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End of Disc One
06/29/09, 01:09 PM
Third Eye Blind
Bush

I'm know there are a lot more that I can't think of right now. And I know half of you will say Weezer, but I don't want to start another Blue vs. Pinkerton debate;-)

Topic title should say "Bands." My bad.

boxingwithstars
06/29/09, 01:12 PM
The Academy Is...

MrOctober430
06/29/09, 01:13 PM
Dance Gavin Dance (dont hate)

flks511
06/29/09, 01:14 PM
Hmmm.... Taking Back Sunday?

batmannj
06/29/09, 01:14 PM
Other than the obligatory TBS, I would have to say Norma Jean. Martyr is still one of my favorite albums.

ThisIsNotDan
06/29/09, 01:18 PM
Third Eye Blind doesn't belong in here

zonto
06/29/09, 01:38 PM
And I'm surprised nobody has said Fall Out Boy.

Cartel?

Chop[chop]
06/29/09, 01:44 PM
The Academy Is...

Santi is still overlooked, but agreed.

Weezer is actually the only one that comes to mind at the moment.
Bloc Party perhaps, also.

thefaceless
06/29/09, 01:49 PM
I realize i'm going to get shit all over for this one, but BMTH. not saying they're good, but the first album was definitely better than their newest trash.

fanberlinboy
06/29/09, 01:51 PM
Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, but they only have two, so that might not count.

kigginsthisprov
06/29/09, 01:53 PM
The Academy Is..., This Providence, Paramore, The Hush Sound

maoverbey
06/29/09, 01:54 PM
My Chemical Romance

Bullets was their best

Greek
06/29/09, 01:54 PM
I realize i'm going to get shit all over for this one, but BMTH. not saying they're good, but the first album was definitely better than their newest trash.

Seeing as how they've only released 2 albums, I wouldn't say their first being better was that special. It's either it or that. Know what I mean?

As for me I'd have to say Children of Bodom. Also, Bloc Party, not to say that their later and latest works aren't great, it's just that I don't think that they'll ever top Silent Alarm.

CollectiveConfusion
06/29/09, 01:58 PM
motion city soundtrack

Wait_For_It
06/29/09, 02:04 PM
The Academy Is, Hit The Lights.

DejaNew
06/29/09, 02:21 PM
Other than a few mentioned already,

The Used
Billy Talent
The Killers(only good one is their first)
Linkin Park
Sum 41

I don't really listen to these anymore though, other than the Used once in a while.

boxingwithstars
06/29/09, 02:28 PM
;46857862']Santi is still overlooked, but agreed.

Weezer is actually the only one that comes to mind at the moment.
Bloc Party perhaps, also.

i like Santi, but i don't think it's as good as Almost Here. i would be thrilled if their next album sounded more like a mixture of those two albums though.

thefaceless
06/29/09, 02:33 PM
Seeing as how they've only released 2 albums, I wouldn't say their first being better was that special. It's either it or that. Know what I mean?

As for me I'd have to say Children of Bodom. Also, Bloc Party, not to say that their later and latest works aren't great, it's just that I don't think that they'll ever top Silent Alarm.

oh i agree with you there. i just thought the difference between Count Your Blessings and Suicide Season was really noticeable, not in a good way.

flks511
06/29/09, 02:34 PM
Any band with only one album out.

thespearkid
06/29/09, 02:35 PM
So many awful bands in this thread. Jesus Christ.

Greek
06/29/09, 02:35 PM
oh i agree with you there. i just thought the difference between Count Your Blessings and Suicide Season was really noticeable, not in a good way.


To be honest, I've never listened to a complete BMTH album, just a few tracks, and I was just saying how other bands mentioned in this thread have many more albums in their catalogues. Not to bash BMTH or anything, was just saying.

thefaceless
06/29/09, 02:50 PM
To be honest, I've never listened to a complete BMTH album, just a few tracks, and I was just saying how other bands mentioned in this thread have many more albums in their catalogues. Not to bash BMTH or anything, was just saying.

i strongly dislike bmth. :P bash away.

Greek
06/29/09, 03:00 PM
i strongly dislike bmth. :P bash away.

