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Rohan Kohli
02/19/06, 04:54 PM
Click here (http://www.resonatormag.com/feature.php?id=3463) to read a review of a recent Panic! At the Disco (http://www.panicatthedisco.com) show.
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Brownpants06
02/19/06, 04:57 PM
Sounds good!
GlassyLight
02/19/06, 05:00 PM
So fucking true. These guys were horrible live.
ProjectMayhem33
02/19/06, 05:04 PM
they got owned
shwagtm
02/19/06, 05:06 PM
awesome review. love the last picture and its caption.
Rohan Kohli
02/19/06, 05:06 PM
So fucking true. These guys were horrible live.
Not when I saw them. My roommate, who some of you might say listens to "good" or "real" music, thought they were awesome... and he usually hates the stuff I listen to.
Fballstr
02/19/06, 05:07 PM
what a trite condescending bitch...
FeynmanWannabe
02/19/06, 05:11 PM
In all honesty, I was considering paying the $25K that they ask for to perform live, but now not so much. :\
brammyg
02/19/06, 05:13 PM
Thank god Hot Topic isn't in Canada, otherwise there would have been tons of those girls at the Toronto show. I have to admit, going into that concert, I was expecting a girl to boyratio of 10:1. But even in line i realized that there must have been an equal number. It turns out everyone was there just to have a great time and yes, dance. However, Panic! should really find an extra memeber to do some electronica samples. The fact that it's coming from a machine pisses me off.
tambo41187
02/19/06, 05:14 PM
There are far worse live bands out there.
elvis2x
02/19/06, 05:18 PM
That review is funny.
00spool
02/19/06, 05:18 PM
No they didn't get Owned.
This reviewer obviously doesn't like anything or anyone. ever.
I don't know what the motiviation behind #1 going to see the show in the first place and #2 wasting their time writing that much negativity about something. They're obviously bitter.
I saw Panic! twice on this current tour. Both times the 1-2,000 plus crowd went apeshit. the energy was palpable and the band did a great (considering they've only been a band for 2 years) job onstage of being energetic and charismatic.
True there were no synths, cello's, violins or accordians on stage but this is an opening act. How much time do you think would need to be spent between acts just to set all that up and soundcheck it? It was good to see that the reviewer gave props to the sound engineer (was he surprised that she was female? Her name is Trish by the way.) and if all that on-stage hoopla is whaqt you really need in order to have a good time then look out for Panic!s upcoming spring tour. a little birdie told me that it's going to have all that and more and should be very "theatrical"
A few more questions. What does the overall age of the audience matter when judging a band? what was the average age of the Beatles fans when they hit the U.S.? how about U2's? I remember my entire 8th grade absolutely LOVED Joshua Tree when it came out and U2 used to have concerts on Nickelodeon what is there age demographic?
Bottom line this reviewer is an elitist (this is what they put as an occupation in their profile: "listening NOW to what you'll be listening to in two years...your cool bores me. i was there.") so take whatever they say with a grain of salt. if it's popular (which Panic! apparently are. They won't like it. It must be lonely to be so much better than everyone.
1000shadesofred
02/19/06, 05:21 PM
could someone please review the new Brightwood EP "The Love Antidote" which just came out yesterday the 18th... the 3 songs on myspace are amazing
No they didn't get Owned.
This reviewer obviously doesn't like anything or anyone. ever.
I don't know what the motiviation behind #1 going to see the show in the first place and #2 wasting their time writing that much negativity about something. They're obviously bitter.
I saw Panic! twice on this current tour. Both times the 1-2,000 plus crowd went apeshit. the energy was palpable and the band did a great (considering they've only been a band for 2 years) job onstage of being energetic and charismatic.
True there were no synths, cello's, violins or accordians on stage but this is an opening act. How much time do you think would need to be spent between acts just to set all that up and soundcheck it? It was good to see that the reviewer gave props to the sound engineer (was he surprised that she was female? Her name is Trish by the way.) and if all that on-stage hoopla is whaqt you really need in order to have a good time then look out for Panic!s upcoming spring tour. a little birdie told me that it's going to have all that and more and should be very "theatrical"
A few more questions. What does the overall age of the audience matter when judging a band? what was the average age of the Beatles fans when they hit the U.S.? how about U2's? I remember my entire 8th grade absolutely LOVED Joshua Tree when it came out and U2 used to have concerts on Nickelodeon what is there age demographic?
Bottom line this reviewer is an elitist (this is what they put as an occupation in their profile: "listening NOW to what you'll be listening to in two years...your cool bores me. i was there.") so take whatever they say with a grain of salt. if it's popular (which Panic! apparently are. They won't like it. It must be lonely to be so much better than everyone.
