Rules That Need To Be Changed

[itsjdiggity]

What are some rules that need to be changed?

NFL: Tripping: I don't see what the big deal is.
Overtime: Switch to college style or win by 4
Pass Interference: Be able to review it.

NBA: Flopping: One technical for flopping.

[mikeford]

drop the fight instigator rule in hockey.

[weezer182]

the clock should continue to run in college football after a first down

[Darren McLeod]

Hockey should get rid of the goalie's playing the puck restrictions

[richter915]

Hockey should get rid of the goalie's playing the puck restrictions
agreed...goalies should be "free game" for checks and contact anywhere outside of the crease and the trapezoid

[gnfnrs91]

we gotta keep the tuck rule. that cannot change!!!

[FondestMemory]

NFL: Overtime: Switch to college style or win by 4.

i could not disagree more. i hate hate hate the college overtime system. maybe if they backed it up to the offense's own 40 it'd be better. make them go 60 yards for a td. starting them in field goal range is ridiculous.

i love sudden death. people argue that both teams should get the ball. but if your defense can't step it up in overtime with the game on the line and get your team the ball back, then maybe you don't deserve to win.

seriously though, i can be really into a college game, but if it goes into overtime i lose interest and stop watching. i'd rather have ties back than making the game into a shootout.

[weezer182]

NFL: Tripping: I don't see what the big deal is.
its probably there because it is way to easy to trip someone. anyone can trip someone, not everyone can make a good tackle

[Scott Weber]

I don't care for sudden death overtime.

my least favorite rule is the knee-down contact/play is dead rule in college football - you should have to be touched down, like in pro football.

[weezer182]

i wouldnt mind seeing the american league get rid of the dh but that wont happen

[YourLatestVicti]

i wouldnt mind seeing the american league get rid of the dh but that wont happen
They either need to get rid of the dh in the AL or add the dh in the NL.

[Doug]

I don't care for sudden death overtime.

my least favorite rule is the knee-down contact/play is dead rule in college football - you should have to be touched down, like in pro football.

probably the best sig ever

[sweethypocrisy]

i could not disagree more. i hate hate hate the college overtime system. maybe if they backed it up to the offense's own 40 it'd be better. make them go 60 yards for a td. starting them in field goal range is ridiculous.

i love sudden death. people argue that both teams should get the ball. but if your defense can't step it up in overtime with the game on the line and get your team the ball back, then maybe you don't deserve to win.

seriously though, i can be really into a college game, but if it goes into overtime i lose interest and stop watching. i'd rather have ties back than making the game into a shootout.
you didnt watch the orange bowl did you?

[Frank Giaramita]

i could not disagree more. i hate hate hate the college overtime system. maybe if they backed it up to the offense's own 40 it'd be better. make them go 60 yards for a td. starting them in field goal range is ridiculous.

i love sudden death. people argue that both teams should get the ball. but if your defense can't step it up in overtime with the game on the line and get your team the ball back, then maybe you don't deserve to win.

seriously though, i can be really into a college game, but if it goes into overtime i lose interest and stop watching. i'd rather have ties back than making the game into a shootout.
Are you kidding? The entire game coming down to a coin flip is absolutely ridiculous in the NFL, It's ridiculous how a team can lose in overtime without even given the chance to score. That HAS to change.

[YourLatestVicti]

Are you kidding? The entire game coming down to a coin flip is absolutely ridiculous in the NFL, It's ridiculous how a team can lose in overtime without even given the chance to score. That HAS to change.
It sucks, but in my opinion there's no better alternative.

[Scott Weber]

probably the best sig ever
;)

[still_life]

They need to change that "the runner is ruled down by contact, so you can't challenge this obvious fumble we fucked up" bullshit. That happens at least once every week, and teams can never take advantage of it.

[dont you move]

shootouts in hockey need to go
and so should that rule in the nhl, nba, nfl, mlb, etc (probably except golf) that if you score less than your opponent, you lose

[lesto17]

The NFL either needs to fully embrace the challenge system or do away with it. Having so many limitations is dumb. You can challenge if a receiver had control of a ball if he goes out of bound under his own power, but not if it was RULED a force out. Well maybe the ref fucked up and it wasn't REALLY a force out, shouldn't a team be able to challenge that?

I also agree that sudden death overtime is dumb. It gives one team an obvious advantage. Whoever argued that if your defense can't hold a team then you dont deserve to get the ball, that really doesnt justify the fact that one team gets a free drive just because they picked the right side of a coin while the other team has to earn another posession. Say neither team has a defense capable of holding the other teams offense, then by your standards neither team deserves to win, but one team has to. So that is basically giving the game to winner of a coin toss. In the result of a tie at the end of regulation they should simply add another "quarter" (not necessarily a full quarter, but a set time of play in which both teams have chances to score).

