View Full Version : New Jonny Craig solo album cover/title
whataclush
06/30/09, 03:59 PM
holy shit this is gonna be epic.
http://images.victoryrecords.com/albums/RR084.jpg
MrOctober430
06/30/09, 04:01 PM
wasn't he banned or something from absolutepunk?? just wondering
but i thought emarosa was his solo gig.
whataclush
06/30/09, 04:04 PM
but i thought emarosa was his solo gig.
hahahaha
redfalcon431
06/30/09, 04:13 PM
what style of music is it going to be? acoustic?
MrOctober430
06/30/09, 04:16 PM
i think he said acoustic. with various artists (including the douche from dgd, kurt).
I am Mick
06/30/09, 04:24 PM
I've been stoked for this since he announced it forever ago.
and if he was actually "banned" from absolutepunk for saying he didn't like the As Cities Burn record...well the staff need to fucking grow up. I'm doubting this is the case though.
dancelukedance
06/30/09, 05:37 PM
i think he said acoustic. with various artists (including the douche from dgd, kurt).
Kurt is no "Douche"
I've been stoked for this since he announced it forever ago.
and if he was actually "banned" from absolutepunk for saying he didn't like the As Cities Burn record...well the staff need to fucking grow up. I'm doubting this is the case though.
This
Five-Star
06/30/09, 05:38 PM
Heard about this a while ago. Hope its good.
dancelukedance
06/30/09, 05:40 PM
Im sure it'll be good, so is it confirmed to be an acousitc album? im at work so cant view the title or cover. Whats the title?
kurt's gonna be on it? wtf? regardless, i'm stoked for this
dancelukedance
06/30/09, 05:57 PM
kurt's gonna be on it? wtf? regardless, i'm stoked for this
sure is and i think craig owens is too!
sure is and i think craig owens is too!
that's weird, i didn't think kurt was cool with jonny. i really need to hear this then haha
Who's Jonny Craig??? :shrug:
dancelukedance
06/30/09, 06:11 PM
that's weird, i didn't think kurt was cool with jonny. i really need to hear this then haha
Na i think they're sweet. I honestly beleive the animosity was between jonny and mess.
Who's Jonny Craig??? :shrug:
Lead singer of Emarosa and former vocalist of dance gavin dance. His voice has an uncanny resembalance to the late Michael Jackson
whataclush
06/30/09, 07:38 PM
that's weird, i didn't think kurt was cool with jonny. i really need to hear this then haha
i dont remember where i read this, but zac garren said that kurt is from sac town, so him and jonny have been friends for years or atleast knew each other.
whataclush
06/30/09, 07:40 PM
Im sure it'll be good, so is it confirmed to be an acousitc album? im at work so cant view the title or cover. Whats the title?
from reading his "tweets"...its going to have acoustic songs and r&b songs..haha some mix. ive never heard a rock star sing r&b..
its called "A Dream is a Question You Don't Know How to Answer"
dancelukedance
06/30/09, 08:35 PM
from reading his "tweets"...its going to have acoustic songs and r&b songs..haha some mix. ive never heard a rock star sing r&b..
its called "A Dream is a Question You Don't Know How to Answer"
Ok cool, thats intriguing.
It's a good album title too
MrOctober430
06/30/09, 08:37 PM
nic newsham is on it aswell. i even heard jon mess was gonna be on it aswell, but i think it's kurt instead.
i really wish/hope the album is like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieN6Z15UNy4
whataclush
06/30/09, 10:58 PM
nic newsham is on it aswell. i even heard jon mess was gonna be on it aswell, but i think it's kurt instead.
i really wish/hope the album is like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieN6Z15UNy4
jon mess is gonna be on the new emarosa cd, jonny said that on twitter.
haha i wish jonny recorded that song with ambrosia, they sound amazing together
dancelukedance
06/30/09, 11:02 PM
jon mess is gonna be on the new emarosa cd, jonny said that on twitter.
haha i wish jonny recorded that song with ambrosia, they sound amazing together
What! that's bizarre! good though. I want Mess to start a project
RecklessXRandy
06/30/09, 11:05 PM
Yes.
whataclush
06/30/09, 11:05 PM
What! that's bizarre! good though. I want Mess to start a project
haha its only going to be 1 song though.
MrOctober430
06/30/09, 11:06 PM
i'm glad jonny cleared up the issues with dgd members, i think the only one who he had issues with was with sean.
thesafeword
06/30/09, 11:08 PM
What's a Jonny Craig?
MrOctober430
06/30/09, 11:10 PM
he created the genre, joncraigcore
whataclush
06/30/09, 11:11 PM
What's a Jonny Craig?
his name is being advertised all over the homepage, so im sure you can figure it out.
thesafeword
06/30/09, 11:16 PM
his name is being advertised all over the homepage, so im sure you can figure it out.
I'll just assume that it's a version of Craig Owens that has a little less suicide.
whataclush
06/30/09, 11:19 PM
I'll just assume that it's a version of Craig Owens that has a little less suicide.
hahahaha
i'm glad jonny cleared up the issues with dgd members, i think the only one who he had issues with was with sean.
Good to hear.
I'll just assume that it's a version of Craig Owens that has a little less suicide.
Haha. Johnny is better than Craig imo. Craig just seems like a dick.
Look forward to this. I hold Jonny Craig on a similar level to Dallas Green - i could hear them both sing all day with even the simplest of music and i'd be happy.
symbiote28
07/01/09, 06:40 AM
wasn't he banned or something from absolutepunk?? just wondering
but i thought emarosa was his solo gig.
yeah. and chiodos was craig owen's and saosin and circa was anthony's .. how fucking stupid is that
thesafeword
07/02/09, 12:41 AM
Good to hear.
Haha. Johnny is better than Craig imo. Craig just seems like a dick.
He doesn't even like himself.
I like his voice but it doesn't really work with acoustic music...
Regards
07/02/09, 06:29 AM
I've been stoked for this since he announced it forever ago.
and if he was actually "banned" from absolutepunk for saying he didn't like the As Cities Burn record...well the staff need to fucking grow up. I'm doubting this is the case though.
Did that actually happen? Link?
I am Mick
07/02/09, 06:33 AM
Did that actually happen? Link?
I have no idea where the link is anymore, but he wrote on his TWITTER that he didn't like the new As Cities Burn, and people freaked out. Johnny responded, people freaked out more. It ended with one more random tweet from him with the news headline "last news johnny craig gets" or something. It was pretty stupid.