I agree with the question about all of his negativity and also with dumb elitist
No they didn't get Owned.
This reviewer obviously doesn't like anything or anyone. ever.
I don't know what the motiviation behind #1 going to see the show in the first place and #2 wasting their time writing that much negativity about something. They're obviously bitter.
I saw Panic! twice on this current tour. Both times the 1-2,000 plus crowd went apeshit. the energy was palpable and the band did a great (considering they've only been a band for 2 years) job onstage of being energetic and charismatic.
True there were no synths, cello's, violins or accordians on stage but this is an opening act. How much time do you think would need to be spent between acts just to set all that up and soundcheck it? It was good to see that the reviewer gave props to the sound engineer (was he surprised that she was female? Her name is Trish by the way.) and if all that on-stage hoopla is whaqt you really need in order to have a good time then look out for Panic!s upcoming spring tour. a little birdie told me that it's going to have all that and more and should be very "theatrical"
A few more questions. What does the overall age of the audience matter when judging a band? what was the average age of the Beatles fans when they hit the U.S.? how about U2's? I remember my entire 8th grade absolutely LOVED Joshua Tree when it came out and U2 used to have concerts on Nickelodeon what is there age demographic?
Bottom line this reviewer is an elitist (this is what they put as an occupation in their profile: "listening NOW to what you'll be listening to in two years...your cool bores me. i was there.") so take whatever they say with a grain of salt. if it's popular (which Panic! apparently are. They won't like it. It must be lonely to be so much better than everyone.
nice post.
that dude is definately an elitist. it could've been the best concert in history and he would've still hated it. yeah he's an awesome journalist, totally unbiased. he should have sold his ticket and wrote an article about how bad they suck. what a jackass. he's a shitty writer too.
Manbotisdead
02/19/06, 05:24 PM
No they didn't get Owned.
This reviewer obviously doesn't like anything or anyone. ever.
I don't know what the motiviation behind #1 going to see the show in the first place and #2 wasting their time writing that much negativity about something. They're obviously bitter.
I saw Panic! twice on this current tour. Both times the 1-2,000 plus crowd went apeshit. the energy was palpable and the band did a great (considering they've only been a band for 2 years) job onstage of being energetic and charismatic.
True there were no synths, cello's, violins or accordians on stage but this is an opening act. How much time do you think would need to be spent between acts just to set all that up and soundcheck it? It was good to see that the reviewer gave props to the sound engineer (was he surprised that she was female? Her name is Trish by the way.) and if all that on-stage hoopla is whaqt you really need in order to have a good time then look out for Panic!s upcoming spring tour. a little birdie told me that it's going to have all that and more and should be very "theatrical"
A few more questions. What does the overall age of the audience matter when judging a band? what was the average age of the Beatles fans when they hit the U.S.? how about U2's? I remember my entire 8th grade absolutely LOVED Joshua Tree when it came out and U2 used to have concerts on Nickelodeon what is there age demographic?
Bottom line this reviewer is an elitist (this is what they put as an occupation in their profile: "listening NOW to what you'll be listening to in two years...your cool bores me. i was there.") so take whatever they say with a grain of salt. if it's popular (which Panic! apparently are. They won't like it. It must be lonely to be so much better than everyone.
I'm actually a fan of the cd, but I for one am inclined to agree with this reviewer. I am a firm believer that the live show should be just as good and real as possible as the cd. When they aren't playing the synth because they aren't able to multitask that is just pathetic. I lose alot of respect for bands who can't play their music anywhere except the studio.
He's making perfect snese their dude, deal with it.
fortyparachutes
02/19/06, 05:29 PM
sure he's a condescending jerk...but he's entertaining
RockVocalPower
02/19/06, 05:30 PM
that dude is definately an elitist. it could've been the best concert in history and he would've still hated it. yeah he's an awesome journalist, totally unbiased. he should have sold his ticket and wrote an article about how bad they suck. what a jackass. he's a shitty writer too.
Sorry skip, but bias is inherent in all aspects of life. The solution to good journalism isn't objectivity of journalists, it's the objectivity of the METHOD used to report.
That being said, this is a very biased review, but very true.
Electric Child
02/19/06, 05:31 PM
It's funny, cause the music that elitlists do listen to is always good. If being elitlist is defined as not liking shitty manufactured trite crap like patd, then I will gladly take the title.
fedhed7
02/19/06, 05:31 PM
I saw Panic live a few weeks ago... They were ok, nothing special. Acceptance and TAI pwned.