[FondestMemory]

Are you kidding? The entire game coming down to a coin flip is absolutely ridiculous in the NFL, It's ridiculous how a team can lose in overtime without even given the chance to score. That HAS to change.

it doesn't all come down to a coin flip though. there is more to the team than offense. the team that gets the ball first doesn't always score first. defense needs to play with their backs against the wall to get their team the ball back.

the college system practically makes defense irrelevant. at least back them up and make them earn even field goal range.

[ThriftWhore]

NFL:

- overtime in nfl needs to go to college rules. it's not right that a team can win by a coin flip, both teams should have a shot. someone said that the college system makes defense irrevelant- news flash, there is hardly any defense in college to speak of anyway, so it doesn't really matter, plus with defenses in the NFL being as good as they are lately, it can only make it more interesting.

- the rules of the endzone need to be redone. i hate the fact that a runner can jump over the pileon, his pinky just barely over it, with the ball coming out, and it's a touchdown, while receivers who catch the ball need to get two feet down, and have possession without a bobble for it to be considered a touchdown. i say make the rule universal, ball control in the endzone, forget about two feet down for a touchdown to a receiver or else change the runner's rules over the pileon.

- let up on the late hit to the qb/hands to the face penalty.

- support the challenge aspect of the game, or get rid of it all together. make everything challenge-able so there is absolutely no loopholes or doubts, who cares if it slows down the game you'll be more pissed if the refs blew a pass interference call against your team to cost them the game, than if you watch football for a few minutes longer, even if.

- HORSE COLLAR NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED, OR IT NEEDS TO GO! this was the year of the horse-collar tackle, and i barely saw it called.

MLB:

- instant, fucking, replay. i'm sick of the people saying it will slow down the game, the game is already slow, whats another few minutes going to save you in order to get a call right. human error is NEVER part of a sport, unless it is getting corrected. period.

[Scott Weber]

They need to change that "the runner is ruled down by contact, so you can't challenge this obvious fumble we fucked up" bullshit. That happens at least once every week, and teams can never take advantage of it.
Totally agree with that.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

MLB:

- instant, fucking, replay. i'm sick of the people saying it will slow down the game, the game is already slow, whats another few minutes going to save you in order to get a call right. human error is NEVER part of a sport, unless it is getting corrected. period.
But where do you draw the line? You cant argue every ball and strike. The strike zone changes based on umpire. Unless you want to make the strike zone computerized, but then you’re taking away part of the game. And you also cant argue every out call. What are you going to take away from the team? An out? You cant take away the most important part of the game. Its a nice idea, but in the game of baseball it just wont work. Besides, I wouldn't want instant reply in baseball. The game would lose history and prestige. Just hire better umps who don’t fuck up a phantom dropped strike three call.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

shootouts in hockey need to go
and so should that rule in the nhl, nba, nfl, mlb, etc (probably except golf) that if you score less than your opponent, you lose
sooooo, what would be the point of playing?

[Frank Giaramita]

It sucks, but in my opinion there's no better alternative.
Yes there is. Do it the same way it is now except if a team scores, the other team gets a shot to even it. Sudden death can only make sense in a sport where the transition to offense and defense (and vica versa) is sudden and frequent (like Hockey, Soccer or Lacrosse)... in Football, each team should have a shot.

[justinevans]

the clock should continue to run in college football after a first down

nah it is good the way it is.

[justinevans]

its probably there because it is way to easy to trip someone. anyone can trip someone, not everyone can make a good tackle

it has more to do with preventing injury.

[justinevans]

haha nfl overtime - each team get to kick a 35,45,55 yard field goal. If both teams make them. Each teams gets the ball @ the 50 and has to throw a hail mary.

[Goodbye Forever]

The NFL should keep OT sudden death, but eliminate the field goal.

[somethingyellow]

nah it is good the way it is.why? it drags those games on longer then they should be, imo

[looksthatkillbn]

Tennis needs to implement ShotSpot on the chair. They're trying it this year at the US Open. All experimentation has been a huge success. This should happen at every tennis tournament..

[ActorInThisPlay]

i never understood why on offense in football, if you have the ball, you can shove your fingers in their facemask and grab it and twist it around, whereas on defense it is a 15 yeard penalty. if facemasking is dangerous, then don't allow it when the player has the ball too.

[Brownpants06]

Need to get rid of shootout in NHL after 5 min overtime. That's such a gimmick. I really hope it's not used in the playoffs.

[Goodbye Forever]

i never understood why on offense in football, if you have the ball, you can shove your fingers in their facemask and grab it and twist it around, whereas on defense it is a 15 yeard penalty. if facemasking is dangerous, then don't allow it when the player has the ball too.

