The fact that the Super Bowl Media Coverge is winning that ESPN Poll...

[mikeford]

over the fucking STATE OF THE UNION makes me hate America just a little bit more.

the only states the state of the union is beating super bowl media day coverage (GAG) are fuckin alaska and hawaii.

like, jesus christ. are you serious? we dont get enough of this crap on the actual DAY of the superbowl? granted this is a poll on a ESPN, a sports site, but come on. I didnt watch anything involving media day for the past 2 years when MY team was in the superbowl... America admittedly doesn't really care about either of these teams as a whole, yet they'd rather listen to the same trite every other athlete spouts out at the Super Bowl Media Day over something the PRESIDENT has to say?

my brain hurts.

[mat1419]

over the fucking STATE OF THE UNION makes me hate America just a little bit more.

the only states the state of the union is beating super bowl media day coverage (GAG) are fuckin alaska and hawaii.

like, jesus christ. are you serious? we dont get enough of this crap on the actual DAY of the superbowl? granted this is a poll on a ESPN, a sports site, but come on. I didnt watch anything involving media day for the past 2 years when MY team was in the superbowl... America admittedly doesn't really care about either of these teams as a whole, yet they'd rather listen to the same trite every other athlete spouts out at the Super Bowl Media Day over something the PRESIDENT has to say?

my brain hurts.
you know who our president is right?

[fromwithin]

you know who our president is right?

GIT 'R DONE!

[mikeford]

you do realize this is the most devisive(sp?) time in American politics since the Civil Rights movement and Vietnam right? I mean you do realize that whether you agree with Bush or not that this is important right? That decisions that idiot and his party are making WILL affect you and your life in the future. His ridiculous social security program is just one of these types of things. I'd say this is A LITTLE more important than Super Bowl MEDIA DAY.

also, i've got money that says still_life supports Bush.

[fromwithin]

also, i've got money that says still_life supports Bush.

A Bush supporter and Steeler fan :SHUDDERS:

[CallMeChief]

THe Bush supporter in me says, "People love complaining about what a terrible leader/person he is, but don't know a god damn thing about him, his policies, or the state of America, namely because they'd rather here 40 minutes stories about how jerome bettis is from detroit than get information on the war, the economy, etc. Let's reevaluate our priorities before we accuse Bush of having his priorities messed up."

But that's just the Bush supporter in me...

[mikeford]

the bush supporter in you eh? without turning this forum into a political debate, what do you have to say about the fact that Bush singlehandedly turned a 300 billion dollar SURPLUS into the most DEBT this country has ever been in (surpassing the previous amount compiled by Reagan and Bush senior.)

[CallMeChief]

the bush supporter in you eh? without turning this forum into a political debate, what do you have to say about the fact that Bush singlehandedly turned a 300 billion dollar SURPLUS into the most DEBT this country has ever been in (surpassing the previous amount compiled by Reagan and Bush senior.)

ive always firmly believed the deficit is just a number and that politics is just a formality and is needed to help the country stop from going crazy. the deficit is actually an argument i hate hearing from people, because there's so much better material to complain about with Bush. I did research on the deficit and what exactly it is and how it works for a speech i had to make in my satire class last year, and most interestingly, no matter where i looked no one had a consistent definition for the deficit. I can't imagine whatever the source of this unaccounted for money coming to us and demanding it, and as wrong as it may be that we use our intimidation to get out of things, i mean, hey, whatever works. But, i prefer Clinton over Bush, and i'm not so sure the "deficit" (assume, for a moment, it isn't just a mirage created by the liberal media to add fodder to the Bush fire people love to light) is so much reflecting Bush's incompetence as Clinton's brilliance. You'd be surprised to see the list of liberal presidents who had an enormous deficit, and yes, the number may surpass past amounts, but you have to take into account relative to the worth of a dollar now. now here, in NJ, i personally say fuck the deficit, because we're now going to get taxed on gas and clothes and are going to have our property taxes raised to cover this deficit. with or without the deficit, i see no change, that is until someone comes in and raises taxes to combat it.

