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still_life
02/07/06, 03:22 PM
He's replacing Plummer, and I just don't get it

You had your original 3, then it branched out from injuries

Manning
Palmer - Brees - Plummer - McNair
Brady - Green

How he got it makes no damn sense to me. His team sucked, and he had 16 TDs to 11 INTs in 14 games. The most obvious snub of this whole Pro Bowl is now Roethlisberger. I'd be willing to bet the guy with the third highest passer rating in the league hasn't been snubbed out of the PB in a long time. And he has more TDs and less INTs than McNair, yet are they actually saying he's the 8th best AFC QB this year? It's just ridiculous to me.

I guess if McNair's injured they'll be asking Gus Frerotte next.
asianxcore
02/07/06, 03:25 PM
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Vincewithouthee
02/07/06, 03:33 PM
That's a fucking disgrace. Wow. Fuck the Pro Bowl, it sucks ass.
LeftWideOpen
02/07/06, 03:44 PM
I agreed with Plummer being included over Ben ..but this is crazy. McNair had nothing on him this year.
Drew Beringer
02/07/06, 03:53 PM
Who even watches the Pro Bowl?
Web250
02/07/06, 03:54 PM
Who even watches the Pro Bowl?
Not me.
hockey0001
02/07/06, 03:55 PM
the only reason i can think of for Ben not being in is because he was injured. But its still ridiculous
still_life
02/07/06, 03:55 PM
It's more about getting the honor than going for the game. The number of Pro Bowls matter a lot for HOF voting.
sweethypocrisy
02/07/06, 03:56 PM
i dont think ill be able to watch the pro bowl. and i dont really care now.
LeftWideOpen
02/07/06, 03:58 PM
It's more about getting the honor than going for the game. The number of Pro Bowls matter a lot for HOF voting.

in the long run though, that will be of lesser importance w/ a lot of stars backing out of the game for not much of a reason.
Jesse2
02/07/06, 04:05 PM
what the? was JP Losman busy?
LeftWideOpen
02/07/06, 04:06 PM
what the? was JP Losman busy?

yeah, he's getting psyched up for his NFL Europe season.

Not really, but thats where he belongs.
Drew Beringer
02/07/06, 04:07 PM
Big Ben just won the Super Bowl, I'm sure he doesn't give two fucks about the Pro Bowl, he is probably happy he finally has a week off.
Doug
02/07/06, 05:14 PM
are you sure ben didn't just say no?
bigmike
02/07/06, 05:28 PM
i'm sorry, for a second there, i almost thought that the pro bowl actually matters.
sweethypocrisy
02/07/06, 06:12 PM
i'm sorry, for a second there, i almost thought that the pro bowl actually matters.
hahahaha
itsjdiggity
02/07/06, 06:50 PM
i'm a huge Titans fan and even i'm suprised at this

oh well, go McNair
fromwithin
02/08/06, 08:16 AM
It's more about getting the honor than going for the game. The number of Pro Bowls matter a lot for HOF voting.

A little thing called stats factor into hall of fame voting more than pro bowls. And lets face it, regardless of his passer rating if Ben had around the same type of year he had this year with his whole career (not including Super Bowl), he wouldnt make it.

Big Ben just won the Super Bowl, I'm sure he doesn't give two fucks about the Pro Bowl, he is probably happy he finally has a week off.

So he can do more partying with ugly Pittsburgh girls WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
still_life
02/08/06, 09:28 PM
A little thing called stats factor into hall of fame voting more than pro bowls. And lets face it, regardless of his passer rating if Ben had around the same type of year he had this year with his whole career (not including Super Bowl), he wouldnt make it.

Wow that's one dumb argument.

You actually just tried saying the highest rated QB in NFL history wouldn't be put in the HOF.
still_life
02/08/06, 10:13 PM
And supposedly Sirius NFL radio said Ben declined the PB
itsjdiggity
02/08/06, 10:29 PM
And supposedly Sirius NFL radio said Ben declined the PB

that makes sense
still_life
02/08/06, 10:31 PM
Actually, I think I would have put Leftwich in over McNair in that case.
itsjdiggity
02/08/06, 10:37 PM
the Big Nigs
Doug
02/09/06, 08:48 AM
the Big Nigs

who's in your sig that's not tom brady?
fromwithin
02/09/06, 08:49 AM
Wow that's one dumb argument.

You actually just tried saying the highest rated QB in NFL history wouldn't be put in the HOF.

highest in NFL history?! please. he's played two years. whoop dee do. he's going to have at least one bad year in the future.
Doug
02/09/06, 08:52 AM
highest in NFL history?! please. he's played two years. whoop dee do. he's going to have at least one bad year in the future.

Uh... ok? So what? Players who have sub-par season still make the hall of fame (as recently evidenced by Warren Moon). I see Big Ben having a prosperous Hall of Fame career.
Scott Weber
02/09/06, 09:57 AM
wow, it is way too early to be talking about him in the hall of fame.
Talib Scottie
02/09/06, 01:09 PM
I love McNair but in all honesty he only had about three stellar seasons.
itsjdiggity
02/09/06, 01:27 PM
who's in your sig that's not tom brady?

Pacman Jones..haha
sweethypocrisy
02/09/06, 01:35 PM
highest in NFL history?! please. he's played two years. whoop dee do. he's going to have at least one bad year in the future.
he didnt say ben had the highest in nfl history.
Doug
02/09/06, 01:38 PM
Pacman Jones..haha

what's the correlation between pacman jones and tom brady?
itsjdiggity
02/09/06, 03:22 PM
what's the correlation between pacman jones and tom brady?

none really

but they day he picks him off is the day i party
spansen
02/09/06, 04:42 PM
He's replacing Plummer, and I just don't get it

You had your original 3, then it branched out from injuries

Manning
Palmer - Brees - Plummer - McNair
Brady - Green

How he got it makes no damn sense to me. His team sucked, and he had 16 TDs to 11 INTs in 14 games. The most obvious snub of this whole Pro Bowl is now Roethlisberger. I'd be willing to bet the guy with the third highest passer rating in the league hasn't been snubbed out of the PB in a long time. And he has more TDs and less INTs than McNair, yet are they actually saying he's the 8th best AFC QB this year? It's just ridiculous to me.

I guess if McNair's injured they'll be asking Gus Frerotte next.

isn't pro bowl based on fans votes?
regardless-- i never watch the game anyway.
bigmike
02/09/06, 04:55 PM
wow, this thread is about three pages too long for a game that is mind numbingly boring.
afk999
02/09/06, 05:03 PM
im not a roethlisberger fan at all but thats ridiculous
itsjdiggity
02/09/06, 06:33 PM
im not a roethlisberger fan at all but thats ridiculous

he doesn't wanna play in it
still_life
02/09/06, 08:01 PM
Pro Bowl is based on three votes - fan, coaches, and players. I think NBA and MLB are all fan votes. Roethlisberger was third in fan voting.

highest in NFL history?! please. he's played two years. whoop dee do. he's going to have at least one bad year in the future.

You said he wouldn't make it if his career went the same as it did this year every year, which means he'd have a career rating of 98.3, the best ever (unless Peyton keeps going over 100 for the next 7 years). Add that with being the youngest QB to win a SB, and he'd be a HOF lock. It was a dumb argument you tried to make.

It's too early to talk seriously about HOF, but you could always debate about it. Put it this way, has any QB ever put himself in better HOF shape in his first two seasons than Roethlisberger? 27-4 record (best ever), youngest to win a SB, undefeated rookie in regular season, rookie record for passer rating and completion %. Only things missing from his resume are a league MVP, SB MVP, and Pro Bowl bid.