anti-war songs

[posingasaposer]

i dont know if this is the right forum, eventhough its sort of relative but someone can move it if you so see fit... though this IS a music board anyway...

anyone know any anti-war/protest songs? preferably punk but other genres are welcome, assuming anyone here knows of other genres...

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
i dont know if this is the right forum, eventhough its sort of relative but someone can move it if you so see fit... though this IS a music board anyway...

anyone know any anti-war/protest songs? preferably punk but other genres are welcome, assuming anyone here knows of other genres...
get a life

[Justin_stacy]

Just about every thing by anti-flag..........of course they all suck but they do write alot of anti-war stuff.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Just about every thing by anti-flag..........of course they all suck but they do write alot of anti-war stuff.
i need to write a pro war song

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
get a life

get laid... if you have the money, to buy a blow up doll...

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
get laid... if you have the money, to buy a blow up doll...
when your balls drop come back and tell me that again

[evil zach]

Anti-Flag-die for the government, no more dead
Crass-Fight war not wars, demoncrats
Bad religion-We're all gonna die for our own arrogance
Protest the hero-Silent Genocide

[kidinthecorner]

"We gotta get out of this place, if its the last thing we ever do. We gotta get out of this place, girl there's a better place, for me and you.."

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
when your balls drop come back and tell me that again

my balls? my balls? I have no balls to drop...

"get laid... if you have the money, to buy a blow up doll..."



thanks to the rest of you, im talking about the people who werent ferociously bullied their whole life and takes out his bottled up anger on screen names...

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
my balls? my balls? I have no balls to drop...

"get laid... if you have the money, to buy a blow up doll..."



thanks to the rest of you, im talking about the people who werent ferociously bullied their whole life and takes out his bottled up anger on screen names...
really mature, im just tired of this anti-war bullshit, explain to me why you are against the war

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
really mature, im just tired of this anti-war bullshit, explain to me why you are against the war

there is no reason for me to be for the war in iraq, so therefore the only alternative would be for me to be against it

now please stop spamming the thread with bullshit. the thread is for suggestions on anti-war/protest songs, not for a debate on the current war on iraq

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
really mature, im just tired of this anti-war bullshit, explain to me why you are against the war

hahaha... I'M immature? youre the one who came into my thread and started talking shit for no reason...

well, boo hoo if you're tired of this "anti-war bullshit" but im simply trying to help my friend find songs for a cd he's gonna burn, this isnt a discussion about the war its about music..

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
there is no reason for me to be for the war in iraq, so therefore the only alternative would be for me to be against it

now please stop spamming the thread with bullshit. the thread is for suggestions on anti-war/protest songs, not for a debate on the current war on iraq

Just ignore him hes looking for an arguement, and not to get off the subject but to take a side on an issue normally means you have reason for it, not just that its an alternative, also there are many more reasons to be for this war then against it. Just food for thought, DONT quote me Brandnew, and dont make any more stupid comments.


And to Posingasaposer why dont you join us in some of the other threads?

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
there is no reason for me to be for the war in iraq, so therefore the only alternative would be for me to be against it

now please stop spamming the thread with bullshit. the thread is for suggestions on anti-war/protest songs, not for a debate on the current war on iraq
its about anti war songs. you are right, but anti war is stupid. just because you arent for, doesnt mean you have to be against. and there are plenty of reasons to be for it. saddam has had 12 years to disarm and hasnt. saddam has murdured millions of his own people and kurds and turks, not to mention the horrible condidtions that the living iraqis live through every day, the fear of dying for voicing your opinion. so stop trying to be trendy with your anti war crap and tell me why you are against it

[Justin_stacy]

suggestions try most of the last two GOOD RIDDANCE albums. I'll try to find the names of some of the songs.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
suggestions try most of the last two GOOD RIDDANCE albums. I'll try to find the names of some of the songs.
k justin, im not trying to start a fight. its just we are at war. why cant you support people fighting for freedom? this anti war nonsense is just bullshit. being anti-bush is the cool thing to do right now, but thats not why you should be against war. if you actually have a reason to be against it, by all means voice your opinion, but dont just say war is stupid.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
k justin, im not trying to start a fight. its just we are at war. why cant you support people fighting for freedom? this anti war nonsense is just bullshit. being anti-bush is the cool thing to do right now, but thats not why you should be against war. if you actually have a reason to be against it, by all means voice your opinion, but dont just say war is stupid.

Buddy i am for the war, but its every ones right to decide for themselves, also just cause you want to hear some anti war shit, doesn't mean absolutley mean your against the war, it could be you just really want to listen to some ANTI - FLAG at this moment? of course i dont know why a person would ever want to listen to anti flag.

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
its about anti war songs. you are right, but anti war is stupid. just because you arent for, doesnt mean you have to be against. and there are plenty of reasons to be for it. saddam has had 12 years to disarm and hasnt. saddam has murdured millions of his own people and kurds and turks, not to mention the horrible condidtions that the living iraqis live through every day, the fear of dying for voicing your opinion. so stop trying to be trendy with your anti war crap and tell me why you are against it

sure saddamn is a murderer but i really dont think thats a good reason to go in and kill innocent iraqis, they have it bad enough with all the sanctions and whatnot. Fact is, the US government doesnt care if he kills people, if they did they wouldnt have supplied him with weapons and let him go at the end of the gulf war, and after 10 years i dont see how he's a threat NOW all of the sudden.

