For those who think Middle Easterners Aren't Terrorists [Archive]

Skunky Buds

03/21/03, 11:13 AM

oh wow, come on now, "almost all terrorists are middle eastern", why would you say something like that man, because you are completely wrong dude. yes, their are terorists there, but there are terrorists everywhere. You see, since the USA unfairly imposes there selves on every other countries business they are hated. its not just the middle eaastern countries either, there is a great deal of dislike for them in N. Korea, A very large portion of Europe, china...list goes on.
Now, you see the last 50 or so terrorists arrested by the FBI- an american institution - were middle eaastern. Thats because these people really hate your country, so they would plan attacks on it. There are way more terrorists then those of the middle east my i remind you, have you ever heard of a little country called ireland???? they have been blowing the shit out of each other for decades. Another example, isreal and palistine, them? no..maybe..just wondering. Well they are daily setting explosives in markets,universities, cafes, ect.
So,obviously plenty of other exmaples out there, your own country has terrorists, militant groups, hell my country has plenty of terroist within its borders, the point is you cant say that a vast majority of terrorists are muslim/middle eastern

bossydacow

03/21/03, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by WithStamin
"No, but almost all terrorists are Muslim."

so almost white supremesists are White Anglo Saxon Protestants.

Poetic Silver

03/21/03, 11:36 AM

All Duetsche are NAZIS?
All Cubans are communists?
All americans are bullies?
All punks smoke pot?
All africans steal shit?
All Isrealites are Jews?
All punks hate jocks?

Must I go on?

-Ag

Justin_stacy

03/21/03, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by bossydacow
so almost white supremesists are White Anglo Saxon Protestants.

to be in the kkk you have to be.

yeat182

03/21/03, 12:25 PM

he made a generalization , it doesn't mean that every muslim is a terrorist, or that every terrorist is a muslim, it means that many of terrorists are muslim, just like many (if not all) memebers of the KKK are WASP's. its a gereralization, take it for what it is.

Matthew

03/21/03, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by yeat182
he made a generalization , it doesn't mean that every muslim is a terrorist, or that every terrorist is a muslim, it means that many of terrorists are muslim, just like many (if not all) memebers of the KKK are WASP's. its a gereralization, take it for what it is.

But it was an unnecesary generalization. The only thing it could possibly accomplish is to make people suspicious of innocent people because of their race. It's because of fucks like him that people stereotype you conservatives as being racist, and that mosques liek the one in my town have to be shut down fo fear of attack from bigoted rednecks.

WithStamin

03/21/03, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Poetic Silver
All Duetsche are NAZIS?
All Cubans are communists?
All americans are bullies?
All punks smoke pot?
All africans steal shit?
All Isrealites are Jews?
All punks hate jocks?

Must I go on?

-Ag
All Cubans are communists?
No.
All americans are bullies?
No.
All punks smoke pot?
No.
All africans steal shit?
No.
All Isrealites are Jews?
Well.. the vast majority.
All punks hate jocks?
No.

I never said that all muslims are terrorists. Just open your eyes. Every single one of the 9-11 hijackers were young, Arab, Muslim men. It is ignorant to deny that there is a pattern. It is harmful to not react to that pattern.

BrandNewRock05

03/21/03, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
But it was an unnecesary generalization. The only thing it could possibly accomplish is to make people suspicious of innocent people because of their race. It's because of fucks like him that people stereotype you conservatives as being racist, and that mosques liek the one in my town have to be shut down fo fear of attack from bigoted rednecks.
It IS necesary. When it comes down to my safety and the safety of others, feelings dont matter. The fact is that many Arabs are terrorists. It is a generalization, yes, but for safety's sake it is necesary. Its like having a smoke detector in your house. You probably wont have a fire in your house, but you keep it around JUST IN CASE.

kidinthecorner

03/21/03, 04:24 PM

It IS necessary. If you're boarding a plane, who would you rather the security double check? The 90-yo white lady or a 23-yo Arab? Racial profiling is necessary and I'm sorry for anyone that is inconvienienced, but for the safety of everyone, it needs to happen.

