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Matthew
03/19/03, 04:30 PM
Imagine if Saddam asked to inspect the US military facilities and explore the White Hosue for "secret subterranean facilities". Imagine if upon losing UN support for his case, Saddam said that Bush must leave America within 24 hours or hew ould unleash smallpox on the nation.

We would be outraged. What gives us the authority to make demands like that?

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 04:33 PM
Very well put, Despite what most people think, America doesn't police the globe, though sometimes they belive they do.

LessThanRoger
03/19/03, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
Imagine if Saddam asked to inspect the US military facilities and explore the White Hosue for "secret subterranean facilities". Imagine if upon losing UN support for his case, Saddam said that Bush must leave America within 24 hours or hew ould unleash smallpox on the nation.

We would be outraged. What gives us the authority to make demands like that? LOL thats completely unplausible, do we attempt genocide? 1.2 million people have been reportedly been killed by Saddam. Torture chambers, rape rooms. The scenario cant even be created. We arent breaking UN Code!! Iraq has been breaking it for YEARS!!! We dont threaten the use of chemical warfare and we are a democracy, not a tyrannical dictatorship. Look, when your own army is giving in, then obviously its time for an ousting. What are you? Head of the Saddam fan club?!

yeat182
03/19/03, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
Imagine if Saddam asked to inspect the US military facilities and explore the White Hosue for "secret subterranean facilities". Imagine if upon losing UN support for his case, Saddam said that Bush must leave America within 24 hours or hew ould unleash smallpox on the nation.

We would be outraged. What gives us the authority to make demands like that?

the cease fire agreement and 17 broken UN resolutions gives us the right to do it. if we invaded canada, were defeated and forcec to sign an agreement in which we promise to destroy all our weapons of mass destruction immediatley, then Iraq may have the authority to do so. it didn't take the Ukraine or South Africa 12 years and 17 resolutions to disarm, why did it take saddam so long to do so?

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 04:37 PM
So basically what you're saying is it's not alright for Saddam and Iraq to break an agrement with the u.n, but it's alright for america? oh it makes sense now.

yeat182
03/19/03, 04:38 PM
we didn't break an agreement with the UN

LessThanRoger
03/19/03, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
So basically what you're saying is it's not alright for Saddam and Iraq to break an agrement with the u.n, but it's alright for america? oh it makes sense now. Wow are you dylexic? Maybe a little retarded? Cause last i checked we havent broken any resolutions, in fact we are the reason the UN exists, we put more money into that than any other country in the world. If we drop out, the UN ceases to effectively exist.

cornecopria
03/19/03, 04:41 PM
The us has more weapons then any fucking country in the world

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by LessThanRoger
Wow are you dylexic? Maybe a little retarded? Cause last i checked we havent broken any resolutions, in fact we are the reason the UN exists, we put more money into that than any other country in the world. If we drop out, the UN ceases to effectively exist.

You put more money into the u.n than anyone hahahaha check your sources buddy, you are actually behind on payments and are over 1 billion dollars in debt to the u.n

Justin_stacy
03/19/03, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
Very well put, Despite what most people think, America doesn't police the globe, though sometimes they belive they do.

That was very stupid point. How would you like if you lived in a police state were you could be tortured or your wife raped for the remarks you just made. Would that be freedom? Do you even care that others dont get to "EVER" see the freedoms that you possess?

And to the idiot above AMERICA was made the police of the world by the DEMOCRATS, they made every European problem ours.

yeat182
03/19/03, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
The us has more weapons then any fucking country in the world

the USSR had more nuclear weapons than we did, russia may still have an comprable number...

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
the USSR had more nuclear weapons than we did, russia may still have an comprable number...

Yes they DID have more, but It's now 2003, not 1985

Justin_stacy
03/19/03, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
The us has more weapons then any fucking country in the world

Whats your point?

Fobika!
03/19/03, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
The us has more weapons then any fucking country in the world

...how is that even remotely relevant??

yeat182
03/19/03, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
Yes they DID have more, but It's now 2003, not 1985

RUSSIA MAY STILL HAVE A COMPARABLE NUMBER....i typed it nice a big so you can read it. sound out the words one at time.

