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G-Unit

01/29/06, 04:31 PM

yo preppyak lets do top 25 predictions again, it was fun. anyone else who wants a stab at it, post your top 25 here. Last Weeks ESPN/USA Today Coaches Poll:

Uconn
Duke
Memphis
Florida
Texas
Nova
Gonzaga
Illinois
Washington
Pitt
Indiana
MSU
WVU
NC State
GW
OSU
UCLA
BC
Maryland
Tennessee
Wisco
OU
Louisville
Cuse
UNC

FOBPrettyNPunk

01/29/06, 04:36 PM

I think Indiana is going to drop a lot, they lost terribly today

G-Unit

01/29/06, 05:04 PM

1. Uconn
2. Duke
3. Memphis
4. Nova
5. Florida
6. Gonzaga
7. Illinois
8. Texas
9. Pitt
10. GW
11. UCLA
12. MSU
13. WVU
14. Oklahoma
15. BC
16. NC State
17. Tennessee
18. Washington
19. OSU
20. Indiana
21. Maryland
22. Michigan
23. Georgetown
24. Colorado
25. Wisco

LeftWideOpen

01/29/06, 05:38 PM

1.UCONN
2. Duke
3. Memphis
4. Villanova
5. Gonzaga
6. Illinois
7. Texas
8. Florida
9. Pittsburgh
10. George Washington
11. Michigan St.
12. West Virginia
13. UCLA
14. BC
15. NC State
16. Tennesee
17. Washington
18. Indiana
19. Oklahoma
20. Ohio State
21. Michigan
22. Maryland
23. Georgetown
24. Northern Iowa
25. Colorado

Clarett'sGreyGoose

01/29/06, 05:46 PM

Syracuse is out for sure.

Indiana will drop to the 21-25 range.

If UNC could have won at BC this week, they'd be back in, but with only a win at Arizona to show for, I don't think they'll crack the top 25 this week.

preppyak

01/29/06, 05:54 PM

1. Uconn (20)
2. Duke (10)
3. Memphis (1)
4. Nova
5. Gonzaga
6. Illinois
7. Texas
8. Florida
9. Pitt
10. GW
11. MSU
12. BC
13. WVU
14. UCLA
15. Washington
16. OSU
17. NC State
18. Tennessee
19. OU
20. Indiana
21. Maryland
22. Georgetown
23. Michigan
24. Colorado
25. Northern Iowa

Yeah, Wisco drops out, Indiana gets hit big, and MSU drops as well. Aside from the entrance of Michigan to the poll, not the best Big 10 week. UNC, is out, Georgetown, who is on fire, is in.

Wasington, with two not good losses this week gets Indiana'd in my version, though the lack of east coast TV coverage (stupid figure skating) may not show it as such. Yes, I do have them behind UCLA, but who knows how that swings.

If Xavier had not lost, they would be in the Top 25 this week. UConn holds their #1, and that random vote for Texas they pick up.

Texas doesn't drop too far, since Washington lost and Pitt wasn't really impressive at all, as well as a lot of other Top 10-15 losses. GW jumps to 10th, but that should be easy to see. WVU with their loss to Marshall takes a hit, but again, disparity via losses doesn't drop them far. I basically see it being a shuffle week, though 3 teams enter the poll in the back.

I may edit this later, since BC and Washington still have to play.

Already edited it once, I forgot Georgetown originally. Also, Florida has to drop with that SC loss. Finally, Washington loses again, they drop more. My picks are done now, now I watch them be wrong.

G-Unit

01/29/06, 05:59 PM

yea edits are legit up until rankings are released

preppyak

01/29/06, 06:01 PM

1.UCONN
2. Duke
3. Memphis
5. Villanova
6. Gonzaga
7. Illinois
8. Texas
9. Pittsburgh

We got the same Top 10 almost, plus about 18-20 of our picks are similiar, I like the way you think. Note that Florida lost to SC though, they will drop

Only thing I have is that Washington lost to Cal close, and I see them struggling with Stanford though winning, while GW has been excellent, thus I have them jumping up. Also, all the other teams taht were 10-15 lost closer games, except Indiana, while BC won their game, so thats why BC jumps a little more.

Also, Wisco was already 23, and with their loss, they almost have to drop out

preppyak

01/29/06, 06:04 PM

Here's an interesting question, whats the highest a team that was previously unranked has started, because Georgetown could legitimately jump over Indiana and Maryland in my poll, starting them at 19, which has to be a pretty big jump

LeftWideOpen

01/29/06, 07:44 PM

We got the same Top 10 almost, plus about 18-20 of our picks are similiar, I like the way you think. Note that Florida lost to SC though, they will drop

Only thing I have is that Washington lost to Cal close, and I see them struggling with Stanford though winning, while GW has been excellent, thus I have them jumping up. Also, all the other teams taht were 10-15 lost closer games, except Indiana, while BC won their game, so thats why BC jumps a little more.