Iraqis live in terrible conditions because of money and food [and god knows what else] sanctions.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Buddy i am for the war, but its every ones right to decide for themselves, also just cause you want to hear some anti war shit, doesn't mean absolutley mean your against the war, it could be you just really want to listen to some ANTI - FLAG at this moment? of course i dont know why a person would ever want to listen to anti flag.
i know you are for the war, but when you say you are against it just because you are not for it....thats just being ignorant.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
sure saddamn is a murderer but i really dont think thats a good reason to go in and kill innocent iraqis, they have it bad enough with all the sanctions and whatnot. Fact is, the US government doesnt care if he kills people, if they did they wouldnt have supplied him with weapons and let him go at the end of the gulf war, and after 10 years i dont see how he's a threat NOW all of the sudden.

Iraqis live in terrible conditions because of money and food [and god knows what else] sanctions.

Hey i can tell you what is wrong with what you said if you wnat to hear it, if not and you want to end the discusion thats cool too. Hope ya found some good songs.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
i know you are for the war, but when you say you are against it just because you are not for it....thats just being ignorant.

Its more misinformed then ignorant, but point taken.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Hey i can tell you what is wrong with what you said if you wnat to hear it, if not and you want to end the discusion thats cool too. Hope ya found some good songs.
are you talking to me, because i hope you are talking to pointdexter over there who thinks we are killing innocent iraqis

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Its more misinformed then ignorant, but point taken.
ill give you that. i blame mtv for that

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
are you talking to me, because i hope you are talking to pointdexter over there who thinks we are killing innocent iraqis

the body count is what 60-70 now... and heres a hint, they're not soldiers...

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
are you talking to me, because i hope you are talking to pointdexter over there who thinks we are killing innocent iraqis

no i was talking to her, thats why i quoted her.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
the body count is what 60-70 now... and heres a hint, they're not soldiers...
justin....help me out here. i want to yell and scream at this dumbass, but you are the more diplomatic of the two of us, explain to the genius where she is wrong

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
justin....help me out here. i want to yell and scream at this dumbass, but you are the more diplomatic of the two of us, explain to the genius where he is wrong

when i told you that i dont have any balls, what the hell did you think i meant?

and if what i said was so dumb then how come you cant rebut but just ask for help from someone else?

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
justin....help me out here. i want to yell and scream at this dumbass, but you are the more diplomatic of the two of us, explain to the genius where he is wrong

Shes not online any more so it wouldn't matter, and just because SHE doesn't agree with ya doesn't make her a dumbass, your only a dumbass when you know the truth about something and then ignore it, she obviously doesn't havethe facts so i wouldn't call her a dumbass for her views.

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
its about anti war songs. you are right, but anti war is stupid. just because you arent for, doesnt mean you have to be against. and there are plenty of reasons to be for it. saddam has had 12 years to disarm and hasnt. saddam has murdured millions of his own people and kurds and turks, not to mention the horrible condidtions that the living iraqis live through every day, the fear of dying for voicing your opinion. so stop trying to be trendy with your anti war crap and tell me why you are against it

if thats what you want, then fine, but dont expect me to help you any further in turning this into a debate over the war in iraq

i am against the war because i dont see any kind of justification for the war. if we were going in there to free the iraqi people, then where have we been for the last 12 years? also, the U.N. charter states that no nation shall declare war on another nation, unless it is attacked or the U.N. gives them permission. neither has happened in this case. there has been no attack by iraq, no threat from iraq, and no connection to september 11th. war should come as an absolute last defense, when all other alternatives have been exhausted. what we are doing in iraq now, is an act of aggression, not to mention a possible war crime, not an act of self-defense. almost every other nation has denounced our attacks on iraq, and we are only making our country even less safe by alienating it from the international community. Bush says we need to invade iraq because Hussein is abusing his own people and pursuing weapons of mass destruction, yet at the same time, he supports the nuclear-armed dictator of Pakistan. this double standard makes one wonder : what is this war really about? also, i will go ahead and state that i am not anti-american or pro-iraq, and i fully support our troops, which is why i think we need to bring them back home before even more of them die in an unjustified war for oil.

i say that Bush needs to make jobs, not wars.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
when i told you that i dont have any balls, what the hell did you think i meant?

and if what i said was so dumb then how come you cant rebut but just ask for help from someone else?
because you dont seem to understand me. saddam is an evil man. he is doing what hitler did to the jews, but not to jews. do you think we should have left hitler in power?

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
if we were going in there to free the iraqi people, then where have we been for the last 12 years?
We (the US) had our dick in some interns mouth, until Bush stepped in. Clinton knew there were problems, but chose to do nothing, appeasement. he did this to not stir up a commotion, and then get reelected. Clinton was a genius, not a humanitarian

[posingasaposer]

Bush is no better than saddam...

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=389923

and if you're gonna deny that because its an arab site then i hope your mom slaps the hell out of you because Al-Jazeera is more respectable as a reliable source of news than CNN...

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
Bush is no better than saddam...

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=389923

and if you're gonna deny that because its an arab site then i hope your mom slaps the hell out of you because Al-Jazeera is more respectable as a reliable source of news than CNN...

I highly dissagree with that AL-Jazeera is very bias on arab issues but ill read it and then type something, but only fairly you need to stay on line and read nad comment on what i type coo.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
Bush is no better than saddam...

