Alexisonfire - Old Crows/Young Cardinals

[Drew Beringer]

Alexisonfire – Old Crows/Young Cardinals
Release Date: June 23, 2009
Record Label: Vagrant

It’s no secret that I wasn’t particularly fond of Crisis, Alexisonfire’s third album and Vagrant Records debut. In fact, I was very disheartened by it because any band that has the talent Alexisonfire possesses should never release an album that bad. I hoped that Crisis was just an aberration and not a trend, and after waiting nearly three years, my fear has been calmed. Old Crows/Young Cardinals is a gem, as it is the album we’ve been waiting for the Ontario quintet to write their entire careers.

Produced by Julius Butty, Old Crows/Young Cardinals takes the best progressive parts of Crisis and the intensity of the first two AOF records, making the album a force to be reckoned with. It’s fast, aggressive, and in-your-face; paced by the soul of punk rock and layered with the triple-vocal attack of George Pettit, Dallas Green, and Wade MacNeil. “Old Crows” kicks off the album with a dirty guitar riff and is carried by Pettit’s new gruff vocal delivery. Green makes his first appearance on the high-octane “Young Cardinals,” as he rips through the chorus, while drummer Jordan Hastings sets the tempo.

“Sons of Privilege” proves to be one of the highlights on the new disc, as the riffs from MacNeil urge their way into your cerebellum. The contrast between Pettit’s rough yells and the harmonizing done by MacNeil and Green on the chorus is riveting. All of the tracks on Old Crows/Young Cardinals have dark undertones, and “No Rest” heavily flows in that vein, with its raucous opening chords to the powerful chorus. The slower “The Northern” sludges through the middle of the album, as it expands the band talent. Green takes the reins on this track as guitars and cymbals clash, while the subtle organ haunts the background.

What really stands out on this album is how well the three vocalists utilize their talents and influences into creating such a cohesive end result. The members of Alexisonfire all have their own side projects (City and Colour and The Black Lungs, to name a few), and it is evident that each member brings a little of that to the record.

Green shines on “Midnight Regulations,” which is the jam of Old Crows/Young Cardinals, as Green continues to prove that he has one of the best voices in the scene, if not the best. “Accept Crime” features a very catchy chorus complete with handclaps and “heys!,” while “Burial” finishes the album on a somber, yet beautiful, note.

Old Crows/Young Cardinals is the essential Alexisonfire album. I know fans will spin nostalgic on me, but it doesn't get better than this in AOF's discography. Musically and vocally, it is on point, as the band accomplishes everything they set out to achieve with this record. Old Crows/Young Cardinals has a little something for all kinds of music fans to enjoy. It’s ambient, aggressive, progressive, and never displays a boring moment. Crisis averted, Alexisonfire is on top of its game once again.

Track Listing:
1. Old Crows
2. Young Cardinals
3. Sons of Privilege
4. Born and Raised
5. No Rest
6. The Northern
7. Midnight Regulations
8. Emerald Street
9. Heading for the Sun
10. Accept Crime
11. Burial
Produced by: Julius Butty and Alexisonfire

Alexisonfire is:
George Pettit – lead vocals
Dallas Green – vocals/ rhythm guitar
Wade MacNeil – lead guitar/vocals
Chris Steele – bass
Jordan Hastings – drums

Official Website (http://www.theonlybandever.com); Official Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/alexisonfire); Official AP.net Profile (http://www.absolutepunk.net/alexisonfire)

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[SLADE775]

Old ho's, young harlots

[WhoSaidThat?]

Good stuff, Drew. This record was a great pleasant surprise.

[abbysmith]

This is good news.

[Drew Beringer]

Old ho's, young harlots
damn, I knew I would see good ol Slade in an AOF thread. How is life treating ya, big guy?

[EndSerenading]

will definitely be picking this up. Liked the first 2, the last one disappointed me a bit, but this one is sounding good :)

edit: by picking this up i mean actually buying it haha :P

[SwiftSilentDead]

Album was a grower, but I love it now.

[Anton Djamoos]

Dallas Green has such an awesome voice. Love to hear him in anything.

[Chellebellx0210]

I've been listening to this all day, I think it's obvious that I love it.