FeynmanWannabe
02/19/06, 05:31 PM
could someone please review the new Brightwood EP "The Love Antidote" which just came out yesterday the 18th... the 3 songs on myspace are amazing
C'mon...It's right on the front page: http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=115788 :shake:
Darren McLeod
02/19/06, 05:34 PM
could someone please review the new Brightwood EP "The Love Antidote" which just came out yesterday the 18th... the 3 songs on myspace are amazing
Scroll down the page and look on the left hand side. All of the latest reviews are there. Also, on our reviews page, it shows the most recent reviews, and you can also search for any review you want.
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=115788 for that review.
Drew Beringer
02/19/06, 05:35 PM
I agree, I hated their live show when I went to the Fusion tour.
youareallfreaks
02/19/06, 05:36 PM
this guy needs to get laid or something.
kshtoinks12
02/19/06, 05:37 PM
i wouldn't say panic was ineffibly horrific, in fact i'd say that their shows are extremly entertaining and it doesn't take an rocket scientist to see that whenever Panic! At The Disco takes the stage, the crowd goes nuts.
that made me laugh a little bit. i love panic. they aren't the best live, but they'll get better with more practice. they haven't been playing that long.
GlassyLight
02/19/06, 05:59 PM
True there were no synths, cello's, violins or accordians on stage but this is an opening act. How much time do you think would need to be spent between acts just to set all that up and soundcheck it?
Friday I went to see Lucky Boys Confusion here in Iowa City. Regardless of what you think of them, both the second of 3 and the headlining bands had synths/keys and neither of them took more than 15-20 minutes to get everything set up, and it sounded fantastic. You can get synth patches for the cellos/violins/accordians, it could be done.
The band has said in the past that when they get large enough and have enough money to do it, they will be adding a live synth player. Just give them some time. It's similar to how when Reggie tours as an opener, they only have 4 or 5 members, but when they did their headlining tour with Midtown, My Chemical Romance and Senses Fail a few years back, they had at least 8 people on stage playing.
00spool
02/19/06, 06:15 PM
Friday I went to see Lucky Boys Confusion here in Iowa City. Regardless of what you think of them, both the second of 3 and the headlining bands had synths/keys and neither of them took more than 15-20 minutes to get everything set up, and it sounded fantastic. You can get synth patches for the cellos/violins/accordians, it could be done.
Panic! has a piano on stage. The synths, cello's, violins, and other instrumentation on the album is too complex to recreate just by adding one synthesizer on-stage. Like I said, wait for their upcoming spring tour.
youareallfreaks
02/19/06, 06:15 PM
The band has said in the past that when they get large enough and have enough money to do it, they will be adding a live synth player. Just give them some time. It's similar to how when Reggie tours as an opener, they only have 4 or 5 members, but when they did their headlining tour with Midtown, My Chemical Romance and Senses Fail a few years back, they had at least 8 people on stage playing.
i like your tag line
domesticyeti
02/19/06, 06:32 PM
i do agree that using the pre-recorded stuff is dissapointing. Even if they can't multitask it, they could have a touring synth player or something. Plenty of other bands do it that way.
I was a fan of the CD, but the live footage i've seen is dissapointing.
Especially the drummer. I feel kinda bad that he doesnt have more to do in the band.
GAD_guy
02/19/06, 06:37 PM
"With the show time being as early as it was, this was proof that a lot of parents had to leave work right at 5 to get home, get their kids into the S.U.V., and then off to Hot Topic in time to get them to what could have very well been their first concert ever."
if this isn't the truest statement ever, i don't know what is.
dontfront
02/19/06, 06:51 PM
No they didn't get Owned.
This reviewer obviously doesn't like anything or anyone. ever.
I don't know what the motiviation behind #1 going to see the show in the first place and #2 wasting their time writing that much negativity about something. They're obviously bitter.
I saw Panic! twice on this current tour. Both times the 1-2,000 plus crowd went apeshit. the energy was palpable and the band did a great (considering they've only been a band for 2 years) job onstage of being energetic and charismatic.
True there were no synths, cello's, violins or accordians on stage but this is an opening act. How much time do you think would need to be spent between acts just to set all that up and soundcheck it? It was good to see that the reviewer gave props to the sound engineer (was he surprised that she was female? Her name is Trish by the way.) and if all that on-stage hoopla is whaqt you really need in order to have a good time then look out for Panic!s upcoming spring tour. a little birdie told me that it's going to have all that and more and should be very "theatrical"
A few more questions. What does the overall age of the audience matter when judging a band? what was the average age of the Beatles fans when they hit the U.S.? how about U2's? I remember my entire 8th grade absolutely LOVED Joshua Tree when it came out and U2 used to have concerts on Nickelodeon what is there age demographic?
