Is This What You Wanted?

[Matthew]

Here we are on the eve of war. Tonight will be the last time that some people are going to ever see their family and friends again. And the only people that want this shit are sleeping sound in their fucking DC estates getting ready for their next empty speech. Its all a game to them, but their playing with people's lives...

THANKS A LOT FLORIDA!

[Knife Party]

i missed voting in that election by 2 weeks.........

dont blame me!

[pikenz]

theres a poitical forum

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
THANKS A LOT FLORIDA!

and Jeb...

and the supreme court...

and butterfly ballots...

and overseas ballots...

and the 100,000 unconvicted "felons" who weren't allowed to vote...

and Fox News...

[NOOOOOAHHHH]

i know this is weak that ive heard this song but what can i say my sister is a country freak and hey i do live on a farm...anyway listen to travelin soldier by the dixie chicks...it would make anyone re think war...and if you cant bring yourself to listening to it at least check out the lyrics here...http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/dixiechicks/travelinsoldier.html

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
and Jeb...

and the supreme court...

and butterfly ballots...

and overseas ballots...

and the 100,000 unconvicted "felons" who weren't allowed to vote...

and Fox News...

The butterfly ballots were the democrates fault, and if your to stupid to vote maybe you shouldn't. The overseas ballots would have mostly been for bush seeing as the military citizens tend overwelmingly to vote Republican. And im not really sure how FOX had any part in it. (the other two im not even going to speak on because it will just start another fight.)

[The Nephilm]

one of the two people who designed the ballot was previously a republican who worked for Bush sr.

and 500+ overseas ballots were counted that were either past the deadline or unsigned.

[The Nephilm]

and Bush's cousin who was in charge of the campaign coverage at Fox announced that Bush had one and all the other networks followed which had a devistating psycholigical affect on Gore's chances of winning.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
and Bush's cousin who was in charge of the campaign coverage at Fox announced that Bush had one and all the other networks followed which had a devistating psycholigical affect on Gore's chances of winning.

I never heard that one before, but ill look in to it.

[yeat182]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
Here we are on the eve of war. Tonight will be the last time that some people are going to ever see their family and friends again. And the only people that want this shit are sleeping sound in their fucking DC estates getting ready for their next empty speech. Its all a game to them, but their playing with people's lives...

THANKS A LOT FLORIDA!

i wanted saddam to obey the UN resolutions 12 years ago...thanks alot baghdad.

[Justin_stacy]

Check this site out.

http://www.baltimoremd.com/humor/ballot.html

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Check this site out.

http://www.baltimoremd.com/humor/ballot.html

haha that was actually good

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
haha that was actually good
thank you.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
and Bush's cousin who was in charge of the campaign coverage at Fox announced that Bush had one and all the other networks followed which had a devistating psycholigical affect on Gore's chances of winning.

In that same thing, Palm Spring is run by Democrats so that didn't really give Bush a fair shot at any recounts there.

[NOFXdesendents5]

yes i am

[savestheglory]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
Here we are on the eve of war. Tonight will be the last time that some people are going to ever see their family and friends again. And the only people that want this shit are sleeping sound in their fucking DC estates getting ready for their next empty speech. Its all a game to them, but their playing with people's lives...

THANKS A LOT FLORIDA!

hmmm that whole "people will never see their families again" reminds me of the 3000+ americans who died needlessly at the hands of terrorists that saddam hussein funded, founded and helped train.... how many times will mass americans and iraqis have to die before you realize that saddam hussein and other terrorist dictating leaders have to be put to justice..... your bleeding heart liberal pussy pennsylvania quaker save humanity piece of shit attitude is going to get our country into more trouble than if we stand up for ourselves and show the terrorists that THEY can't fly OUR airplanes into OUR building and get away with it

there are going to be so few american casualties in this war its funny... iraqi soldiers are already trying to surrender hahah

[Matthew]

Originally posted by savestheglory
hmmm that whole "people will never see their families again" reminds me of the 3000+ americans who died needlessly at the hands of terrorists that saddam hussein funded, founded and helped train......... your bleeding heart liberal pussy pennsylvania quaker

1. There is no evidence that Saddam funded or trained the 9/11 hijackers. But 70% of Americans believe there is. There's proof of a lying administration.