Well in that case, Oli looks like he has downs, which I find pretty offensive to people who actually have it.

bradsonemanband
06/29/09, 03:01 PM
the used, paramore, dead poetic, dashboard confessional, say anything... that's all i can think of at the moment.

thefaceless
06/29/09, 03:02 PM
Well in that case, Oli looks like he has downs, which I find pretty offensive to people who actually have it.

i kinda wish he had gone to jail for pissing on that girl. then he wouldn't be able to bring terrible, TERRIBLE music to the scene kids who run around jerking each other off in the pits.

_><_
06/29/09, 03:23 PM
The Sound of animals fighting.

fanberlinboy
06/29/09, 03:36 PM
motion city soundtrack
I disagree, but I'm more of a Commit This to Memory fan, than an actual MCS fan.

i like Santi, but i don't think it's as good as Almost Here. i would be thrilled if their next album sounded more like a mixture of those two albums though.
I like Santi best, but would also be thrilled to see a mixture of the two on their next album.

Any band with only one album out.
WIN.

x

maoverbey
06/29/09, 03:36 PM
The Sound of animals fighting.

Lover was good...and so was Tiger

but their last one was song-writing at its best

xJesusFreakx
06/29/09, 04:04 PM
He Is Legend

Other than a few mentioned already,

The Used
Billy Talent
The Killers(only good one is their first)
Linkin Park
Sum 41

I don't really listen to these anymore though, other than the Used once in a while.

Minutes to Midnight is underrated. I'd love for a lot more Mike over Chester, but besides that, it's a really solid album.

3eb23
06/29/09, 04:11 PM
Other than a few mentioned already,

The Used
Billy Talent
The Killers(only good one is their first)
Linkin Park
Sum 41

I don't really listen to these anymore though, other than the Used once in a while.

no way

Troggy
06/29/09, 04:14 PM
The Academy Is...

Dance Gavin Dance (dont hate)

Hmmm.... Taking Back Sunday?

Cartel?

The Academy Is..., This Providence, Paramore, The Hush Sound

My Chemical Romance

motion city soundtrack

The Academy Is, Hit The Lights.

All bands like this. They have nothing original to say, and it all gets stale after the first record. Maybe they came up with some hooks that Hanson would be jealous of on their debut, but by the time the sophomore disc comes out, they have no ideas and no talent to try anything else.

Even worse, their label might convince them they need to 'mature' or 'expand their sound', and you get a pile of crap like that Forgive Durden musical.

Bottom line, there are a million of bands like this, and I have even obliged some in the past. There are still plenty of kids doing the same thing now and you will always hear the chorus of 'but I love their debut'.

3eb23
06/29/09, 04:14 PM
I'd like to add Raekwon and AZ to this list

MrOctober430
06/29/09, 04:25 PM
All bands like this. They have nothing original to say, and it all gets stale after the first record. Maybe they came up with some hooks that Hanson would be jealous of on their debut, but by the time the sophomore disc comes out, they have no ideas and no talent to try anything else.

Even worse, their label might convince them they need to 'mature' or 'expand their sound', and you get a pile of crap like that Forgive Durden musical.

Bottom line, there are a million of bands like this, and I have even obliged some in the past. There are still plenty of kids doing the same thing now and you will always hear the chorus of 'but I love their debut'.

I thought DGD Downtown Battle Mountain or whatever it was, was there only good CD. After that, I didn't care anymore the other ones were shitty.

spencersnoise
06/29/09, 04:29 PM
Dr. Dre (post NWA), Catch 22, The Kinks, Cobra Starship (I know they're 3rd is in the making, but their first album was much better than Viva la Cobra by far) and Will Smith.

kazuma_ootaro28
06/29/09, 04:43 PM
Arcade Fire, Armor For Sleep, The Futureheads, Interpol, The Mars Volta, A Static Lullaby

Other than obviously Taking Back Sunday, agreed with The Academy Is... and Norma Jean.

micahistheballs
06/29/09, 05:41 PM
the Flying Burrito Brothers

CollectiveConfusion
06/29/09, 05:50 PM
Even worse, their label might convince them they need to 'mature' or 'expand their sound', and you get a pile of crap like that Forgive Durden musical.
.

:nono:

FeynmanWannabe
06/29/09, 05:53 PM
Leonard Cohen - Songs of Leonard Cohen

Obviously at least one of the best ever. First one I thought of.