Bottom line this reviewer is an elitist (this is what they put as an occupation in their profile: "listening NOW to what you'll be listening to in two years...your cool bores me. i was there.") so take whatever they say with a grain of salt. if it's popular (which Panic! apparently are. They won't like it. It must be lonely to be so much better than everyone.
your good.
fluke182
02/19/06, 06:53 PM
First off, funnay review. Very comical. Second off, if I saw them and they didn't perform their music with the synth ON STAGE, I would be pissed too. That was my one problem listening to them, it sounds like a band that got someone to make them unique by mixing them well and adding synth sounds, and it sounds like I was exactly right. What makes them different from the Backstreet Boys, not performing their own music entirely? That's really just a small step away from what they do (Especially with it sounding like their drummer isn't so hot, no wonder why they use so much damn drum machine). I like Panic!, but they are a little...created sounding.
overoverme
02/19/06, 06:58 PM
That review was good in why it said Panic sucks live, but otherwise it was doused in negativity just so sites like this could link it.
The review also says Panic was the most original act on the bill.
Hellogoodbye gets that nod. (Unless they didn't play that show?)
Whatever.
cahrishurr
02/19/06, 07:19 PM
haha i liked that review
loserkid92
02/19/06, 07:29 PM
No they didn't get Owned.
This reviewer obviously doesn't like anything or anyone. ever.
I don't know what the motiviation behind #1 going to see the show in the first place and #2 wasting their time writing that much negativity about something. They're obviously bitter.
I saw Panic! twice on this current tour. Both times the 1-2,000 plus crowd went apeshit. the energy was palpable and the band did a great (considering they've only been a band for 2 years) job onstage of being energetic and charismatic.
True there were no synths, cello's, violins or accordians on stage but this is an opening act. How much time do you think would need to be spent between acts just to set all that up and soundcheck it? It was good to see that the reviewer gave props to the sound engineer (was he surprised that she was female? Her name is Trish by the way.) and if all that on-stage hoopla is whaqt you really need in order to have a good time then look out for Panic!s upcoming spring tour. a little birdie told me that it's going to have all that and more and should be very "theatrical"
A few more questions. What does the overall age of the audience matter when judging a band? what was the average age of the Beatles fans when they hit the U.S.? how about U2's? I remember my entire 8th grade absolutely LOVED Joshua Tree when it came out and U2 used to have concerts on Nickelodeon what is there age demographic?
Bottom line this reviewer is an elitist (this is what they put as an occupation in their profile: "listening NOW to what you'll be listening to in two years...your cool bores me. i was there.") so take whatever they say with a grain of salt. if it's popular (which Panic! apparently are. They won't like it. It must be lonely to be so much better than everyone.
thank you for that.
it's nice to see that one of the best new bands out there is getting such a positive welcome from the press :\
i saw them at the Stone Pony a week and a bit ago, and although they are easily one of my favorite bands, have to say i was a bit dissapointed with them aswell (although not to the same extent-i happen to be wearing my Panic! shirt right now). After ryan's journal entry, i expected to be able to say hello to at least one of the band members which ryan had "guarenteed to be by the merch booth after the show."...however, they all hid away in their bus. Also, they had one of the most sterile live shows i've ever seen. But still...they play good music...so WHO CARES?
ceelove
02/19/06, 07:29 PM
So fucking true. These guys were horrible live.
exactly what i was going to say.
I was there and that show was AWESOME!
watchmyheadspin
02/19/06, 07:58 PM
i was very disappointed with panic's performance on this tour. I deemed them a guilty pleasure for 2005....and now I just can't listen to them anymore. It's very disheartening to be a fan of a band...and be at the show...and feel like you're being ignored by the band. ESPECIALLY since Panic is on tour with TAI....a band....that you feel welcomed to their performance...and if any of you have ever talked to any of the members of this band, I'm sure they've thanked you profusely for attending their show. Panic has a lot to learn when it comes to their fans.
The Mallard
02/19/06, 08:09 PM
The guy didn't even like the band in the first place, or the scene for that matter. He hates everything about it and the music all the bands play...what was the purpose of this? He shows his bias immediately.
The only the I agree with is the fact that it is stupid that they don't play the synth and stuff live. They do go off time and yea...The picture at the end is amazing and true.
btbam > you
02/19/06, 08:12 PM
i love the band on cd, but theyre one of the worst live bands ever. that guy should not even attempt to sing unless hes in a studio because his real voice can seriously kill people.