Regards
07/02/09, 06:46 AM
I have no idea where the link is anymore, but he wrote on his TWITTER that he didn't like the new As Cities Burn, and people freaked out. Johnny responded, people freaked out more. It ended with one more random tweet from him with the news headline "last news johnny craig gets" or something. It was pretty stupid.
lol. Wow. Eh, Cody Bonnette >>>> Jonny Craig, but whatev's. Dude's entitled to his opinion as much as I am.
whataclush
07/02/09, 09:58 AM
lol. Wow. Eh, Cody Bonnette >>>> Jonny Craig, but whatev's. Dude's entitled to his opinion as much as I am.
he was banned on AP because he called the people on this site..."drama queen pussies"...he was ofcourse talking about the haterz haha
whataclush
07/02/09, 09:58 AM
I like his voice but it doesn't really work with acoustic music...
12 hours 630 miles...sounds fine to me.
fly_guy
07/02/09, 10:02 AM
wasn't he banned or something from absolutepunk?? just wondering
but i thought emarosa was his solo gig.
Solo gig? Are you kidding me?
I have no idea where the link is anymore, but he wrote on his TWITTER that he didn't like the new As Cities Burn, and people freaked out. Johnny responded, people freaked out more. It ended with one more random tweet from him with the news headline "last news johnny craig gets" or something. It was pretty stupid.
Yeah, I remember that.
12 hours 630 miles...sounds fine to me.
Great song, but there is no way he's solo record is going to feature similar songs.
He doesn't even like himself.
Lol rigth. I read a interview with in Blender and I was like wow this guys is a dick.
whataclush
07/02/09, 12:17 PM
Lol rigth. I read a interview with in Blender and I was like wow this guys is a dick.
what did he say?
I can't stand him as a person, but I love his voice. I really want to hear this.
TotalCollapse
07/02/09, 02:44 PM
I can't stand him as a person, but I love his voice. I really want to hear this.
Agreed.
showyourteeth
07/02/09, 03:09 PM
I can't stand him as a person, but I love his voice. I really want to hear this.
yeah same
i'll try to ignore the fact that he's apparently a total douche bag and give his solo stuff a chance, though i'm doubtful that it will be anything incredible
showyourteeth
07/02/09, 03:11 PM
haha someone else on this site said it best
they said, "jonny craig already released a solo album, it was called relativity"
When did Jenny Craig start making music? X-)
what did he say?
He was saying things like he wishes he could quit the band for good. That to many people liked and he was dissapointing them. Emo fas shit. The trailer they had got a flat and tore form the band and all he did was go lay down and take pills. I cant stand him.
MrOctober430
07/02/09, 04:06 PM
Solo gig? Are you kidding me?
it was a joke. because how emarosa changed since jonny joined.
whatever happened with isles & glaciers?
whataclush
07/02/09, 09:23 PM
He was saying things like he wishes he could quit the band for good. That to many people liked and he was dissapointing them. Emo fas shit. The trailer they had got a flat and tore form the band and all he did was go lay down and take pills. I cant stand him.
link?
link?
Sorry man. Its from an old copy of blender I got at half price books. I cant find it. I think I threw it away.
whataclush
07/02/09, 10:36 PM
Sorry man. Its from an old copy of blender I got at half price books. I cant find it. I think I threw it away.
what band was he talking about?
what band was he talking about?
Chiodos
more heart
07/02/09, 10:48 PM
I can't wait. Should be a good one.
bluebear
07/03/09, 12:34 PM
I think this is gonna be good
dancelukedance
07/05/09, 01:20 AM
Apparently there was meant to be a new song today? its no where to be seen
Still no song, still really pissed.
MrOctober430
07/05/09, 10:20 AM
he wants everyone swingin from his nuts. but yeah i want to hear this new song now!
fakejazz
07/05/09, 10:52 AM
looking forward to this!!!
symbiote28
07/10/09, 09:22 PM
new song tomorrow!
dancelukedance
07/10/09, 09:34 PM
new song tomorrow!
Definitely?
I thought it was meant to come out last week
whataclush
07/10/09, 09:36 PM
new song tomorrow!
dont get your hopes up, he said that last week.
symbiote28
07/10/09, 10:52 PM
dont get your hopes up, he said that last week.
really? i remembered reading somewhere that it'll be on the 11th.
Here It Goes
07/11/09, 01:25 AM
sure is and i think craig owens is too!
Of course he is! It wouldn't be a Jonny Craig solo album without Craig Owens there so they can start a fire by rubbing their weiners together!
Seriously, why do people get so jacked on this stuff? If Jonny Craig is putting out a solo album, it's a freaking given that EVERY SINGLE PERSON that Jonny Craig has EVER even SEEN in a musical setting is going to have something to do with it. Every single dude from Isles and Glaciers will be on that album, and every 15 year-old girl and 19 year-old dude that can't grow a beard is going to squeal in sheer delight.
Almost guarantee the same will be true for Craig Owens' solo EP, the difference being that Craig's solo work might actually be worth listening to. Cripes, heaven forbid these guys should branch out a bit.
whataclush
07/11/09, 06:48 AM
Of course he is! It wouldn't be a Jonny Craig solo album without Craig Owens there so they can start a fire by rubbing their weiners together!
Seriously, why do people get so jacked on this stuff? If Jonny Craig is putting out a solo album, it's a freaking given that EVERY SINGLE PERSON that Jonny Craig has EVER even SEEN in a musical setting is going to have something to do with it. Every single dude from Isles and Glaciers will be on that album, and every 15 year-old girl and 19 year-old dude that can't grow a beard is going to squeal in sheer delight.
Almost guarantee the same will be true for Craig Owens' solo EP, the difference being that Craig's solo work might actually be worth listening to. Cripes, heaven forbid these guys should branch out a bit.
craig owens isnt on it. its nic newsham, kurt travis and some girl. thats it. and craig owens already named off his guests, and its a lot people but jonnys not in it.
Here It Goes
07/11/09, 09:40 AM
craig owens isnt on it. its nic newsham, kurt travis and some girl. thats it. and craig owens already named off his guests, and its a lot people but jonnys not in it.
Nic Newsham? Well, as a matter of fact, that IS cool.
Seeing this got my hopes up that he finally put that song up...