[mikeford]

haha. how ironic. your final comment calls for a raise in taxes.

good luck getting that with bush since hes the only president in history to cut taxes during a war. his answer to everything thus far has been to cut taxes.

also, if i hear the words "liberal media" one more time, my brain is going to explode.

[Johnny_G]

the bush supporter in you eh? without turning this forum into a political debate, what do you have to say about the fact that Bush singlehandedly turned a 300 billion dollar SURPLUS into the most DEBT this country has ever been in (surpassing the previous amount compiled by Reagan and Bush senior.)

It's called a recession, and spending money is a requirement to get out of the hole. Say what you want, but Bush pushed the country out of recession pretty damn quickly if you ask me. The economy is finally stable after tumbling the past few years. Combine that with an ongoing war and it's pretty easy to see why there's such a deficit. After the wars over, things will calm down and most likely start heading back in the other direction.

[mikeford]

yeah after the war.

i thought the war ended? wasnt there a speech on an aircraft carrier with a mission accomplished banner? or was that an acid flashback i was having? couldnt be.

[Johnny_G]

/end political debate.

There's a forum for this, take it up there.

[Johnny_G]

yeah after the war.

i thought the war ended? wasnt there a speech on an aircraft carrier with a mission accomplished banner? or was that an acid flashback i was having? couldnt be.

Just vote Hilary '08 and leave the politics out of the fuckin sports forum.

The end.

[weezer182]

yeah after the war.

i thought the war ended? wasnt there a speech on an aircraft carrier with a mission accomplished banner? or was that an acid flashback i was having? couldnt be.im beginning to like you more and more haha

[NetNerdsRevenge]

The Deficit was created by many different events during the Bush term, two of them being the oh so common recession and 9/11. However, the fact that Americans own most of the debt makes it less of a problem. If it was mostly foreign owned debt, we would be in a lot more trouble.

but what does this have to do with sports? I guess we could argue the business side of sports.....

[histrionics22]

over the fucking STATE OF THE UNION makes me hate America just a little bit more.

the only states the state of the union is beating super bowl media day coverage (GAG) are fuckin alaska and hawaii.

like, jesus christ. are you serious? we dont get enough of this crap on the actual DAY of the superbowl? granted this is a poll on a ESPN, a sports site, but come on. I didnt watch anything involving media day for the past 2 years when MY team was in the superbowl... America admittedly doesn't really care about either of these teams as a whole, yet they'd rather listen to the same trite every other athlete spouts out at the Super Bowl Media Day over something the PRESIDENT has to say?

my brain hurts.

I'm tired of all the complaints about the media.

[mat1419]

leave the politics out of the fuckin sports forum.

The end.
exactly...get this shit out of the sports forum.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

someone lock the thread.

[mikeford]

Just vote Hilary '08

i just puked in my mouth.

id rather vote for Bush again.

[CallMeChief]

ive never set foot in the politics forum, i have a feeling theres an overwhelming number of uninformed liberal people who love to voice their opinions and drive with the political traffic that overshadow the liberal people who genuinely know what they're talking about and have a valid opinion. i love getting into debates with people who actually know what they're talking about.

[mikeford]

but what does this have to do with sports? I guess we could argue the business side of sports.....

well the original point of the thread was apparently people would rather watch athletes spout rehearsed garbage at MEDIA DAY than listen to the friggin President talk about the state of the country and where its supposedly headed for 2006

[mikeford]

ive never set foot in the politics forum, i have a feeling theres an overwhelming number of uninformed liberal people who love to voice their opinions and drive with the political traffic that overshadow the liberal people who genuinely know what they're talking about and have a valid opinion. i love getting into debates with people who actually know what they're talking about.

cosigned, as a liberal.

[CallMeChief]

someone lock the thread.

back to sports:
David Stern for president.

[mikeford]

back to sports:
David Stern for president.
no way, he'd ban rap music.

Gary Betteman will take the hard stance the country needs.

[CallMeChief]

no way, he'd ban rap music.

Gary Betteman will take the hard stance the country needs.