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 04:47 PM
See I wasn't arguing the fact that russia has a lot , a very large amount, but i was actually arguing that America has the most I don't care how if any one else is close to the amount.

yeat182
03/19/03, 04:49 PM
if russia has the same amount, how could the US have the most? you don't even make sense. i'm not saying that for fact they do, but still, try and string together a coherrent arguement.

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 04:52 PM
I am THE U.S OF A HAS MORE NUKES THAN ANYONE ON THE PLANET. Period

oh i also like how the've invented a new more powerful missle just in time for this war the M.O.A.B the most deadly missle next to a nuclear weapon, wow thats amzing.

cornecopria
03/19/03, 04:54 PM
Yeah i know eh, lets create weapons of mass destruction to get rid of weapons of mass destruction

yeat182
03/19/03, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
Yeah i know eh, lets create weapons of mass destruction to get rid of weapons of mass destruction


it was designed to be an alternative to a nuclear warhead, one that will not pollute the environment with radiation for years.

EmoMoose86
03/19/03, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
The us has more weapons then any fucking country in the world

Oh okay

so?

What do you want us to give it to the countries of the world for that we're all even?

Ever sat back and wondered why the perm members of the UN security council posess nuclear weapons? Why they have the most powerful militaries in the world? hm.

And this whole argument these Anti-war people are making really are weak.

"This is AN ILLEGAL WAR!"

Oh really- how so? (no answer)

"I think the UN should inspect the US! ya!"

We don't gas our own people, we don't have a dictator, and to stop and think about it... where is the UN building guys? oh yea- AMERICA.

"The US are being bullies- they try to be world policemen!"

Ever since 9/11 it has become the United State's duty to ensure that it never happens again.
So the anti-war people sit back and say- "oh yea- just kiss and make up- give them more time- i mean- Blix has only had.. what.. 3 1/2 months going in a wild goose chase in Iraq to find weapons- and before that there were the 12 years they've tried... give Iraq another 12 years- I am sure they'll comply then."

Like Bush said tonight:
We have the US army, airforce, navy, coast guard engaged in Iraq now for that we won't have Policemen, Firefighters and Doctors engaged in US cities tomorrow. (summerized- i think? its something like that)

Terrorists have picked the United States as a target, and we can not step back and wait for another 9/11. Being a pussy won't get us thru this. If we take out threatening nations that posess WMD and that can sell them to Terrorists- we will.

"North Korea is much more dangerous! But Bush wants IRAQ!"

Yes, North Korea is more dangerous- but Bush was talking about a War in Iraq September 12th 2001. I don't know if you noticed, but you should have known this war was going to happen 3 months ago. We know (CIA told us) that there are Al-Qadea (spelling?) in Baghdad. Terrorists + WMD = Bad.

cornecopria
03/19/03, 05:02 PM
Its illegal because the UN didn't sanction it because there was no reason to go to war, The whole world doesn't have to be democratic, if a dictator works for them they should have a dictator, you stupid americans try to impose a government on a society where that form of government wouldn't work, the 9/11 was the scapegoat so the US could attack Iraq eventually, stop listening to CNN bullshit about what the CIA said

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by EmoMoose86
Oh okay

so?

What do you want us to give it to the countries of the world for that we're all even?

Ever sat back and wondered why the perm members of the UN security council posess nuclear weapons? Why they have the most powerful militaries in the world? hm.

And this whole argument these Anti-war people are making really are weak.

"This is AN ILLEGAL WAR!"

Oh really- how so? (no answer)

"I think the UN should inspect the US! ya!"

We don't gas our own people, we don't have a dictator, and to stop and think about it... where is the UN building guys? oh yea- AMERICA.

"The US are being bullies- they try to be world policemen!"

Ever since 9/11 it has become the United State's duty to ensure that it never happens again.
So the anti-war people sit back and say- "oh yea- just kiss and make up- give them more time- i mean- Blix has only had.. what.. 3 1/2 months going in a wild goose chase in Iraq to find weapons- and before that there were the 12 years they've tried... give Iraq another 12 years- I am sure they'll comply then."