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=389923

and if you're gonna deny that because its an arab site then i hope your mom slaps the hell out of you because Al-Jazeera is more respectable as a reliable source of news than CNN...
even if that were true, it was a mistake. plus on the scale millions seems to weigh more than 50, so chew on that

[posingasaposer]

one innocent civillian dead is one too many... what does it matter if saddam or bush kills more iraqis? They both need to be assasinated...

the sanctions placed on Iraq kills 5000 children every month...




but this REALLY got off topic, i have no reason to discuss this because i had no intention to. Skip along with your conservative right-wing self im sure they miss you at some KKK rally...

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
one innocent civillian dead is one too many... what does it matter if saddam or bush kills more iraqis? They both need to be assasinated...

the sanctions placed on Iraq kills 5000 children every month...




but this REALLY got off topic, i have no reason to discuss this because i had no intention to. Skip along with your conservative right-wing self im sure they miss you at some KKK rally...
so we are supposed to let saddam to continue to rule and kill hundreds times more than the accidental deaths we caused. that makes sense. again i ask you, would you have let hitler stay in power?

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
Bush is no better than saddam...

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=389923

and if you're gonna deny that because its an arab site then i hope your mom slaps the hell out of you because Al-Jazeera is more respectable as a reliable source of news than CNN...

heres another link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81784,00.html

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
heres another link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81784,00.html
yeah those iraqis we just freed seem to hate bush

[posingasaposer]

one last thing...

in the New England Journal of Medicine (September 24th, 1992) there was an article that stated that 64,900 children under the age of five died in iraq as a direct result of U.S. actions in the first gulf war, and that now, there are over 1.25 million children under the age of five at risk in iraq this time.

And hitler was carrying out mass ethnic cleansing, saddam only gassed the kurds when they were attacking baghda.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
one innocent civillian dead is one too many... what does it matter if saddam or bush kills more iraqis? They both need to be assasinated...

the sanctions placed on Iraq kills 5000 children every month...




but this REALLY got off topic, i have no reason to discuss this because i had no intention to. Skip along with your conservative right-wing self im sure they miss you at some KKK rally...

Insults at a persons political party hurt them in no, it just proves your ignorance, but thats cool i tried to be nice.
It must be nice having only your self to think about in the world, maybe some day you'll open your eyes to the really world infront of you.


Also just so you know, when you place something normally its a good idea to know whether its truth full or not. Because you got the info about the sanctions right, you just forget to include that they were the fault of Saddum.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
one last thing...

in the New England Journal of Medicine (September 24th, 1992) there was an article that stated that 64,900 children under the age of five died in iraq as a direct result of U.S. actions in the first gulf war, and that now, there are over 1.25 million children under the age of five at risk in iraq this time.

And hitler was carrying out mass ethnic cleansing, saddam only gassed the kurds when they were attacking baghda.
not to mention the numerous amounts of murders against those who spoke out against the government. and those sanctions killed kids during clintons reign

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
one last thing...

in the New England Journal of Medicine (September 24th, 1992) there was an article that stated that 64,900 children under the age of five died in iraq as a direct result of U.S. actions in the first gulf war, and that now, there are over 1.25 million children under the age of five at risk in iraq this time.

And hitler was carrying out mass ethnic cleansing, saddam only gassed the kurds when they were attacking baghda.

Saddum gassed the kurds "home" villages because they formed the own government which is in effect still to this day, they never attacked baghdad.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Insults at a persons political party hurt them in no, it just proves your ignorance, but thats cool i tried to be nice.
It must be nice having only your self to think about in the world, maybe some day you'll open your eyes to the really world infront of you.


Also just so you know, when you place something normally its a good idea to know whether its truth full or not. Because you got the info about the sanctions right, you just forget to include that they were the fault of Saddum.
I told you, ignorance

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Saddum gassed the kurds "home" villages because they formed the own government which is in effect still to this day, they never attacked baghdad.
good call

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
not to mention the numerous amounts of murders against those who spoke out against the government. and those sanctions killed kids during clintons reign

thats why its called a dictatorship.he destroys the people that stand against him like any other dictator does. just the same as the dictator in saudi arabia or pakistan does, but of course, the U.S. is still allies with both of them.

[evil zach]

Please stop talking, your not helping the anti-war cause at all.

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by evil zach
Please stop talking, your not helping the anti-war cause at all.

thank you for your little inane opinion.

now, could i perhaps get some actual song suggestions?

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
thats why its called a dictatorship.he destroys the people that stand against him like any other dictator does. .
so just because he bears the name "dictator" it makes it ok? that makes sense

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
Please stop talking, your not helping the anti-war cause at all.
See why anti-war people get a bad rep zach? Ignorance. You seem to have reasons supporting your thoughts, but this broad is one dumb bitch.

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
so just because he bears the name "dictator" it makes it ok? that makes sense

i never said it was okay. but if the fact that he is a dictator is justification for war, then when are we invading pakistan or saudi arabia, or the other dozens of countries with dicators in charge?

all of your reasons for this war are bullshit. its completely unjustified, as i have already shown throughout this thread. now i plan on sticking by my original intentions of not discussing this matter any further. do your own research other than watching the hugely biased fox news, then i might reconsider.

now have a nice day gentlemen/ladies/whatever.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
do your own research other than watching the hugely biased fox news, then i might reconsider.

now have a nice day gentlemen/ladies/whatever.