YoungDrack
07/11/09, 10:58 AM
12 hours 630 miles...sounds fine to me.
song is sick, i liked the "she makes dirty words sound pretty" song too,
hopefully its a lil catchy too
Uwe Blab
07/13/09, 07:21 PM
2 songs are up on his myspace now. Pretty good; I'm really excited for the album now.
jay_klinkhammer
07/13/09, 07:25 PM
He has one of the most beautiful voices ever. The songs will definitely be jammed by me. Very good.
Songs are utterly fantastic.
I am Mick
07/13/09, 07:39 PM
I Still Feel Her is fantastic. Children of Divorce seems like it could use more structure...but fuck, his voice is good.
jay_klinkhammer
07/13/09, 07:48 PM
I hope this gets posted on the front page....he was right about As cities Burn, haha, Just kidding.
But he seriously should be on the front page.
Eich696
07/13/09, 07:54 PM
Fucking great songs. Wow.
I am Mick
07/13/09, 08:02 PM
Is AP really not going to post news about these songs? If they are legitimetely going to stop posting news on Jonny Craig because he tweeted that he didn't like the new As Cities Burn record...that's just fucking pathetic. Say what you will about his personality, but it's music that most people on this site will dig.
jay_klinkhammer
07/13/09, 08:18 PM
Is AP really not going to post news about these songs? If they are legitimetely going to stop posting news on Jonny Craig because he tweeted that he didn't like the new As Cities Burn record...that's just fucking pathetic. Say what you will about his personality, but it's music that most people on this site will dig.
As the kids like to say on here..."This".
1mastalker
07/13/09, 08:21 PM
Is AP really not going to post news about these songs? If they are legitimetely going to stop posting news on Jonny Craig because he tweeted that he didn't like the new As Cities Burn record...that's just fucking pathetic. Say what you will about his personality, but it's music that most people on this site will dig.
If the whole not posting news thing is true, I think they would not post news about him because he's a fucking douchebag.
If I remember correctly one of his tweets said:
I'm blowin up like the twin towers haha
I am Mick
07/13/09, 08:24 PM
If the whole not posting news thing is true, I think they would not post news about him because he's a fucking douchebag.
If I remember correctly one of his tweets said:
Who gives a fuck? It's twitter. He has the right to say whatever he wants. If Jesse Lacey "Tweeted" about tearing puppies spines out with his bare hands while gay bashing and smoking crack, nobody on this site will give a fuck.
whataclush
07/13/09, 08:26 PM
theyre not posting because he said the people on AP were a bunch of pussies. thats the tweet that jason tate linked, saying it was the last post. obviously jonny was only talking about the people talking shit since he also said he loved all of the fans that were defending him.
I am Mick
07/13/09, 08:29 PM
AP shouldn't have even felt it necessary to post the original twitter post about disliking As Cities Burn. That isn't news. There is NO REASON to even post that. Then people here freaked out.
This website is notorious for being filled with haters. However, when a musician responds, everyone gets offended and freaks out. They can dish it out, but they can't take it?
whataclush
07/13/09, 08:29 PM
If the whole not posting news thing is true, I think they would not post news about him because he's a fucking douchebag.
If I remember correctly one of his tweets said:
if you actually read all the shit that people said about jonny...youd try to find an extreme analogy as well. i thought it was perfect.
1mastalker
07/13/09, 08:33 PM
Who gives a fuck? It's twitter. He has the right to say whatever he wants. If Jesse Lacey "Tweeted" about tearing puppies spines out with his bare hands while gay bashing and smoking crack, nobody on this site will give a fuck.
1)If you think it's okay for ANYONE to make a joke like that about 9/11,while stroking their over-inflated ego,then you can go fuck yourself too because that is majorly fucked up.
2)I know that's exaggeration but you're probably right about the Jesse Lacey thing because Brand New are gods on this website(and I have no clue why).
I am Mick
07/13/09, 08:38 PM
1)If you think it's okay for ANYONE to make a joke like that about 9/11,while stroking their over-inflated ego,then you can go fuck yourself too because that is majorly fucked up.
2)I know that's exaggeration but you're probably right about the Jesse Lacey thing because Brand New are gods on this website(and I have no clue why).
I think it's fucked he said it. I'm not going to pretend he doesn't have a shitty personality. But this site is supposed to be about music. The people here are starved for drama, and it's obvious when you notice a news post with Portugal. The Man has MAYBE 20 replies, and a post about BrokenCYDE or Breathe Carolina has 500.
The Brand New love disgusts me.
His solo songs are amazing.
And I've talked to him and many people who have toured with him and they don't have a bad thing to say about him. Even the fued he had with DGD is over.
children of divorce is awesome
Klatzke
07/13/09, 09:56 PM
the new songs are freaking good
symbiote28
07/13/09, 10:26 PM
im just sad that AP decides to treat Jonny this way .. hoping it'll change.
JimGray
07/13/09, 10:33 PM
Lead singer of Emarosa and former vocalist of dance gavin dance. His voice has an uncanny resembalance to the late Michael Jackson
I'm drunk and this is the funniest thing I have ever read.
thesafeword
07/13/09, 10:41 PM
"Waaaaah I'm Jonny Craig and I make shitty music, but think that I'm fucking awesome and I hate AP"
"Well I'm AP and I hype/like shitty music and I hate Jonny Craig"
So, when's the make-up sex?
JimGray
07/13/09, 10:45 PM
"Waaaaah I'm Jonny Craig and I make shitty music, but think that I'm fucking awesome and I hate AP"
"Well I'm AP and I hype/like shitty music and I hate Jonny Craig"
So, when's the make-up sex?
Awesome post. No sarcasm meant by that either.
fakejazz
07/13/09, 10:47 PM
new songs are okay, but still the vocal melodies don't match up to the ones in DBM
Songs are great, Regardless if Jonny is a dick or not his music is all that matters. For AP not to post news about it is pretty shitty, but whatever they can go on posting about brokencyde and the millonaires and leave him out of the news. Oh and I saw Emarosa in Houston last night, and the mix was horrible you could barely hear jonny but her continued performing for the fans. So whatever if AP wants to be like this let them it's just a really immature thing to do.
fakejazz
07/13/09, 10:56 PM
someone link me to his tweeter
Songs are great, Regardless if Jonny is a dick or not his music is all that matters. For AP not to post news about it is pretty shitty, but whatever they can go on posting about brokencyde and the millonaires and leave him out of the news. Oh and I saw Emarosa in Houston last night, and the mix was horrible you could barely hear jonny but her continued performing for the fans. So whatever if AP wants to be like this let them it's just a really immature thing to do.