DejaNew
06/29/09, 06:03 PM
no way
I only liked the first one. I thought the other ones were terrible. Maybe you didn't though.

theguy77
06/29/09, 06:05 PM
omgz brand new

WhoSaidThat?
06/29/09, 06:11 PM
http://foto.mv4u.net/data/media/17/50_Cent-photo_004.jpg

mattmatumbo
06/29/09, 06:12 PM
So many awful bands in this thread. Jesus Christ.

Wow, agreed.

I'd have to say Hot Cross, although it was an EP. Yet their newer stuff was all good in varying degrees.

thespearkid
06/29/09, 06:19 PM
Honestly, I think the reason why so many bad bands are mentioned in a thread like this is because of two main factors:

1. Not being able to grow and expand one's sound is just the typical nature of a talentless band. I tried to seriously think of a band I listen to actively that I don't think has grown for the better in some way since their debut and I couldn't think of one.

2. The "scene" loves a new band. For a band like Taking Back Sunday, I see no quality difference between Tell All Your Friends and Louder Now. They're both pretty sloppy records but once something isn't new anymore in the scene, it's time to move on to something else, and that applies to both bands the scene loves and ones they hate (notice how every few months, AP's most hated band changes).

3eb23
06/29/09, 06:35 PM
http://foto.mv4u.net/data/media/17/50_Cent-photo_004.jpg

http://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/50cent.jpg

WhoSaidThat?
06/29/09, 06:42 PM
http://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/50cent.jpg
http://www.hiphopgame.com/images/crazy/50centmugshot.jpg

Five-Star
06/29/09, 06:46 PM
Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, but they only have two, so that might not count.

Great album.

3eb23
06/29/09, 06:47 PM
http://www.hiphopgame.com/images/crazy/50centmugshot.jpg

haha i was debating which of these two pictures i should put up. great stuff.

Five-Star
06/29/09, 06:48 PM
The Killers
The Used
MCR

WhoSaidThat?
06/29/09, 06:49 PM
haha i was debating which of these two pictures i should put up. great stuff.
I almost went with this.

http://www.magicalrabbit.com/ebay/2_Headed_New_Quarter_gallery.jpg

Greek
06/29/09, 07:44 PM
I'd like to add Raekwon and AZ to this list


Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, yessss sirrr

IWasHerHorse
06/29/09, 07:55 PM
Weezer, The Anniversary, The Mars Volta, Wolf Parade, Sparta, and Sunny Day Real Estate.

rhazau
06/29/09, 08:11 PM
I cant think of any to be honest, scrolling through my albums and most of my favourites are 2nd or 3rd albums. Too often the first album doesn't completely "make sense" or the production/recording quality is shitty or whatever.

It makes me really glad that no-one has mentioned Alexisonfire yet. AOF are my favourite band but i cannot and will not ever understand the legions of people who rave on and on about the self titled.

micahistheballs
06/29/09, 08:20 PM
Television
Ryan Adams
the Doors
Portishead
John Lennon and George Harrison (solo)

boxingwithstars
06/29/09, 08:23 PM
All bands like this. They have nothing original to say, and it all gets stale after the first record. Maybe they came up with some hooks that Hanson would be jealous of on their debut, but by the time the sophomore disc comes out, they have no ideas and no talent to try anything else.

Even worse, their label might convince them they need to 'mature' or 'expand their sound', and you get a pile of crap like that Forgive Durden musical.

Bottom line, there are a million of bands like this, and I have even obliged some in the past. There are still plenty of kids doing the same thing now and you will always hear the chorus of 'but I love their debut'.

i'd have to agree that this is the case for all the bands you quoted, except MCS. i thought Commit This To Memory was a great album.

and Razia's Shadow was a lot better than Wonderland, imo. i don't think it was as groundbreaking as some people made it out to be, but still a lot more original and well thought out than most of the generic crap that's out there right now... especially considering the fact that they are an FBR band.

3eb23
06/29/09, 08:26 PM
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, yessss sirrr

haha damn straight

3eb23
06/29/09, 08:29 PM
i'd have to agree that this is the case for all the bands you quoted, except MCS. i thought Commit This To Memory was a great album.

and Razia's Shadow was a lot better than Wonderland, imo. i don't think it was as groundbreaking as some people made it out to be, but still a lot more original and well thought out than most of the generic crap that's out there right now... especially considering the fact that they are an FBR band.

