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SD_John
07/01/09, 10:33 AM
Has anyone tried it? I know a friend who has made some cymbals and the said they turned out well. He made a 20" ride and 19" hi-hats haha. He made that hats for a gig where he used two kits combined into one. A Standard kit, and a trap kit, so it was kinda like a double bass, but yet it wasn't.

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs090.snc1/4642_1134821020297_1520464630_31347 6_1025862_n.jpg

Yamaha recording customs. They're his dads though, hes 15.

So if you have, post where you learned how to and what you made and how it turned out!

patrickhowell
07/01/09, 12:09 PM
You're saying a 15 year old made his own cymbals? Sorry, but I don't buy it...

SD_John
07/01/09, 01:45 PM
With the help of a friend who is i think 18. I don't think you realize much about this generation.

Silzildrummer
07/01/09, 01:54 PM
19" hi-hats?

ACA
07/01/09, 02:22 PM
I'd love to see a video of someone making cymbals, I only know how to repair them.

SD_John
07/01/09, 02:47 PM
19" hi-hats?

for the lulz, of course.

muttley
07/01/09, 04:36 PM
I'll leave the making of my cymbals to Zildjian.
I don't have the patience or the knowledge to do it myself.

Esrb99
07/01/09, 09:26 PM
eww zildjian.

meinl or paiste ftw... in my experience, NO two same model zildjians sound remotely the same...

apsterling
07/01/09, 09:36 PM
eww zildjian.

meinl or paiste ftw... in my experience, NO two same model zildjians sound remotely the same...

That means they're doing something right?

muttley
07/01/09, 10:03 PM
That means they're doing something right?

I don't get that either...

I've always been in favor of Zildjian. I haven't really tried any other cymbals. I'm too content with Zildjian.

screamoutmyname
07/01/09, 10:05 PM
Seems like it might be more of a hassle to me, rather than just buying some. Although it would be pretty cool to say you actually made a cymbal haha

apsterling
07/01/09, 10:12 PM
I don't get that either...

I've always been in favor of Zildjian. I haven't really tried any other cymbals. I'm too content with Zildjian.

I've played several other brands. Meinls sound good but there's something about them that feels weird to me, it's just a preference thing. I've found that Sabians and Zildjians are about equal, and then I can't get into Paiste or the other smaller brands. Something about em' just seems cheap.

I'm gonna stick to Zildjian unless something really catches my eye elsewhere- because Zildjian has top notch customer service.

muttley
07/01/09, 10:23 PM
I've played several other brands. Meinls sound good but there's something about them that feels weird to me, it's just a preference thing. I've found that Sabians and Zildjians are about equal, and then I can't get into Paiste or the other smaller brands. Something about em' just seems cheap.

I'm gonna stick to Zildjian unless something really catches my eye elsewhere- because Zildjian has top notch customer service.

Exactly. Ever since they released the new K Crash/Rides, I have had absolutely no complaints. Except the rise in prices...

apsterling
07/01/09, 10:28 PM
Exactly. Ever since they released the new K Crash/Rides, I have had absolutely no complaints. Except the rise in prices...

Yeah, the pricing hurts me. But the fact that I'm probably gonna wind up with another top hat free isn't hurting at all.

Esrb99
07/02/09, 10:52 AM
That means they're doing something right?

I usually buy off musiciansfriend for everything, as the local music store has a small selection, and above retail prices. for cymbals I usually look at the local store and see which ones I like. used sabians for a long time- would always go in and see what I liked. sabian's are also sheet cymbals, wheras zildjians i've used are cast, so that may be the issue. regardless, a friend and I went into the local music store to pick a new crash. the one we found had a great sound, but when we got it back from online, it was completely different. i've also ordered at least one zildjian crash, and was unsatisfied as well. wuhan's the same way as zildjian

patrickhowell
07/02/09, 11:16 AM
I usually buy off musiciansfriend for everything, as the local music store has a small selection, and above retail prices. for cymbals I usually look at the local store and see which ones I like. used sabians for a long time- would always go in and see what I liked. sabian's are also sheet cymbals, wheras zildjians i've used are cast, so that may be the issue. regardless, a friend and I went into the local music store to pick a new crash. the one we found had a great sound, but when we got it back from online, it was completely different. i've also ordered at least one zildjian crash, and was unsatisfied as well. wuhan's the same way as zildjian

Zildjian and Sabian both make sheet and cast cymbals.

apsterling
07/02/09, 11:25 AM
I usually buy off musiciansfriend for everything, as the local music store has a small selection, and above retail prices. for cymbals I usually look at the local store and see which ones I like. used sabians for a long time- would always go in and see what I liked. sabian's are also sheet cymbals, wheras zildjians i've used are cast, so that may be the issue. regardless, a friend and I went into the local music store to pick a new crash. the one we found had a great sound, but when we got it back from online, it was completely different. i've also ordered at least one zildjian crash, and was unsatisfied as well. wuhan's the same way as zildjian
Well, some of that is the room the cymbal is in, it's gonna sound different in different places.

TheSkyline
07/02/09, 12:41 PM
You're saying a 15 year old made his own cymbals? Sorry, but I don't buy it...

I built a guitar from scratch when I was 15, remember?

apsterling
07/02/09, 12:46 PM
I built a guitar from scratch when I was 15, remember?