[mymusicismylife]

Your review is so much better and more efficient than mine. I completely agree on everything except Burial, which is nice, but i just don't think it stands up to any of their other closers. It's a City and Colour track on an AOF cd. Not that it's necessarily bad, just... seems a little out of place to me. Although it has grown on me. It is Dallas Green after all.

They utilize their voices so well, especially Dallas, the way he uses his voice is absolutely outstanding. Like you mentioned, Sons of Privilege has some absolutely amazing harmonizing, and Dallas is especially good in the alternating part with his "in America" line.

I was worried about George changing his style, but he does it seemlessly, delivering great, aggresive, in-your-face vocals that are absolutely spot on.

I really wish I had waited a day or two to submit my review, I have an even higher opinion of it now, and I'm still discovering some absolutely amazing parts that I should have mentioned.

[musikjunky311]

Great review drew

[kate_vox]

awesome review, drew!
just saw these guys, again, on saturday... and they put on a great show as usual. got me so pumped for this album!

[mymusicismylife]

Oh, and these guys are the reason I'm going to Warped Tour, no matter who else may be stinking up the tour. Give me some Alexisonfire and I'm happy.

[snoboardnfreek]

i cant stop listening to this album its great. really good review!

[theguilt engine]

i cant stop listening to this album its great. really good review!
agreed.

[cscwell107]

I wasn't gonna listen to this but I guess now I will.

[pand75]

AOF is my favorite band and I even can say that this is their best effort. I'm glad you like it too, even though Crisis is very underrated.

[NoOneRunsFaster]

I went into this album with really low expectations, almost disliking it before I heard it. I'm a huge fan of Dallas so I gave a listen.

I love it. It grew on me so quick. You are spot on with the gravely-punk rock-esque description of the lead singers new vocal styles. There are times where he sounds just like the guy from Lawerence Arms.

Add in Dallas' softer toned vocals and its amazing. Great review

[mogwaifearsatan]

i dont think fucked up has anyone from alexisonfire

[Sic Transit Zeb]

Dallas Green has such an awesome voice. Love to hear him in anything.
def agree!

[xjdizzle]

Crisis was not a bad album ! your wrong! .but your right on Old crows-Young Cardinals haha

[Drew Beringer]

i dont think fucked up has anyone from alexisonfire
George has played bass for them occasionally, but isn't a permanent member.

[aoftbsten]

Alexis is my all time favorite band, but I not really feeling this CD. The only song that really amazes me is Born an Raised. This album definitely contains the best vocals of any AOF album, but I feel like their is very little showcases the instrumental talent this band has.

Still, I'll keep listening. It's Alexis so I'm bound to end up loving it.

[Toner]

Although it's a pretty enjoyable record I'm pretty disappointed with it as a whole. I found the whole experience a bit routine and almost lazy (see "Heading for the Sun"). Probably the biggest disappointment was "Burial". Alexisonfire always deliver on the closer but "Burial" just floats along and then ends the record with a whimper.

Admittedly I need to reserve overall judgment until I've given it a few more listens... But when you've just got your hands on the new dredg and Closure in Moscow, this really doesn't even stand a chance of getting played...

[mymusicismylife]

Although it's a pretty enjoyable record I'm pretty disappointed with it as a whole. I found the whole experience a bit routine and almost lazy (see "Heading for the Sun"). Probably the biggest disappointment was "Burial". Alexisonfire always deliver on the closer but "Burial" just floats along and then ends the record with a whimper.

Admittedly I need to reserve overall judgment until I've given it a few more listens... But when you've just got your hands on the new dredg and Closure in Moscow, this really doesn't even stand a chance of getting played...
That's my main beef with the album, closing with what basically amounts to a City and Colour track (seriously, the instruments, Dallas, everything just sounds like it came off of Bring Me Your Love) just seems pretty weak compared to Pulmonary Archery, Happiness by the Kilowatt, and Rough Hands.

Although. I've had no problem with giving it a lot of spins. I've had Dredg and Closure in Moscow a while now. Getting The Dear Hunter today though, so that could change.

[toxic_freak]

Loving this album it finally arrived today!

[jtjt43]

I enjoyed Crisis, and don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some people make out, but Old Corws/Young Cardinals is far far better. Such a good album.

[fadedmemories]

Dallas voice keeps on getting better.

[MurderByDan]

Love this album.

[Mattylikesfilms]

What was wrong with crisis?