I totally agree about them not being the most inviting band in the world, and they could def. learn from TAI. They hid out in their bus after the show while Hellogoodbye was out there talking to everybody. (I left after the show so I don't know if TAI came out or not, but they said they would.) Unfortunately Acceptance wasn't there because of van problems. I was really hoping to see them. Hellogoodbye really seemed like the nicest guys in the world.
ishotthepilot
02/19/06, 09:05 PM
:lolbang:
'04- early '05, kids in the know love the band.
mid '05 it gets to AP.net kids, and everyone loves the band.
then they get signed and haters start dropping off of trees.
then the record comes out and people who havent bothered listening to the album bash it anyway, and people with ears love the album.
when they finally get their lazy asses around to it, they listen to the cd and are like, "oh."
".......let's bash the way they don't have the money as an opening band to add/pay a 5th member to play the parts of the album we were amazed by but won't admit it!"
this place drives me crazy.
i hope you really got your lolz from that super-unbiased review, which would have been a total 180 of opinion if panic were an unknown band.
GAD_guy
02/19/06, 09:13 PM
:lolbang:
'04- early '05, kids in the know love the band.
mid '05 it gets to AP.net kids, and everyone loves the band.
then they get signed and haters start dropping off of trees.
then the record comes out and people who havent bothered listening to the album bash it anyway, and people with ears love the album.
when they finally get their lazy asses around to it, they listen to the cd and are like, "oh."
".......let's bash the way they don't have the money as an opening band to add/pay a 5th member to play the parts of the album we were amazed by but won't admit it!"
this place drives me crazy.
i hope you really got your lolz from that super-unbiased review, which would have been a total 180 of opinion if panic were an unknown band.
about fall out boy (and a few others) your argument is valid. not with this one. i, along with countless others, hated them from the beginning. i recall my post in the very first news thread EVER posted about them here: "tragic waste of a cool name." they were always a trendy cliche ripoff of all the bands that are making this "genre" such a joke. worse, they tried to combine the second-biggest musical trend (pop-emo/punk) with the biggest (synth-pop via the 80s). what a pathetic derivative joke. this band doesn't deserve to exist let alone have an extra member. which reminds me, how you can say they can't afford to pay a 5th member when they have already sold their souls to mtv? i guarantee they are either rolling in dough or will be when the whoring is complete and they sign to a major (probably island). please cease the tired arguments, not you directly but everyone defending this joke of a band in general.
oh yeah, and why doesn't anybody who utliizes these arguments look at the bands who everyone continued to love after obtaining success (death cab for cutie, bright eyes, blink 182, the ataris, etc.)? you see, there is a reason why people hate fall out boy, shit! at the disco, the all-american rejects, my chemical romance, etc. becuase they suck, and they always have. of course, those like taking back sunday who really did just fall off a cliff with their "breakthrough" records are an exception, but it's still sensible to hate them for it.
ForeverInADay
02/19/06, 09:43 PM
thank you for that.
it's nice to see that one of the best new bands out there is getting such a positive welcome from the press :\
i saw them at the Stone Pony a week and a bit ago, and although they are easily one of my favorite bands, have to say i was a bit dissapointed with them aswell (although not to the same extent-i happen to be wearing my Panic! shirt right now). After ryan's journal entry, i expected to be able to say hello to at least one of the band members which ryan had "guarenteed to be by the merch booth after the show."...however, they all hid away in their bus. Also, they had one of the most sterile live shows i've ever seen. But still...they play good music...so WHO CARES?
see, this is why no one likes P!ATD.
"They're one of my favourite bands." You just heard about them no more then 4 months ago. That's like saying "Hey, it's nice to meet you for the very first time and having no prior knowledge of your existance, but seriously, I love you BFFZ!!!."
David Wooley
02/19/06, 10:06 PM
mad hate on panic. Ill decide for myself when i see them in march.
atticusfinch
02/19/06, 10:08 PM
This reviewer seems more concerned with getting drunk with people of his own age than actually giving a solid review of a show. I'm with Rohan. Panic was pretty good on this tour. And they sucked horribly last fall when I saw them, so keep that in mind if you haven't seen them yet.
weworemasks
02/19/06, 11:16 PM
Milli Vanilli
they dont lipsync, dipshit.
if panic! played their keys live, they would be 20x the live band.
but despite their lack of keys, the dudes put on a solid show when i saw them on the take cover tour...which was their first tour apparently.
im seeing them this friday, i hope it ends up being a good show.
youareallfreaks
02/19/06, 11:18 PM
mad hate on panic. Ill decide for myself when i see them in march.
sweet sig
earlynovemberX
02/19/06, 11:39 PM
I'm actually a fan of the cd, but I for one am inclined to agree with this reviewer. I am a firm believer that the live show should be just as good and real as possible as the cd. When they aren't playing the synth because they aren't able to multitask that is just pathetic. I lose alot of respect for bands who can't play their music anywhere except the studio.