It's supposed to be illegal for offensive linemen to do, at least. Eric Williams rule.

[itsjdiggity]

for non-hockey fans like me, i like shootout

[YourLatestVicti]

Need to get rid of shootout in NHL after 5 min overtime. That's such a gimmick. I really hope it's not used in the playoffs.
I don't think it's gonna be used in the playoffs. I'm almost positive they're gonna stick with the twenty minute over time periods until someone scores.

[mikeford]

I don't think it's gonna be used in the playoffs. I'm almost positive they're gonna stick with the twenty minute over time periods until someone scores.

correct.

if they seriously eliminated overtime hockey in the playoffs id shoot gary betteman in the brain.

the thing about playoff overtime is that it keeps going... no one scores in 20 minutes, cool lets play another 20 minute period. no ties that way either.

[somethingyellow]

correct.

if they seriously eliminated overtime hockey in the playoffs id shoot gary betteman in the brain.

the thing about playoff overtime is that it keeps going... no one scores in 20 minutes, cool lets play another 20 minute period. no ties that way either.thats definately the way it should be

[justinevans]

why? it drags those games on longer then they should be, imo

cause in college, the refs are alot slower @ setting the ball especially in the shittier conferences. a college game lasts no longer than nfl.

[still_life]

cause in college, the refs are alot slower @ setting the ball especially in the shittier conferences. a college game lasts no longer than nfl.

College games are longer, but it's mostly because of the longer halftime shit they do.

[Lemieux66]

Yes there is. Do it the same way it is now except if a team scores, the other team gets a shot to even it. Sudden death can only make sense in a sport where the transition to offense and defense (and vica versa) is sudden and frequent (like Hockey, Soccer or Lacrosse)... in Football, each team should have a shot.

Last I checked both teams are on the field during OT and both teams can score on any play.

[El_Jeffe]

Tennis needs to implement ShotSpot on the chair. They're trying it this year at the US Open. All experimentation has been a huge success. This should happen at every tennis tournament..


agreed 100%

they should also get rid of
the heavy penalties for light doses
of on-court anger

[Jason Tate]

Just cause I want to see the drama it causes - I think in Basketball you should be able to "play advantage" like in Soccer ... those that play soccer know what I'm talking about - it would make the end of games NUTS. Hahahaa... such a bad idea, but I love it.

[Jason Tate]

Last I checked both teams are on the field during OT and both teams can score on any play.
:rolleyes:

[lesto17]

Just cause I want to see the drama it causes - I think in Basketball you should be able to "play advantage" like in Soccer ... those that play soccer know what I'm talking about - it would make the end of games NUTS. Hahahaa... such a bad idea, but I love it.


Hahaha...Wow Tate I never even would have thought about that. It sure would make games.........interesting?

[bigleague9]

football: make referees' judgement calls challengable (force out, pass interference, etc.)--if they watch video in slower motion they can change their judgement calls back. Also, for fumbles in football they should automatically rule the ball a fumble and then review it without charging the team with a challenge/time-out. It would slow the game down by maybe 10 minutes but that would generate more commercial revenue for the league and I think fans would gladly sacrifice the time for the right call.

Baseball needs instant replay for fair/foul, and safe/out. To make up for the time lost in replays they should limit the time between pitches and only allow the catcher to talk to the pitcher twice an inning. Limiting the time the batter can be out of the batter's box doing absolutely nothing would help save time too.

For all sports, beer consumption should be limited to 2-3 per game. Sure, it would be easy for people to circumvent the system and have other people buy for them but I think that it would at least help to limit some of the violence/profanity in the stands. There have been too many instances involving alcohol in the stands that have actually affected the game on the field/court to not do something about it. Maybe there should be sections where alcohol isnt allowed so that parents feel safe bringing their kids to games. Has this option been explored?

Tennis should definitely switch to the spot cam...it would take 3.2 seconds longer.

Hockey should get rid of the shootout and penalties should be subject to review--especially when it involves fighting. Once again, assessing the situation correctly and justly is more important than the relatively small amount of time the reviews would take. Maybe they could take the time that people are sitting around catching breathers during the review out of the time in between periods to compensate? Probably would never happen.

This rule doesn't involve sports on the field but I just think that Phil Mushnick shouldnt be allowed to write anymore. For those of you who have had the pleasure of never having to read one of his columns and would like to put yourself in a bad mood, head on over to nypost.com. It takes about 30 seconds to register and its free. Essentially, his job is to watch sports on tv and complain about the coverage. All of us have our problems with announcers and the coverage in general but his problems are always obscure and he never has anything positive to say. At some point I will dissect one of his columns on this forum, exposing all of his hipocrasies and obnoxious quirks.