[maker_break]

What was wrong with crisis?
While it had some really great standouts, there were quite a few tracks on Crisis that just felt a bit like filler. Definitely the weakest AoF album, IMO.

Really great review though, Drew. I agree 100%.

[J.Dick]

I really love this album but I disagree with your assessment of Crisis. I think that every record that they have done has been better than the one before as opposed to many other bands who start on a high note and get worse as time goes on.
Alexisonfire is like wine...better with age.

[ambiguous.dude]

I really love this album, 3 singers is so a good thing. I love that Wade sings on a lot of songs, his voice is really powerful.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

I haven't really paid attention to this band after the first album, but after reading this I'm definitely gonna check this one out.

[ACA]

Love the kids at the shows who scream for .44 Caliber over and over.

Good thing the band hasn't recorded any songs in the eight years since!

[Drew Beringer]

What was wrong with crisis?
IMO I thought it was awful.

[roche]

Anything Dallas touches is pure gold

[Chemical Love]

I don't know how I feel about this yet.

[Bloodsucker II]

I'm glad to see this got a good review. I wasn't too fond of Crisis either except for a few songs(Rough Hands is amazing).

[FaceLixeMurder]

Good stuff

[yellowhouse]

Members of Alexisonfire also play in Fucked Up? Huh.

[Drew Beringer]

Members of Alexisonfire also play in Fucked Up? Huh.
George has played bass occasionally for the band, but I edited it out to stop confusing people.

[Cheesus]

I'm glad to see this got a good review. I wasn't too fond of Crisis either except for a few songs(Rough Hands is amazing).
You do not lie to me

[sweepthenation]

Good review, I'll have to pick this up

[ZachMadeMeOdd]

This album is great but I can't believe you didn't enjoy Crisis. Maybe it's just the fact that me being a huge fan of alexisonfire that I like anything they make but really they have the talent to put out a new different sound each cd. I admit crisis has their weakest points in some songs but tracks like Rough Hands and Boiled Frogs I feel are songs I can't even compare to anything else.

Still I think Watch Out! is their best.

[Bloodsucker II]

You do not lie to me
wat

[S9Dallasoz]

Ma-ma-ma-midnight regulations.

Surprised at how much I enjoyed this album.

[RickRoll]

Ma-ma-ma-midnight regulations.

Surprised at how much I enjoyed this album.

I'm surprised too. I really didn't like Crisis after proclaiming AOF my favorite band shortly before it came out. I loved s/t and Watch Out!(which to me is still their best but given some time I could see OC/YC passing it) but Crisis was majorly disappointing despite TCBAITW being on it, which I think is their best song to date.

Great album, this one. I'm excited to pick it up and get a bit more into it.

[Loch_Doun]

Midnight Regulations is a hot track.

[yellowhouse]

George has played bass occasionally for the band, but I edited it out to stop confusing people.
Oh. That's really cool though, I love Fucked Up!

[PunkDrums182]

Good review, I like the album but I don't think it's gonna top the self-titled for me. Maybe Watch Out! though, we'll see.

[boredstiff]

Really, really good review.

I, like some of the other commenters, don't really get the Crisis hate, though. While I think this is a definite improvement, I don't think it's that far removed from the previous album.

Anyway, this is a great album. Not sure if I'm ready to call it the best album they've ever done, but it's definitely my favourite right now. I can't stop listening to it. "The Northern" is just fantastic. I can't wait to see some of this stuff live (though I might have to, since I missed the St. Catherine's show and aren't sure about Warped).

[WhoaWhoIsThis]

Ma-ma-ma-midnight regulations.
Haha. Yes! I love that song,and that part.

[CokeorPepsi]

Definitely buying this later today.

[InBetweenAisles]

This was a great review! I really enjoyed the album as well.

[carramrod2005]

Dallas sounds amazing on this! Great review Drew

[prettymucharobo]

The album definitely had to grow on me, but now that it has, I really enjoy it. Great review.

[Goat01]

Good stuff, Drew. This record was a great pleasant surprise.

Great: Yes.
Pleasant: Yes.
Surprise: Not so much.
I expected this album to rule.
Awesome record.

[texasuckfest]

eh

[Zack Haughton]

Crisis wasn't that bad
Great review, great album

[fftsjason]

this could be anywhere in the world and we are the sound are amazing songs, period.

[dubblemuffin]

You know, that review convinced me. I'm gonna pick this one up.