I was there too he was pissed but he battled through it. When I could hear him he sounded great.
jay_klinkhammer
07/14/09, 12:07 AM
I'm drunk and this is the funniest thing I have ever read.
When I listened to their EP to test it out, I thought it DID sound like Michael. So there is truth to the statement.
JimGray
07/14/09, 12:16 AM
When I listened to their EP to test it out, I thought it DID sound like Michael. So there is truth to the statement.
Michael Jackson meets Biz Markie perhaps?
symbiote28
07/14/09, 02:14 AM
second listen and i'm already loving Children Of Divorce ..
dancelukedance
07/14/09, 04:18 AM
I'm drunk and this is the funniest thing I have ever read.
Haha the truth.
i worded it so well
JimGray
07/14/09, 11:17 AM
Haha the truth.
i worded it so well
xD
PaRaMoReROX
07/14/09, 11:32 AM
second listen and i'm already loving Children Of Divorce ..
Love that song. "I Still Feel Her pt. 3" is wicked good as well. I am really stoked for this album.
dancelukedance
07/14/09, 04:23 PM
Did anyone get a zip file for the two tracks?
symbiote28
07/14/09, 06:08 PM
Tracklisting:
1. The Pain Loss
2. So Many Of Us Hide Our Black Hearts
3. Istillfeelher part111
4. What I Would Give To Be Australian
5. I've Been Hearing That You're Freaky
6. 7 AM, 2 Bottles And The Wrong Road
7. The Garbage Pail Kid Gang Bang
8. Taking Time For All The Wrong Things
9. No Matter How Hard I Dig They Always See Right Through Me
10. I'm Jonny Craig Bitch And I Drive In Reverse!
11. Children Of Divorce
i love how Children Of Divorce is the album closer.
bradsonemanband
07/14/09, 06:14 PM
his wife helped me lose weight
I am Mick
07/14/09, 06:35 PM
lol @ tate and jonny craig bitching at each other over Twitter.
It's still super weak that the website didn't post about these songs. Put your differences aside for professionalism....
symbiote28
07/14/09, 06:38 PM
lol @ tate and jonny craig bitching at each other over Twitter.
It's still super weak that the website didn't post about these songs. Put your differences aside for professionalism....
what's jonny twitter?
I am Mick
07/14/09, 06:41 PM
what's jonny twitter?
http://twitter.com/jonnycraig4L
honestly...if you're a fan, I'd stay away. He posts a lot of stupid shit that he shouldn't....like how he's going to fuck his girlfriend tonight and such.
haha i love reading his twitter updates. people need to realize he just doesn't give a fuck.
whataclush
07/14/09, 06:54 PM
http://twitter.com/jonnycraig4L
honestly...if you're a fan, I'd stay away. He posts a lot of stupid shit that he shouldn't....like how he's going to fuck his girlfriend tonight and such.
or when he was talking crap to his mom on twitter, since he thought it was a poser, then it turned out to be his real mom...
I am Mick
07/14/09, 06:54 PM
and he shouldn't. I'd just rather believe somebody with such a quality voice wasn't such a tool.
I am Mick
07/14/09, 06:55 PM
or when he was talking crap to his mom on twitter, since he thought it was a poser, then it turned out to be his real mom...
that was actually hilarious.
JimGray
07/14/09, 06:56 PM
Fuck This Fucker.
I am Mick
07/14/09, 06:56 PM
I just sent an email to Tate explaining that this "feud" is fucking stupid and this website needs to be responsible enough to at least cover music. Fuck personal differences. The site has no issue posting news about BrokenCYDE, Millionaires and Breathe Carolina who sing about date rape and getting fucked to an audience of young teenagers, but this dude says Absolutepunk is full of pussies and it's too offensive?
whataclush
07/14/09, 07:00 PM
Fuck This Fucker.
fuck you and your vaseline
JimGray
07/14/09, 07:04 PM
fuck you and your vaseline
Umm, word.
PaRaMoReROX
07/14/09, 08:52 PM
I just sent an email to Tate explaining that this "feud" is fucking stupid and this website needs to be responsible enough to at least cover music. Fuck personal differences. The site has no issue posting news about BrokenCYDE, Millionaires and Breathe Carolina who sing about date rape and getting fucked to an audience of young teenagers, but this dude says Absolutepunk is full of pussies and it's too offensive?
Agreed for sure.
symbiote28
07/14/09, 08:58 PM
and he shouldn't. I'd just rather believe somebody with such a quality voice wasn't such a tool.
this was one thing i was he was ..
dancelukedance
07/14/09, 10:05 PM
Tracklisting:
1. The Pain Loss
2. So Many Of Us Hide Our Black Hearts
3. Istillfeelher part111
4. What I Would Give To Be Australian
5. I've Been Hearing That You're Freaky
6. 7 AM, 2 Bottles And The Wrong Road
7. The Garbage Pail Kid Gang Bang
8. Taking Time For All The Wrong Things
9. No Matter How Hard I Dig They Always See Right Through Me
10. I'm Jonny Craig Bitch And I Drive In Reverse!
11. Children Of Divorce
i love how Children Of Divorce is the album closer.
Hahaha!
I can't wait for this
bjm1702
07/14/09, 10:41 PM
In other Jonny Craig reated news, has anyone listened to the acoustic version of Heads or Tails Real or Not on Emarosa's myspace?
His solo stuff sounds pretty good.
symbiote28
07/14/09, 10:49 PM
In other Jonny Craig reated news, has anyone listened to the acoustic version of Heads or Tails Real or Not on Emarosa's myspace?
His solo stuff sounds pretty good.
yup .. the acoustic version was good. my fav track of relativity is Heads Or Tail
PaRaMoReROX
07/14/09, 10:53 PM
Does anybody have the acoustic to Heads Or Tails in high quality?
Derka Derka
07/15/09, 06:57 AM
Tracklisting:
1. The Pain Loss
2. So Many Of Us Hide Our Black Hearts
3. Istillfeelher part111
4. What I Would Give To Be Australian
5. I've Been Hearing That You're Freaky
6. 7 AM, 2 Bottles And The Wrong Road
7. The Garbage Pail Kid Gang Bang
8. Taking Time For All The Wrong Things
9. No Matter How Hard I Dig They Always See Right Through Me
10. I'm Jonny Craig Bitch And I Drive In Reverse!
11. Children Of Divorce
i love how Children Of Divorce is the album closer.
that's an awesome song title
I just sent an email to Tate explaining that this "feud" is fucking stupid and this website needs to be responsible enough to at least cover music. Fuck personal differences. The site has no issue posting news about BrokenCYDE, Millionaires and Breathe Carolina who sing about date rape and getting fucked to an audience of young teenagers, but this dude says Absolutepunk is full of pussies and it's too offensive?