bigweener

03/22/03, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
The fact is that many Arabs are terrorists.

well your a bloody moron. horribly racist comment. there are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of Arabs on this earth and many of them are infact NOT terrorists, dumbass. Why must some people have no brain. But ya racial profiling would help, but come on, grow up, think a little, and dont make stupid comments.

evil zach

03/23/03, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by kidinthecorner
It IS necessary. If you're boarding a plane, who would you rather the security double check? The 90-yo white lady or a 23-yo Arab? Racial profiling is necessary and I'm sorry for anyone that is inconvienienced, but for the safety of everyone, it needs to happen.
Whats to stop terrorist organizations from finding a non-arab looking person to blow up an air plan?
Now I'm going list off as many non-arab terrorist organiations has I can think off
IRA
KKK
Heritage front
FLQ
Aryan Nation
Various Pro-life organizations
Theres alot more, and I can garuntee that that they don't have all arab members

yeat182

03/23/03, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by evil zach
Whats to stop terrorist organizations from finding a non-arab looking person to blow up an air plan?
Now I'm going list off as many non-arab terrorist organiations has I can think off
IRA
KKK
Heritage front
FLQ
Aryan Nation
Various Pro-life organizations
Theres alot more, and I can garuntee that that they don't have all arab members

but i don't think any of those groups have ever hijacked a plane...i could be wrong.

the point about screening arab/muslim looking people is that of all the groups of terrorists out to destroy the US, almost all of them are arab/muslim, they should obviously be the ones who are under the most scrutiny. it isn't about hurting peoples feelings, its about preventing deaths.

BrandNewRock05

03/23/03, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by yeat182
but i don't think any of those groups have ever hijacked a plane...i could be wrong.

the point about screening arab/muslim looking people is that of all the groups of terrorists out to destroy the US, almost all of them are arab/muslim, they should obviously be the ones who are under the most scrutiny. it isn't about hurting peoples feelings, its about preventing deaths.
well said, just like when we put japanese in interment camps in the 40's, becuase they crashed planes into our boats.

The Nephilm

03/23/03, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
well said, just like when we put japanese in interment camps in the 40's, becuase they crashed planes into our boats.

most ill-informed comment I have ever read

should we put all the muslims into camps during the gulf war then?

your stupidity continues to draw me back here.

BrandNewRock05

03/23/03, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by The Nephilm
most ill-informed comment I have ever read

should we put all the muslims into camps during the gulf war then?

your stupidity continues to draw me back here.
what was wrong with the camps

EmoMoose86

03/23/03, 09:50 AM

I do take offence with the statement of "most arabs are terrorists" and such.

You must sit back and think of the numbers you have brought forth in the statement.

You're saying that most of the 60 million Arabs - and the good 300 million muslims are terrorists?!

Its like saying --- "Most Americans are against the war- and therefore do antiwar protests."

Looking at that you can say that there are 280 million Americans- and probably (around the US) around 400,000 protesters.

Now is that really "most Americans?"

Some Arabs are terrorists yes (1500? tops?)- but the truth is most Arabs like the USA.

And I also find that remark racist though you may have not meant it to be that way

Yes 9/11 --- those were arabs -- muslims-- BUT- Muslims are not the only terrorists in this world

Justin_stacy

03/23/03, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
well said, just like when we put japanese in interment camps in the 40's, becuase they crashed planes into our boats.

Japanesse soliders crashed planes into boats not AMERICAN citizens of japaneses decent.
The internment camps were just another great thing by FDR.

The Nephilm

03/23/03, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
what was wrong with the camps

I swear if I had my way you would be strapped to one of those bombs your "president" is dropping on baghdad.

