All Star Reserves announced

[Drew Beringer]

EAST: Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton, Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Chris Bosh, Paul Pierce and Vince Carter

WEST:Ray Allen, Tony Parker Dirk Nowitzki, Elton Brand,Pau Gasol, Kevin Garnett and Shawn Marion.

I think it's bullshit taht 4 Pistons made it, especially since Redd and Arenas should be there. West reserves I agree with pretty much.

[Drew Beringer]

From ESPNs Page 2:

The biggest question about tonight's announcement of the NBA All-Star Game reserves:

How many Pistons will make it?

Last month, there was some hype about the entire starting 5 being voted in, but that was back when they were still on a 72-win pace; that bandwagon has slowed this week with Detroit's two losses in their last 3 games.

The anticipation is that the NBA's best backcourt -- Billups and Hamilton -- are both locks (deservingly so), along with Big Ben. Rasheed Wallace was third among fan voting for forwards and has been rumored to make it. Tayshaun Prince is on the outside looking in. Four out of five, when there are only seven spots to go around the entire East? That's greedy.

Is the success of a team as a unit appropriate for an individual showcase like the All-Star Game? I'd argue it's not the place for that; the NBA Finals are. If fans wanted to see the Pistons' starting 5, they'd watch a regular season game.

The All-Star Game should reward individual success over team success. The Pistons are great precisely because they think of themselves as one unit, not multiple stars. That's not what the NBA All-Star Game is supposed to be about, but that's what it's shaping up to be this season.

I love watching the Pistons starters play as a group, but if there's one place where team has little value, it's the NBA All-Star Game.

[somethingyellow]

ya i disagree with 4 pistons making it

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

no melo, again

[weezer182]

no melo, againhaha i hope he never makes an all-star team. it is nice though to see bosh on the east all-star team

[itsjdiggity]

yeah, fuck melo

Ray Allen is in this shit...i have a reason to watch

[Caleb Cattivera]

i woulve picked arenas over billups. based off pure individual performance.

[itsjdiggity]

Chris Bosh looks like a Raptor
http://admin.theinsiders.com/Media/HS_Basketball/25_ChrisBoshABCD.JPGhttp://jhoover.weblogdog.com/media/1/20030204-raptor.jpg

[Emopunkthrice]

Sheed isn't having much of a year is he? Arenas/Redd do deserve it though, I agree

[Drew Beringer]

Chris Bosh looks like a Raptor
http://admin.theinsiders.com/Media/HS_Basketball/25_ChrisBoshABCD.JPGhttp://jhoover.weblogdog.com/media/1/20030204-raptor.jpg

Well it makes sense since he plays for them.

[Ravenna]

arenas not being on the all star team is a fucking joke. he is practically dropping 30per. a damn travesty.

[Ravenna]

and how did pierce make it ahead of both redd and arenas? people should actually take into account the teams record before voting. fucking 10 year olds and their moms voting just ruins this shit.

[itsjdiggity]

and how did pierce make it ahead of both redd and arenas? people should actually take into account the teams record before voting. fucking 10 year olds and their moms voting just ruins this shit.

the coaches pick the reserves

[Ravenna]

the coaches pick the reserves
yeah, i just realized that. for a sec i thought it was all fan votes.

[itsjdiggity]

yeah, i just realized that. for a sec i thought it was all fan votes.

i hate fan voting

it should be a combination of coaches + players

[Ravenna]

i hate fan voting

it should be a combination of coaches + players
yeah i agree
im pretty sure if it was like that yao would be watching the game from home

[mikeford]

paul pierce deserves to be an all star.

[Ravenna]

paul pierce deserves to be an all star.
over arenas?

[Emopunkthrice]

David Stern still gets to choose who fills the spot of J.O. which in turn will be Ben Wallace, Chris Bosh, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter, but Gilbert Arenas will get the substitute spot most def.

[Flags of Dawn]

michael redd?

[Johnny_G]

Redd, Arenas, Melo all shafted IMO.

[Drew Beringer]

michael redd?

I'd take him over Billups and/or Hamilton.

[itsjdiggity]

http://www.nba.mocny.com/allstars/images/redd_allen.jpg
I was looking forward to seeing this again.

[Flags of Dawn]

http://www.nba.mocny.com/allstars/images/redd_allen.jpg
I was looking forward to seeing this again.
ahh ray-ray...how we miss you in milwaukee.

[Brownpants06]

bleh. rasheed is having a pretty good season so i'd agree there... ric ham though.. gtfo.