While I do agree that news should be posted, I do think that too much damage has been caused. There would probably be 200+ replies just saying "Fuck Jonny", which will only lead to more nasty comments from him. Posting the news would be like throwing gasoline on a fire.
fl3shcano3
07/15/09, 09:30 AM
I'm gonna go along with everyone else in this thread, and say I'm super excited to hear this, but at the same time I wish it was coming from someone with a better personality. Should be good though, I'll just have to forget who it is when I'm listening to it.
/:
Also, I hate what he did to Emarosa. Shit sucks now.
MrOctober430
07/16/09, 09:50 AM
he has such a good gospel sound it's awesome.
can't wait for this album and the new emarosa one aswell.
ShimmerAndSpill
07/16/09, 09:56 AM
Well, this will probably be horrible.
whataclush
07/16/09, 10:41 AM
Well, this will probably be horrible.
how?
I am Mick
07/16/09, 03:51 PM
He posted another new song....not sure how I feel about it yet.
I am Mick
07/16/09, 03:53 PM
The instrumentation is fucking horrific on this song. Vocals sound good as usual...but how he thought the music to this was good, I'll never know.
anthonydarko
07/16/09, 03:55 PM
I expect lyrics written by a middle school drop out.
Klatzke
07/16/09, 04:04 PM
The instrumentation is fucking horrific on this song. Vocals sound good as usual...but how he thought the music to this was good, I'll never know.
I don't see how it's that bad. I like the newest song.
I am Mick
07/16/09, 04:06 PM
I don't see how it's that bad. I like the newest song.
It started off good. I like the vocals. Then when it gets to the cheesy as hell synth/organ...it's shit I could make...and I'm terrible haha.
ShimmerAndSpill
07/16/09, 04:17 PM
how?
I just don't like Johnny Craig, and I think solo albums are horrible ideas and have no interest in them.
JonnyCraigsLove
07/16/09, 04:56 PM
I personally think jonnys new album is great.
(hearing the songs i've heard so far)
and i think its great.
something different for his voice.
:)
Derka Derka
07/16/09, 04:57 PM
It started off good. I like the vocals. Then when it gets to the cheesy as hell synth/organ...it's shit I could make...and I'm terrible haha.
yeah that synth killed it
JonnyCraigsLove
07/16/09, 04:57 PM
I just don't like Johnny Craig, and I think solo albums are horrible ideas and have no interest in them.
Jonny*
JonnyCraigsLove
07/16/09, 05:00 PM
It started off good. I like the vocals. Then when it gets to the cheesy as hell synth/organ...it's shit I could make...and I'm terrible haha.
i'm not gonna lie.
THAT part is pretty terrible,
idk what he was thinking =/
Klatzke
07/16/09, 05:25 PM
It started off good. I like the vocals. Then when it gets to the cheesy as hell synth/organ...it's shit I could make...and I'm terrible haha.
Eh. I still don't think it's that bad, and that isn't too prevalent in the song. Still 3/3 imo.
EDIT: IStillfeelherIII is definitely my favorite so far.
EDITII: on a somewhat related note, does anyone else find Craig Owens much less annoying in his solo stuff? Can't stand him in Chiodos, cinsun is okay, but I dig his solo songs.
thesafeword
07/16/09, 05:31 PM
I personally think jonnys new album is great.
(hearing the songs i've heard so far)
and i think its great.
something different for his voice.
:)
Well, you're just a little biased. You'd eat up an album of two gay guys having sex while playing a fucking ukulele as long as it had Jonny Craig's name on it.
Featuring nevershoutnever?
Eh. I still don't think it's that bad, and that isn't too prevalent in the song. Still 3/3 imo.
EDIT: IStillfeelherIII is definitely my favorite so far.
EDITII: on a somewhat related note, does anyone else find Craig Owens much less annoying in his solo stuff? Can't stand him in Chiodos, cinsun is okay, but I dig his solo songs.
Craig Owens can't even fucking stand himself.
Klatzke
07/16/09, 05:33 PM
Craig Owens can't even fucking stand himself.
Classy
thesafeword
07/16/09, 05:34 PM
Classy
Until he can succeed in something, even if it is killing himself, I won't let that fucker live down is bullshit 'look at me' suicide attempt.
ShimmerAndSpill
07/16/09, 07:41 PM
Jonny*
You'll understand if I don't give a shit about the spelling of his name.
Until he can succeed in something, even if it is killing himself, I won't let that fucker live down is bullshit 'look at me' suicide attempt.
lines been crossed
Klatzke
07/16/09, 07:45 PM
Until he can succeed in something, even if it is killing himself, I won't let that fucker live down is bullshit 'look at me' suicide attempt.
You'll understand if I don't give a shit about the spelling of his name.
You guys are so damn edgy. I bet it's great being you and having all kinds of witty responses to everything.
PaRaMoReROX
07/16/09, 07:46 PM
I enjoy all three songs thoroughly, however Children Of Divorce > I Still Feel Her III > 7 A.M., 2 Bottles And the Wrong Road
just looked at his wikipedia page, apparently dude was in ghost runner on third. i loved that fucking band after i found them on purevolume
Klatzke
07/16/09, 07:46 PM
I enjoy all three songs thoroughly, however Children Of Divorce > I Still Feel Her III > 7 A.M., 2 Bottles And the Wrong Road
lol nice location
PaRaMoReROX
07/16/09, 07:47 PM
just looked at his wikipedia page, apparently dude was in ghost runner on third. i loved that fucking band after i found them on purevolume
I enjoy their EP.
PaRaMoReROX
07/16/09, 07:47 PM
lol nice location
Thanks haha
symbiote28
07/16/09, 08:06 PM
it's funny though there won't be news on Jonny here but news about some fucked up shit like brokencyed, millionares, BOTDF.
Klatzke
07/16/09, 08:07 PM
it's funny though there won't be news on Jonny here but news about some fucked up shit like brokencyed, millionares, BOTDF.
It generates traffic is their excuse. So would news about Jonny but I guess he wronged AP too bad for that.