[NFG4ever]

fuxking love this album, gooood review.

[Clark]

I'm not sure how much I like this album yet. I can't see myself ever thinking it's better than Watch Out!, though. And I still don't understand the Crisis hate on this site (in my opinion, the only bad song on it is "You Burn First").

[liquideasy]

Wow. I've picked it up, but I haven't listened to it yet. If it's as good as you say it is....damn...

[J.Dick]

Sons of Priviledge rules.

[whataclush]

only album released in 09, that wasnt crap.

[mht]

George plays in a side project with members of Fucked Up and provided guest vocals on Hidden World. He's never actually played an instrument with Fucked Up though or was ever IN the band like say a Ben Cook is.

[littlebeav]

Just curious why you had so many positive things to say, and in some places subjectively state supremacy through the flavor of words you chose to use, yet only give the album an 85%? I'm not hating, and I haven't heard the album, just curious what it was about Dallas' voice being the "best" or the entire last paragraph of the review that doesn't garner a higher score. Basically your wording assumes this record to be a solid A release when it fact its a middle of the pack B. I can think of several artists who have received much higher scores on bigger letdown albums.

Response?

[denissuxx]

well written

[HometownHero]

only album released in 09, that wasnt crap.
Fool

[relaxrelapse830]

I love this album. I've never been into any of their other stuff, but I think that may be because I've only really listened to Crisis. I need to check out their other stuff. But anyway, the art for this album is amazing. I really need to pick this up.

[aoftbsten]

My only complaint with this review is that theirs no mention of Born and Raised. Amazing song, one of their best in my opinion.

[popdisaster00]

I would so quickly go gay for Dallas Green.

[popdisaster00]

Just curious why you had so many positive things to say, and in some places subjectively state supremacy through the flavor of words you chose to use, yet only give the album an 85%? I'm not hating, and I haven't heard the album, just curious what it was about Dallas' voice being the "best" or the entire last paragraph of the review that doesn't garner a higher score. Basically your wording assumes this record to be a solid A release when it fact its a middle of the pack B. I can think of several artists who have received much higher scores on bigger letdown albums.

Response?
If every really good release got a 95% or better, then the reviews would be pointless. This album probably won't go down as one of the best pieces of work to ever come out of this scene, but I hope that any review on here that gets 95 or better will.

[DanielJames]

I listened through this album once and haven't listened to it since. It just didn't grab my attention. Maybe if I listen through it a couple more times.

[gladnads]

need to get home and pick it up.

[ohstumbleine]

Dallas Green has such an awesome voice. Love to hear him in anything.
agreed.

[myplasticyou]

i may be in the minority, but Watch Out! is my fav alexisonfire album. after reading this review i'll have to check this one out too

[Poochemist]

Haha, well Crisis is still my favorite of theirs... I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

[aoftbsten]

i may be in the minority, but Watch Out! is my fav alexisonfire album. after reading this review i'll have to check this one out too
Watch Out! is definitely their best. One of my favorite albums of all time.

[WTHMTH]

Man I think Crisis is incredible.. It's my favorite by them

[Rob Hrx]

Man I loved Crisis - so I'm not sure where that'll put me with this one. Literally about to spin it for the first time now. Pretty sure it will be awesome though.

[chelseaxsmilexD]

i saw this at hot topic as was nervous to buy it, so i bought plagues instead. crisis be damned! except boiled frogs.

[jwoody]

didn't like this one....and I'm gonna say that this will most likely be their last.

[chelseaxsmilexD]

Man I think Crisis is incredible.. It's my favorite by them
i forget which song ruined it for me, but it slowed down the momentum of the album and the closer should have been different. I think it would have worked better as an EP, the first five songs and then Crisis as the closer.

[chelseaxsmilexD]

didn't like this one....and I'm gonna say that this will most likely be their last.
i'm surprised that they even got 4 albums out in the first place, so i'm kinda with you. They're like FATA. Two good albums, a bad one, a great one, end.

[superBMRuth]

Oh, and these guys are the reason I'm going to Warped Tour, no matter who else may be stinking up the tour. Give me some Alexisonfire and I'm happy.
this

[laurenleif]

it took me a couple listens, but i am really liking this album. i think the cd starts off really strong, but the only song i can't stand, though, is accept crime.