He's making perfect snese their dude, deal with it.
What you don't understand is that the samples they put in their live shows were meant to be electronic. its sound design man, thats the purpose. The fact that they dont play the techno-esque drum samples in reality is not even an issue, its not like they are claiming to be able to do that live....its meant to be a sample. get over it. as far as their performance, i saw them in myrtle beach last week and was very surprised at how good their set was, especially after reading all the bashing on this site. I saw them last fall when they opened for acceptance and cartel and they were good, but they have deffinetly stepped it up as far as both stage presence and performance in general. they are good live. end of story.
i just dont understand why someone would take so much time and intellectual effort to put together something so trite.
and to those elitist posers on this site..... get over yourself. you are so sweet at life you are spending all your time posting about how much bands suck on a website....
DeadPoetic
02/20/06, 01:07 AM
If Hellogoodbye support them on their UK tour, it will be well worth seeing.
IamTheINDUSTRY
02/20/06, 01:54 AM
i dont give a damn about this shit. these guys sound like Buddyhead ripoffs. FUCK YOU.
robhimself
02/20/06, 05:29 AM
this guy needs to get laid or something.
i'd love to hear his review of that
BringDaRuckus
02/20/06, 05:53 AM
i highly doubt p!atd can't afford another touring member to play synths and the other stuff they do on the album. any band that can afford to tour in a bus is making around $2,000 just off guarantee alone if not more and thats counting in merch too... bands of such lower income than p!atd have to pull off a more electronic based live set like their albums. they figure if you do it on album you owe it to fans to have it live (one band that comes to mind, portugal the man) so you're telling a me a band that signed to fueled my major records can't afford to have a live synth player is ridiculous and a slap in the face to many of those hard working bands stuck in vans.
i dont think p!atd is terrible live or terrible in general they're just doing something anyone else would be envious of. they've actually improved tremendously since the first time i saw them... but by now they should be more into replicating their sound on the album live with all the money they're pulling in.
A Drowning Man
02/20/06, 06:14 AM
I don't hate them, but didn't that page we seen the other day say they would be like 25,000 dollars?? With as much attention as they have been getting, you don't think alot of people would join as Synth Player/Sampler in a instant??
Not bashing, Just saying.
Hahaha.
Okay, so PATD aren't the best band live. They rate somewhere down there alongside with MCR and The Academy Is
Ponyboy
02/20/06, 06:48 AM
I totally agree about them not being the most inviting band in the world, and they could def. learn from TAI. They hid out in their bus after the show while Hellogoodbye was out there talking to everybody. (I left after the show so I don't know if TAI came out or not, but they said they would.) Unfortunately Acceptance wasn't there because of van problems. I was really hoping to see them. Hellogoodbye really seemed like the nicest guys in the world.
its true, hgb are some of the nicest ppl i ever met. Back at bamboozle last year i talked to 3 of the members and they were nothing but great. pretty funny dudes too. when they were signing autographs they would draw pictures on there poster instead of just signin their name. i thought it was pretty shnazzy
00spool posted almost exactly my thoughts.
I'm more than sure this reviewer went to shows when he was 15. You have to start somewhere - so i wish people would just remember what it was like when they were that age. Teenage girls are getting slaughtered by critics no matter what they listen to - it's plain trite to keep repeating it in negative reviews.
For those who have seen Panic! live, you simply cannot deny the energy brought to the crowd -
Azwethinkweiz
02/20/06, 07:24 AM
It's funny, cause the music that elitlists do listen to is always good. If being elitlist is defined as not liking shitty manufactured trite crap like patd, then I will gladly take the title.
The problem with elitists is they exclude certain bands because of the people who like them. Very rarely do I see any elitists like the music that dominates this website. Therefore, I don't even know why you're here right now. But, elitists are also all the same. Once again, I rarely hear two elitists get together and disagree about music, they're both just desperately trying to be different. They fellate Sufjan Stevens and My Morning Jacket. It's amazing how much they respect individual music, without being individual themselves.
Another problem with elitists is they block out any potential for growth. If they didn't hear something from the right source then they assume that it sucks. It's kind of like a newspaper editor, where everytime there's a word that they don't know, they think, "Well, it shouldn't have been there in the first place." So they just delete it, instead of learning.
