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still_life
02/05/06, 10:56 PM
The last few SB losers have had a rough season after the loss.

- Alexander will probably be gone, though I don't think that will have a huge impact
- I don't know who else is a free agent for this team
- The Rams should be better with a healthy Bulger, San Fran needs to start improving, and Arizona will probably be a trendy pick again, especially if they get a RB. The division will be better than the last two years
- The conference will improve too, as Chicago has a defense and the offense should get better. Carolina will be a factor again. The NFC East is still pretty loaded. If Culpepper is healthy for Minnesota, they're a threat.

What do you think, a 7-9 team next year?

mikeford
02/05/06, 11:02 PM
with a harder schedule and no SA... theyre probably boned.

still_life
02/05/06, 11:10 PM
with a harder schedule and no SA... theyre probably boned.

They have to go to Chicago, Denver, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, and they host Minnesota, San Diego, and the Giants. Could be tough.

Brownpants06
02/05/06, 11:13 PM
They'll still make it to conference finals. Stevens needs to practice catching and were really outplaying the steelers in the first quarter. Hasselbeck is still a great QB and played pretty well with some nice runs, some really nice throws and a few mistakes here and there. He went somthing like 25-50 where Big Ben went 9-26ish. Alexander was almost a non-factor in the SB and they still showed they can throw, just not catch. A few unlucky calls and some missed feild goals can all be improved for next year and probably a good season.

However, for next years superbowl, I'd probably call indy or the pats.

still_life
02/05/06, 11:15 PM
Conference finals? I think that's stretching it a bit, unless you think the Seahawks could be as dominant as the 00-04 Eagles. I don't think they're that good of a team. Without Alexander, they'll struggle a bit more on offense. You could say they threw it tonight, but they only scored 10 points. Points seem to come from Alexander with this offense, not Hasselbeck.

Ben 9/21
Matt 26/49

Trainsaw
02/05/06, 11:19 PM
probably

bigmike
02/05/06, 11:23 PM
i don't know about 7-9 but i wouldn't be surprised because of how the NFL works. teams get better at a faster rate. maybe they have a bad year next year but more so because other teams just got better rather then the seahawks taking a step back.

NetNerdsRevenge
02/06/06, 12:23 AM
10-6 and a wild card.

EDIT: 10-6 in the NFC West is pretty damn good. I say they win the West, but lose in the second round.

Scott Weber
02/06/06, 12:28 AM
I say 11-5 if they bring everyone back. They won't have as easy of a schedule, but there are plenty of great young players on this team, especially the defense, which will be back. Though they may lose a few people, that defense (especially the LB core) will come back better than ever.

xearlynovemberx
02/06/06, 12:34 AM
They have to go to Chicago, Denver, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, and they host Minnesota, San Diego, and the Giants. Could be tough.

when are the 06-07 scheds released?

Clarett'sGreyGoose
02/06/06, 04:37 AM
Why are you so sure Alexander will be gone?

If it comes down to it, they can franchise him again.

As for other "marquee" free agents, LG Steve Hutchinson (Pro Bowler) is a FA. and that's all I know for sure.

justinevans
02/06/06, 07:26 AM
there is a good chance Edge & Culpepper are going to Arizona.

sundaysetsashes
02/06/06, 07:29 AM
when are the 06-07 scheds released?

they arent out yet but each teams schedule of teams they have to play are on their website. i think they have list up to 2010

justinevans
02/06/06, 07:58 AM
they arent out yet but each teams schedule of teams they have to play are on their website. i think they have list up to 2010

yeah it is pretty easy. they play 6 games against the division. 4 against the 1 afc division. 4 against an nfc division. 2 against teams that finished in the same place in the other division.

For example the Eagles play their division. The AFC South. The NFC South. Green Bay and San Fran.

xearlynovemberx
02/06/06, 11:24 AM
yeah it is pretty easy. they play 6 games against the division. 4 against the 1 afc division. 4 against an nfc division. 2 against teams that finished in the same place in the other division.

For example the Eagles play their division. The AFC South. The NFC South. Green Bay and San Fran.makes sense

histrionics22
02/06/06, 01:10 PM
when are the 06-07 scheds released?

I saw something that said Seatlle has the 2nd easiest sechdule next year going by this year's W-L records.

Scott Weber
02/06/06, 01:19 PM
I saw something that said Seatlle has the 2nd easiest sechdule next year going by this year's W-L records.
can't change the shitty division they play in.

histrionics22
02/06/06, 01:22 PM
can't change the shitty division they play in.

I know and they match up with a shitty division again next year. Its not their fault.

http://www.supernfl.com/NFL2006.html

Scott Weber
02/06/06, 01:36 PM
I know and they match up with a shitty division again next year. Its not their fault.

http://www.supernfl.com/NFL2006.html
it wasn't their fault this year either, yet it will once again be used against them all year long. le sigh.

histrionics22
02/06/06, 01:37 PM
it wasn't their fault this year either, yet it will once again be used against them all year long. le sigh.