Ya and Al-Jazeera isn't a biased joke of a new agency run by idiots. Also just so ya know Al-Jazeera was founded by a billionaire oil dealer, sounds like a capitalist and i thought you hated capitalist.

[posingasaposer]

any more song suggestions?

[Xero]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
any more song suggestions?

i cant believe we only got 4 song suggestions out of this...at least i finally made my own name instead of using yours heh...

[posingasaposer]

Originally posted by Xero
i cant believe we only got 4 song suggestions out of this...at least i finally made my own name instead of using yours heh...

yeah, when you start arguing with these morons they just wont shut up... ive learned a valuable lesson...

and atleast you have that radio station to get songs from...

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
yeah, when you start arguing with these morons they just wont shut up... ive learned a valuable lesson...


I've learned that samething from reading your posts, so i to will nolonger enter this thread. It must be nice having know clue what your talking about. Bye.

[posingasaposer]

thank god!

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by posingasaposer
thank god!
go away! get some facts.

[xnotedgex]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
go away! get some facts.

shut up..you compare hitler to hussein...just shut the fuck up

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by xnotedgex
shut up..you compare hitler to hussein...just shut the fuck up
there are tons of similarites between adolf and saddam you fuck head

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
there are tons of similarites between adolf and saddam you fuck head

I bet I could make a better comparison between Bush and Hitler than you could with Saddam.

[yeat182]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
I bet I could make a better comparison between Bush and Hitler than you could with Saddam.


maybe so, but when it comes down to evil, there is no comparison. saddam and hitler are much more similar than bush, it isn't even a contest.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
I bet I could make a better comparison between Bush and Hitler than you could with Saddam.

Even though i you cant and that this is a joke, go ahead make an INTELLIGENT comparison.

[Xero]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Even though i you cant and that this is a joke, go ahead make an INTELLIGENT comparison.

mind if i jump in?

1) The republican party and Bush almost mirror the propaganda methods used by Hitler in old nazi Germany. The republicans are calling this fight against terrorism a war, this is propaganda. It is not a war, congress has to declare war and they have not done that. It is propaganda to call a fight against terrorism a war.

Hitler on Propaganda - From chapter 6 of Mein Kampf:

"The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain facts, processes, necessities, etc., whose significance is thus for the first time placed within their field of vision. All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our public, and too much caution cannot be extended in this direction."

More Here: http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/DocPropa.htm

2) Hitler was born in Austria, he called it "the homeland" and Bush calls America "the homeland," Bush uses the term "homeland" quite a bit and named the new security agency "The Department of Homeland Security." Frankly it makes me cringe when I hear homeland instead of American or country. I would prefer "The Department of American Security" and Bush could say "the country" instead of the homeland. My 78 year old father fought Hitler and the Nazis, he even stole a Nazi flag from Hitler's house. He hates the term "Homeland" when referring to anything American.

Bush Administration's Homeland Security Freudian Slip

If the President's newly created Office of Homeland Security sounds to you a bit reminiscent of propaganda from Nazi Germany, you're not alone in that suspicion. According to the Washington Times (one of President Bush's strongest defenders among U.S. newspapers), Texas Homeland Security chief David Dewhurst claims it was an error when an ad he commissioned in support of the Office of Homeland Security featured a Luftwaffe officer.

More Here: http://www.baltech.org/lederman/bush-homeland-security-10-30-01.html


3) Hitler created a police force to control the people, it was called the "Gestapo." Bush wants to implement the TIPS program that would be similar to the "Gestapo." He wants a million Americans to sign up to spy on other Americans. We can't process the intelligence we get now let alone process the reports from a million American spies who have no training in spying on people.

HOMELAND SECURITY...HOMEGROWN NAZIS In the late 1930's, cognizant of the treachery that had ensconced him in power, Hitler decided he needed a police force to keep a watchful eye on the citizenry. He named this group the "Geheime Staatspo lezei." The literal translation is "Home Nation Police." A near approximation would be "Office of Homeland Security." But the group is known throughout the world by its more sinister appellation: "Gestapo."...Was that a knock on the door ?

More Here: http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/HSECURITY.html


4) Hitler used the military against the citizens and Bush wants to do it too. The Bush administration has directed lawyers in the Departments of Justice and Defense to review the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 and any other laws that sharply restrict the military's ability to participate in domestic law enforcement. Military leaders oppose Bush and support the restrictions because their troops were not specifically trained in those roles, and they worried that domestic tasks could lead to serious political problems. This is really scary, the military is trained to kill people not be policemen.

More Here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/21/politics/21PENT.html


5) Bush said he would like to be a dictator because it would sure make things easier. Hitler said about the same thing, then he became a dictator. Since the sole difference between a dictatorship and a democracy is that the leaders are popularly elected by the masses of people rather than by seizing office by force, being appointed by an elite or by assuming power via a fixed election there can be no other way to describe the Bush administration than as a dictatorship.

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT:

"I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

Link: http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html


6) Bush and Ashcroft have suspended the Constitution here in America. Hitler did the same thing in 1933 when he brought the nazi party to power. We have an American citizen in jail right now who has been refused his due process and not allowed to see an attorney. He is called an Enemy Combatant to get around the Constitution even though we are not at war. In 1932 Hitler was unsuccessful in the presidential elections against Hindenburg, but Hitler still became chancellor in 1933. He then suspended their constitution and brought his Nazi Party to power. Hitler was Germany's dictator for 6 years (1939-1945).