I try to be diverse in the people I talk to and hang out with. But I have no time for elitists. Making other people feel bad about something as inconsequential as music is pointless to me. It's JUST music. If you want to listen to the REALLY good stuff then it's already been made. Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms. Elitism is a dirtier word than emo to me. Not to mention, when you grow up you're going to see how big of an ass you actually were. That is, if you grow at all.
thegamethelight
02/20/06, 07:52 AM
nice post.
i agree with the review. panic at the disco, the academy is, soon to be cute is what we aim for, all these horrible fueled by ramen bands are TERRIBLE LIVE. don't get me wrong, i love production in music, ON RECORDINGS. When you play live, you are supposed to be real. None of these bands give me that vibe. There music is completely played out, and I'm glad at least a few people reliaze it. I don't claim to listen to "real" music, i listen to a lot of what of other people wouild few as "garbage" but one thing is for sure, none of the bands i previously stated have any bit of talent at all.
zizou1790
02/20/06, 08:13 AM
yeah i saw these dudes on nintendo fusion i didnt think they were as bad live as everyone makes them out to be
theOCEANFLOOR
02/20/06, 08:28 AM
No they didn't get Owned.
This reviewer obviously doesn't like anything or anyone. ever.
I don't know what the motiviation behind #1 going to see the show in the first place and #2 wasting their time writing that much negativity about something. They're obviously bitter.
I saw Panic! twice on this current tour. Both times the 1-2,000 plus crowd went apeshit. the energy was palpable and the band did a great (considering they've only been a band for 2 years) job onstage of being energetic and charismatic.
True there were no synths, cello's, violins or accordians on stage but this is an opening act. How much time do you think would need to be spent between acts just to set all that up and soundcheck it? It was good to see that the reviewer gave props to the sound engineer (was he surprised that she was female? Her name is Trish by the way.) and if all that on-stage hoopla is whaqt you really need in order to have a good time then look out for Panic!s upcoming spring tour. a little birdie told me that it's going to have all that and more and should be very "theatrical"
A few more questions. What does the overall age of the audience matter when judging a band? what was the average age of the Beatles fans when they hit the U.S.? how about U2's? I remember my entire 8th grade absolutely LOVED Joshua Tree when it came out and U2 used to have concerts on Nickelodeon what is there age demographic?
Bottom line this reviewer is an elitist (this is what they put as an occupation in their profile: "listening NOW to what you'll be listening to in two years...your cool bores me. i was there.") so take whatever they say with a grain of salt. if it's popular (which Panic! apparently are. They won't like it. It must be lonely to be so much better than everyone.
stop kidding yourself. please. to be honest they're not that impressive on CD so i honestly cant imagine them being anything more than okay live. i've heard from numerous people, even self-proclaimed 'biggest fans' that they suck live. you dont love panic at the disco. you love who produced and engineered their album.
There are far worse live bands out there.
See Fall Out Boy
The dude should have seen acceptance and reviewed them.
underdawg1119
02/20/06, 08:43 AM
All you people complaining about how they don't have synth/can't multitask live should keep in mind that they've only been a band for like 2 years and they had their first show like what? Less than a year ago? Most bands have a lot more experience before they're put out on a big tour like that. Like a lot of people here have said, the band has said that they plan on having a touring synth player once they get bigger and have the money.
As far as multitasking goes, I'd say they do a decent job. Brendon plays piano on all the songs that need it except for Time To Dance (I think it was Time To Dance), when Ryan plays it and Brendon plays guitar.
No they didn't get Owned.
This reviewer obviously doesn't like anything or anyone. ever.
I don't know what the motiviation behind #1 going to see the show in the first place and #2 wasting their time writing that much negativity about something. They're obviously bitter.
I saw Panic! twice on this current tour. Both times the 1-2,000 plus crowd went apeshit. the energy was palpable and the band did a great (considering they've only been a band for 2 years) job onstage of being energetic and charismatic.
True there were no synths, cello's, violins or accordians on stage but this is an opening act. How much time do you think would need to be spent between acts just to set all that up and soundcheck it? It was good to see that the reviewer gave props to the sound engineer (was he surprised that she was female? Her name is Trish by the way.) and if all that on-stage hoopla is whaqt you really need in order to have a good time then look out for Panic!s upcoming spring tour. a little birdie told me that it's going to have all that and more and should be very "theatrical"
A few more questions. What does the overall age of the audience matter when judging a band? what was the average age of the Beatles fans when they hit the U.S.? how about U2's? I remember my entire 8th grade absolutely LOVED Joshua Tree when it came out and U2 used to have concerts on Nickelodeon what is there age demographic?
Bottom line this reviewer is an elitist (this is what they put as an occupation in their profile: "listening NOW to what you'll be listening to in two years...your cool bores me. i was there.") so take whatever they say with a grain of salt. if it's popular (which Panic! apparently are. They won't like it. It must be lonely to be so much better than everyone.