2. Attacking Iraq is ASKING for more terrorist attacks. We are provoking the terrorists.

3. I live in Texas.

[yeat182]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
1. There is no evidence that Saddam funded or trained the 9/11 hijackers. But 70% of Americans believe there is. There's proof of a lying administration.

2. Attacking Iraq is ASKING for more terrorist attacks. We are provoking the terrorists.

3. I live in Texas.

1. the fact that 70% of the american people believe saddam was involved with the 9/11 hijackers doen't prove that the adminsitration is lying, it only proves that 70% of americans are un-informed.


2. the terrorist already hate us, that shouldn't be a reason for in-action. we did nothing and were attacked on september 11th, they don't need reasons to hate us.

[Matthew]

Originally posted by yeat182
1. the fact that 70% of the american people believe saddam was involved with the 9/11 hijackers doen't prove that the adminsitration is lying, it only proves that 70% of americans are un-informed.


2. the terrorist already hate us, that shouldn't be a reason for in-action. we did nothing and were attacked on september 11th, they don't need reasons to hate us.

1. The Bush Administration has gone to great lengths to suggest to the American people that Saddam was responsible for the attacks of 9/11. In reality he played no part. You said he did, so by both of our logic you are uninformed, and thus shouldnt be arguing.


2. 9/11 will be nothing compared to what's next. What we are doing is like slapping a hornets nest in response to a bee sting. We will suffer greatly for it, and are inviting danger upon the american people.

ALso, by bypassing the UN and going to war anyway, we ahve shown just as much disregard for global policy as IRaq. We are also a belligerent rogue nation. We are just as bad.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
and the 100,000 unconvicted "felons" who weren't allowed to vote...


felons arent legally allowed to vote dumbfuck. otherwise every damn politician in office would be a liberal, the income tax on the rich would be 90%, weed would be legal, no more death penalty and white males become the most discriminated against race. fuck you

[yeat182]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
1. The Bush Administration has gone to great lengths to suggest to the American people that Saddam was responsible for the attacks of 9/11. In reality he played no part. You said he did, so by both of our logic you are uninformed, and thus shouldnt be arguing.


2. 9/11 will be nothing compared to what's next. What we are doing is like slapping a hornets nest in response to a bee sting. We will suffer greatly for it, and are inviting danger upon the american people.

ALso, by bypassing the UN and going to war anyway, we ahve shown just as much disregard for global policy as IRaq. We are also a belligerent rogue nation. We are just as bad.


1. The administration has never said Iraq was responsible for 9/11, i'd like to see some proof to the contrary...

we are not bypassing the UN. the UN voted unanimously, 15-0, for resolution 1441, which called for "immediate' disarmarment or Iraq would face "serious consequences". when the time came to enforce that resolution the UN failed. the US had signed the cease fire agreement with Iraq, in which Iraq agreed to the terms of UN resolutions, all 17 of which were disobeyed, and there for the US has the legal right to enforce the terms of the cease fire. The UN failed, and they've let a brutal dictator make a total farce out of their organization for 12 years.

[Matthew]

"Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own. "

--- From GWB's State of The Union Address, which can be read in full here:

http://www.themoderntribune.com/george_bush_state_of_the_union_addr ess_january_28,_2003_-_president_george_w__bush.htm



Does he actually give the proof? No. He just expects us to believe it exists. For more on that, go here:

http://www.themoderntribune.com/george_bush_speech_sstate_of_the_un ion_2003_-_war_on_iraq.htm

Cut and paste if no link shows up.

I know what Im talking about.


ANd as for the UN, we were supposed to wait for UN to greenlight any US force in the resolution to be passed
yesterday night. We knew they wouldnt so we circumvented them. This creates an additude of: obedience only when our interests are served. That is inexcusable.


The UN did not "fail". They, like the rest of the world, see no cause for war.

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
felons arent legally allowed to vote dumbfuck. otherwise every damn politician in office would be a liberal, the income tax on the rich would be 90%, weed would be legal, no more death penalty and white males become the most discriminated against race. fuck you

the key word was "unconvicted"

there was a list of felons, and then people were added who had similar last names, and those who had misdeamenor offenses and were related to the list of felons...

the majority of these people were black, and in Florida 90% of blacks voted for Gore.

