UConn #1 In Country [Archive]

TJ Wells

01/23/06, 04:27 PM

Can't say I agree with this. (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=Ap_W82zHzK9XjmmhotAzDWA5n YcB?slug=ap-t25-collegebkbpoll&prov=ap&type=lgns)

justinevans

01/23/06, 04:32 PM

Can't say I saw this coming. (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=Ap_W82zHzK9XjmmhotAzDWA5n YcB?slug=ap-t25-collegebkbpoll&prov=ap&type=lgns)

how could you have not? everyone else lost.

leafsacc

01/23/06, 04:32 PM

#1 in April is the only time it really matters, but I'll take it.

hockey0001

01/23/06, 04:33 PM

Can't say I saw this coming. (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=Ap_W82zHzK9XjmmhotAzDWA5n YcB?slug=ap-t25-collegebkbpoll&prov=ap&type=lgns)

I thought it was pretty obvious

FondestMemory

01/23/06, 04:34 PM

i still think duke should be number one.

yeah, they lost. but i don't think there's a better team right now.

asianxcore

01/23/06, 04:43 PM

Duke is no good. UCONN>Duke.

Caleb Cattivera

01/23/06, 04:44 PM

this is dumb. i hate duke. but duke is the best team in the nation.

ohgodohnoiam

01/23/06, 04:44 PM

This is cool, but there's way too many big league matches left for it to mean much right now.

asianxcore

01/23/06, 04:46 PM

this is dumb. i hate duke. but duke is the best team in the nation.
hahaha, without JJ Duke sucks, and any night someone from UCONN can step up and dominate.

Caleb Cattivera

01/23/06, 04:48 PM

yeah which makes jj the best player in the nation. and they do have him. he's goign to be the reason they probably win the tourney come march.

asianxcore

01/23/06, 04:49 PM

yeah which makes jj the best player in the nation. and they do have him. he's goign to be the reason they probably win the tourney come march.
No, look at illinois, without dee they suck balls.

splitsecond

01/23/06, 04:52 PM

I hate the bias that maybe 10 schools get in the voting process.

Caleb Cattivera

01/23/06, 05:08 PM

No, look at illinois, without dee they suck balls.

no shit.

and when he doesnt hit, they dont win. i know this.

i still think we're tops in the big ten, especially after north dakota state beat wisconsin, altho wisconsin could give us a run.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:11 PM

hahaha, without JJ Duke sucks, and any night someone from UCONN can step up and dominate.
That's why Williams is winning the Elmore Index for POTY, and is an all-american? Right? Psh. Without Armstrong UConn sucks.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:12 PM

no shit.

and when he doesnt hit, they dont win. i know this.

i still think we're tops in the big ten, especially after north dakota state beat wisconsin, altho wisconsin could give us a run.
Gonzaga, Duke, Illinois, West Virginia.

That's the Final Four I want.

Ralph Wiggum

01/23/06, 05:13 PM

The rankings just go by wins and losses so they really mean nothing, the best team regardless of what the rankings are is duke, even though i hate duke. uconn lost to marquette (steve novak, baby) and it wasn't even close. at least duke's loss wasn't as bad. and duke has beat a lot of good teams. uconn not as much. my prediction is they won't be number 1 for long.

ohgodohnoiam

01/23/06, 05:20 PM

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:23 PM

I can understand how based just on the teams they've beat so far Duke looks like the better team, but anyone who thinks that Uconn can't match up with Duke and at least make a good close game out of it is wrong.
Rankings usually aren't based on hypotheticals. I think the Zags matched up (tired) against Uconn and made a good game out of it (lost by what, 2?) doesn't make them a top 5 team in the standings. The defense of Duke will effect Williams like it did Feldman (that his name? UNC's point guard) last year .... if last year's Duke team can beat last years UNC team, this year's Duke team can beat this year's Uconn team.

Vincewithouthee

01/23/06, 05:26 PM

Duke will be back at #1 soon. Uconn has some tough games ahead of them now.

hockey0001

01/23/06, 05:27 PM

Rankings usually aren't based on hypotheticals. I think the Zags matched up (tired) against Uconn and made a good game out of it (lost by what, 2?) doesn't make them a top 5 team in the standings.