:appl:
underdawg1119
02/20/06, 08:59 AM
See Fall Out Boy
The dude should have seen acceptance and reviewed them.
They had some kind of van trouble, so they weren't there.
They had some kind of van trouble, so they weren't there.
Man, they were sick when they came to Grand Rapids and I was so pissed off. It sounds like it has been a bad tour for them.
i'd like to see them perform the synth parts live, but it doesn't bother me to the extent that it does some other people here... and as for the piano, im 99% sure that it is for show.. watch when they sit down to play it, they're just randomly swiping at keys, not actually playing it. Regardless, i enjoy their live show, their stage presence has improved tremendously since i first saw them.
And why is TAI getting labeled as a "fake" band by some posts? They were amazing when i saw them in Toronto, best band of the night by far.
tragedyco
02/20/06, 09:21 AM
I saw Panic! twice on this current tour. Both times the 1-2,000 plus crowd went apeshit. Same with ashlee simpson... doesnt mean shes good though.
thank you for that.
it's nice to see that one of the best new bands out there is getting such a positive welcome from the press :\
i saw them at the Stone Pony a week and a bit ago, and although they are easily one of my favorite bands, have to say i was a bit dissapointed with them aswell (although not to the same extent-i happen to be wearing my Panic! shirt right now). After ryan's journal entry, i expected to be able to say hello to at least one of the band members which ryan had "guarenteed to be by the merch booth after the show."...however, they all hid away in their bus. Also, they had one of the most sterile live shows i've ever seen. But still...they play good music...so WHO CARES?
Okay whether you like the CD or the live show or whatever...everyone has their own opinion being an elitest or not .....BUT...I agree.....they need to get out there with their fans....not a stupid ...pay $15 for a CD (which most there already have) and a meetngreet. And yes I know it was people above them making that descision to do the meetngreet...but come on. Maybe if they were in a van and not a freakin' bus.....things would be different. In this "scene" kids like to meet and say hi and give the bands the stupid shirt thay made them....and not pay $15!!! And yes I am talking about 15yr old girls...but who cares.....they do count in record and show sales don't they?
i'm starting to read - not much needed to get me mad - i'm mad cause some idiots that actually don't like and don't listen the band (not only p!atd) are on shows, and probably for free! i can't go for shows like this even if i would love it and pay a lot :]
mogwaifearsatan
02/20/06, 10:07 AM
Yeah, this guys a real elitist because he's not a 16 year old girl that <33 your favorite band. It wasn't the most well written review but at least it got the point across; these guys are as flavor of the month as Ryan Cabrera.
underdawg1119
02/20/06, 10:13 AM
Man, they were sick when they came to Grand Rapids and I was so pissed off. It sounds like it has been a bad tour for them.
Yeah. I saw them with Yellowcard back in October and they were really good, so I planned on getting their CD at the show.
Someone should buy them a new van...
pinkbullets
02/20/06, 10:33 AM
Panic is NOT EMO! And that guy is a TERRIBLE writer.
In all honesty, I was considering paying the $25K that they ask for to perform live, but now not so much. :\
If you were considering paying them what they quoted you to play, then you should not be programming or booking anywhere.
rorytws
02/20/06, 01:00 PM
i didn't agree with the part about the drummer, he gets into it and only on 3 songs is there parts with prolonged electronic drums. however when i saw them i did wish they could of played those parts live, but still i thought that was a bit harsh.
I totally disagree with the people that have said TAI is not good live.. they are GREAT. William has an amazing stage personality and the band is awesome.
JOJOFACE
02/20/06, 08:35 PM
i agree with the review. panic at the disco, the academy is, soon to be cute is what we aim for, all these horrible fueled by ramen bands are TERRIBLE LIVE. don't get me wrong, i love production in music, ON RECORDINGS. When you play live, you are supposed to be real. None of these bands give me that vibe. There music is completely played out, and I'm glad at least a few people reliaze it. I don't claim to listen to "real" music, i listen to a lot of what of other people wouild few as "garbage" but one thing is for sure, none of the bands i previously stated have any bit of talent at all.
LOL. The Academy Is... is AMAZING live! I guess you just hit them up on a bad night, but when I saw them with Hidden In Plain View it was unforgetable. They were amazing. <3
Yeah, this guys a real elitist because he's not a 16 year old girl that <33 your favorite band. It wasn't the most well written review but at least it got the point across; these guys are as flavor of the month as Ryan Cabrera.
man, i don't mind that someone has different opinion, just a fact that this review is really shitty, he could make he's opinion in one sentence and it would be better, why is he even going for shows like that?
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