[chelseaxsmilexD]

Born And Raised is being played on Music Choice Alternative... eek!!!!!

[Mattylikesfilms]

While it had some really great standouts, there were quite a few tracks on Crisis that just felt a bit like filler. Definitely the weakest AoF album, IMO.

Really great review though, Drew. I agree 100%.

hmmmmm agree to disagree buddy


IMO I thought it was awful.


oh, i loved about 70% of the album personally. i think the new album is ehhh itll grow on me im sure....

[Analog Rebellion]

What was wrong with crisis?
It was everything Watch Out! wasn't. For me, that was a very bad thing. For others, that might have been a good thing.

[Brett3]

Great review. Really like this.

[Christian Otte]

I still fail to see what was wrong with Crisis - this review from Allmusic expresses my sentiments pretty well: http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wcfpxqldldde

[DejaNew]

Great review. I definitely agree with it. Great fuckin album.

[YouSmellExcited]

no "sounds like/recommended bands:" ?

[live4music]

Nice, that is spot on! I can't stop listening to this record. My favorite of '09 so far.

[maker_break]

no "sounds like/recommended bands:" ?
You come up with one. Go ahead. Try it.

[Heart-A-Tact]

I didn't see myself liking this, but I really like it.

[maker_break]

I didn't see myself liking this, but I really like it.
Yeah. I didn't think I'd dig it as much as older AoF, but it really grows on you.

[TheRealJohnOC]

Crisis wasn't all THAT bad but I completely agree it had some boring parts (You burn first is a good example) This cd has alot more maturity and just the triple threat of vocals from George/Dallas/Wade go extremely well! Great review dude!

[YouSmellExcited]

You come up with one. Go ahead. Try it.
doesn't sound like much else..except Alexisonfire, just..refined

[TotalCollapse]

This album is great. At first I wasn't sure if I would like the new style, but it has grown on me a lot.

[brenByah]

I would kill for Dallas Green's voice.

[Romancebled]

great review. i love this album.

[PopPunkMatt]

Waiting to get some money so I can afford this.
I don't think crisis was their best effort. But with tracks such as Boiled Frogs, This Could BAITW, Rough Hands and To A Friend, It's hard for me to write it off.

[PopPunkMatt]

You come up with one. Go ahead. Try it.
A cross between Closure in Moscow, In Fear and Faith and Underoath? Only 100x better than the latter two?

[brenByah]

A cross between Closure in Moscow, In Fear and Faith and Underoath? Only 100x better than the latter two?
Better than In Fear and Faith yes, Underoath, I'd say no.

[Max_123]

Hmm I don't see what's so bad about Crisis?
It's my favorite AOF album actually, I've listened to this new one a few times but I can't really find a standout track, it's a good cd nonetheless just nothing standouts

[ziviriky]

I think that the equal vision's Alexisonfire was better!!!

[Kbm600]

Dallas Green has such an awesome voice. Love to hear him in anything.
This. I don't care what he plays in, his voice draws me regardless.


Great review, the best I've personally seen from you Drew.

[SmokieB.High]

Have not checked out this one yet but musically in my opinion nothing will top thier self-titled

[RickRoll]

Better than In Fear and Faith yes, Underoath, I'd say no.
AOF NOT better than Underoath?

You be crazy, son.

[boredstiff]

AOF and Underoath aren't really comparable, IMO.

I think AOF is a great, consistent band. Underoath... well, I won't say anything.

[littlebeav]

If every really good release got a 95% or better, then the reviews would be pointless. This album probably won't go down as one of the best pieces of work to ever come out of this scene, but I hope that any review on here that gets 95 or better will.
A) Are you following me? lol
and B), while I understand that, I guess I just wanted the review to reflect the score more accurately and vice versa. Typically our reviewers do this, so I was a little confused on this one.

Here's to wondering if Drew responds.

[maker_break]

AOF and Underoath aren't really comparable, IMO.

I think AOF is a great, consistent band. Underoath... well, I won't say anything.
This. While a longtime fan of Underoath... I think they're kinda losing it. Lost in the Sound of Separation was just kinda... boring IMO. Plus, I liked Underoath much better when Dallas was vocalist anyway. Spencer is nowhere near as good as Dallas. They were retarded for kicking Dallas out of the band. They went from being a pretty decent metal band to a typical hardcore scene band.