I saw his twitter convo with Jason Tate. Jason Tate was a dick to him for no reason.
whataclush
07/16/09, 08:24 PM
It started off good. I like the vocals. Then when it gets to the cheesy as hell synth/organ...it's shit I could make...and I'm terrible haha.
lucky its only there on the chorus, sounds like 1 of those baseball game songs haha the vocals were incredible as always but the acoustic ending pretty much saved the song.
thesafeword
07/16/09, 08:55 PM
lines been crossed
I haven't even started yet.
You guys are so damn edgy. I bet it's great being you and having all kinds of witty responses to everything.
It's great being you liing shitty music.
it's funny though there won't be news on Jonny here but news about some fucked up shit like brokencyed, millionares, BOTDF.
It's funny that this site is still bitching about brokencyde and the Millionaires.
MrOctober430
07/16/09, 09:16 PM
jonny craig is our future
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/mroctober430/craigthefuture.jpg
Klatzke
07/16/09, 09:17 PM
I haven't even started yet.
It's great being you liing shitty music.
It's funny that this site is still bitching about brokencyde and the Millionaires.
You're an idiot.
thesafeword
07/16/09, 09:21 PM
You're an idiot.
Did I hurt your feelings?
Klatzke
07/16/09, 09:23 PM
Did I hurt your feelings?
Not at all or you'd have actually raised a response out of me. You're just a jackass so i don't feel the need to argue with you.
thesafeword
07/16/09, 09:24 PM
Not at all or you'd have actually raised a response out of me. You're just a jackass so i don't feel the need to argue with you.
I'm a jackass for not falling for Craig Owens' bullshit cries for attention?
Klatzke
07/16/09, 09:47 PM
I'm a jackass for not falling for Craig Owens' bullshit cries for attention?
Nah.
I am Mick
07/16/09, 10:11 PM
I'm a jackass for not falling for Craig Owens' bullshit cries for attention?
Because failed suicide = attention starved. No ands, iffs, or buts. Grow the fuck up dude.
thesafeword
07/16/09, 10:15 PM
Because failed suicide = attention starved. No ands, iffs, or buts. Grow the fuck up dude.
Celebrities in America are so fucking hungry for attention that it seems like they'll do anything for it, I don't see how he is any different.
Because failed suicide = attention starved. No ands, iffs, or buts. Grow the fuck up dude.
this
I am Mick
07/16/09, 10:26 PM
Celebrities in America are so fucking hungry for attention that it seems like they'll do anything for it, I don't see how he is any different.
I'd hardly call Craig Owens a celebrity. I'm barely even a casual fan of his. You don't know the circumstances or what he was growing through. You're just being an asshole.
Drown_The_City
07/17/09, 01:24 AM
I've been stoked for this since he announced it forever ago.
and if he was actually "banned" from absolutepunk for saying he didn't like the As Cities Burn record...well the staff need to fucking grow up. I'm doubting this is the case though.
who ever listens to the music created by this toolbag needs to grow up
Drown_The_City
07/17/09, 01:26 AM
jonny craig is our future
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/mroctober430/craigthefuture.jpg
I really hope this is a fucking joke
doppelganger
07/17/09, 01:43 AM
im happy that i was the person who submitted the news where jonny bashed the as cities burn album. haha
Benny K
07/17/09, 04:56 AM
I expect lyrics written by a middle school drop out.
The emotion is there...his melodies and vocal prowess were always enough to instill powerful images in my mind
whataclush
07/17/09, 07:42 AM
who ever listens to the music created by this toolbag needs to grow up
wtf is your problem? if people like his music, then fuck it, quit whining, youre not going to undo everything that he's done.
MrOctober430
07/17/09, 07:49 AM
I really hope this is a fucking joke
naw it's on his myspace gotta look quick because the main photo covers it.
anybody know how to get the songs off myspace???
whataclush
07/17/09, 07:50 AM
I really hope this is a fucking joke
i do as well, jonny destroys him. the comparison is utterly stupid.
whataclush
07/17/09, 07:53 AM
naw it's on his myspace gotta look quick because the main photo covers it.
anybody know how to get the songs off myspace???
he meant the comparison is a joke.
ShimmerAndSpill
07/17/09, 06:56 PM
You guys are so damn edgy. I bet it's great being you and having all kinds of witty responses to everything.
Yes, I love being edgy.
thesafeword
07/17/09, 07:46 PM
who ever listens to the music created by this toolbag needs to grow up
Toolbag?
fakejazz
07/17/09, 07:48 PM
CHiodos only had one good album :V
AndrewIcex
07/17/09, 07:53 PM
I am far too lazy to look through the thread, when is this supposed to be released? And it would be nice of him to have an acoustic coffee shop show in Lexington or something.. would be nice.
Edit: August 18th.. found it.
Drown_The_City
07/18/09, 10:10 AM
he meant the comparison is a joke.
no im in shock people like this guy...
ThisIsNotDan
07/18/09, 10:21 AM
i do as well, jonny destroys him. the comparison is utterly stupid.
are you trying to say Jonny Craig is better than Michael Jackson? I'm guessing I read this wrong, but just making sure
whataclush
07/18/09, 01:32 PM
no im in shock people like this guy...
youre not shocked, youre just pissed.
whataclush
07/18/09, 01:36 PM
are you trying to say Jonny Craig is better than Michael Jackson? I'm guessing I read this wrong, but just making sure
as a singer.
Derka Derka
07/18/09, 02:38 PM
as a singer.
i don't agree at all
but that's your opinion
whataclush
07/18/09, 03:03 PM
i don't agree at all
but that's your opinion
why state the obvious?
Derka Derka
07/18/09, 03:14 PM
why state the obvious?
why not
whataclush
07/18/09, 03:19 PM
why not
well lets c, both of us exist, are alive and live somewhere in the universe.
just letting you know.
I am Mick
07/18/09, 03:22 PM
Why do people go into threads of bands they don't like just to talk shit? You really have nothing better to do? Why don't you back to jerking off to the Brand New thread or something?