More Here: http://www.absolutefacts.com/data/hitler.htm


7) Bush's family has ties to Nazi Germany. It all started with Prescott Bush, George W. Bush's grandfather. In 1918 it is said that he robbed the grave and stole the skull of the Native American warrior Geronimo as part of an initiation into Yale's Skull and Bones Society. The Skull and Bones Society has been important to the Bush Family. George Bush Sr. and George W. Bush were also members of this secret society. Prescott Bush got into a little bit of trouble back in the 1940s. While American soldiers were fighting the Nazis in WWII, three of Prescott Bush's companies were seized under the Trading With The Enemy Act because they were selling fuel to and laundering money for the Nazis.

More Here:
http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html

According to former U.S. Justice Dept. Nazi War Crimes Prosecutor John Loftus — who is today the director of the Florida Holocaust Museum — "The Bush family fortune came from the Third Reich," as was printed in the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. Along with the Rockefellers, DuPonts, General Motors and Henry Ford, banks and shipping companies operated by the Bush family were crucial players in setting up the industrial power behind the Third Reich. These companies poured hundreds of millions of dollars into IG Farben and provided it with technology for tactically essential synthetic materials — while withholding the same materials and patents from the U.S. government. According to the Encyclopedia Brittanica, IG Farben built and operated more than 40 concentration camps in Nazi-occupied Europe, including Auschwitz. At their slave labor/factory/death camps chemicals, weapons, drugs, synthetic fuels and other materials vital to the Nazi war effort were manufactured. That the Bush wealth and prominence in American politics is derived from Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker's support of Hitler is a historical fact. To offset their reputation as WWII traitors former President Bush joined the US Airforce after the US Congress seized his father's banking assets in 1942 under the Trading With The Enemy Act.

More Here:
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/011801/sl.slant.shtml


8) What conservatives don't yet fully realize is that the Bush family - including GW - are neither genuine Republicans nor are they genuine conservatives. What they are is genuine corporate-fascists. The minimally qualified GW Bush is a man whose entire career is based solely on his father being George Bush and all the
helping hands that connection brought into play. The four US Supreme Court justices who gave Bush the presidency were either appointed by his father, had sons working for law firms representing GW in the contested election lawsuits or had publicly stated that they had a strong personal commitment
to making sure Gore never became President. Justice Scalia said he'd resign if Gore became President. Justice O'Conner said she could not retire if Gore became President because a liberal Justice would replace her. Both Justices Rhenquist and Scalia have sons working for Bush law firms involved in the election. Justice Thomas' wife works for both the far right Heritage Foundation and the Bush transition team. These Justice's flawed and highly partisan ruling trashed the entire idea of States rights - the very same conservative ideology they have so vigorously defended-not to mention the rule of law, equal protection and the idea of judicial impartiality and restraint.

[Xero]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Even though i you cant and that this is a joke, go ahead make an INTELLIGENT comparison.

mind if i jump in?

1) The republican party and Bush almost mirror the propaganda methods used by Hitler in old nazi Germany. The republicans are calling this fight against terrorism a war, this is propaganda. It is not a war, congress has to declare war and they have not done that. It is propaganda to call a fight against terrorism a war.

Hitler on Propaganda - From chapter 6 of Mein Kampf:
"The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain facts, processes, necessities, etc., whose significance is thus for the first time placed within their field of vision. All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our public, and too much caution cannot be extended in this direction."

More Here: http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/DocPropa.htm

2) Hitler was born in Austria, he called it "the homeland" and Bush calls America "the homeland," Bush uses the term "homeland" quite a bit and named the new security agency "The Department of Homeland Security." Frankly it makes me cringe when I hear homeland instead of American or country. I would prefer "The Department of American Security" and Bush could say "the country" instead of the homeland. My 78 year old father fought Hitler and the Nazis, he even stole a Nazi flag from Hitler's house. He hates the term "Homeland" when referring to anything American.

Bush Administration's Homeland Security Freudian Slip

If the President's newly created Office of Homeland Security sounds to you a bit reminiscent of propaganda from Nazi Germany, you're not alone in that suspicion. According to the Washington Times (one of President Bush's strongest defenders among U.S. newspapers), Texas Homeland Security chief David Dewhurst claims it was an error when an ad he commissioned in support of the Office of Homeland Security featured a Luftwaffe officer.

More Here: http://www.baltech.org/lederman/bush-homeland-security-10-30-01.html


3) Hitler created a police force to control the people, it was called the "Gestapo." Bush wants to implement the TIPS program that would be similar to the "Gestapo." He wants a million Americans to sign up to spy on other Americans. We can't process the intelligence we get now let alone process the reports from a million American spies who have no training in spying on people.

HOMELAND SECURITY...HOMEGROWN NAZIS In the late 1930's, cognizant of the treachery that had ensconced him in power, Hitler decided he needed a police force to keep a watchful eye on the citizenry. He named this group the "Geheime Staatspo lezei." The literal translation is "Home Nation Police." A near approximation would be "Office of Homeland Security." But the group is known throughout the world by its more sinister appellation: "Gestapo."...Was that a knock on the door ?