UConn didnt have Williams and is a much better team now than they were then.

The defense of Duke will effect Williams like it did Feldman (that his name? UNC's point guard) last year .... if last year's Duke team can beat last years UNC team, this year's Duke team can beat this year's Uconn team.

Uconn's front court will shut down Williams and they can alternate who covers Reddick. Uconn can beat Duke.

Vincewithouthee

01/23/06, 05:31 PM

Scott Weber

01/23/06, 05:33 PM

Gonzaga, Duke, Illinois, West Virginia.

That's the Final Four I want.
I don't see Gonzaga making it past the sweet 16 this year unless they get a ridiculously easy draw. One thing that sucks about being a mid major is that they play so many cupcakes in the 2 months before the tourney, then they get shocked by an upstart team (see: Last year)

hockey0001

01/23/06, 05:34 PM

Uconn will lose to Indiana, I can tell you that. I also believe they'll lose to WVU in a few weeks as well. Both are very tough games.

I can see them beating my Pitt Panthers pretty easily. I hate saying that though.

Uconn has a lot of though games left, so i dont expect them to stay number 1 for long. They still have to play Pitt, Indiana, Nova x2, and WVU. I see them losing at least one but probably 2 of those games.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:34 PM

UConn didnt have Williams and is a much better team now than they were then.

Uconn's front court will shut down Williams and they can alternate who covers Reddick. Uconn can beat Duke.
No one on Uconn can cover Redick. No ONE person in college baskeball can cover Redick right now. Even alternating them (like they tried at Texas) just wears out 4 players instead of one.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:35 PM

I don't see Gonzaga making it past the sweet 16 this year unless they get a ridiculously easy draw. One thing that sucks about being a mid major is that they play so many cupcakes in the 2 months before the tourney, then they get shocked by an upstart team (see: Last year)
Yep. Doesn't mean I can't cheer for it to happen. I'll be cheering for every team UConn plays to beat them too .. :)

Ralph Wiggum

01/23/06, 05:37 PM

Uconn's front court will shut down Williams and they can alternate who covers Reddick. Uconn can beat Duke.

Any team, well maybe not any team this being college, but any decent team has a chance on gameday. I'm sure no one picked georgetown to beat duke, or marquette to beat uconn. but your right uconn could beat duke. it'd be a good game.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:38 PM

Any team, well maybe not any team this being college, but any decent team has a chance on gameday. I'm sure no one picked georgetown to beat duke, or marquette to beat uconn. but your right uconn could beat duke. it'd be a good game.
North Dakota State baby.

Exactly. So, it depends on a lot of factors - and heart. UNC showed that the best and most deserving teams still can win the tourny .. it takes a little luck though.

PunkVideoGuys

01/23/06, 05:39 PM

UConn didnt have Williams and is a much better team now than they were then.

Uconn's front court will shut down Williams and they can alternate who covers Reddick. Uconn can beat Duke.

UConn CAN beat Duke. UConn WON'T beat Duke. Uconn would have to play nearly perfect and Duke would have to be off. Even though I LOVE UNC through and through you have respect people like JJ Reddick and Coach K. I hope I at least get a good game out of the rivalry this year...

hockey0001

01/23/06, 05:39 PM

No one on Uconn can cover Redick. No ONE person in college baskeball can cover Redick right now. Even alternating them (like they tried at Texas) just wears out 4 players instead of one.

Uconn is deep enough that they can alternate who covers Reddick and keep fresh bodies on him. I think Uconn can win if they do what Georgetown did, shut down everyone else (especially Williams) and let Reddick score 35-40.

ohgodohnoiam

01/23/06, 05:39 PM

Rankings usually aren't based on hypotheticals. I think the Zags matched up (tired) against Uconn and made a good game out of it (lost by what, 2?) doesn't make them a top 5 team in the standings. The defense of Duke will effect Williams like it did Feldman (that his name? UNC's point guard) last year .... if last year's Duke team can beat last years UNC team, this year's Duke team can beat this year's Uconn team.