[ActorInThisPlay]

It's supposed to be illegal for offensive linemen to do, at least. Eric Williams rule.
yeah but i'm talking about like when a RB has the ball and in order to stop the defender from tackling him, he pulls and twists his facemask. it doesn't happen a whole lot but i have seen it happen enough and it looks just as bad as when a defensive player does it.

[lesto17]

yeah but i'm talking about like when a RB has the ball and in order to stop the defender from tackling him, he pulls and twists his facemask. it doesn't happen a whole lot but i have seen it happen enough and it looks just as bad as when a defensive player does it.


They aren't supposed to be allowed to pull or twist, just stiff arm. I have seen what you are talking about go uncalled, but it really isnt supposed to.

[ActorInThisPlay]

They aren't supposed to be allowed to pull or twist, just stiff arm. I have seen what you are talking about go uncalled, but it really isnt supposed to.
ok so it is "against the rules" to do that then. they need to enforce it then because it isn't fair for the defense trying to tackle the player. facemasks should be off limits to everyone at all times in my opinion, or they are ok for everyone to use but not how it is now.

[Frank Giaramita]

Last I checked both teams are on the field during OT and both teams can score on any play.
So you're telling me a team on defense has the same odds of scoring as a team on offense? I'm talking about making overtime fair and EVEN for both teams, which means both teams should have EVEN chances to score, not an advantage for the team that wins the toss. VERY rarely (if at all) do you see a team win the toss in NFL overtime and choose to defer... there's obviously a reason for that.

the team that gets the ball first doesn't always score first. defense needs to play with their backs against the wall to get their team the ball back.


That's exactly my point, in a fair and even OT system a team wouldn't have their "backs against the wall" right off the bat and before the whistle even blows. Both teams should have equal chances to score on their opponent.

[YourLatestVicti]

So you're telling me a team on defense has the same odds of scoring as a team on offense? I'm talking about making overtime fair and EVEN for both teams, which means both teams should have EVEN odds and chances to score, not an advantage for the team that wins the toss. VERY rarely (if at all) do you see a team win the toss in NFL overtime and choose to defer... there's obvouisly a reason for that.



That's exactly my point, in a fair and even OT system a team wouldn't have their "backs against the wall" right off the bat... and before the whistle even blows. Both teams should have equal chances to even the score.
I don't know the exact percentage but team's that win the coin toss(and take the ball) win just over 50% of the time. Getting the ball first doesn't mean anything, you still need to drive down the field and score.

[itsjdiggity]

What does everyone think about winning by 4? I like the fact that if a team wants to get a field goal, the other offense can score a TD and win from there. In a field goal sense, it gets twice as hard because they have to drive down the field twice.

[lesto17]

ok so it is "against the rules" to do that then. they need to enforce it then because it isn't fair for the defense trying to tackle the player. facemasks should be off limits to everyone at all times in my opinion, or they are ok for everyone to use but not how it is now.


I agree, but its not really a rule that needs to be changed. It just needs to be enforced.

[FondestMemory]

That's exactly my point, in a fair and even OT system a team wouldn't have their "backs against the wall" right off the bat and before the whistle even blows. Both teams should have equal chances to score on their opponent.

but the game is on the line. i like the idea of having to step it up for your team to win.

i really really like sudden death. i completely despise the college system.

the only real way i could see nfl overtime pleasing everybody is if it went to like an 8 minute quarter for the first overtime, with a coin flip deciding possesion to start. play it like a regular quarter. then if it's still tied, play a 7 minute sudden death overtime, with the team having possesion at the end of the first overtime receiving the kickoff to begin the period.

i don't see that ever happening. but that's one of the few ways that would even come close to pleasing both sides of the argument.

[sweethypocrisy]

but the game is on the line. i like the idea of having to step it up for your team to win.

i really really like sudden death. i completely despise the college system.

the only real way i could see nfl overtime pleasing everybody is if it went to like an 8 minute quarter for the first overtime, with a coin flip deciding possesion to start. play it like a regular quarter. then if it's still tied, play a 7 minute sudden death overtime, with the team having possesion at the end of the first overtime receiving the kickoff to begin the period.

i don't see that ever happening. but that's one of the few ways that would even come close to pleasing both sides of the argument.
you still have to step it up in college OT. hold em to a field goal or force a fumble or intercept a pass. your logic is flawed.

[FondestMemory]

you still have to step it up in college OT. hold em to a field goal or force a fumble or intercept a pass. your logic is flawed.

my logic is flawed? i hate the college system. i thought that was more of an opinion than logic.

i wouldn't mind the college way if they back them up to their own 40, making them go 60 for a touchdown. starting them practically in field goal range is ridiculous to me.