Alex Djaferis

03/23/03, 11:02 AM

terrorists are terrorists for a reason. And the only reason why the middle east have most of em is cuz they are pissed at the USA for doing things like backing Israel. if the USA does not acknowledge the roots of terrorism...there is no way they will win a war against them

Justin_stacy

03/23/03, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by PeeDster
terrorists are terrorists for a reason. And the only reason why the middle east have most of em is cuz they are pissed at the USA for doing things like backing Israel. if the USA does not acknowledge the roots of terrorism...there is no way they will win a war against them

I think we have acknowledge the fact that arabs hate jews, and were doing our best to do something about it, but we will not turn our back on israel to get peace in the middle east.

Another reason there so much terrorist in the ME, is that those in charge purposly keep there people uneducated and poor, the wealth of oil is not spread out among the people, but keep in the hands of kings nad princes.

The Nephilm

03/23/03, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
I think we have acknowledge the fact that arabs hate jews, and were doing our best to do something about it, but we will not turn our back on israel to get peace in the middle east.

Another reason there so much terrorist in the ME, is that those in charge purposly keep there people uneducated and poor, the wealth of oil is not spread out among the people, but keep in the hands of kings nad princes.

We do our best to make palestinians hate jews by allowing Isreal to murder innocent palestinians daily, take their land, and ignore their cries for help.

And we help keep those who controll the oil supply in charge, because if we didn't we wouldn't be able to afford our $100,000 Hummer 2 that get 8 Iraq's per gallon. And it doesn't just happen in the middle east. The US does it's best to ruin third world economies around the globe to ensure cheap labor (Nike, levis, GMC) and to get resources cheap (oil, diamonds etc.)

Alex Djaferis

03/23/03, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
I think we have acknowledge the fact that arabs hate jews, and were doing our best to do something about it, but we will not turn our back on israel to get peace in the middle east.

Another reason there so much terrorist in the ME, is that those in charge purposly keep there people uneducated and poor, the wealth of oil is not spread out among the people, but keep in the hands of kings nad princes.

yeah...however it goes back to the fact that, terrorism wont stop in the ME unless the USA starts putting equal pressure on israel to withdraw from west bank, golan heights, gaza strip etc...i know ultimately its Israels decision. but by always giving PM Sharon the free go ahead, its going to cause terror.

BrandNewRock05

03/23/03, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by The Nephilm
I swear if I had my way you would be strapped to one of those bombs your "president" is dropping on baghdad.
OK, strapping me on a bomb is humane, but killing criminals isnt, you are one dumbass. My god, you are stupid.

BrandNewRock05

03/23/03, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by The Nephilm

And we help keep those who controll the oil supply in charge, because if we didn't we wouldn't be able to afford our $100,000 Hummer 2 that get 8 Iraq's per gallon. And it doesn't just happen in the middle east. The US does it's best to ruin third world economies around the globe to ensure cheap labor (Nike, levis, GMC) and to get resources cheap (oil, diamonds etc.)
8 Iraqi's to the gallon. First of all you are stupid, we dont kill Iraqis for oil, we are liberating their country, we are allowing as many to live as possible, as long as they wave that white flag and dont shoot at our soldiers, they will live. And your "Iraqis to the gallon" doesnt make sense for this reason as well. Someone says "miles to the gallon" or "kilometers to the gallon". So are Iraqis a unit of measurment in distance now? I believe what you are TRYING to say is, a gallon of gas costs 8 Iraqis, which is still bogus, becuase the war ISN'T about oil, fucking dumbass.
"Yeah we are heading down the road going about 60 Iraqis an hour. 2 Iraqis ahead is the store where we buy our groceries at. SLOW DOWN! You're going 6 Iraqis over the speed limit!"

The Nephilm

03/23/03, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
8 Iraqi's to the gallon. First of all you are stupid, we dont kill Iraqis for oil, we are liberating their country, we are allowing as many to live as possible, as long as they wave that white flag and dont shoot at our soldiers, they will live. And your "Iraqis to the gallon" doesnt make sense for this reason as well. Someone says "miles to the gallon" or "kilometers to the gallon". So are Iraqis a unit of measurment in distance now? I believe what you are TRYING to say is, a gallon of gas costs 8 Iraqis, which is still bogus, becuase the war ISN'T about oil, fucking dumbass.
"Yeah we are heading down the road going about 60 Iraqis an hour. 2 Iraqis ahead is the store where we buy our groceries at. SLOW DOWN! You're going 6 Iraqis over the speed limit!"