So FUCK YOU

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
the key word was "unconvicted"

there was a list of felons, and then people were added who had similar last names, and those who had misdeamenor offenses and were related to the list of felons...

the majority of these people were black, and in Florida 90% of blacks voted for Gore.

So FUCK YOU
ok so? even those with misdemeanor charges shouldnt be able to vote

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
ok so? even those with misdemeanor charges shouldnt be able to vote

Thats stupid, every one fucks up once or twice in there life, and that doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to vote. Misdemeanors are minor charges where no physical harm was done, and i dont think these people should lose there right to vote.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Thats stupid, every one fucks up once or twice in there life, and that doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to vote. Misdemeanors are minor charges where no physical harm was done, and i dont think these people should lose there right to vote.
Assault-misdemeanor
Possesion-misdemeanor
Rape-misdemeanor (strange cases, but has occured)

Should these people be allowed to vote? I think not. Hell, some guy here in Oregon beat some guy to death, and got the charge reduced to a misdemeanor so he could play football in college. You want him voting?

[BrandNewRock05]

Another thing that should not allow you to vote. If you are dumb enough not to be able to pull the "hanging chads" off of your ballot, or vote for Bush by accident when you thought you were voting for Buchanon, automaticly invalid.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy

I know what Im talking about.


ANd as for the UN, we were supposed to wait for UN to greenlight any US force in the resolution to be passed
yesterday night. We knew they wouldnt so we circumvented them. This creates an additude of: obedience only when our interests are served. That is inexcusable.


The UN did not "fail". They, like the rest of the world, see no cause for war.

The UN did fail 12 times and thats just on the IRAQ issuse.
And to use the term "the rest of the World see no cause for war," is just wrong.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81420,00.html

[yeat182]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
"Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own. "

--- From GWB's State of The Union Address, which can be read in full here:

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Does he actually give the proof? No. He just expects us to believe it exists. For more on that, go here:



that makes no mention of Iraq being involved in September 11th. all it states is that Iraq has protected and aided members of Al-qaeda. you said it yourself, "does he actually give proof? No.". that in no way suggests that Iraq was responsible for 9/11. you are obvioulsy the one who is uninformed and should not be argueing.

[savestheglory]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
1. There is no evidence that Saddam funded or trained the 9/11 hijackers. But 70% of Americans believe there is. There's proof of a lying administration.

2. Attacking Iraq is ASKING for more terrorist attacks. We are provoking the terrorists.

3. I live in Texas.

tell me where you get your information... have you spoken with saddam recently? i just want to know how you know these things because you can't just make stuff up, i'm really sorry you just cant

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by savestheglory
tell me where you get your information... have you spoken with saddam recently? i just want to know how you know these things because you can't just make stuff up, i'm really sorry you just cant
Well said

[savestheglory]

hey screamo how interesting do you think teh president's speech would be if he said"

and in 1993, at 7:45 in the morning, saddam hussein was on the telephone in his office, he said into the phone that he was giving away some money. this money went to the terrorists. We traced the money blablabla let's listen to a 3 hour conversation between saddam hussein and his friends blablabla"

these speeches are supposed to be concise and to the point, not packed with boring evidence nobody needs to hear, he has the proof,

colin powell has backed up everything he is saying with satellite photos and all kinds of evidence you just don't watch that part

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by savestheglory
hey screamo how interesting do you think teh president's speech would be if he said"

and in 1993, at 7:45 in the morning, saddam hussein was on the telephone in his office, he said into the phone that he was giving away some money. this money went to the terrorists. We traced the money blablabla let's listen to a 3 hour conversation between saddam hussein and his friends blablabla"

these speeches are supposed to be concise and to the point, not packed with boring evidence nobody needs to hear, he has the proof,

colin powell has backed up everything he is saying with satellite photos and all kinds of evidence you just don't watch that part
thats the conservative way....evidence
the liberal way.....hersay and blaming republicans with no evidence

[kidinthecorner]

Originally posted by yeat182
that makes no mention of Iraq being involved in September 11th. all it states is that Iraq has protected and aided members of Al-qaeda. you said it yourself, "does he actually give proof? No.". that in no way suggests that Iraq was responsible for 9/11. you are obvioulsy the one who is uninformed and should not be argueing.