Well you cant use it as a way of defending them. There were a lot of close calls for them this year.

bigmike
02/06/06, 01:38 PM
it wasn't their fault this year either, yet it will once again be used against them all year long. le sigh.
I understand people using it against them... i understand their reasoning. I just never have liked that whole 'you played in a bad division' argument. you can only beat who you're scheduled to beat. you don't control who you play, nor should you be punished or vilified for it.

Scott Weber
02/06/06, 01:45 PM
truth.

Salomonbz90
02/06/06, 01:49 PM
They played alot better than i thought they would..good game for sure.
Id love to see them come back next year and be 10-6 or better
good luck to them, good schedule next year

FreshyFresh23
02/06/06, 01:53 PM
theyll be fine..

The division is a lock, San Fran, Arizona and St Louis are not going to be contenders...

Seattle is going to be the same team, they have 15-16 million in cap room, more than enough to resign all the free agents, unless Minnesota wants to pay 8 million a season for Alexander.

They will probably lose Rocky Bernard, since a DT with 9 sacks will be overpaid for, the results of scheme though...

Seattle will gain some depth in the draft and might pick up a free agent or two.

Seattle can easily go 6-0 in the division.

Vikings, Packers, Bears and Lions all will be easily winnable games. Bears team is going to be in as much, if not more disarray than the Seahawks.

Tampa Bay will be a good game, but their strength (defense) might be weakened considerably this offseason.

IF you give seattle losses to KC, Denver, San Deigo and NY Giants (just for argument's sake) then they are 12-4.

I think they have a great chance to repeat as a number 1 seed in the NFC

Vincewithouthee
02/06/06, 02:05 PM
It's possible that they will, especially if Shaun Alexander is on the cover of Madden 2007.

bigmike
02/06/06, 02:11 PM
theyll be fine..

The division is a lock, San Fran, Arizona and St Louis are not going to be contenders...

Seattle is going to be the same team, they have 15-16 million in cap room, more than enough to resign all the free agents, unless Minnesota wants to pay 8 million a season for Alexander.

They will probably lose Rocky Bernard, since a DT with 9 sacks will be overpaid for, the results of scheme though...

Seattle will gain some depth in the draft and might pick up a free agent or two.

Seattle can easily go 6-0 in the division.

Vikings, Packers, Bears and Lions all will be easily winnable games. Bears team is going to be in as much, if not more disarray than the Seahawks.

Tampa Bay will be a good game, but their strength (defense) might be weakened considerably this offseason.

IF you give seattle losses to KC, Denver, San Deigo and NY Giants (just for argument's sake) then they are 12-4.

I think they have a great chance to repeat as a number 1 seed in the NFC

I don't know, the Lions could be tough next year. I mean, Marinelli did come in and teach our media how to tackle (i think he was recruiting). so you know, if we take another wideout in the first round, we'll be a stud team next year.

still_life
02/06/06, 08:12 PM
'00 NYG: 12-4 ... 7-9 in '01
'01 STL: 14-2 ... 7-9 in '02
'02 OAK: 11-5 ... 4-12 in '03
'03 CAR: 11-5 ... 7-9 in '04
'04 PHI: 13-3 ... 6-10 in '05
'05 SEA: 13-3 ...?

I was just guessing 7-9, so good to see that's been the most common record

Jesse2
02/06/06, 08:23 PM
'00 NYG: 12-4 ... 7-9 in '01
'01 STL: 14-2 ... 7-9 in '02
'02 OAK: 11-5 ... 4-12 in '03
'03 CAR: 11-5 ... 7-9 in '04
'04 PHI: 13-3 ... 6-10 in '05
'05 SEA: 13-3 ...?

I was just guessing 7-9, so good to see that's been the most common record

if seattle is 7-9 next year i'm going to get a tattoo that says " i heart still_life"

LeftWideOpen
02/06/06, 08:27 PM
'00 NYG: 12-4 ... 7-9 in '01
'01 STL: 14-2 ... 7-9 in '02
'02 OAK: 11-5 ... 4-12 in '03
'03 CAR: 11-5 ... 7-9 in '04
'04 PHI: 13-3 ... 6-10 in '05
'05 SEA: 13-3 ...?

I was just guessing 7-9, so good to see that's been the most common record

they won't be 7-9 because 5 wins in the division alone is almost a lock. St.Louis and Arizona aren't going to do anything until they improve the D, and San Fran can't do anything on offense. I say 9-7 at least, but more likely 10-6.

ThriftWhore
02/06/06, 08:33 PM
I think it's too hard for them to tank, with four games against really poor teams, and two against a mediocre team I think they'll atleast have 6 wins. Who else is gonna win the NFC West, honestly?

Maybe if the Rams actually give Stephen Jackson a chance, then they'll have a shot.

still_life
02/06/06, 08:36 PM
If Bulger can stay healthy and run that offense, the Rams are a dangerous team. The new coach will give the ball to Jackson more.