Duke could beat Uconn and Uconn could beat Duke. I just don't think it's a closed case.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:40 PM

Duke could beat Uconn and Uconn could beat Duke. I just don't think it's a closed case.
Me neither .. that's why I took a side and made an argument for it.

PunkVideoGuys

01/23/06, 05:41 PM

P.S. Does anyone think JJ Reddick will be a huge success in the NBA or do you guys see him being a Brent Barry-type role player, like me?

hockey0001

01/23/06, 05:41 PM

UConn CAN beat Duke. UConn WON'T beat Duke. Uconn would have to play nearly perfect and Duke would have to be off. Even though I LOVE UNC through and through you have respect people like JJ Reddick and Coach K. I hope I at least get a good game out of the rivalry this year...

I think if both teams bring there A games then Uconn wins. They just have more depth and talent than Duke does. People always mention you have to respect Coach K, but how about Calhoun, he's done pretty good against coach K.

underthetalking

01/23/06, 05:42 PM

Daaaaaaaamn right.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:42 PM

Uconn is deep enough that they can alternate who covers Reddick and keep fresh bodies on him. I think Uconn can win if they do what Georgetown did, shut down everyone else (especially Williams) and let Reddick score 35-40.
Texas was "deep enough" too ... and I can almost guarantee Williams doesn't ever have a game where he scores only 4 points the rest of this season.

hockey0001

01/23/06, 05:42 PM

Duke could beat Uconn and Uconn could beat Duke. I just don't think it's a closed case.

Agreed, im hoping they meet again in the Final Four.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:42 PM

I think if both teams bring there A games then Uconn wins. They just have more depth and talent than Duke does. People always mention you have to respect Coach K, but how about Calhoun, he's done pretty good against coach K.
Such bullshit. Both A games, Duke kills them. Triple-Double from Williams, Redick for 40, Paulus with 11 assists, Dockery for 10, Melchioni 12 - 3 threes, McRoberts 4 points, 2 blocks. Game OVER.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:43 PM

P.S. Does anyone think JJ Reddick will be a huge success in the NBA or do you guys see him being a Brent Barry-type role player, like me?
I agree with Magic Johnson, "... he's going to be a star. We always need shooters."

hockey0001

01/23/06, 05:44 PM

Texas was "deep enough" too ... and I can almost guarantee Williams doesn't ever have a game where he scores only 4 points the rest of this season.

I'll admit that i dont know much about Texas, but Uconn deeper than Texas. I dont think williams will be held that low again either, but holding him to 8-12 isnt unreasonable to think

PunkVideoGuys

01/23/06, 05:44 PM

I think if both teams bring there A games then Uconn wins. They just have more depth and talent than Duke does. People always mention you have to respect Coach K, but how about Calhoun, he's done pretty good against coach K.

Has Calhoun has his team ranked #1 at some point in the season for about 8 straight years? K is in a league of his own, Man. I mean he's been dominating since like '92? There's no such thing as an "off year" at Duke. Last year was an "off year" and they were still ranked #1 at one point...

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:45 PM

Agreed, im hoping they meet again in the Final Four.
I think Uconn goes out in the sweet 16 this year ... they remind me far too much of Wake Forest last year .. wasted talent and cockiness.

ohgodohnoiam

01/23/06, 05:45 PM

Me neither .. that's why I took a side and made an argument for it.

Haha, I wasn't calling you out on it. It's just that we're talking about, arguably, the top two teams in the nation this year. Neither is miles ahead of the other, to say that ones guaranteed the championship at this point and the other sucks is foolish.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:46 PM

I'll admit that i dont know much about Texas, but Uconn deeper than Texas. I dont think williams will be held that low again either, but holding him to 8-12 isnt unreasonable to think
He hit 8-12, Duke beats Georgetown. That's all I'm saying.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:46 PM

Haha, I wasn't calling you out on it. It's just that we're talking about, arguably, the top two teams in the nation this year. Neither is miles ahead of the other, to say that ones guaranteed the championship at this point and the other sucks is foolish.
I agree, but I am going with my guts on this one.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:48 PM