Like Bush said tonight:
We have the US army, airforce, navy, coast guard engaged in Iraq now for that we won't have Policemen, Firefighters and Doctors engaged in US cities tomorrow. (summerized- i think? its something like that)

Terrorists have picked the United States as a target, and we can not step back and wait for another 9/11. Being a pussy won't get us thru this. If we take out threatening nations that posess WMD and that can sell them to Terrorists- we will.

"North Korea is much more dangerous! But Bush wants IRAQ!"

Yes, North Korea is more dangerous- but Bush was talking about a War in Iraq September 12th 2001. I don't know if you noticed, but you should have known this war was going to happen 3 months ago. We know (CIA told us) that there are Al-Qadea (spelling?) in Baghdad. Terrorists + WMD = Bad.

O.K where do i start, it is an "illegal" war because you need permission from the u.n to invade a country, second of all no you don't gas a million of your own people you nuke a million other people, oh and assasinate your own president. And why do you think that these "terrorists" have only targeted the u.s? Do you think that one day they just woke up and said man i hate the u.s lets get those batsards, NO it's because you stick your nose into everyones business i've said it before and i'll say it again. NOT EVERYONE WANTS FUCKING DEMOCRACY, people have their own way of living, so stop spreading your ways around the world.

yeat182
03/19/03, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
O.K where do i start, it is an "illegal" war because you need permission from the u.n to invade a country, second of all no you don't gas a million of your own people you nuke a million other people, oh and assasinate your own president. And why do you think that these "terrorists" have only targeted the u.s? Do you think that one day they just woke up and said man i hate the u.s lets get those batsards, NO it's because you stick your nose into everyones business i've said it before and i'll say it again. NOT EVERYONE WANTS FUCKING DEMOCRACY, people have their own way of living, so stop spreading your ways around the world.

we do not need the UN's permission to disarm Iraq, they signed a cease fire agreement with america after the gulf war, and they've broken that agreement, giving us the right to enforce the terms of that agreement.

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
it was designed to be an alternative to a nuclear warhead, one that will not pollute the environment with radiation for years.

Ohhh so it only kills mass amounts of people when it explodes not afterwards? Oh thats alright then.

Justin_stacy
03/19/03, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
Its illegal because the UN didn't sanction it because there was no reason to go to war, The whole world doesn't have to be democratic, if a dictator works for them they should have a dictator, you stupid americans try to impose a government on a society where that form of government wouldn't work, the 9/11 was the scapegoat so the US could attack Iraq eventually, stop listening to CNN bullshit about what the CIA said

How stupid are you
"if a dictator works for them they should have a dictator"
Do you even know about shit he has done to his own people? Do you know that one of his sons is head of a death squad? Or that he gassed his own people? That he rapes the wives of people that go against him? That 1,000,000 Iraq citizens are missing? I think you have placed the stupid american quote on the wrong people.

yeat182
03/19/03, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
Ohhh so it only kills mass amounts of people when it explodes not afterwards? Oh thats alright then.

it is better than killing thousands more innocent people through radiation poisoning....

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 05:10 PM
Yeah cornecopria you're an idiot, It's dead wrong to kill your own people but it's fucking cool if we kill other people!!! Ya on with the war!!

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
it is better than killing thousands more innocent people through radiation poisoning....

Or we could NOT KILL ANYONE AT ALL, we shouldn't be making new weapons, when the goal is to abolish them.

yeat182
03/19/03, 05:16 PM
or we could defend ourselves so that your children and your childrens children don't have to die because some terrorist or dictator doesn't like america....

cornecopria
03/19/03, 05:17 PM
are children and childrens children wont die because we in Canada don't start wars

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
or we could defend ourselves so that your children and your childrens children don't have to die because some terrorist or dictator doesn't like america....

I don't have to worry about that, because my priminister isn't trying to spread our views across the globe, you ever wonder why everyone hates america? They didn't just one day decide to hate the u.s.