[brenByah]

AOF and Underoath aren't really comparable, IMO.

I think AOF is a great, consistent band. Underoath... well, I won't say anything.
We'll just have to agree to disagree, I think UO is more consistent. This AOF album is great though.

[PopPunkMatt]

We'll just have to agree to disagree, I think UO is more consistent. This AOF album is great though.
If AOF had never released Crisis. Would you be saying that? Not out of criticism, just a question in need of an answer.

[brenByah]

If AOF had never released Crisis. Would you be saying that? Not out of criticism, just a question in need of an answer.
Yes, that's just my personal preference. I think every single UO album has been better than their last. Everytime they seem to raise the bar when I don't think they could possibly get any better. I love AOF, I'm just a bigger UO fan.

[PopPunkMatt]

Yes, that's just my personal preference. I think every single UO album has been better than their last. Everytime they seem to raise the bar when I don't think they could possibly get any better. I love AOF, I'm just a bigger UO fan.
Fair call. I'm also a huge underoath fan. I didn't feel that LITSOS had the "oomph" of previous attempts.

[deanster321]

I really enjoy this album.

[jesse_hitz]

Nice review and the album is great, everybody should definitely go pick it up. It took me a little bit to get use to it but now I love it.

[MorningStar10]

great review, Crisis was hyped up but i feel this album is alot more complete than the simple ''Scream-Sing-Scream-Sing'' structure of Crisis.

[Cheesus]

This. While a longtime fan of Underoath... I think they're kinda losing it. Lost in the Sound of Separation was just kinda... boring IMO. Plus, I liked Underoath much better when Dallas was vocalist anyway. Spencer is nowhere near as good as Dallas. They were retarded for kicking Dallas out of the band. They went from being a pretty decent metal band to a typical hardcore scene band.
lol this is funny

[maker_break]

lol this is funny
What do you mean by "funny?" Are you in the "OMFG Spencer is just soooo amazing!" boat? Because most people are. But whatever. It's just my opinion. I like Dallas much more. It's just the way I feel. Underoath was much, much heavier before They're Only Chasing Safety came out. I liked them more back then. You can't deny they've turned into a pretty mainstream "scene" band. They weren't like that before.

[brenByah]

What do you mean by "funny?" Are you in the "OMFG Spencer is just soooo amazing!" boat? Because most people are. But whatever. It's just my opinion. I like Dallas much more. It's just the way I feel. Underoath was much, much heavier before They're Only Chasing Safety came out. I liked them more back then. You can't deny they've turned into a pretty mainstream "scene" band. They weren't like that before.
Their last record's just has heavy. They gained far more depth after Dallas left. The songs were more intricate and developed.

[maker_break]

Their last record's just has heavy. They gained far more depth after Dallas left. The songs were more intricate and developed.
You mean Aaron sings more? Yeah... deep. Never heard a band with both harsh and clean vocals before. How... groundbreaking.

[brenByah]

You mean Aaron sings more? Yeah... deep. Never heard a band with both harsh and clean vocals before. How... groundbreaking.
No, I wasn't speaking of Aaron, they're miles better musically as well. The Changing of Times pales in comparison. What's deep or groundbreaking about that record? Nothing.

[maker_break]

No, I wasn't speaking of Aaron, they're miles better musically as well. The Changing of Times pales in comparison. What's deep or groundbreaking about that record? Nothing.
Well, The Changing of Times happens to be my favorite Underoath album. You have your opinion, I have mine. End of story.

[brenByah]

Well, The Changing of Times happens to be my favorite Underoath album. You have your opinion, I have mine. End of story.
That's fine. I'm not trying to change your opinion. I just think it's crazy to say that UO records past The Changing of Times aren't more intricate and indepth than that record. To me they've quite clearly progressed.

[maker_break]

That's fine. I'm not trying to change your opinion. I just think it's crazy to say that UO records past The Changing of Times aren't more intricate and indepth than that record. To me they've quite clearly progressed.
Oh, I won't argue that point. It's definitely a fact they have progressed as you say. That doesn't necessarily make me like them more.

For example, anyone would agree that Brand New has progressed as a band with each new release. The Devil and God was a big step in a new direction, but it's my least favorite record by the band. Just because a band is making progression does not always make them a better band. Progression can alienate a lot of fans. Some people don't like their favorite band to change. Panic at the Disco totally changed with Pretty, Odd. A lot of people hated it. Then again, quite a few loved it. It's all really just a matter of opinion.