Scott Weber

01/23/06, 05:49 PM

Yep. Doesn't mean I can't cheer for it to happen. I'll be cheering for every team UConn plays to beat them too .. :)
I'll be cheering for them all the way as well. I wish I had more faith in them...same goes for Washington. They'll lose at 16, maybe even 32 - they have upset written all over them, unless they step it up and start dominating the pac-10.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:50 PM

Agreed, im hoping they meet again in the Final Four.
Where the most insane call I've ever seen in sports was made last time? Redick drives, FOULED ON THE ARM, no call .. man, if Redick was as good as he is now that year - psh, UConn wouldn't of stood a chance.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:50 PM

I'll be cheering for them all the way as well. I wish I had more faith in them...same goes for Washington. They'll lose at 16, maybe even 32 - they have upset written all over them, unless they step it up and start dominating the pac-10.
I don't think Washington wins two games in the tourny this year. I just am not feeling it ... sorry dude. I'll be cheering for um though, would like to see them do well .. buuut, it'll be interesting.

Scott Weber

01/23/06, 05:51 PM

P.S. Does anyone think JJ Reddick will be a huge success in the NBA or do you guys see him being a Brent Barry-type role player, like me?
I have expressed before that I feel like he will be a great role player, but never a star. Can't see him scoring more than 20 a game, he's undersized. He could be a Brent Barry type player for sure though, make a real impact on a team.

hockey0001

01/23/06, 05:51 PM

Such bullshit. Both A games, Duke kills them. Triple-Double from Williams, Redick for 40, Paulus with 11 assists, Dockery for 10, Melchioni 12 - 3 threes, McRoberts 4 points, 2 blocks. Game OVER.

Doubtful. I can play this game too. Williams 15 assists, austrie with another 5. Armstrong/Boone dominate the glass on both ends, 10 blocks at least. Gay puts up 30 and Anderson comes off the bench with another 25. And this isnt even getting into Adrien/Brown/Nelson.

If both teams bring thier A games then neither teams put up what was just posted. If both teams bring their A games then the final score is likely somewhere around 77-74.

Scott Weber

01/23/06, 05:51 PM

I don't think Washington wins two games in the tourny this year. I just am not feeling it ... sorry dude. I'll be cheering for um though, would like to see them do well .. buuut, it'll be interesting.
Isn't that what I just said? Ha. The reason I think they can possibly get to 16 is that they will have a great seed at this point.

PunkVideoGuys

01/23/06, 05:52 PM

Should be interesting what UNC team shows up. Haha.

i know. I hope I don't see the shitfest that they've been showing in the last couple weeks. Hansborough's a monster though. We're top 5 Next year. Who's gonna replace Reddick, Williams and Dockery?

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:54 PM

I have expressed before that I feel like he will be a great role player, but never a star. Can't see him scoring more than 20 a game, he's undersized. He could be a Brent Barry type player for sure though, make a real impact on a team.
I don't see how anyone's going to guard him in the NBA. I could see him taking a year or so to adjust ... working his ass off (it's legendary how hard he trains) and then drop'in 30 a game. The right team with the right other players (and a star) around him - and he makes that team an instant threat everynight.

I want the trades to work out, and Morisson and Redick to end up on the same team in like 5 years .. hahaha. Hell, I'd like to see them both on the Olympic team.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 05:54 PM

Doubtful. I can play this game too. Williams 15 assists, austrie with another 5. Armstrong/Boone dominate the glass on both ends, 10 blocks at least. Gay puts up 30 and Anderson comes off the bench with another 25. And this isnt even getting into Adrien/Brown/Nelson.

If both teams bring thier A games then neither teams put up what was just posted. If both teams bring their A games then the final score is likely somewhere around 77-74.
Has Gay put up 30 once this year? Or Williams had over 12 assists?

UConn lives and dies by ARMSTRONG in my opinion - he's the key to the team.