Derka Derka
07/18/09, 03:26 PM
well lets c, both of us exist, are alive and live somewhere in the universe.
just letting you know.
alright, i was just saying it to clarify that i respect your opinion on the matter and that i don't think negatively towards you because of your opinion on said matter
liquideasy
07/18/09, 03:36 PM
His solo stuff sounds really awesome. I was kind of surprised because I don't really dig Emarosa. They're not bad, I just don't get why people think their so much better than anyone else.
dancelukedance
07/18/09, 03:48 PM
The new song is awesome
Wow I can't believe all the haters, well I do think he is a better singer than micheal jackson too. Don't get me wrong MJ was a good singer, but he just doesn't compare to Jonny.
fakejazz
07/18/09, 05:51 PM
jonny craig is definitely the future
GamabuntaSS
07/18/09, 09:16 PM
I can't wait to hear this album!!!
dancelukedance
07/18/09, 09:46 PM
Tracklisting:
1. The Pain Loss
2. So Many Of Us Hide Our Black Hearts
3. Istillfeelher part111
4. What I Would Give To Be Australian
5. I've Been Hearing That You're Freaky
6. 7 AM, 2 Bottles And The Wrong Road
7. The Garbage Pail Kid Gang Bang
8. Taking Time For All The Wrong Things
9. No Matter How Hard I Dig They Always See Right Through Me
10. I'm Jonny Craig Bitch And I Drive In Reverse!
11. Children Of Divorce
Hey, do we know which tracks feature the guest vocals?
jtsnazzy
07/18/09, 09:51 PM
Hey, do we know which tracks feature the guest vocals?
Hopefully, none. Jonny or gtfo.
dancelukedance
07/18/09, 09:55 PM
Hopefully, none. Jonny or gtfo.
huh?
its confirmed that there's guests
jtsnazzy
07/18/09, 10:01 PM
huh?
its confirmed that there's guests
That sucks. Hopefully there isn't many =/
dancelukedance
07/18/09, 10:03 PM
That sucks. Hopefully there isn't many =/
Kurt from Dance gavin Dance is one of them.
It doesnt suck a'tall
jtsnazzy
07/18/09, 10:06 PM
I could listen to Jonny sing the freecreditreport.com commercials and be pumped. So anytime another singer takes away from Jonny is time I spend hitting fast forward.
Agraceful
07/18/09, 10:24 PM
Eh, I respect Kurt. I mean, he might not be as epic as Jonny, but who else do you think could've done a better job of replacing him in DGD?
This solo album is going to be LEGENDARY.
whataclush
07/18/09, 10:29 PM
Eh, I respect Kurt. I mean, he might not be as epic as Jonny, but who else do you think could've done a better job of replacing him in DGD?
This solo album is going to be LEGENDARY.
Zack de la Rocha, Hayley Williams, Amy Lee ect...
Agraceful
07/18/09, 10:30 PM
Who the hell would want HAYLEY WILLIAMS to be in Dance Gavin Dance?
whataclush
07/18/09, 10:35 PM
Who the hell would want HAYLEY WILLIAMS to be in Dance Gavin Dance?
you said "who else do you think could've done a better job of replacing him"
any vocalist vocally supperior, can do a better job than kurt.
AndrewIcex
07/18/09, 10:50 PM
are you trying to say Jonny Craig is better than Michael Jackson? I'm guessing I read this wrong, but just making sure
I sure hope that's not what they mean..
as a singer.
Umm what?
dancelukedance
07/18/09, 11:11 PM
you said "who else do you think could've done a better job of replacing him"
any vocalist vocally supperior, can do a better job than kurt.
But Kurt is a brilliant vocalist
Agraceful
07/18/09, 11:30 PM
Amen to that.
symbiote28
07/19/09, 03:25 AM
Hey, do we know which tracks feature the guest vocals?
good question. even i'll like to know that. haha
whataclush
07/19/09, 05:54 AM
I sure hope that's not what they mean..
Umm what?
sure thats what i mean, michael is overrated. good singer, great dancer, great music. thats it. nothing more stood out to me. overoveroverrated, as a singer.
whataclush
07/19/09, 05:55 AM
But Kurt is a brilliant vocalist
not really, hes pretty average.
Jennifer Scott
07/19/09, 09:58 AM
jonny craig is our future
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/mroctober430/craigthefuture.jpg
Is this a serious post? Really?
Drown_The_City
07/19/09, 01:21 PM
youre not shocked, youre just pissed.
I guess I didnt know how popular those dime a dozen scream sing pretend bands like emarosa, dance gavin dance were
Drown_The_City
07/19/09, 01:22 PM
Is this a serious post? Really?
lets hope not. Hes not the next MJ or even anyone remotely close
dancelukedance
07/19/09, 04:01 PM
not really, hes pretty average.
Na
whataclush
07/19/09, 04:16 PM
Na
yes, although he is in no average band.
Eich696
07/19/09, 04:20 PM
not really, hes pretty average.
I would say he sounded above average on Happiness.
AndrewIcex
07/19/09, 10:00 PM
sure thats what i mean, michael is overrated. good singer, great dancer, great music. thats it. nothing more stood out to me. overoveroverrated, as a singer.
Honestly? Have you heard him?
Truman122
07/19/09, 11:33 PM
I read this thread, and thought the title said "Johnny Cash "...I thought he was pulling a Tupac for a second.
whataclush
07/20/09, 09:31 AM
Honestly? Have you heard him?
ok, he was a great singer? but he's not on my top 10, ill leave it at that.
AndrewIcex
07/20/09, 10:19 AM
ok, he was a great singer? but he's not on my top 10, ill leave it at that.
That's fine and all.. cause its all personal "opinion" but thinking he is a better singer than someone like MJ.. that just seems way too far fetched for my liking.
dancelukedance
07/21/09, 03:34 PM
Nic Newsham!
He's the other guest
more heart
07/21/09, 08:33 PM
There's a new song off the record that's been posted on the Rise MySpace(http://www.myspace.com/riserecords). It's not too bad.
Klatzke
07/21/09, 08:33 PM
There's a new song off the record that's been posted on the Rise MySpace(http://www.myspace.com/riserecords). It's not too bad.
Better than the others posted so far?
more heart
07/21/09, 08:35 PM
Better than the others posted so far?
:shrug:
I didn't know he's released anything more than that song.
Klatzke
07/21/09, 08:39 PM
:shrug:
I didn't know he's released anything more than that song.
myspace.com/jonnycraig there's 3 up.
more heart
07/21/09, 08:40 PM
myspace.com/jonnycraig there's 3 up.
Haha I just checked that out not even 10 seconds ago. I didn't know he had anything up ther since there wasn't any music up there for the longest time. Not even demos or anything.
Klatzke
07/21/09, 08:41 PM
Haha I just checked that out not even 10 seconds ago. I didn't know he had anything up ther since there wasn't any music up there for the longest time. Not even demos or anything.
Yeah it was completely blank up until like 2 weeks ago.
more heart
07/21/09, 08:44 PM
Yeah it was completely blank up until like 2 weeks ago.