Most people don't like Green Day's new stuff. I for one, like it. But I definitely like their older music more. Not only does it sound better to me, it just brings back a lot of nostalgia.

Different people have different reasons for liking the music they like. I'm not the type that goes looking for the best produced and most technical music out there. That's just not my thing.

[brenByah]

Oh, I won't argue that point. It's definitely a fact they have progressed as you say. That doesn't necessarily make me like them more.

For example, anyone would agree that Brand New has progressed as a band with each new release. The Devil and God was a big step in a new direction, but it's my least favorite record by the band. Just because a band is making progression does not always make them a better band. Progression can alienate a lot of fans. Some people don't like their favorite band to change. Panic at the Disco totally changed with Pretty, Odd. A lot of people hated it. Then again, quite a few loved it. It's all really just a matter of opinion.

Most people don't like Green Day's new stuff. I for one, like it. But I definitely like their older music more. Not only does it sound better to me, it just brings back a lot of nostalgia.

Different people have different reasons for liking the music they like. I'm not the type that goes looking for the best produced and most technical music out there. That's just not my thing.
Completely understandable.

[Greg.Kushlan]

Young Cardinals wound up growing on me so I was interested in seeing where this album went. I liked what I heard and picked the album up last Wednesday, I think it's probably my second favorite after Watch Out!

[maker_break]

Young Cardinals wound up growing on me so I was interested in seeing where this album went. I liked what I heard and picked the album up last Wednesday, I think it's probably my second favorite after Watch Out!
I pretty much feel the same. Though there are a few songs from the self titled album that are among my favorites, Watch Out is definitely my favorite album. It's just got the perfect blend of heavy and soft. I think both Dallas and George's vocals are near perfect on that album.

I'm digging the new album though. It's was a huge change, but it has grown on me.

[boredstiff]

I'm digging the new album though. It's was a huge change, but it has grown on me.

As I've said before, I don't think it's THAT big a change. But yeah, this album is still growing on me. It's crazy - I liked the album when I first heard it, but repeated listens make it better and better. I love all but one song, and my favourite keeps changing. Right now, strangely enough, "Young Cardinals" might be my favourite song on there. And that's the one I've heard the most, since it was released early as a single.

[guill89]

when i got the album, I wasn't so sure about my choice, I've only heard Young Cardinals one time and I wasn't a big fan.

But after a couple of listen, I have to say that this is a great album. And that I'm liking it more than Crysis.

New vocal is weird, but I'm getting used to.

[maker_break]

As I've said before, I don't think it's THAT big a change. But yeah, this album is still growing on me. It's crazy - I liked the album when I first heard it, but repeated listens make it better and better. I love all but one song, and my favourite keeps changing. Right now, strangely enough, "Young Cardinals" might be my favourite song on there. And that's the one I've heard the most, since it was released early as a single.
Honestly, I got a little tired of Young Cardinals. Only because I listened to it endlessly after the single aired and before the album actually dropped. It's a really good song, but I'm trying to not listen to it so much because I don't want to kill it for myself. I think my favorite track as of now is The Northern.

What is the one song you don't love? Just curious.

[TommyCheeks]

great album personal favourite is born and raised :)

[brenByah]

My favorite at the moment is "Sons of Privilege," but that could change. Great record.

[Cheesus]

great album personal favourite is born and raised :)
Same... when Dallas sings "I've lost all direction. I've lost all my direction" it kills me... just sooo good

[brenByah]

The more Dallas Green sings the better, I'd do anything for his voice.

[StartAngry&Mad]

Went into the store to buy it today, carried it around until I stumbled upon a vinyl copy of The Illusion of Safety, so I'll have to withhold judgement until my next trip back (ya, I know, should've bought both)

[FiveIronFlores]

At first I really wasn't feeling this album but after listening a couple of times their style really comes through and I can tell this is a solid album. It definitely grows on ya!

[maker_break]

Went into the store to buy it today, carried it around until I stumbled upon a vinyl copy of The Illusion of Safety, so I'll have to withhold judgement until my next trip back (ya, I know, should've bought both)
Oh, yeah... that would have been a tough call...