PunkVideoGuys

01/23/06, 05:55 PM

hockey0001

01/23/06, 05:56 PM

Where the most insane call I've ever seen in sports was made last time? Redick drives, FOULED ON THE ARM, no call .. man, if Redick was as good as he is now that year - psh, UConn wouldn't of stood a chance.

That game was poorly reffed the whole game, for both teams. And i thought it was Duhon, not Reddick, of were thinking of the same play.

Scott Weber

01/23/06, 05:58 PM

I don't see how anyone's going to guard him in the NBA. I could see him taking a year or so to adjust ... working his ass off (it's legendary how hard he trains) and then drop'in 30 a game. The right team with the right other players (and a star) around him - and he makes that team an instant threat everynight.

I want the trades to work out, and Morisson and Redick to end up on the same team in like 5 years .. hahaha. Hell, I'd like to see them both on the Olympic team.
People guard Ray Allen, who's never averaged close to 30 a game in a season and is a better and more complete player than J.J. Redick. Plus, Redick is undersized for the 2, and he's no Allen Iverson. There's no way he'll put up 30 a game. Plus, if he has a star around him, he'll never even get 20 a game - the NBA is full of selfish dudes.

hockey0001

01/23/06, 05:59 PM

Has Gay put up 30 once this year? Or Williams had over 12 assists?

UConn lives and dies by ARMSTRONG in my opinion - he's the key to the team.

He put up 28 against arkansas, but i think its fair to say that if he brings his A game he puts up 30. Williams most this year is 11, but he had 16 twice last year.

PunkVideoGuys

01/23/06, 06:01 PM

He put up 28 against arkansas, but i think its fair to say that if he brings his A game he puts up 30.

hahahahhaa. dude. wtf? arkansas' and Duke's Defense are 2 completely different things. what are you thinking?

Drew Beringer

01/23/06, 06:01 PM

Gonzaga, Duke, Illinois, West Virginia.

That's the Final Four I want.

No Wisconsin? :(

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:03 PM

People guard Ray Allen, who's never averaged close to 30 a game in a season and is a better and more complete player than J.J. Redick. Plus, Redick is undersized for the 2, and he's no Allen Iverson. There's no way he'll put up 30 a game. Plus, if he has a star around him, he'll never even get 20 a game - the NBA is full of selfish dudes.
What do I get if I'm right? I didn't say he'd average it, I said he'd hit it. Ray Allen averages like 25. And is only shooting 38% from behind the arc this year ... I think you're wrong. So does Magic Johnson ... so, we'll see in the end. Especially as his ball handling skills improve (as they have every year) he'll just keep getting better and more difficult to contain.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:03 PM

No Wisconsin? :(
I picked my 4 favorite teams. Haha. I'm going, I want to pick my favs! \

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:04 PM

PS this syracuse pitt game is pssing me off.. haha, close, not close, close, not close.. arg.

Drew Beringer

01/23/06, 06:04 PM

I picked my 4 favorite teams. Haha. I'm going, I want to pick my favs! \

lol, fair enough. I'm just happy if Wisconsin makes the Sweet 16/Elite 8, which they usually do.

hockey0001

01/23/06, 06:04 PM

hahahahhaa. dude. wtf? arkansas' and Duke's Defense are 2 completely different things. what are you thinking?

I was just answering the question.

ohgodohnoiam

01/23/06, 06:05 PM

hockey0001

01/23/06, 06:06 PM

PS this syracuse pitt game is pssing me off.. haha, close, not close, close, not close.. arg.

Same here, i keep flipping between that and the Bruins game. Syracuse is either down by 4 or 14 each time.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:06 PM

I don't know if it would be a good sign for Uconn if Gay got 30 plus points against Duke. For him to get that many shots would mean that the rest of the team is playing sub par. I'd say Gay would get between 18-24 points against Duke on an average day for both him and Duke.
He's averaging what, 15? I think he is the most over-rated player in the NCAA - or he just doesn't care (Wake Forest syndrome; I'm telling ya! Early exit baby!).