ThriftWhore
02/06/06, 08:37 PM
If Bulger can stay healthy and run that offense, the Rams are a dangerous team. The new coach will give the ball to Jackson more.
I think the Rams are the KC Cheifs of two seasons ago, incredible offense(look at all the playmakers. Bulger, Holt, Bruce, Jackson), but no defense to speak of.

still_life
02/06/06, 08:38 PM
Yeah and you could go 13-3 with that kind of team if the schedule is right. The Rams were 12-4 in 2003, and the defense still sucked. Don't sleep on them. They tanked in 02, but came right back in 03. I think they could do that again.

LeftWideOpen
02/06/06, 08:40 PM
If Bulger can stay healthy and run that offense, the Rams are a dangerous team. The new coach will give the ball to Jackson more.

The Rams are not a dangerous team unless they improve the defense. Bulger can throw for 4500 yards and they still won't be more than an 8-8 team because they'll be giving up 30 points a game.

ThriftWhore
02/06/06, 08:41 PM
Yeah and you could go 13-3 with that kind of team if the schedule is right. The Rams were 12-4 in 2003, and the defense still sucked. Don't sleep on them. They tanked in 02, but came right back in 03. I think they could do that again.
Trust me, I'm pulling for any team except Seattle. Never liked them. But like I said, that division has two teams that are a cakewalk, it will come down to head to head between Seattle and St. Louis, whomever can win both games during the season.

13-3 with the rams team? I dunno about that, that's a tall order. They could go 10-6, if lucky, with that team, or 11-5 AT THE VERY BEST, but i can't see them only losing 3 games. their defense is still just too weak.

still_life
02/06/06, 08:43 PM
The Rams are not a dangerous team unless they improve the defense. Bulger can throw for 4500 yards and they still won't be more than an 8-8 team because they'll be giving up 30 points a game.

But they could score 35 a lot of times, plus 8-8 was good enough for the playoffs for them in 04. You never know with a weak conference.

I don't think the Rams will be 13-3, but they should get 10 wins. I don't like the NFC West period, but if there's a team I'd root for in it, it's St. Louis.

ThriftWhore
02/06/06, 08:46 PM
But they could score 35 a lot of times, plus 8-8 was good enough for the playoffs for them in 04. You never know with a weak conference.
If they scored 35 every game, that's a different story. But when you make a team one-dimensional, eventually it will lead to turnovers.

It's all up in the air, as long as Scott Linehan gives Jackson the ball, the offense should be pretty balanced and will make for a good year. Their defense needs an upgrade though, and they didn't really do much with their changing of coaches, both Linehan and Martz are offensive minds.

Jesse2
02/06/06, 08:47 PM
But they could score 35 a lot of times, plus 8-8 was good enough for the playoffs for them in 04. You never know with a weak conference.

I don't think the Rams will be 13-3, but they should get 10 wins. I don't like the NFC West period, but if there's a team I'd root for in it, it's St. Louis.

the rams definitely might improve next year, but they have to play seattle twice, chicago, denver, kansas city, washington, san diego and carolina.

LeftWideOpen
02/06/06, 08:48 PM
But they could score 35 a lot of times, plus 8-8 was good enough for the playoffs for them in 04. You never know with a weak conference.

I don't think the Rams will be 13-3, but they should get 10 wins. I don't like the NFC West period, but if there's a team I'd root for in it, it's St. Louis.

yeah I'm not saying I'd root against them, I just don't think anyone in that division (including them) can catch Seattle next season. That Rams team that went 14-2 only gave up 17 points a game and they had Marshall Faulk and Kurt Warner playing out of their minds .. this isnt anything like that team. Plus they got games at Carolina and San Diego and KC, Denver, Washington, and Chicago on the schedule too.

still_life
02/06/06, 08:51 PM
yeah I'm not saying I'd root against them, I just don't think anyone in that division (including them) can catch Seattle next season. That Rams team that went 14-2 only gave up 17 points a game and they had Marshall Faulk and Kurt Warner playing out of their minds .. this isnt anything like that team. Plus they got games at Carolina and San Diego and KC, Denver, Washington, and Chicago on the schedule too.

I'm talking about the 2003 Rams that went 12-4 and took the eventual NFC champions to double overtime.

LeftWideOpen
02/06/06, 08:56 PM
I'm talking about the 2003 Rams that went 12-4 and took the eventual NFC champions to double overtime.

Even that team faired much better on defense though. I guess my point is that regardless of how much the offense improves, the D needs to make strides too if they want to win a division even as weak as the NFC West. I'd like to see it for entertainment sake, though. Anything that makes the NFC more exciting is alright with me.

still_life
02/06/06, 10:28 PM
Even that team faired much better on defense though. I guess my point is that regardless of how much the offense improves, the D needs to make strides too if they want to win a division even as weak as the NFC West. I'd like to see it for entertainment sake, though. Anything that makes the NFC more exciting is alright with me.

It was still the kind of mediocre/bad defense you'd expect on a 12-4 team that's all offense