My first reaction is to say Commit This To Memory > I Am The Movie, but i might have to go back and listen to IATM. It's been a really long time since I listened to that record.

AMackChuck
06/29/09, 08:36 PM
Weatherboxs debut full-length is the best, without a doubt.

baysidef4n22
06/29/09, 08:39 PM
Weatherboxs debut full-length is the best, without a doubt.

yeah all five people that bought that album loved it.

AMackChuck
06/29/09, 08:43 PM
yeah all five people that bought that album loved it.

Not exactly sure what you're trying to say. Just because not many people bought it, doesn't take away that it's fucking gold.

boxingwithstars
06/29/09, 08:57 PM
My first reaction is to say Commit This To Memory > I Am The Movie, but i might have to go back and listen to IATM. It's been a really long time since I listened to that record.

CTTM was the album that got me into them, so maybe that's why i love it so much. i think they're both really great, but i've always liked CTTM more.

boxingwithstars
06/29/09, 08:58 PM
yeah all five people that bought that album loved it.

really? :hitself:

tfar06
06/29/09, 09:03 PM
alexisonfire

stupidtyonparad
06/29/09, 09:12 PM
akron/family.
reel big fish.
sum 41. yeah, half hour of power was good, ill admit it

weezer. MAYBE. weezer. pinkerton and blue are like....both 10's as far as im concerned

sweepthenation
06/29/09, 09:20 PM
All Time Low, Cartel, Taking Back Sunday, The Academy Is, Dance Gavin Dance, A Skylit Drive

Robototron
06/29/09, 09:22 PM
Portishead

Massive Attack and Tricky, too. Goldfrapp as well. This seems to be a pattern in Trip-Hop.

Troggy
06/30/09, 05:25 AM
i'd have to agree that this is the case for all the bands you quoted, except MCS. i thought Commit This To Memory was a great album.

Well, it was a blanket statement. I was, for the most part, just quoting at random from the first page. I do feel that statement applies to MCS, but you may disagree.

and Razia's Shadow was a lot better than Wonderland, imo. i don't think it was as groundbreaking as some people made it out to be, but still a lot more original and well thought out than most of the generic crap that's out there right now... especially considering the fact that they are an FBR band.

I thought it was terrible. That band is the generic crap that is out there right now. Again, you may disagree, and I don't want to invalidate my point based on a few specific examples that may cause squabbling.

It's quite humorous that the same kind of bands continue to be mentioned. I just feel bad that people had expectations from them outside of their debut album in the first place.

bard
06/30/09, 06:25 AM
Other than the obligatory TBS, I would have to say Norma Jean. Martyr is still one of my favorite albums.
obligatory elitist reply: bless the martyr is their second album.... :rolleyes:


also, here's my list:

anberlin
the bled
the chariot
dashboard confessional
franz ferdinand
keane
the killers
the mars volta
maylene & the sons of disaster



that's about it.

OtherBen
06/30/09, 07:37 AM
loving people mentioning bands who have two albums.

MADSTA
06/30/09, 07:57 AM
The Academy Is..., This Providence, Paramore, The Hush Sound
alexisonfire
Wow. Disagree, hard.
Other than a few mentioned already,

The Used
Billy Talent
The Killers(only good one is their first)
Linkin Park
Sum 41

I don't really listen to these anymore though, other than the Used once in a while.
Yes.

fadedmemories
06/30/09, 08:14 AM
The Academy Is...
Taking Back Sunday
Cartel
The Used

regardless, I still love every band due to the fact that I still listen to their first record.

wtfmates
06/30/09, 08:15 AM
Portugal. The Man. I'm a huge fan of theirs, but their debut album will always be my favorite, despite how much I love their newer stuff.

Bloodsucker II
06/30/09, 09:00 AM
Honestly, I think the reason why so many bad bands are mentioned in a thread like this is because of two main factors:

1. Not being able to grow and expand one's sound is just the typical nature of a talentless band. I tried to seriously think of a band I listen to actively that I don't think has grown for the better in some way since their debut and I couldn't think of one.



Major this.

whataclush
06/30/09, 10:27 AM
Mer De Noms - A Perfect Circle

briewer
06/30/09, 11:23 AM
Radiohead

IWasaCamera
06/30/09, 11:42 AM
The Velvet Underground.