More Here: http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/HSECURITY.html


4) Hitler used the military against the citizens and Bush wants to do it too. The Bush administration has directed lawyers in the Departments of Justice and Defense to review the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 and any other laws that sharply restrict the military's ability to participate in domestic law enforcement. Military leaders oppose Bush and support the restrictions because their troops were not specifically trained in those roles, and they worried that domestic tasks could lead to serious political problems. This is really scary, the military is trained to kill people not be policemen.

More Here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/21/politics/21PENT.html


5) Bush said he would like to be a dictator because it would sure make things easier. Hitler said about the same thing, then he became a dictator. Since the sole difference between a dictatorship and a democracy is that the leaders are popularly elected by the masses of people rather than by seizing office by force, being appointed by an elite or by assuming power via a fixed election there can be no other way to describe the Bush administration than as a dictatorship.

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT:
"I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

Link: http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html


6) Bush and Ashcroft have suspended the Constitution here in America. Hitler did the same thing in 1933 when he brought the nazi party to power. We have an American citizen in jail right now who has been refused his due process and not allowed to see an attorney. He is called an Enemy Combatant to get around the Constitution even though we are not at war. In 1932 Hitler was unsuccessful in the presidential elections against Hindenburg, but Hitler still became chancellor in 1933. He then suspended their constitution and brought his Nazi Party to power. Hitler was Germany's dictator for 6 years (1939-1945).

More Here: http://www.absolutefacts.com/data/hitler.htm


7) Bush's family has ties to Nazi Germany. It all started with Prescott Bush, George W. Bush's grandfather. In 1918 it is said that he robbed the grave and stole the skull of the Native American warrior Geronimo as part of an initiation into Yale's Skull and Bones Society. The Skull and Bones Society has been important to the Bush Family. George Bush Sr. and George W. Bush were also members of this secret society. Prescott Bush got into a little bit of trouble back in the 1940s. While American soldiers were fighting the Nazis in WWII, three of Prescott Bush's companies were seized under the Trading With The Enemy Act because they were selling fuel to and laundering money for the Nazis.

More Here:
http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html

According to former U.S. Justice Dept. Nazi War Crimes Prosecutor John Loftus — who is today the director of the Florida Holocaust Museum — "The Bush family fortune came from the Third Reich," as was printed in the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. Along with the Rockefellers, DuPonts, General Motors and Henry Ford, banks and shipping companies operated by the Bush family were crucial players in setting up the industrial power behind the Third Reich. These companies poured hundreds of millions of dollars into IG Farben and provided it with technology for tactically essential synthetic materials — while withholding the same materials and patents from the U.S. government. According to the Encyclopedia Brittanica, IG Farben built and operated more than 40 concentration camps in Nazi-occupied Europe, including Auschwitz. At their slave labor/factory/death camps chemicals, weapons, drugs, synthetic fuels and other materials vital to the Nazi war effort were manufactured. That the Bush wealth and prominence in American politics is derived from Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker's support of Hitler is a historical fact. To offset their reputation as WWII traitors former President Bush joined the US Airforce after the US Congress seized his father's banking assets in 1942 under the Trading With The Enemy Act.

More Here:
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/011801/sl.slant.shtml


8) What conservatives don't yet fully realize is that the Bush family - including GW - are neither genuine Republicans nor are they genuine conservatives. What they are is genuine corporate-fascists. The minimally qualified GW Bush is a man whose entire career is based solely on his father being George Bush and all the helping hands that connection brought into play. The four US Supreme Court justices who gave Bush the presidency were either appointed by his father, had sons working for law firms representing GW in the contested election lawsuits or had publicly stated that they had a strong personal commitment to making sure Gore never became President. Justice Scalia said he'd resign if Gore became President. Justice O'Conner said she could not retire if Gore became President because a liberal Justice would replace her. Both Justices Rhenquist and Scalia have sons working for Bush law firms involved in the election. Justice Thomas' wife works for both the far right Heritage Foundation and the Bush transition team. These Justice's flawed and highly partisan ruling trashed the entire idea of States rights - the very same conservative ideology they have so vigorously defended-not to mention the rule of law, equal protection and the idea of judicial impartiality and restraint.

[yeat182]

Bush isn't a dictator because he does not control the government. he is only 1/3 of the government, the founding fathers were on top of this.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by yeat182
Bush isn't a dictator because he does not control the government. he is only 1/3 of the government, the founding fathers were on top of this.
just because someone is a right winger doesnt make them fascist

[Justin_stacy]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Xero
{1) The republican party and Bush almost mirror the propaganda methods used by Hitler in old nazi Germany. The republicans are calling this fight against terrorism a war, this is propaganda. It is not a war, congress has to declare war and they have not done that. It is propaganda to call a fight against terrorism a war. }

Many wars have been fought with out congressional declaration (Vietnam), war is also a term for fighting, would "Presidental Declaration against terrorism" be more to your likeing?



{2) Hitler was born in Austria, he called it "the homeland" and Bush calls America "the homeland," Bush uses the term "homeland" quite a bit and named the new security agency "The Department of Homeland Security." Frankly it makes me cringe when I hear homeland instead of American or country. I would prefer "The Department of American Security" and Bush could say "the country" instead of the homeland. My 78 year old father fought Hitler and the Nazis, he even stole a Nazi flag from Hitler's house. He hates the term "Homeland" when referring to anything American. }

This is just stupid, i consider Kansas my home land cause thats where im from does that make me a NAZIS? My grandma considered Ireland her "homeland" does that make her a NAZIS? Jews called Israel the "homeland" does that make them Nazis? Just cause your grandfather thinks its a bad term doesn't make it so.