Justin_stacy
03/19/03, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
I don't have to worry about that, because my priminister isn't trying to spread our views across the globe, you ever wonder why everyone hates america? They didn't just one day decide to hate the u.s.


Not everyone hates us, just about every country in the world envy's us.

and you priminister doesn't have the power to spread his views.

yeat182
03/19/03, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
I don't have to worry about that, because my priminister isn't trying to spread our views across the globe, you ever wonder why everyone hates america? They didn't just one day decide to hate the u.s.


your prime minister is dependent on the american military to defend your country...

EmoMoose86
03/19/03, 05:25 PM
Yea, like was said, You don't need UN permission to go to war. Many wars have been fought without UN permission or approval. Its just the way it goes.

No, terrorists do attack other countires. BUT the US today is a target, and we are doing something about it.

Fluffing off a threat and just sitting around isn't the way to end all this. You'll just wait untill the next one happens.
If we take out threats, they don't happen anymore- because they are gone. And future terrorists will look upon the happenings of 9/11 and all that followed - the US going to Afghanistan and Iraq and say to themsevles "oh crap."

Terrorists can not win. Not doing anything is letting them win.

whole weapons making ... things...

Today we make smart bombs, we don't use Nuclear weapons in today's modern warfare (chemical/biological weapons also)... We don't want to kill civilians, we make weapons today to get the job done and to pull out. Terrorists make weapons (they make them mind you) or make frick'n planes into weapons.

Fact is, we are a dominant world power. In the past there has always been one (or many- and they mostly always fight). Although, in the past dominant countries make huge empires (british empire, France, even Spain) Today, with the United States at the seat of the dominant world power, we don't make a huge empire that span across the world, we don't oppress a people, we help. Not only help other people, but mostly to help ourselves to ensure that we don't get screwed (9/11).

If the US sat around, we'd have terrorists up our asses 10 fold. Instead of Terrorists running like they are right now, they'd be making new plans to kill innocent lives.

cornecopria
03/19/03, 05:27 PM
Not everyone hates us, just about every country in the world envy's us.
most ignorant comment ever, almost all of Europe hates the us, a hell of a lot of other countries do toyour prime minister is dependent on the american military to defend your country...
we don't need to be defended because we don't start shit

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 05:29 PM
O.K name one Country with out ties to the U.S who has serious terrorist threats?

yeat182
03/19/03, 05:32 PM
name me 1 country without ties to the US

EmoMoose86
03/19/03, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
your prime minister is dependent on the american military to defend your country...

very very very true.

Corn,

European counties do like us us. All of them. And for the war, many European countries do support us.
Bulgaria, Albania, Ukraine, UK, Spain, Portigal, Italy, Belarus, Poland etc.

35 countires have openly supported us

another 5 silently support us.

Thats a lot of countries.

In the past, YES YOU DEF NEEDED TO BE DEFENDED.
Cold war? ding dong?
Where were the early warning radar fences that would detect Soviet Aircraft coming into North America?
Canada
the US worked very closely with Canada to ensure that the Soviet Union would not attack us.
and that is a fact.
I guess you could say the US was helping and protecting Canada.

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 05:34 PM
What i meant by ties is that they arn't aiding the country for benifit of something like Isreal persay, they are protecting Isralites from Palistinians, therefore they get threatend all the time and same goes to South Korea.

yeat182
03/19/03, 05:36 PM
yes, but that goes with out saying, if you are protecting someone's enemy, they are going to hate you. that doesn't mean you shouldn't protect or support those you feel need your help.

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 05:37 PM
Yes i know i agree with you there thats why i'm asking you Name one country who doesn't have these ties with the u.s who recieves serious terrorist threats?

EmoMoose86
03/19/03, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
What i meant by ties is that they arn't aiding the country for benifit of something like Isreal persay, they are protecting Isralites from Palistinians, therefore they get threatend all the time and same goes to South Korea.

The US has placed an Embargo on North Korea...

BUT

you don't think the US doesnt give aid the Palistinians?

