's a significant jump for a month.

[allelish]

I Pump Iron 3 Times A Week
matchstick man!

[KENNY182]

Alright cool, you don't have to worry about eating Soy protein then. It's perfectly fine for you to take a weight gainer or regular whey protein because theyre pretty much made up of dairy, egg, etc..

Skim Milk is an awesome/quick way to get some protein in you. It's also a caesin protein(slow digesting) so before you goto bed it'd be a good idea to slam down 2 glasses of skim milk or eat a cup of cottage cheese (cottage cheese is probably one of the best things you could eat before bed). The logic behind this is you're going to be without food for about 7-8 hours or however long you sleep. That's a nightmare in terms of gaining muscle so you'e best off taking a protein that's going to be slow digesting.. to spread it out more through out the night.

I'm 5'11. I weighted 165 at the end of August and basically am just doing what I'm telling you to do right now. I want to gain about 5-8 more pounds of muscle before I start cutting again for the summer.



thanks again for your knowledge on all of this. any brands you can reccomend so I know what to get when i head to GNC?



and what is good for working out your legs without running and with maybe some dumbells or a bench bar or whatever. since I don't have access to machines

[imirish06]

Yeah, I'm on NO-Xplode and it's got creatine. I've been on it for about a month an have gain about 5lbs (water weight I'm guessing), but have also seen a significant increase in my lifting. I've gone from my last set on dumbell press being 85lbs, to my last set being 95lbs. That's a significant jump for a month.


The most active/significant ingredient in NO-Xplode is L-Arginine

You'd save sooooo much money just buying that in free form.

[imirish06]

thanks again for your knowledge on all of this. any brands you can reccomend so I know what to get when i head to GNC?



and what is good for working out your legs without running and with maybe some dumbells or a bench bar or whatever. since I don't have access to machines


Machines suck anyways, IMO.

There are quite a few things you could work you legs with dumbells....

Squats, calve raises, lunges, etc..

As far as supplements go, and protein.

No matter what some goon trys to tell you... Whey Protein is Whey Protein, Creatine is Creatine, etc.. Don't get caught up in any type of hype of one product saying its better than the other.

My advice, get the cheapest stuff you could find. And the BIGGEST thing I could tell you

Stayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy as far away from GNC as you possibly can.


1. The workers don't know shit, and even if they did.... they get paid more when they sell certain products. So either way you're going to get a bullshit story from a work
2. Absolutely overpriced. They really, realllly are.

You'll save so much ordering stuff from places like

www.dpsnutrition.com
www.bulknutrition.com
www.musclemagnepa.com

As far as Protein goes, I'd order it from www.trueprotein.com

They sell it at like $4.19 a lb and you could pick how it's sweetened, what vitamins go in, sooo many flavors, etc..

I suggest buying the unflavored protein because it makes it soo much more easier to mix with drinks and food.

The most important thing you need to do is eat and eat right. Food is better for building muscle than any possible supplement you could buy(excluding steroids) and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


Besides food, the only other supplements I'd suggest are Protein, Creatine, BCAA's, and Amino Acids

[KENNY182]

Machines suck anyways, IMO.

There are quite a few things you could work you legs with dumbells....

Squats, calve raises, lunges, etc..

As far as supplements go, and protein.

No matter what some goon trys to tell you... Whey Protein is Whey Protein, Creatine is Creatine, etc.. Don't get caught up in any type of hype of one product saying its better than the other.

My advice, get the cheapest stuff you could find. And the BIGGEST thing I could tell you

Stayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy as far away from GNC as you possibly can.


1. The workers don't know shit, and even if they did.... they get paid more when they sell certain products. So either way you're going to get a bullshit story from a work
2. Absolutely overpriced. They really, realllly are.

You'll save so much ordering stuff from places like

www.dpsnutrition.com (http://www.dpsnutrition.com)
www.bulknutrition.com (http://www.bulknutrition.com)
www.musclemagnepa.com (http://www.musclemagnepa.com)

As far as Protein goes, I'd order it from www.trueprotein.com (http://www.trueprotein.com)

They sell it at like $4.19 a lb and you could pick how it's sweetened, what vitamins go in, sooo many flavors, etc..

I suggest buying the unflavored protein because it makes it soo much more easier to mix with drinks and food.

The most important thing you need to do is eat and eat right. Food is better for building muscle than any possible supplement you could buy(excluding steroids) and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


Besides food, the only other supplements I'd suggest are Protein, Creatine, BCAA's, and Amino Acids




what is considered eating right ? what and what not to eat ?

[imirish06]

you should be eating 6 times a day.... and every meal should have a protein in it and a complex carb... 2 out of the 6 should have some veggies...

if you don't have time, you could just eat 3 regular meals and 3 shakes along with some sort of carb (blend up some oatmeal in the shake and youre good)

since you already have trouble gaining weight...you dont have to have THAT strict of a diet in terms of what not to eat... because I mean you need a ton of calories

But generally you should stay away from foods with trans fat, high saturated fat, high in sugar(more than 10 grams), high sodium foods, etc..

If you were looking to cut body fat and get really ripped you'd stay away from fruit, dairy, and any type of bread product. You dont really need to worry about that though.

[Shatter590]

I diet and exercise. Rather than trying a strange/fad diet, I rely on counting calories, making sure that I co msume no more than 1200 per day. In addition, I use multivitamins to enhance what I get from my meals.

As for exercise:

3 hours per week of Jeet Kune Do
2 Hours per Week of Muay Thai boxing
1 hour per week of Filipino Kali
1 hour a week of Brazilian Jiu jitsu

i've lost 30 pounds in the last 4 months

[imirish06]

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best fucking thing about myspace. the people on there are soooooooo knowledgeable about this stuff.