[wessa]

i may take a lot of heat for this, but I really don't think the Ben Wallace should ever be on an All Star team, his game is soooooo one sided. He can't shoot and can't dribble, the only thing he can do is be tall and get blocks by playing help defense, but i guess this is what brings up what i hate about basketball, that being that body type dominates over true skill

in the west, two guys who are both having great seasons who are RARELY talked about are mehmet okur and andrei kirilenko, i know they are from the same team and both could never make the team, but i just love the way both of them play, kirilenko is probably one of the top 5 overall players in the league (guys who can do pretty much everything), i would put him up there with nash, j kidd, lebron, and either wade/ginobili

[Caleb Cattivera]

i may take a lot of heat for this, but I really don't think the Ben Wallace should ever be on an All Star team, his game is soooooo one sided. He can't shoot and can't dribble, the only thing he can do is be tall and get blocks by playing help defense, but i guess this is what brings up what i hate about basketball, that being that body type dominates over true skill

in the west, two guys who are both having great seasons who are RARELY talked about are mehmet okur and andrei kirilenko, i know they are from the same team and both could never make the team, but i just love the way both of them play, kirilenko is probably one of the top 5 overall players in the league (guys who can do pretty much everything), i would put him up there with nash, j kidd, lebron, and either wade/ginobili

kidd's not a top five player, neither is ginobli.

ak is an awesome player, and probably one of the best all around in the leauge, i wont argue there. dudes a beaaaaast. anyone with the nick name ak 47's gotta be bad ass

imo, okur's stats are inflated...when, and if boozer comes back, his numbers will reduce drastically.

[bigmike]

i agree, both rip and chauncey, and you can argue for one of the wallace's. but not all four of them.

[bigmike]

i may take a lot of heat for this, but I really don't think the Ben Wallace should ever be on an All Star team, his game is soooooo one sided. He can't shoot and can't dribble, the only thing he can do is be tall and get blocks by playing help defense, but i guess this is what brings up what i hate about basketball, that being that body type dominates over true skill

in the west, two guys who are both having great seasons who are RARELY talked about are mehmet okur and andrei kirilenko, i know they are from the same team and both could never make the team, but i just love the way both of them play, kirilenko is probably one of the top 5 overall players in the league (guys who can do pretty much everything), i would put him up there with nash, j kidd, lebron, and either wade/ginobili
yeah, you're right it is all about being tall/big. that's why shawn bradley and gheorghe muresan are the two best centers of all time.

[itsjdiggity]

yeah, and if that were true, Jerome James would be dominating

[Doug]

ben wallace isn't even that tall...

[FreshyFresh23]

yeah, and if that were true, Jerome James would be dominating

What a joke..

Rasheed Wallace doesnt deserve to be on the squad at all...his modest stats are inflated by his teammates.. i agree with Chauncey, the other 4 are debatable..

Arenas not getting on the squad is a joke. 28.2 per game and a winning record when Paul Pierce gets on with worse stats all around and 17 total wins...Ugh..

Mehmet Okur is one of the streakiest players in the league, his name shouldnt be mentioned on here at all..

Also, Melo is a total snub for holding together that mess of a team. I saw some article saying the Nuggets had about 7 small forwards and 5 guards.. haha

Overall, pretty good picks though. Im glad Ray Allen got in, i hope he wins the 3 point contest too

[bigmike]

What a joke..

Rasheed Wallace doesnt deserve to be on the squad at all...his modest stats are inflated by his teammates.. i agree with Chauncey, the other 4 are debatable..

Arenas not getting on the squad is a joke. 28.2 per game and a winning record when Paul Pierce gets on with worse stats all around and 17 total wins...Ugh..

Mehmet Okur is one of the streakiest players in the league, his name shouldnt be mentioned on here at all..

Also, Melo is a total snub for holding together that mess of a team. I saw some article saying the Nuggets had about 7 small forwards and 5 guards.. haha

Overall, pretty good picks though. Im glad Ray Allen got in, i hope he wins the 3 point contest too
so sheed should be punished because he plays with a team that shares the ball and "inflates his stats"? I don't know if i buy that argument against him. however, i would say that 4 is excessive, even for me, a pistons fan.

[mikeford]

arenas will get on the squad as JO's injury replacement, no?

[Emopunkthrice]

arenas will get on the squad as JO's injury replacement, no?
most def.

[weezer182]

arenas's numbers are pretty impressive this year, granted his team isnt that great though

[Drew Beringer]

arenas's numbers are pretty impressive this year, granted his team isnt that great though

Wizards are .500 now.

[mcfly21]

i have two words about who got shafted

chris paul- he's basically singlehandedly kept the hornets around 500

[LeftWideOpen]

i have two words about who got shafted

chris paul- he's basically singlehandedly kept the hornets around 500

he's a rookie though, so the shaft is to be expected. Plus I think David West has even more to do w/ the Hornets success.

The biggest shaft here to me is Arenas, but he'll be on there replacing O'Neal. Redd should be in there instead of a Piston too, namely Rasheed.

[Caleb Cattivera]

he's a rookie though, so the shaft is to be expected. Plus I think David West has even more to do w/ the Hornets success.

The biggest shaft here to me is Arenas, but he'll be on there replacing O'Neal. Redd should be in there instead of a Piston too, namely Rasheed.

doesnt matter, rookie or not...paul is the main reason for the hornets success...he's made david west a better player. chris paul is the point guard of the future in the nba...i think we've got another jason kidd on our hands.

[Ravenna]

he's a rookie though, so the shaft is to be expected. Plus I think David West has even more to do w/ the Hornets success.