SAR-MOTHERFUCKING-CASM

I can't help it if you are too stupid to notice the underlying tones in my posts.

BrandNewRock05

03/23/03, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by The Nephilm
SAR-MOTHERFUCKING-CASM

I can't help it if you are too stupid to notice the underlying tones in my posts.
I did touch on that, but next time you are sar-motherfucking-castic, be sure to make sure it all makes sense. Or I will fly the 3000 Iraqis to your house and kick your ass.

The Nephilm

03/23/03, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
I did touch on that, but next time you are sar-motherfucking-castic, be sure to make sure it all makes sense. Or I will fly the 3000 Iraqis to your house and kick your ass.

Yes I am terified of a 15 year old hick who probably couldn't afford the airfare of coming to beat me up.

Threatening people online is about the saddest thing you could possibly do. You win the "moron of the century" award.

BrandNewRock05

03/23/03, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by The Nephilm
Yes I am terified of a 15 year old hick who probably couldn't afford the airfare of coming to beat me up.

Threatening people online is about the saddest thing you could possibly do. You win the "moron of the century" award.
Really, much gratitude for the award. Again falling into your insults when you dont have info to back your stuff up with

Justin_stacy

03/23/03, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by PeeDster
yeah...however it goes back to the fact that, terrorism wont stop in the ME unless the USA starts putting equal pressure on israel to withdraw from west bank, golan heights, gaza strip etc...i know ultimately its Israels decision. but by always giving PM Sharon the free go ahead, its going to cause terror.

It would also help if the palastinans would be allowed to elect a non corrupt leader that would be willing to work with the israelis, instead of one the promotes compromises to the media, but then goes behind close doors and allows/orders terrorist attacks on Jewish communities and purposly striking areas were children will be hit the most.

Also the reason Israel has the areas you spoke of are the fault of Palastinan and Arab aggression.

But i agree Israel needs to stop the settlements as soon as possible, but you cant expect them to do stuff to ease the conflict if the palastinans aren't. (also polls show that 75% of Israel is against the settlements.)

The Nephilm

03/23/03, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Really, much gratitude for the award. Again falling into your insults when you dont have info to back your stuff up with

did you read my post? no?

ok die now ***.

Justin_stacy

03/23/03, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by The Nephilm
did you read my post? no?

ok die now ***.

Man your just egging him on, and hes going to start doing all the shit again that you hate.

BrandNewRock05

03/23/03, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by The Nephilm
did you read my post? no?

ok die now ***.
i read your post already dumbass, no facts jackass

yeat182

03/23/03, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
well said, just like when we put japanese in interment camps in the 40's, becuase they crashed planes into our boats.

i wouldn't go that far. the internment camps aren't an inconvience like getting searched at an airport. i don't agree with the camps, it was dumb. i understand why they did it, but i don't agree with it.

yeat182

03/23/03, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by The Nephilm
We do our best to make palestinians hate jews by allowing Isreal to murder innocent palestinians daily, take their land, and ignore their cries for help.

i agree the Israeli's need to back off of their expansion into palestinian areas, but the palestinians need to take some responsibility as well. if they don't like the way they are being treated, they should rise up and stop the corrupt palestinians from commiting terrorist acts. as long as they do nothing to improve their own situation, things are gonna get worse. they need to give arafat the boot, set up some kind of democratic system were no 1 person can remain in power for so long or with out any limit. arafat is keeping his people opressed just as much as the Israelis.

EviL_ZaiMan

03/25/03, 05:56 AM

I take utter offense to that, all Middle Easterns terrorists, haha you fucking idiot!! Have you seen how been the Middle East is, Islam is a religion that is undertaken by at least almost 2 billion people, so therefore all those 2 billion people are terrorists. Also not all Arabs are Muslim ******. THere are so many Arabs that are dual nationalities, that means that alot of Americans are also half arab. So that generalization is crap and stupid. THe reason there is so many muslim terrorists is because of their compassion for their religion that does not mean that every Arab is bad and is a terrorist. Come over to the Middle East and see how many amazingly nice people are here.