That's what I was gonna say before I read the rest of the thread. He never said 9/11, he said Al Qaeda. They've done stuff BESIDES 9/11...

[Jim Morgan]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
Here we are on the eve of war. Tonight will be the last time that some people are going to ever see their family and friends again. And the only people that want this shit are sleeping sound in their fucking DC estates getting ready for their next empty speech. Its all a game to them, but their playing with people's lives...

THANKS A LOT FLORIDA!

i happen to support the war, as do others around this country. so your wrong

[kidinthecorner]

Hey Raegan4Rushmore, did you really need 2 posts for that? You dumbfuck...I've been at this site for like 2 weeks and some of you immature people annoy the crap outta me already.

[only1]

look, no matter what your opinion is on the whole war issue, i still dont understand why we have to go so soon. has everyone forgotten that we have no actualy evidence that iraq has weapons of mass distruction?? we just think they do. colin powell has admitted himself that there has not been a smoking gun. if iraq has these weapons then yes, we should go to war. but until we find them, we need to hold off. you people are lucky, it seems to me like no one you know is going overseas to fight. maybe if someone close to you was put in a position where they could die, you might not feel so strongly about going to war. americans right now seem to have no conscience. they are selfish andonly care about themselves. they dont give a fuck if children or moms or dads are killed over in iraq for no true reason. its really really sad

[kidinthecorner]

I'm pro-war, although I don't exactly like that term..:

-My uncle is over there
-My brother is just shipping out
-My math teacher is over there working with Brit Commandos
-My friends brother is there, although about to come home with a torn something-or-other in his knee.

[yeat182]

Originally posted by only1
look, no matter what your opinion is on the whole war issue, i still dont understand why we have to go so soon. has everyone forgotten that we have no actualy evidence that iraq has weapons of mass distruction?? we just think they do. colin powell has admitted himself that there has not been a smoking gun. if iraq has these weapons then yes, we should go to war. but until we find them, we need to hold off. you people are lucky, it seems to me like no one you know is going overseas to fight. maybe if someone close to you was put in a position where they could die, you might not feel so strongly about going to war. americans right now seem to have no conscience. they are selfish andonly care about themselves. they dont give a fuck if children or moms or dads are killed over in iraq for no true reason. its really really sad


we do have proof that he had WMD's, and we have no proof that he's destroyed them..

[Jim Morgan]

Originally posted by kidinthecorner
I'm pro-war, although I don't exactly like that term..:

-My uncle is over there
-My brother is just shipping out
-My math teacher is over there working with Brit Commandos
-My friends brother is there, although about to come home with a torn something-or-other in his knee.

Best of luck to them all, my brother is in Kuwait, 30 miles from the Irai border as far as I know, and waiting to be sent into Iraq.

[cornecopria]

that sucks that those people may die because of the biggest morons in the world, Bush and Saddam

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by cornecopria
that sucks that those people may die because of the biggest morons in the world, Bush and Saddam
suck my dick you retard. Bush is doing this for the people of Iraq. If Bush was such a retard, and had no regard for Iraqi life he would have just dropped the nuke. But he didnt. Most Iraqis have left Baghdad, and they are using laser guided missles to take out certain targets that contain no civilians, you are one dumbfuck you stupid son of a bitch

[savestheglory]

Originally posted by only1
look, no matter what your opinion is on the whole war issue, i still dont understand why we have to go so soon. has everyone forgotten that we have no actualy evidence that iraq has weapons of mass distruction?? we just think they do. colin powell has admitted himself that there has not been a smoking gun. if iraq has these weapons then yes, we should go to war. but until we find them, we need to hold off. you people are lucky, it seems to me like no one you know is going overseas to fight. maybe if someone close to you was put in a position where they could die, you might not feel so strongly about going to war. americans right now seem to have no conscience. they are selfish andonly care about themselves. they dont give a fuck if children or moms or dads are killed over in iraq for no true reason. its really really sad


thats a great idea, so your saying we shoud wait until they actually BOMB us with their weapons and then say "whelp theres the smoking gun lets go in now"

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that wouldn't be a good plan