I'd say Bud Selig for president, but since the war is going on for a while he'd say our troops are tired, lets call it a tie, and pull out too fast.

[weezer182]

i just puked in my mouth.

id rather vote for Bush again. :'(

[mikeford]

I'd say Bud Selig for president, but since the war is going on for a while he'd say our troops are tired, lets call it a tie, and pull out too fast.

count it.

[mikeford]

:'(

i'd like ammend my "vote for bush again" staqtement by saying, i never actually voted for bush... i voted curt schilling in 04. (im not kidding. im from MA my vote in a presidential election where the other guy is from MA is worthless)

[CallMeChief]

count it.

yea, thats right, i just compared the war in Iraq to the MLB All-Star game. now that is a sweet accomplishment.

[mikeford]

yea, thats right, i just compared the war in Iraq to the MLB All-Star game. now that is a sweet accomplishment.

well, they are both pointless....

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Why the hell would you vote bud in? I dont think "interleague" play would go over well in our society.

[Trainsaw]

ive always firmly believed the deficit is just a number and that politics is just a formality and is needed to help the country stop from going crazy. the deficit is actually an argument i hate hearing from people, because there's so much better material to complain about with Bush. I did research on the deficit and what exactly it is and how it works for a speech i had to make in my satire class last year, and most interestingly, no matter where i looked no one had a consistent definition for the deficit. I can't imagine whatever the source of this unaccounted for money coming to us and demanding it, and as wrong as it may be that we use our intimidation to get out of things, i mean, hey, whatever works. But, i prefer Clinton over Bush, and i'm not so sure the "deficit" (assume, for a moment, it isn't just a mirage created by the liberal media to add fodder to the Bush fire people love to light) is so much reflecting Bush's incompetence as Clinton's brilliance. You'd be surprised to see the list of liberal presidents who had an enormous deficit, and yes, the number may surpass past amounts, but you have to take into account relative to the worth of a dollar now. now here, in NJ, i personally say fuck the deficit, because we're now going to get taxed on gas and clothes and are going to have our property taxes raised to cover this deficit. with or without the deficit, i see no change, that is until someone comes in and raises taxes to combat it.

you're retarded take an economics class, and they'll let you know a deficit is more than just an insiginificant number


-an economics major

[mikeford]

take an economics class, and they'll let you know a deficit is more than just an insiginificant number


-an economics major

expanding on that might help our (your) position a little more than just calling him "retarded".

[CallMeChief]

you're retarded take an economics class, and they'll let you know a deficit is more than just an insiginificant number


-an economics major

Okay and you're retarded, (<----comma) take an english class (<----no comma) and they'll let you know a sentence is more than just an undeveloped brain child

-An English Major

so i guess we're even, neither of us are experts in the others field, and you've provided me with no decisive evidence defending your point of view.

[CallMeChief]

expanding on that might help our (your) position a little more than just calling him "retarded".

thank you, you're by far my favorite liberal red sox fan

[mikeford]

i do what i can.

[still_life]

you do realize this is the most devisive(sp?) time in American politics since the Civil Rights movement and Vietnam right? I mean you do realize that whether you agree with Bush or not that this is important right? That decisions that idiot and his party are making WILL affect you and your life in the future. His ridiculous social security program is just one of these types of things. I'd say this is A LITTLE more important than Super Bowl MEDIA DAY.

also, i've got money that says still_life supports Bush.

You better not be a betting man, because I voted for Kerry, and I would rather watch a preseason game between Houston and San Francisco than watch Bush give a speech.

[mikeford]

You better not be a betting man, because I voted for Kerry, and I would rather watch a preseason game between Houston and San Francisco than watch Bush give a speech.

games, even if they are preseason, are NOT in the same league as MEDIA DAY.

[still_life]

games, even if they are preseason, are NOT in the same league as MEDIA DAY.

I really don't care for media day, but I'll probably still watch more of that on NFL network than Bush today. I probably won't even watch TV tonight.

[FondestMemory]

agreed. i have no interest in watching the speech tonight.

[imirish06]

you know who our president is right?

word

[Scott Weber]

enough. locked. take this to the politics forum next time.