Fucker!!

yeat182

03/25/03, 08:21 AM

he said almost all terrorists are muslim, not that all muslims are terrorists.

your moms hot

03/25/03, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by yeat182
i agree the Israeli's need to back off of their expansion into palestinian areas, but the palestinians need to take some responsibility as well. if they don't like the way they are being treated, they should rise up and stop the corrupt palestinians from commiting terrorist acts. as long as they do nothing to improve their own situation, things are gonna get worse. they need to give arafat the boot, set up some kind of democratic system were no 1 person can remain in power for so long or with out any limit. arafat is keeping his people opressed just as much as the Israelis.
ahhh wouldnt it be great if everyone in the world lived according to our ideals and beliefs?? if everyone rose up against corruption in their governments?? if american culture was spread across the world creating a bunch of little mini malls with gap and mcdonalds??
if only it were that easy...
the palestinians have huge popular support for arafat...which is why hes their leader. the palestinians also support the suicide bombers..which would explain why theyre so prolific and still going on.
you want to place blame?? blame the israeli who killed the prime minister of israel a couple of years ago because he didnt want to make peace with palestine. blame the arab who shot sadat because he was making peace with israel. blame ariel sharon for refusing to stop the building of settlements in palestinian territory. blame arafat for supporting terrorism or whatever. but i dont think its the people of israel or palestines faults. israelis just want to see the bombings stop. palestinians want the israelis out of their territory...and of course eveyrone wants jerusalem.

its fairly obvious that people here generalize TOO much...take it way to far. example..the arabs are terrorist or whatever comment. in fact...most arabs arent terrorists. most terrorists arent even arabs. it just happens that most of the terrorists you see everyday on cnn or fox news channel happen to be arab/muslim. its ignorance and media coverage like that that pisses off these people. its our policies towards israel that causes 19 guys to fly a couple of planes into buildings. and it just fuels the hate..stop the hate. stop the prejudice.

BrandNewRock05

03/25/03, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by your moms hot
ahhh wouldnt it be great if everyone in the world lived according to our ideals and beliefs?? if everyone rose up against corruption in their governments?? if american culture was spread across the world creating a bunch of little mini malls with gap and mcdonalds??
if only it were that easy...
the palestinians have huge popular support for arafat...which is why hes their leader. the palestinians also support the suicide bombers..which would explain why theyre so prolific and still going on.
you want to place blame?? blame the israeli who killed the prime minister of israel a couple of years ago because he didnt want to make peace with palestine. blame the arab who shot sadat because he was making peace with israel. blame ariel sharon for refusing to stop the building of settlements in palestinian territory. blame arafat for supporting terrorism or whatever. but i dont think its the people of israel or palestines faults. israelis just want to see the bombings stop. palestinians want the israelis out of their territory...and of course eveyrone wants jerusalem.

its fairly obvious that people here generalize TOO much...take it way to far. example..the arabs are terrorist or whatever comment. in fact...most arabs arent terrorists. most terrorists arent even arabs. it just happens that most of the terrorists you see everyday on cnn or fox news channel happen to be arab/muslim. its ignorance and media coverage like that that pisses off these people. its our policies towards israel that causes 19 guys to fly a couple of planes into buildings. and it just fuels the hate..stop the hate. stop the prejudice.
Recently what has been the largest race of terrorists? Arabs and Muslims. Lets start with 9/11. Muslims. Beltway Sniper? Muslim. Dirty bomb guy that they want for quesioning? Muslim. All those people recently arrested for planning/funding 9/11? Muslim. All of those terror attacks in Isreal? Muslims. Yes there have been recent cases of a Jew doing something, but for the most part, can you honestly tell me that the majority of terrorist actions have not been muslim/arab?