{3) Hitler created a police force to control the people, it was called the "Gestapo." Bush wants to implement the TIPS program that would be similar to the "Gestapo." He wants a million Americans to sign up to spy on other Americans. We can't process the intelligence we get now let alone process the reports from a million American spies who have no training in spying on people.

HOMELAND SECURITY...HOMEGROWN NAZIS In the late 1930's, cognizant of the treachery that had ensconced him in power, Hitler decided he needed a police force to keep a watchful eye on the citizenry. He named this group the "Geheime Staatspo lezei." The literal translation is "Home Nation Police." A near approximation would be "Office of Homeland Security." But the group is known throughout the world by its more sinister appellation: "Gestapo."...Was that a knock on the door ? }

Im not going to defend this at all i think what there doing is wrong and against the constitution. Although i think your going a bet to the extreme here in your comparison.................oh what a minute my door bells ringing.

{4) Hitler used the military against the citizens and Bush wants to do it too. The Bush administration has directed lawyers in the Departments of Justice and Defense to review the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 and any other laws that sharply restrict the military's ability to participate in domestic law enforcement. Military leaders oppose Bush and support the restrictions because their troops were not specifically trained in those roles, and they worried that domestic tasks could lead to serious political problems. This is really scary, the military is trained to kill people not be policemen.}

I've read about this too, and it does kind of scare me i know i dont want soliders walking down my street.


{5) Bush said he would like to be a dictator because it would sure make things easier. Hitler said about the same thing, then he became a dictator. Since the sole difference between a dictatorship and a democracy is that the leaders are popularly elected by the masses of people rather than by seizing office by force, being appointed by an elite or by assuming power via a fixed election there can be no other way to describe the Bush administration than as a dictatorship.

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT:

"I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." }

Now this was a joke, and i hope your not serious about it. And probably totally taken out of context.

Does that fact the fact that clinton cheated on his wife mean that hes going to cheat on America? Actions and Sayings don't equal intentions.


{6) Bush and Ashcroft have suspended the Constitution here in America. Hitler did the same thing in 1933 when he brought the nazi party to power. We have an American citizen in jail right now who has been refused his due process and not allowed to see an attorney. He is called an Enemy Combatant to get around the Constitution even though we are not at war. In 1932 Hitler was unsuccessful in the presidential elections against Hindenburg, but Hitler still became chancellor in 1933. He then suspended their constitution and brought his Nazi Party to power. Hitler was Germany's dictator for 6 years (1939-1945).}

FDR inprisioned AMERICAN citizens durring WWII does that make him a Nazis? Linclon suspend the constitution durring the Civil war does that make him a NAZIS?


{7) Bush's family has ties to Nazi Germany. It all started with Prescott Bush, George W. Bush's grandfather. In 1918 it is said that he robbed the grave and stole the skull of the Native American warrior Geronimo as part of an initiation into Yale's Skull and Bones Society. The Skull and Bones Society has been important to the Bush Family. George Bush Sr. and George W. Bush were also members of this secret society. Prescott Bush got into a little bit of trouble back in the 1940s. While American soldiers were fighting the Nazis in WWII, three of Prescott Bush's companies were seized under the Trading With The Enemy Act because they were selling fuel to and laundering money for the Nazis. }

JFK's dad was a Nazis supportor while he was an Ambassidor to GB before the war started. He promoted US support for the Nazis regime and promoted the entry of the USA into WWII on the side of the NAZIS. He also prohbited his son from joining any war that opposed the nazis or he would take them out of his will (of course niether of them listened to him and joined, but they both also asked to fight in the Asian theater). He personally idolized hitler (so did henry ford), and talked only greatly of this murder. He got so out of control that FDR pulled him from GB before the war started because FDR was affraid that this parssionate speak would lead americans to side with the NAZIS, so now is JFK a nazis?


{According to former U.S. Justice Dept. Nazi War Crimes Prosecutor John Loftus — who is today the director of the Florida Holocaust Museum — "The Bush family fortune came from the Third Reich," as was printed in the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. Along with the Rockefellers, DuPonts, General Motors and Henry Ford, banks and shipping companies operated by the Bush family were crucial players in setting up the industrial power behind the Third Reich. These companies poured hundreds of millions of dollars into IG Farben and provided it with technology for tactically essential synthetic materials — while withholding the same materials and patents from the U.S. government. According to the Encyclopedia Brittanica, IG Farben built and operated more than 40 concentration camps in Nazi-occupied Europe, including Auschwitz. At their slave labor/factory/death camps chemicals, weapons, drugs, synthetic fuels and other materials vital to the Nazi war effort were manufactured. That the Bush wealth and prominence in American politics is derived from Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker's support of Hitler is a historical fact. To offset their reputation as WWII traitors former President Bush joined the US Airforce after the US Congress seized his father's banking assets in 1942 under the Trading With The Enemy Act.}

WOW, im not going to disagree with that in any, but that still doesn't make him a nazis. We can not be judged by our parents actions, or great grandfathers actions. Because a kid is the son of a murder that doesn't mean that the son to will grow up to be a murder. The children of many nazis officails and soliders grew up after WWII and have no nazis relations or beliefs, should we still though call these kids Nazis?