Drew Beringer

01/23/06, 06:07 PM

UConn hasn't impressed me once this year.

hockey0001

01/23/06, 06:07 PM

I don't know if it would be a good sign for Uconn if Gay got 30 plus points against Duke. For him to get that many shots would mean that the rest of the team is playing sub par. I'd say Gay would get between 18-24 points against Duke on an average day for both him and Duke.

I agree. I was just listing hypotheticals if every player brought their A game.

Drew Beringer

01/23/06, 06:08 PM

He's averaging what, 15? I think he is the most over-rated player in the NCAA - or he just doesn't care (Wake Forest syndrome; I'm telling ya! Early exit baby!).

I hate WF just because Chris Paul was a bitch.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:09 PM

I hate WF just because Chris Paul was a bitch.
Penis punching mother fucker! I hated him too.

hockey0001

01/23/06, 06:09 PM

He's averaging what, 15? I think he is the most over-rated player in the NCAA - or he just doesn't care (Wake Forest syndrome; I'm telling ya! Early exit baby!).

I think its a combination of him being a naturally unselfish player and Uconn has so many weapons to choose from. Gay does not need to be the focal point for them to win, but if he decides that he wants to then Uconn would start dominating almost everyone.

Drew Beringer

01/23/06, 06:10 PM

Penis punching mother fucker! I hated him too.

Even though he punched Hodges, who I hate also.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:11 PM

Even though he punched Hodges, who I hate also.
ME 2.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:11 PM

I think its a combination of him being a naturally unselfish player and Uconn has so many weapons to choose from. Gay does not need to be the focal point for them to win, but if he decides that he wants to then Uconn would start dominating almost everyone.
I disagree almost 100%. But I don't go to the school .. haha.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:12 PM

Hey, Pat Sumpter and Tenessee .. right now, suck my dick!

hockey0001

01/23/06, 06:13 PM

I disagree almost 100%. But I don't go to the school .. haha.

Haha, I'm not gonna lie, im biased. I try not to be but its hard to completely remove all bias. Theres probably a little bit of wishful/hopeful thinking involved in there too. This has been a fun argument, but 24 is about to come on, so i'll be gone for about hour or so.

bigmike

01/23/06, 06:14 PM

Hey, Pat Sumpter and Tenessee .. right now, suck my dick!

isn't it pat summit?

ohgodohnoiam

01/23/06, 06:14 PM

Uconn has six guys averaging 9+ points a game. They might not have a super star on their team but they can bring a solid game on a regular basis.

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:15 PM

isn't it pat summit?
Yah, whatever. Hahaha.. I don't watch NCAABW much.

G-Unit

01/23/06, 06:17 PM

Duke is no good. UCONN>Duke.

make a comedy cd

Jason Tate

01/23/06, 06:18 PM

Uconn has six guys averaging 9+ points a game. They might not have a super star on their team but they can bring a solid game on a regular basis.
Marquette disagrees :)

G-Unit

01/23/06, 06:19 PM

hahaha, without JJ Duke sucks, and any night someone from UCONN can step up and dominate.

dominate? jj had 41 the other night. they only lost cause freshman didnt show up and shelden had foul trouble and was taken out of the game. josh boone isnt stepping up and scoring 41

ohgodohnoiam

01/23/06, 06:28 PM

Marquette disagrees :)

How'd I know that was coming......

ohgodohnoiam

01/23/06, 06:30 PM

dominate? jj had 41 the other night. they only lost cause freshman didnt show up and shelden had foul trouble and was taken out of the game. josh boone isnt stepping up and scoring 41

There's no need for one guy to get 41 when you have six guys that can contribute in the double digets when needed.

bigmike

01/23/06, 06:30 PM

Yah, whatever. Hahaha.. I don't watch NCAABW much.

neither do i, but i heard a big thing about her winning her 900th game or something the other night.

G-Unit

01/23/06, 06:32 PM

I hate WF just because Chris Paul was a bitch.

agree 100%

G-Unit

01/23/06, 06:35 PM

There's no need for one guy to get 41 when you have six guys that can contribute in the double digets when needed.

dockery, melchionni, williams, paulus/mcroberts, nelson when healthy