I didn't really check it too often haha.
Klatzke
07/21/09, 08:48 PM
I didn't really check it too often haha.
mmhmm. Songs up are rather good.
more heart
07/21/09, 08:52 PM
mmhmm. Songs up are rather good.
I'll check them out later. Not really in a Jonny Craig mood tonight.
dancelukedance
07/21/09, 09:21 PM
The newest song is top notch
symbiote28
07/22/09, 10:51 PM
anybody pre-ordered this already?
dancelukedance
07/23/09, 01:50 AM
anybody pre-ordered this already?
Can it pre ordered now? if so, i will be...
symbiote28
07/23/09, 02:21 AM
Can it pre ordered now? if so, i will be...
i saw a link on Rise Records official site.
I am Mick
07/24/09, 11:53 AM
Anyone think it's fucked that Jonny still isn't getting news posts when Jefree Star, who intentionally offends anyone he can and fucking ELECTROCUTES someone still gets news posts?
dancelukedance
07/24/09, 04:04 PM
Anyone think it's fucked that Jonny still isn't getting news posts when Jefree Star, who intentionally offends anyone he can and fucking ELECTROCUTES someone still gets news posts?
I agree, some of the dodgiest bands are getting news posts...
Mytsic Bullshit
07/24/09, 04:17 PM
I agree, some of the dodgiest bands are getting news posts...
true that!
alexa_ATL
07/24/09, 04:34 PM
Anyone think it's fucked that Jonny still isn't getting news posts when Jefree Star, who intentionally offends anyone he can and fucking ELECTROCUTES someone still gets news posts?
this.
batmannj
07/24/09, 06:55 PM
I like Johnny's voice so I might check this out, but my goodness that album art is absolutely hideous
Mytsic Bullshit
07/24/09, 07:51 PM
I love his voice omfg!
symbiote28
07/24/09, 08:06 PM
Anyone think it's fucked that Jonny still isn't getting news posts when Jefree Star, who intentionally offends anyone he can and fucking ELECTROCUTES someone still gets news posts?
you're not the only one seriously.
kevinjordan
07/26/09, 12:34 PM
I don't think there's a point of putting out a solo album for this guy... his main band isn't even that big yet, and the solo stuff sounds like soft Emarosa. I could see if it was like Polka or something, but none of this stuff would sound out of place on an Emarosa record.
I am Mick
07/26/09, 06:43 PM
I don't think there's a point of putting out a solo album for this guy... his main band isn't even that big yet, and the solo stuff sounds like soft Emarosa. I could see if it was like Polka or something, but none of this stuff would sound out of place on an Emarosa record.
I don't think any of those songs sound like they could possibly be an Emarosa song.
whataclush
07/26/09, 09:46 PM
I don't think there's a point of putting out a solo album for this guy... his main band isn't even that big yet, and the solo stuff sounds like soft Emarosa. I could see if it was like Polka or something, but none of this stuff would sound out of place on an Emarosa record.
take into acount that emarosa had no fucking fan base before jonny, at all.
Bi11 Lumburgh
07/26/09, 10:05 PM
Anyone think it's fucked that Jonny still isn't getting news posts when Jefree Star, who intentionally offends anyone he can and fucking ELECTROCUTES someone still gets news posts?
I agree totally, jonny must've said something that didn't sit right with jason, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't post news about his music, this site needs a more unbiased view on the industry, everyone has their own opinions and tastes in music, and when I come to a music news site, I would like to have an impartial news feed, not one that sucks the balls of blink, thrice, and brand new, gotta learn to keep business and personal life seperate
Derka Derka
07/26/09, 10:16 PM
take into acount that emarosa had no fucking fan base before jonny, at all.
they had a fan base before him, it might not have been as big as it is now but they had fans
my old band played a show that corsets are cages headlined and there were tons of kids there for them
i'm guessing you never heard of them or at least weren't a fan until jonny joined
whataclush
07/26/09, 10:26 PM
they had a fan base before him, it might not have been as big as it is now but they had fans
my old band played a show that corsets are cages headlined and there were tons of kids there for them
i'm guessing you never heard of them or at least weren't a fan until jonny joined
yes, they had A fan base. i wasnt a "fan," but i did start listening to them in 07, downloaded their music, didnt really care much. i didnt add them on myspace until jonny came into the band, not even 30 K fans compared to the 100 K that jonny left w/ dgd. truth is, they owe their careers to jonny.
Derka Derka
07/26/09, 10:33 PM
yes, they had A fan base. i wasnt a "fan," but i did start listening to them in 07, downloaded their music, didnt really care much. i didnt add them on myspace until jonny came into the band, not even 30 K fans compared to the 100 K that jonny left w/ dgd. truth is, they owe their careers to jonny.
jonny joining definitely helped them but a singer doesn't make a band, yes he's good but imagine if it was only him singing, not many people would listen now put some pretty good guitars, bass and drums behind it and it makes it a whole lot better
i think another one of the reasons jonny joining helped them is because all singing and no screaming is going to be more popular because there are still a lot of people who don't like screaming. so in a sense they did go more mainstream in deciding that they weren't going to do away with those kinds of vocals
in conclusion i'm just saying that one man doesn't make a band, if you have ever been in a band you'd know this
whataclush
07/26/09, 10:50 PM
jonny joining definitely helped them but a singer doesn't make a band, yes he's good but imagine if it was only him singing, not many people would listen now put some pretty good guitars, bass and drums behind it and it makes it a whole lot better
i think another one of the reasons jonny joining helped them is because all singing and no screaming is going to be more popular because there are still a lot of people who don't like screaming. so in a sense they did go more mainstream in deciding that they weren't going to do away with those kinds of vocals
in conclusion i'm just saying that one man doesn't make a band, if you have ever been in a band you'd know this
i understand what youre saying, obviously 1 guy doesnt make the entirety of the band, but 1 guys popularity, really can be the reason a band gets immensely popular. imagine APC without maynard. i guarantee atleast half of their base is due to the tool fans. you dont sell 188,000 albums on your bands debut out of sheer luck.... i would actually say that emarosa would be a lot bigger in the scene if they had a screamer and breakdowns, since thats basically what the scene is. on the other hand, they really can get signed by a big label and be mtv friendly since they have no screaming or breakdowns. my basic response to the idiot who said jonny shouldnt be a solo artist, is the fact that emarosa was basically at square 1 when jonny joined, jonny was already a big name, and still is the only recognizable name on the label.
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