Guitar from scratch is different from cymbals.
Building a guitar is more like assembling a set of shells with lugs and heads etc.
Building cymbals would be like making your own pickup.

SD_John
07/02/09, 03:02 PM
I usually buy off musiciansfriend for everything, as the local music store has a small selection, and above retail prices. for cymbals I usually look at the local store and see which ones I like. used sabians for a long time- would always go in and see what I liked. sabian's are also sheet cymbals, wheras zildjians i've used are cast, so that may be the issue. regardless, a friend and I went into the local music store to pick a new crash. the one we found had a great sound, but when we got it back from online, it was completely different. i've also ordered at least one zildjian crash, and was unsatisfied as well. wuhan's the same way as zildjian

How a cymbal sounds in one room will be completely different in a different room. it still has the same sound, its the just the room construction that changes the sound. Thats why the sounded different.

TheSkyline
07/02/09, 08:22 PM
Guitar from scratch is different from cymbals.
Building a guitar is more like assembling a set of shells with lugs and heads etc.
Building cymbals would be like making your own pickup.

I built the guitar from scratch, like, it was a block of wood. I cut the body and everything. I think that would be at least close to making a cymbal. How exactly do you go about doing that anyways? I thought you had to like melt down different metals and stuff... as in not something you could do yourself without putting your neighborhood at risk of catching on fire. haha

apsterling
07/02/09, 08:51 PM
I built the guitar from scratch, like, it was a block of wood. I cut the body and everything. I think that would be at least close to making a cymbal. How exactly do you go about doing that anyways? I thought you had to like melt down different metals and stuff... as in not something you could do yourself without putting your neighborhood at risk of catching on fire. haha

Exactly my point. Yours is doable. Ours... well, really isn't.
Yours is maybe building shells then if it's not just assembly.

TheSkyline
07/02/09, 08:53 PM
Exactly my point. Yours is doable. Ours... well, really isn't.
Yours is maybe building shells then if it's not just assembly.

Okay, but then why would a thread be made about building cymbals if its something that can't be done in the first place?

Edit: And I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, I'm just honestly wondering why. hahah

apsterling
07/02/09, 09:43 PM
Okay, but then why would a thread be made about building cymbals if its something that can't be done in the first place?

Edit: And I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, I'm just honestly wondering why. hahah

We're all wondering the same thing, to be honest, I'm sure.

OveriseFan
07/02/09, 09:45 PM
Okay, but then why would a thread be made about building cymbals if its something that can't be done in the first place?


It can't be done? Um... someone makes those cymbals. They don't fall from heaven.

It's not practical for most people, but some people have access to the facilities and materials needed... He's simply asking for people who have the experience to discuss it; if you don't - move along. Let this thread die... he'll soon realize people here don't have that kind of experience.

muttley
07/02/09, 09:49 PM
It can't be done? Um... someone makes those cymbals. They don't fall from heaven.

It's not practical for most people, but some people have access to the facilities and materials needed... He's simply asking for people who have the experience to discuss it; if you don't - move along. Let this thread die... he'll soon realize people here don't have that kind of experience.

I don't know...
My Mastersound Hats are pretty sexy. Surely no man had anything to do with them.

muttley
07/02/09, 09:50 PM
Anyways, I'm sure you could make your own cymbals if you had all of the equipment, but just so you know, that's a lot of equipment.

OveriseFan
07/02/09, 09:51 PM
I don't know...
My Mastersound Hats are pretty sexy. Surely no man had anything to do with them.

Hahahaha. Guess I'm wrong then. ;-)

I wish I had the money/space to get a small kit... but I just know it won't be practical for me to play at home - so I have to just play at school.

OveriseFan
07/02/09, 09:51 PM
Anyways, I'm sure you could make your own cymbals if you had all of the equipment, but just so you know, that's a lot of equipment.

Haha. Obviously. I said, it wasn't practical for most people, but if someone's parents or friends have access to it - why not?

As someone said earlier, it would be awesome to say "I made my own cymbals."

muttley
07/02/09, 09:58 PM
Haha. Obviously. I said, it wasn't practical for most people, but if someone's parents or friends have access to it - why not?

As someone said earlier, it would be awesome to say "I made my own cymbals."

I missed both of those posts.

OveriseFan
07/02/09, 10:01 PM
I missed both of those posts.

Haha. No worries, then.

(It's pretty bizarre to see on a general music forum about making cymbals... does he think ANYONE here has experience doing it? I'd be shocked if anyone did.)

TheSkyline
07/02/09, 10:04 PM
It can't be done? Um... someone makes those cymbals. They don't fall from heaven.

It's not practical for most people, but some people have access to the facilities and materials needed... He's simply asking for people who have the experience to discuss it; if you don't - move along. Let this thread die... he'll soon realize people here don't have that kind of experience.

Haha, when I said no one, I meant people who don't make the cymbals in a facility with all of the resources needed. I was honestly just wondering how someone (a normal dude) can make a cymbal.

patrickhowell
07/05/09, 11:34 AM
I built the guitar from scratch, like, it was a block of wood. I cut the body and everything. I think that would be at least close to making a cymbal. How exactly do you go about doing that anyways? I thought you had to like melt down different metals and stuff... as in not something you could do yourself without putting your neighborhood at risk of catching on fire. haha

Yeah, you made the guitar out of a block of wood, and that is REALLY impressive... but have you seen the kind of work that goes into making cymbals?

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