Also, Wisco was already 23, and with their loss, they almost have to drop out

yeahhh the Florida loss totally slipped my mind. I edited my rankings. I hope you are right about BC too.

bigleague9

01/29/06, 07:50 PM

I hate to say it but Wisconsin is out of the top 25 and very likely won't be back. They may even struggle to make the ncaa tourney with the losses of Steimsma and Landry. This raises another question: whos fault is it when a player flunks out and why?

In my opinion, the university and player share equal responsibility. In Stiemsma's case he was suffering from depression which is a legitimate medical condition that he took a leave of absence from the team for. On the other hand, he is from Wisconsin so the homesickness that plagues a lot of these athletes was not an issue and there really should have been close friends who prevented his ineligibility.

preppyak

01/29/06, 08:07 PM

This raises another question: whos fault is it when a player flunks out and why?
I'm not speaking specifically to the Wisconsin case, because that is definitelly not the norm. But, the phrase student-athlete is their for a reason.

I guarantee that every player is given access to tutors in everything, they have probably more access to academic help than anyone on their respective campuses. I mean, Alex Smith would have been a grad student if he had not left for the draft, and the ohio state QB (Krenzel) had a 3.8 in molecular biology. I know they are rare cases, but the same mentality that allows them to focus on their sport should carry over into their studies. I'm not naive, I'm well aware that many players are in their school because they are athletes, not because they are the college's main choice to attend the university, but by getting a full ride, they accept the burden that comes with a free education and the spotlight from national press.

You'll find often that the best players also have intelligence to match their athleticism...so failing falls at least 75% on the student. The coach and teachers can be blamed for the rest if you wish, but a majority goes to the student

preppyak

01/29/06, 08:08 PM

yeahhh the Florida loss totally slipped my mind. I edited my rankings. I hope you are right about BC too.
ha, it slipped mine too, but when i saw they had two losses, it triggered my mind.

And even though BC won narrowly, all the teams above them not named GW lost a game this week, so I feel they deserve to move up to that spot. If Washington loses, they move up even more, they could border on the Top 10.

Scott Weber

01/29/06, 09:07 PM

....... washington.....

fucking chris hernandez. that was NOT a foul. you just don't call that with a buzzer shot, you just don't.

oh well. washington is overrated anyways right now. they deserve to be about 22nd after this week.

preppyak

01/29/06, 09:11 PM

oh well. washington is overrated anyways right now. they deserve to be about 22nd after this week.
I would agree, but their are about 6 other teams that deserve it more than them, Indiana showing it the most this week.

When I see the foul on Sportscenter tomorrow, I'll see about what you said. I know that Notre Dame foul was sketchy a week or so back, where they turned the 4 point play to send it into OT.

And after further review, that was a weak call to make. If that happens with 10 to go in the first, I probably don't complain as much, but still, not a good call.

Scott Weber

01/29/06, 11:58 PM

I would agree, but their are about 6 other teams that deserve it more than them, Indiana showing it the most this week.

When I see the foul on Sportscenter tomorrow, I'll see about what you said. I know that Notre Dame foul was sketchy a week or so back, where they turned the 4 point play to send it into OT.

And after further review, that was a weak call to make. If that happens with 10 to go in the first, I probably don't complain as much, but still, not a good call.
Plus, the guy at halfcourt totally traveled AND had a backcourt violation before passing it to Hernadez. I'm so pissed.

somethingyellow

01/30/06, 12:02 AM

Plus, the guy at halfcourt totally traveled AND had a backcourt violation before passing it to Hernadez. I'm so pissed.that was a tough loss

preppyak

01/30/06, 08:26 AM

Plus, the guy at halfcourt totally traveled AND had a backcourt violation before passing it to Hernadez. I'm so pissed.
yep, saw that this morning. The trifecta of poor calls, but to be that naysaying voice, UW should probably have put Stanford away early in the 2nd half.

ImpulZe

01/30/06, 09:03 AM

Uconn
Duke
Memphis
Florida
Texas
Nova
Gonzaga
Illinois
Washington
Pitt
MSU
WVU
NC State
GW
Indiana
OSU
UCLA
BC
Maryland
Tennessee
OU
Louisville
Wisco
Cuse
UNC

Scott Weber

01/30/06, 09:08 AM

haha somebody didn't see that washington lost twice this week...

LeftWideOpen

01/30/06, 09:30 AM

haha somebody didn't see that washington lost twice this week...

yeah or that syracuse is on a 4 game losing streak.
or that florida lost
or that texas lost
or that about 5 teams in front of George Washington lost

haha, okay im done. sorry for being an ass.

preppyak

01/30/06, 10:25 AM

yeah or that syracuse is on a 4 game losing streak.
or that florida lost
or that texas lost
or that about 5 teams in front of George Washington lost

haha, okay im done. sorry for being correct.
fixed

LeftWideOpen

01/30/06, 11:58 AM

Scott Weber

01/30/06, 12:05 PM

Wow, Washington only dropped to 15? The voters must have a lot of faith in their talent/potential (which is big, they're just not performing)

GoWaitInTheCar

01/30/06, 12:09 PM

LeftWideOpen

01/30/06, 12:11 PM

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised the voters put Washington over NC State, especially by 2 spots.