Regards
06/30/09, 12:06 PM
Agree'd with Mars Volta.

fanberlinboy
06/30/09, 12:08 PM
obligatory elitist reply: bless the martyr is their second album.... :rolleyes:


also, here's my list:

anberlin
the bled
the chariot
dashboard confessional
franz ferdinand
keane
the killers
the mars volta
maylene & the sons of disaster



that's about it.
What? No, this must be a joke.

bard
06/30/09, 01:00 PM
What? No, this must be a joke.
sorry fanberlinboy, but blueprints... is way better than anything else they've done.

without a doubt

FeynmanWannabe
06/30/09, 01:17 PM
originally read the title incorrectly, although a case could still be made for Leonard Cohen.

The Modern Lovers / Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers
Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True (unpopular choice)
Gang of Four - Entertainment

theguy77
06/30/09, 01:23 PM
radiohead, obviously

MrOctober430
06/30/09, 01:27 PM
the graduate
circa survive
fall of troy
thursday
northstar*

theguy77
06/30/09, 01:28 PM
the graduate
circa survive
fall of troy
thursday
northstar*

???? they've only had one album!

MrOctober430
06/30/09, 01:30 PM
oh yea, fail

i keep thinking the evergreen album was something

FeynmanWannabe
06/30/09, 01:33 PM
R.E.M. - Murmur (popular opinion)
Ray LaMontagne - Trouble
Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker
Ted Leo + the Pharmacists - Tyranny of Distance
Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted (popular opinion)

fanberlinboy
06/30/09, 01:34 PM
sorry fanberlinboy, but blueprints... is way better than anything else they've done.

without a doubt
It was a good album sure, but it really didn't have much going for it outside of a few songs and potential. They improved immensely as musicians and songwriters on Never Take Friendship Personal and especially Cities.

batmannj
06/30/09, 01:54 PM
obligatory elitist reply: bless the martyr is their second album.... :rolleyes:


also, here's my list:

anberlin
the bled
the chariot
dashboard confessional
franz ferdinand
keane
the killers
the mars volta
maylene & the sons of disaster



that's about it.
yeah good point on the NJ stuff. I guess their first album as Norma Jean and not Luti-Kriss haha.

And I agree with the Mars Volta.

stupidtyonparad
06/30/09, 07:43 PM
radiohead, obviously

HA. obviously. in rainbows was shit.

................................... ..........



also. transplants. haunted cities was terrible

theguy77
06/30/09, 07:45 PM
HA. obviously. in rainbows was shit.

................................... ..........



also. transplants. haunted cities was terrible

hahaha, way to COMPLETELY miss the sarcasm, boss. there isnt a real music fan on this green earth who thinks pablo honey was radiohead's best album. that cd was shit.

bard
07/01/09, 05:39 AM
It was a good album sure, but it really didn't have much going for it outside of a few songs and potential. They improved immensely as musicians and songwriters on Never Take Friendship Personal and especially Cities.
agree to disagree...
yeah good point on the NJ stuff. I guess their first album as Norma Jean and not Luti-Kriss haha.

And I agree with the Mars Volta.
:) just messin with ya, lol

fran.182
07/01/09, 06:50 AM
Honestly, I can't think of many...

Maybe... Story Of The Year, Fightstar, Cartel and Third Eye Blind.

Of Purest Fire
07/01/09, 07:04 AM
the graduate
circa survive
fall of troy
thursday
northstar*

Wrong.

stupidtyonparad
07/01/09, 09:12 AM
hahaha, way to COMPLETELY miss the sarcasm, boss. there isnt a real music fan on this green earth who thinks pablo honey was radiohead's best album. that cd was shit.

hey big guy, i was trumping your sarcasm......with more sarcasm.

i love in rainbows, its my favorite record of theirs

cscwell107
07/01/09, 09:17 AM
I agree with almost everything in here except Motion City Soundtrack. I thought Commit This to Memory was better even though I love I Am the Movie.

fanberlinboy
07/01/09, 09:24 AM
agree to disagree...

:) just messin with ya, lol
Yeah, let's just do that haha.

I agree with almost everything in here except Motion City Soundtrack. I thought Commit This to Memory was better even though I love I Am the Movie.
Yup. Except I'm not really a fan of any of their stuff except CTTM.

RecklessXRandy
07/01/09, 09:31 AM
Panic At The Disco