The biggest shaft here to me is Arenas, but he'll be on there replacing O'Neal. Redd should be in there instead of a Piston too, namely Rasheed.
west has been huge this year, quite possibly MIP, but i don't think he has more to do this the hornets success than paul.

[Caleb Cattivera]

west has been huge this year, quite possibly MIP, but i don't think he has more to do this the hornets success than paul.

yeah, paul has made that entire team better. he's been the most productive all around rookie the leauge has seen in awhile.

[Ravenna]

yeah, paul has made that entire team better. he's been the most productive all around rookie the leauge has seen in awhile.
yeah i agree. probably the best small rook since AI

[Caleb Cattivera]

yeah i agree. probably the best small rook since AI

iverson was one hell of a rookie...and is one hell of a player...but did nothing to make his team better, the sixers had a better team ai's rookie year than paul's been given. stackhouse, coleman, weatherspoon was still producing. they only won 22 games that season. iverson rarley makes any of his teammates around him better(which is why he prolly wont be in philly next season).

the hornets won 18 games all last season...and have already won 25 this year...befoere the all star break, and are 2 games over .500. paul constantly makes everyone around him better(except that bum jr smith), and is a better all around player and influence than iverson.

chris paul should be an all star...but he'll have plennnnty of those.

[Emopunkthrice]

yup, Arenas was the substitute.

[somethingyellow]

yup, Arenas was the substitute.and to think he wears number 0 because people said he would play 0 minutes in college :shake:

[Emopunkthrice]

and to think he wears number 0 because people said he would play 0 minutes in college :shake:
he has to be the best second round pick for a couple years.

[Drew Beringer]

he has to be the best second round pick for a couple years.

Redd was a second rounder also. I still wish he would have made it instead of Billups or Hamilton. Or Pierce.

[Emopunkthrice]

Redd was a second rounder also. I still wish he would have made it instead of Billups or Hamilton. Or Pierce.
Pierce just because he's so hyped....but I do think Redd should've been over Rip or Chauncey.

[Drew Beringer]

Pierce has better stats than Redd, but if they are gonna do the whole "team has a good record" thing, then Redd should have been in it instead cause the Bucks are way better than the Celtics.

[itsjdiggity]

and to think he wears number 0 because people said he would play 0 minutes in college :shake:

he also flipped a coin to decide if he would sign with the Clippers or the Wizards

damn, that ***** should've came to la

[Caleb Cattivera]

Pierce has better stats than Redd, but if they are gonna do the whole "team has a good record" thing, then Redd should have been in it instead cause the Bucks are way better than the Celtics.

pierce is a better all around player than redd. he's better statistically not just in scoring, but every other category. ppg, apg, rpg, fg%.

he deserves it more than redd IMO. pierce has no help in boston right now. the young guns are just preparing themselves for next season. it's no always about a better record, players in the past have made it from not so good teams.

[Drew Beringer]

pierce is a better all around player than redd. he's better statistically not just in scoring, but every other category. ppg, apg, rpg, fg%.

he deserves it more than redd IMO. pierce has no help in boston right now. the young guns are just preparing themselves for next season. it's no always about a better record, players in the past have made it from not so good teams.

That's true, but Redd should have made it instead of Billups or Hamilton.

[Caleb Cattivera]

That's true, but Redd should have made it instead of Billups or Hamilton.

id say hamilton. he has very medicore stats compared to some other guards.

[Drew Beringer]

id say hamilton. he has very medicore stats compared to some other guards.

Yeah, I agree. Billups is the best player on the Pistons so he should be on it, but Redd > Hamilton.

[Caleb Cattivera]

the more i think about it. the more i think dwight howard shoulda been in.

[bigmike]

the more i think about it. the more i think dwight howard shoulda been in.
he had a double-double (11 pts, 12 reb.) in the first 16 minutes of the game against the pistons tonight.

[itsjdiggity]

Dwight Howard is the definition of a beast

[Caleb Cattivera]

yeah eh should be in over big ben.

[bigmike]

yeah eh should be in over big ben.
i think so. however, he did only finish with 19 pts, 17 rebs. for 37 minutes. Plus, 2nd year man, 20 year old kid, leading the league in rebounds? he's a fucking beast. Emeka who?

[Caleb Cattivera]

i think so. however, he did only finish with 19 pts, 17 rebs. for 37 minutes. Plus, 2nd year man, 20 year old kid, leading the league in rebounds? he's a fucking beast. Emeka who?

ONLY 19 and 17? psh, that's amazing. esp against the pistons.

yeah emeka's not too hot. i dont see him ever really being a force in the nba.

if howard keeps this up...and can get on a winning team...he could be a second coming of tim duncan.

[bigmike]

ONLY 19 and 17? psh, that's amazing. esp against the pistons.

yeah emeka's not too hot. i dont see him ever really being a force in the nba.

if howard keeps this up...and can get on a winning team...he could be a second coming of tim duncan.
yeah, i left and only saw the first half, but he had this left jump hook dropping in the first half. And i said only just because he had 11 and 12 in the first 16 mins so i was thinking something like 25 and 20. i didn't mean it like 19 and 17 is a bad stat line. you know.