DonnieDarko
03/19/03, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by EmoMoose86
The US has placed an Embargo on North Korea...

BUT

you don't think the US doesnt give aid the Palistinians?

Giving aid to the Palistinians? Sure they might i'm not sure, but they send choppers, bombs, guns, ammo and a lot of stuff the the Isralis, who they are in support of.

yeat182
03/19/03, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
Yes i know i agree with you there thats why i'm asking you Name one country who doesn't have these ties with the u.s who recieves serious terrorist threats?

well, there are terroists in china that have nothing to do with the US, and terrorists in russia, but if we're talking arab/musilm terrorists, i can' think of any off hand.

Justin_stacy
03/19/03, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
most ignorant comment ever, almost all of Europe hates the us, a hell of a lot of other countries do to


You are so stupid my friend, im sorry i hate to be rude but you dont have a clue.

Before you call me ignorant learn some thing and then we'll discuss this.

And to just let you know France, Germany, Russia, and China are all envious of us and that is why they protested the war. NO other country on the planet as the ability like the USA, to protect the world like we do.

Justin_stacy
03/19/03, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
Giving aid to the Palistinians? Sure they might i'm not sure, but they send choppers, bombs, guns, ammo and a lot of stuff the the Isralis, who they are in support of.

Israel is surrounded on all side by either terrorist/hostile countries that is why we support them so much. And we do give the palistinians millions of $ each year and we'd probably give them more if there gov. wasn't so corrupt.

yeat182
03/19/03, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by EmoMoose86
very very very true.

Corn,

European counties do like us us. All of them. And for the war, many European countries do support us.
Bulgaria, Albania, Ukraine, UK, Spain, Portigal, Italy, Belarus, Poland etc.

35 countires have openly supported us

another 5 silently support us.

Thats a lot of countries.

In the past, YES YOU DEF NEEDED TO BE DEFENDED.
Cold war? ding dong?
Where were the early warning radar fences that would detect Soviet Aircraft coming into North America?
Canada
the US worked very closely with Canada to ensure that the Soviet Union would not attack us.
and that is a fact.
I guess you could say the US was helping and protecting Canada.


the canadian military has 58,000 personnel

american has over 250,000 in the gulf alone....

canada needs america's protection

Mr. Chainsaw
03/19/03, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
we didn't break an agreement with the UN

so i will say this for the second time. if you read the un charter, taking acton against a county that the un was taking action against when not in self defense could be interpreted as a violation. while they don't make decisions for us, we signed into this charter saying that we would allow the un security council to make decisions in such situations. a unilateral attack without un approval could be a violation.

Justin_stacy
03/19/03, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Chainsaw
so i will say this for the second time. if you read the un charter, taking acton against a county that the un was taking action against when not in self defense could be interpreted as a violation. while they don't make decisions for us, we signed into this charter saying that we would allow the un security council to make decisions in such situations. a unilateral attack without un approval could be a violation.

See the problem here is that no matter what the UN decieded the french were going to veto it.

Mr. Chainsaw
03/19/03, 07:42 PM
yes. they had said that they would not even take it into consideration, however that does not change the fact that we could also be in violation of our agreement with the un. that was simply a reply to the post that said we did not break any agreement. well, we may have, whether or not it is justified is another issue.

Justin_stacy
03/19/03, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Chainsaw
yes. they had said that they would not even take it into consideration, however that does not change the fact that we could also be in violation of our agreement with the un. that was simply a reply to the post that said we did not break any agreement. well, we may have, whether or not it is justified is another issue.


gotcha!

cornecopria
03/20/03, 02:28 AM
NO other country on the planet as the ability like the USA, to protect the world like we do.
The USA doesn't protect the world they take what they want from it. When I went over to Europe i went to England, France, German and many other countries if i didn't wear my Canadian pin i was looked down on and everybody you come into contact with was rude to you just because they thought i was American. If that doesn't show the hatred then i don't know what would. The governments of these countries may love the US just but the citizens sure as hell do not. We didn't need protection during the Cold War because Canada wasn't involved and the only reason the cold war went on was because you morons wanted a bigger weapons arsenal then the USSR so you caused the only reason Canada would need protection.