The Nephilm

03/25/03, 11:44 AM

I would just like to point out that Isrealis are terrorists, as far as their treatment of the Palestinians are concerned.

savestheglory

03/25/03, 12:28 PM

calm down guys, 99% of the time brandnewrock is right on the money with his views.. so ease off him a little, yeah that was kind of a generalization

yeat182

03/25/03, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by your moms hot

if only it were that easy...
the palestinians have huge popular support for arafat...which is why hes their leader. the palestinians also support the suicide bombers..which would explain why theyre so prolific and still going on.

if the people support arafat and suicide bombers then they are as guilty for the situation as arafat and israel.

your moms hot

03/26/03, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by yeat182
if the people support arafat and suicide bombers then they are as guilty for the situation as arafat and israel.
then so are the israelis who support sharon.

so lets just bomb the whole continent and solve all our problems..

yeat182

03/26/03, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by your moms hot
then so are the israelis who support sharon.

so lets just bomb the whole continent and solve all our problems..

i said "...and israel".

Fobika!

03/26/03, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Recently what has been the largest race of terrorists? Arabs and Muslims. Lets start with 9/11. Muslims. Beltway Sniper? Muslim. Dirty bomb guy that they want for quesioning? Muslim. All those people recently arrested for planning/funding 9/11? Muslim. All of those terror attacks in Isreal? Muslims. Yes there have been recent cases of a Jew doing something, but for the most part, can you honestly tell me that the majority of terrorist actions have not been muslim/arab?

i still don't understand what your thick head is trying to convey. Are you trying to say that Muslims are BORN terrorists? Why would you say that most terrorists are Muslim, when in fact they are not. Just because recent events have occured in/from the middle east, does not mean that is how it has always been. Again, look at the KKK? I think you've been eating one too many paint-chips.

yeat182

03/26/03, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Krammit
i still don't understand what your thick head is trying to convey. Are you trying to say that Muslims are BORN terrorists? Why would you say that most terrorists are Muslim, when in fact they are not. Just because recent events have occured in/from the middle east, does not mean that is how it has always been. Again, look at the KKK? I think you've been eating one too many paint-chips.

if most terrorists aren't muslim, then what group makes up the majority of terrorists? i'm just curious, because i think that muslim extremists probably make up the majority, but they obvioulsy aren't the only group of people engaged in terrorism (IRA, KKK, etc...)

evil zach

03/26/03, 05:04 PM

There are many ethnic and religous groups that make up terrorist organizations. i think it would be unfair to say that one group produces more terrorists then another

Justin_stacy

03/26/03, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by yeat182
if most terrorists aren't muslim, then what group makes up the majority of terrorists? i'm just curious, because i think that muslim extremists probably make up the majority, but they obvioulsy aren't the only group of people engaged in terrorism (IRA, KKK, etc...)

Who cares who makes up the majority, no matter what race they are terrorism needs to be stoped.

Fobika!

03/26/03, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Who cares who makes up the majority, no matter what race they are terrorism needs to be stoped.

yea, exactly, race has absoolutely NOTHING to do w/ terrorism...its completely irrelevant.

yeat182

03/26/03, 05:11 PM

perhaps, i'm not trying to say that Islam produces terrorists more than something else, but it just seems to me that out of all the terrorists out there, the majority of them are muslim, but i don't know, i'm just wondering if there is a different group that is larger.

and i know that the percentage of muslims that are terrorists are very small compared to the total number of muslims, and that the vast majority of muslims are peaceful.

Justin_stacy

03/26/03, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by yeat182
perhaps, i'm not trying to say that Islam produces terrorists more than something else, but it just seems to me that out of all the terrorists out there, the majority of them are muslim, but i don't know, i'm just wondering if there is a different group that is larger.

and i know that the percentage of muslims that are terrorists are very small compared to the total number of muslims, and that the vast majority of muslims are peaceful.

Race/religion doesn't lead to terrorism, lack of education does. Thats why extremist prey on the poor uneducated in Arab nations, but also in the back woods of America or even in Ireland.