N.C State - 16-4, 5-2 in the ACC, 2nd place. 3 losses on the road to ranked teams.
Washington - 16-4, 5-4 in the Pac-10, tied for 5th. All four losses to unranked teams, 2 of them at home.

Washington is getting a bit of a free pass it looks like because of the quick start and win against Gonzaga.

LeftWideOpen

01/30/06, 12:11 PM

1.UCONN
2. Duke
3. Illinois
4. Memphis
5. Villanova
6. Gonzaga
7. Texas
8. Florida
9. Pittsburgh
10. George Washington
11. West Virginia
12. Michigan St.
13. UCLA
14. BC
15. NC State
16. Tennesee
17. Washington
18. Oklahoma
19. Ohio State
20. Michigan
21. Indiana
22. Maryland
23. Georgetown
24. Northern Iowa
25. Kentucky

Thoughts and opinions please.

(look 2 posts above yours) ;)

Colorado is #25, too.

GoWaitInTheCar

01/30/06, 12:12 PM

1.UCONN
2. Duke
3. Illinois
4. Memphis
5. Villanova
6. Gonzaga
7. Texas
8. Florida
9. Pittsburgh
10. George Washington
11. West Virginia
12. Michigan St.
13. UCLA
14. BC
15. NC State
16. Tennesee
17. Washington
18. Oklahoma
19. Ohio State
20. Michigan
21. Indiana
22. Maryland
23. Georgetown
24. Northern Iowa
25. Kentucky

Thoughts and opinions please.

Yes I know that the official Top 25 has already been posted. But I believe this is how it should look. I still think Washington is a good team. What about Kentucky? They'll break top 20 by the end of the year.

preppyak

01/30/06, 12:17 PM

Here's the actual top 25

1. Connecticut (20) 18-1 758
2. Duke (10) 19-1 751
3. Memphis (1) 19-2 711
4. Villanova 15-2 657
5. Gonzaga 17-3 615
6. Illinois 19-2 610
7. Florida 18-2 582
8. Texas 17-3 577
9. Pittsburgh 17-1 559
10. George Washington 16-1 450
11. West Virginia 15-4 401
12. Michigan State 16-5 397
13. UCLA 17-4 345
14. Boston College 16-4 325
15. Washington 16-4 310
16. Tennessee 14-3 300
17. N.C. State 16-4 274
18. Oklahoma 13-4 267
19. Ohio State 14-3 245
20. Michigan 15-3 177
21. Indiana 12-5 171
22. Georgetown 14-4 140
23. Maryland 14-5 91
24. Northern Iowa 19-3 57
25. Colorado 15-3 54

Got about half right. Most of what I got wrong were two teams in a row (Texas/Florida, WVU/Mich St, Georgetown/Maryland).

I'm a little surprised Washington only dropped to #15 and that Indiana fell so far.
Washington dropping to 15 is what I had, but Indian to 21 is too far, especially with Michigan jumping so high. I think Georgetown's wins were more impressive over the last 2 weeks (Duke most of all). Also, I don't agree with Northern Iowa over Colorado, especially since last week the votes were set with Colorado getting more, and neither had particularly stunning wins this week..

And yeah, my order was correct for about 18-19 of them, but since WVU didn't drop much, and Tennesse jumped up, it put me in wierd spots.

Good to see 3 Big 12 teams in the top 25 again. With another tumultuous week, Kansas might even be able to hop in (they play OU this Sunday)

preppyak

01/30/06, 12:23 PM

Yes I know that the official Top 25 has already been posted. But I believe this is how it should look. I still think Washington is a good team. What about Kentucky? They'll break top 20 by the end of the year.
Kentucky didn't even deserve a vote in the top 25 until this week, let alone be in it. They might end up in the top 25, but it's gonna be a rough road. They have to play Florida within 5 or so points on the road and beat Tennessee at home to make a legit case at being in the NCAA's (remember, they have a few tough losses to overcome from their mid-season). Then, they should probably beat Florida at home to wrap up their season right and guarantee a bid, either that or shine in the conference tourney.

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised the voters put Washington over NC State, especially by 2 spots.

N.C State - 16-4, 5-2 in the ACC, 2nd place. 3 losses on the road to ranked teams.
Washington - 16-4, 5-4 in the Pac-10, tied for 5th. All four losses to unranked teams, 2 of them at home.

Washington is getting a bit of a free pass it looks like because of the quick start and win against Gonzaga.

Yeah, well don't always count on the voters to make sense. NC State also got murdered at home by Seton Hall this week, so no voter could think they deserved much of a high spot. When the tournament seeds come out, I think NC State will get a higher seed, but they may end up lower in the Top 25, since the Top 25 is based week-to-week, not on a year long overview