EmoMoose86
03/20/03, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by cornecopria
When I went over to Europe i went to England, France, German and many other countries if i didn't wear my Canadian pin i was looked down on and everybody you come into contact with was rude to you just because they thought i was American.

Hey, in the past 6 years of my life i have lived over seas in Kuwait and England.

There was no one time that they looked down upon me.

Never.

9/11 in england, The American School that i went to had a gate and all, and for a month after 9/11 people from London and the town would drive to the gate and put flowers on it.

There were 620 things of flowers in total at one point in time.

I have also visited 5 additional arab nations
8 European Countires
2 African Countires
and 1 Asian Country
...and Canada

and as i said, no one ever hated me for being an American.

BrandNewRock05
03/20/03, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by cornecopria
The USA doesn't protect the world they take what they want from it. When I went over to Europe i went to England, France, German and many other countries if i didn't wear my Canadian pin i was looked down on and everybody you come into contact with was rude to you just because they thought i was American. If that doesn't show the hatred then i don't know what would. The governments of these countries may love the US just but the citizens sure as hell do not. We didn't need protection during the Cold War because Canada wasn't involved and the only reason the cold war went on was because you morons wanted a bigger weapons arsenal then the USSR so you caused the only reason Canada would need protection.
You are full of shit you dumbfuck asshole. I lived in Europe for five years while my dad served in the military. Italy and Germany. I also traveled to every western european country and many eastern european countries and a few African countries. Not once was I looked down upon because I was an American. If anything I was idolized. Tunisians once came up to me when I was like 9 or 10 and had this long conversation with me. When they found out my name was Michael, they ran inside and grabbed a radio and played Thriller by Michael Jackson. Europeans dont hate Americans, French do. When I went to France I HATED it. Its too artsy for me in the first place, but the guys walk around like they have a paintbrush up their ass. French blow. Italians, Germans, Spaniards....they were some of the kindest people I have ever met. Europe is full of nice people, and if anything, being an American made them even nicer to me.

yeat182
03/20/03, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Chainsaw
so i will say this for the second time. if you read the un charter, taking acton against a county that the un was taking action against when not in self defense could be interpreted as a violation. while they don't make decisions for us, we signed into this charter saying that we would allow the un security council to make decisions in such situations. a unilateral attack without un approval could be a violation.


i will say this a second time, we have a cease fire agreement with Iraq, they broke that agreement, that gives us the legal right, under the UN charter, to enforce the terms of that agreement, whcih calls for disarmarment by force.

also, it is not a "Unilateral attack", there are 35 countries involved. get your facts straight.

Justin_stacy
03/20/03, 06:39 AM
posted by cornecopria
[The USA doesn't protect the world they take what they want from it.]



You have no idea what you are talking about again. Every time there is a problem in Europe who is called in to take care of it? And we take what we want, that just stupid, did we take the oil from Afghan? No.




[ I went over to Europe i went to England, France, German and many other countries if i didn't wear my Canadian pin i was looked down on and everybody you come into contact with was rude to you just because they thought i was American. If that doesn't show the hatred then i don't know what would. The governments of these countries may love the US just but the citizens sure as hell do not. We didn't need protection during the Cold War because Canada wasn't involved and the only reason the cold war went on was because you morons wanted a bigger weapons arsenal then the USSR so you caused the only reason Canada would need protection. ]


GOD, where do you come up with this shit! Yes the cold war had to do with weapons, but its MAIN cause was a battle between Communism vs. Capitalism. And we needed weapons becasue the USSR was run by insane brutal dictators (ie STALIN).

So when you went to Europe, did you pay any attention to what these people were WATCHING, WEARING, LISTENING TO, and EATING. Kind of fun that they hate us so much but want to be exactly like us.

savestheglory
03/20/03, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
Imagine if Saddam asked to inspect the US military facilities and explore the White Hosue for "secret subterranean facilities". Imagine if upon losing UN support for his case, Saddam said that Bush must leave America within 24 hours or hew ould unleash smallpox on the nation.