[Cheesus]

At first I really wasn't feeling this album but after listening a couple of times their style really comes through and I can tell this is a solid album. It definitely grows on ya!
so true. cant go wrong with dallas... lead screamer, mehhhh

[boredstiff]

It really seems like this album grows on people.

[zubinmoosa]

Nice review Drew

[Crank]

It really seems like this album grows on people.
It seems like all of their albums seem to grow on people haha. I really didn't like any of their stuff the first time I listened but now I'm in love with almost all of it. Including this album... Nice review

[splattered]

I've been a fan of these guys for awhile and i dug Crisis though i wasnt immediately blown away by it as i was their earlier work. Just like Crisis... this album had to grown on me a little, but grow on me it did. I listen to it more and more... and each time i listen to it a little louder. I love it. Good stuff.

[StartAngry&Mad]

Oh, yeah... that would have been a tough call...
sarcasm?

[StartAngry&Mad]

I'm definately loving the album after only a few listens; they've done such a better job layering vocals compared to Crisis, Dallas I thought was a wasted asset when lead vocals were given to Wade and on this I feel's there's a better balance
I'm also wondering if some people's complaints about George are because they're confusing Wade's screaming as his? (Not saying that I don't hear a gruffer hardcore style in some songs) Personally I'm stoked they've turned down the production/distortion of George's vocals from the last 2 albums

[maker_break]

sarcasm?
Not at all. Both bands definitely fall into my favorites category. I would like to have an Illusion of Safety vinyl too. I bought one of those USB turntables. They're neat because you can record your vinyl and convert them to MP3's. The only thing that can get a little annoying is splitting up tracks.

[dat scene kid]

Took a little bit for me to get into this but now I'm completely hooked. One of my favorite releases of the year. "Young Cardinals" and "The Northern" are both awesome, but for me "Born and Raised" is one of the best songs I've heard in awhile.

Great review, although I'm bummed "Born and Raised" didn't get a shout out.

[maker_break]

Took a little bit for me to get into this but now I'm completely hooked. One of my favorite releases of the year. "Young Cardinals" and "The Northern" are both awesome, but for me "Born and Raised" is one of the best songs I've heard in awhile.

Great review, although I'm bummed "Born and Raised" didn't get a shout out.
Born and Raised is a great track. Definitely one of my favorites from the album. I'd have to say The Northern is the best track IMO.

[PomonaForEmpusa]

i still think Watch Out is their best. followed by this, than the self-titled.

Crisis while last did have some really good songs on it.

[chella182]

So I just gave this a listen, and I dunno... I like the music for the most part, I just can't seem to get into it and I really like I feel like I'm missing something 'cause it seems to be such a popular album. I don't mind the single too much, and Emerald Street is a tuune, but after that I just felt like I wanted to stop listening; I was fairly bored, so I certainly didn't wanna listen to Burial. That being said, the last track's a tuune too.
Overall it's alright, and I probably will listen again, but it's not going to turn into one of my favourites.

Then again, I loved Crisis. Alexisonfire aren't my "usual" type of band; I just love songs like This Could Be Anywhere In the World and Boiled Frogs 'cause they remind me of good times when I was a bit younger.

[inthemidst]

I really don't like George's new vocal delivery. It sounds painful; my ears hurt just from listening to it. Other than that, it's a pretty good album. The riffs are well implemented, and aren't the least bit repetitive, the melodies are prided by variable time signatures, I love the contrasting vocals between Wade and Dallas, also. There's no formula for this collaboration, no genre-defying moments, just rocking out. I like it.

[XxFxck_YouxX]

<3

[kevinAIWW]

Honestly I thought that this album deserves an A. The balance between the grungy lead vocalist, whose name I can't recall. And the ever so talented Dallas Green, is a clash to be reckoned with. So the crappy punk edge of this band is made up for in the balance by Dallas' indie efforts and excellent guitar playing skills.

[BornToQuit]

Old Crows/Young Cardinals is a gem i agree.
I had to listen to the album 2, maybe 3 times before getting into it. I was too surprise by George new singing style. Now, it's probably my album of year so far.

[cbg2113]

I found this review because stylistically OC/YC is most like Crisis than any other previous Alexisonfire album. I love Crisis and Old Crows/Young Cardinals

[kevinAIWW]

Dallas..... I'd bang him.

[tbagurdrumset94]

I was actually a little disappointed at first, but multiple listenings have made me happier.