We would be outraged. What gives us the authority to make demands like that?


we are the most powerful, most respected and most democratic nation in the world, we've never killed thousands of our own people for "experiments" and we've never conquered a country or attacked anybody without a reason... saddam hussein doesn't have the right to do this, because our weapons are legitimate, the un hasn't asked us to forfeit our weapons 5000000 times, this is the stupidest scenario i've ever heard you don't know what your talkigna bout

Fobika!
03/20/03, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by savestheglory
we are the most powerful, most respected and most democratic nation in the world, we've never killed thousands of our own people for "experiments" and we've never conquered a country or attacked anybody without a reason... saddam hussein doesn't have the right to do this, because our weapons are legitimate, the un hasn't asked us to forfeit our weapons 5000000 times, this is the stupidest scenario i've ever heard you don't know what your talkigna bout

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yeat182
03/20/03, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Krammit
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didn't you just post here?

Fobika!
03/20/03, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
didn't you just post here?

yes...i am dumb

cornecopria
03/20/03, 04:35 PM
we are the most powerful, most respected and most democratic nation in the world, we've never killed thousands of our own people for "experiments" and we've never conquered a country or attacked anybody without a reason...
But killing your own president is OK?

Justin_stacy
03/20/03, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
But killing your own president is OK?

what are you talking about ?

yeat182
03/20/03, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
But killing your own president is OK?

yeah, seriously, what are you talking about?

DonnieDarko
03/20/03, 06:26 PM
He is most definatly talking about J.F.K

BrandNewRock05
03/21/03, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
He is most definatly talking about J.F.K
That isnt a fair representation of the general public. One person killed JFK. Dont get me started on all of this conspiracy bullshit. The books say one man. One man. How does his have anything to do with what the subject was.

DonnieDarko
03/21/03, 12:10 PM
Well more than one person was involved with the assassination of your former president, and the fact that your own country was the one who killed him is a lot.

I mean where do I start, apparently only 3 bullets were fired, in a matter of 3.5 seconds, now, not only is it impossible for someone to fire 3 bullets out of a non-automatic gun , but having one hit him? I'll just leave you with that, i have about 200 other facts, if you really must know, then i'll type them up later.

This just shows that america will goto any length to get what they want.

yeat182
03/21/03, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko
Well more than one person was involved with the assassination of your former president, and the fact that your own country was the one who killed him is a lot.


it isn't a fact that our own country tried to kill him...

cornecopria
03/23/03, 01:09 PM
yes it is, the Government at the time(which means the whole country) killed JFK. DonnieDarko has a 2000 page book explaining how JFK was killed. But like DonnieDarko also said before, the US will go to any length to get what they want

Justin_stacy
03/23/03, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
yes it is, the Government at the time(which means the whole country) killed JFK. DonnieDarko has a 2000 page book explaining how JFK was killed. But like DonnieDarko also said before, the US will go to any length to get what they want

There are just as many books stating that it was a communist group with links to communist countries that did the kill.
No one knows who killed JFK and there are no books out there that can prove the killer, and most likly there will never be. Its just one of those things that we will have to live with.

yeat182
03/23/03, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by cornecopria
yes it is, the Government at the time(which means the whole country) killed JFK. DonnieDarko has a 2000 page book explaining how JFK was killed. But like DonnieDarko also said before, the US will go to any length to get what they want


it is a theory, not a fact. there is an enormus difference. i have a book that says aliens visited earth 5000 years ago and taught the egyptians and south american civilizations mathematics and how to built pyramids. that doesn't make it fact.

BrandNewRock05
03/23/03, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
it is a theory, not a fact. there is an enormus difference. i have a book that says aliens visited earth 5000 years ago and taught the egyptians and south american civilizations mathematics and how to built pyramids. that doesn't make it fact.
Well put, and I think I read that book too.

savestheglory
03/25/03, 11:26 AM
my posts keep getting deleted, i guess some liberals don't like my words of truth