Hey you must have spent alot of time on this and i comend ya, its nice to have a new face and i hope you stay.

also as for the last on (8) im not even going to comment on, we've had enough battles on that one and im more then tired of it.

[Justin_stacy]

Simalarities between hitler and saddum.

Both were born in small towns/villages, al-Auja and Braunau-am-Inn.

Both were mostly raised by there mothers. Hitlers father died when he was 20 and Saddums left/died (?) when he was a child.

Both ventured to larger cities in the youth, Hitler to Vienna and saddum to Baghdad.

Both finished secondary school, but poor marks keep them from seeking higher education; hitler art school, saddum military school.

Both lived inpoverty following following school.

Both were dishearted about not getting into school that they joined extreme radical parties, saddum the baath party1956, hitler the national socialist german workers party 1921.

Both were part of unsuccessful coup on the government before taking power, saddum in 1956 and hitler in 1923

Both spent time in jail, hitler in 1923, and saddum in 1966.

Both rose quickly to power in there political parties.

Both used there power to gain great wealth, which neither had as a youth.

Both gained power based on the health conditions of the former president, Hindenburg died of illness to allow hitler to step in, President Bakr resigned due to bad health allowing saddum to take power.

Both cleasened parliment following there presidency.

Both used religions that they themselves didn't believe to help gain power, Saddum Islam, Hitler christianity/catholic.

Both gassed/persecuted fellow country men. Hitler the jews, homosexuals, disabled, blacks, communist, union members, ect. Saddum the Kurds and Shittes.

Both have/had death squads.

Both attacked there neighbors to gain territory. Hitler 1938, poland, slovaki, russia, france, austria, ect. Suddam 1980, iran and kuwait.

Both used government agency's to control and manipulate the thoughts of there people.

Both placed pictures/statue of themselves around the territory.

Both made there birthdays national hoildays. April 28 saddum, April 20 hitler

Both were a little over forty when they took power.

Both had support/weapons from the French, Vichy france helped hitler, and Jacques Chirac goverment provide saddum with weapons, missles, nuclear power ect.

Both were helped by the French in war with US, Vichy France attacked american sailors in the MED. Sea, French help saddum stay in power and break UN resolutions and to disrupt american war efforts.

Niether allowed freed of the press.

Both tried to make there parties, baath and NAZIS, and the people of there country "one," every thing in life revolved around the party.

Both were dictators.

Both outlawed opposition parties.

Both used the military to stay/keep control of power.

Both played down there victorys/loses in war. Hitler never allowed knowledge of the NAZIS loss in wwII to reach the people they only knew through the BBC, and Iraqi still think they won the gulf war.

Both had military experience. Hitler wwI was wounded and gassed, was also given a leadership role for his bravery. Saddum moved up in the military ranks of the baath party to lead it.

Both waged unwarranted war on the jews. Hitler the Holocaust, Saddum lauched scuds at israel and supported terrorist bombers.

Both broke world org. resolutions. Hitler the league of nations and saddum the UN.


There are more, but see as im getting no grade on this that is all im going to write.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Simalarities between hitler and saddum.

Both were born in small towns/villages, al-Auja and Braunau-am-Inn.

Both were mostly raised by there mothers. Hitlers father died when he was 20 and Saddums left/died (?) when he was a child.

Both ventured to larger cities in the youth, Hitler to Vienna and saddum to Baghdad.

Both finished secondary school, but poor marks keep them from seeking higher education; hitler art school, saddum military school.

Both lived inpoverty following following school.

Both were dishearted about not getting into school that they joined extreme radical parties, saddum the baath party1956, hitler the national socialist german workers party 1921.

Both were part of unsuccessful coup on the government before taking power, saddum in 1956 and hitler in 1923

Both spent time in jail, hitler in 1923, and saddum in 1966.

Both rose quickly to power in there political parties.

Both used there power to gain great wealth, which neither had as a youth.

Both gained power based on the health conditions of the former president, Hindenburg died of illness to allow hitler to step in, President Bakr resigned due to bad health allowing saddum to take power.

Both cleasened parliment following there presidency.

Both used religions that they themselves didn't believe to help gain power, Saddum Islam, Hitler christianity/catholic.

Both gassed/persecuted fellow country men. Hitler the jews, homosexuals, disabled, blacks, communist, union members, ect. Saddum the Kurds and Shittes.

Both have/had death squads.

Both attacked there neighbors to gain territory. Hitler 1938, poland, slovaki, russia, france, austria, ect. Suddam 1980, iran and kuwait.

Both used government agency's to control and manipulate the thoughts of there people.

Both placed pictures/statue of themselves around the territory.

Both made there birthdays national hoildays. April 28 saddum, April 20 hitler

Both were a little over forty when they took power.

Both had support/weapons from the French, Vichy france helped hitler, and Jacques Chirac goverment provide saddum with weapons, missles, nuclear power ect.

Both were helped by the French in war with US, Vichy France attacked american sailors in the MED. Sea, French help saddum stay in power and break UN resolutions and to disrupt american war efforts.

Niether allowed freed of the press.

Both tried to make there parties, baath and NAZIS, and the people of there country "one," every thing in life revolved around the party.

Both were dictators.

Both outlawed opposition parties.

Both used the military to stay/keep control of power.

Both played down there victorys/loses in war. Hitler never allowed knowledge of the NAZIS loss in wwII to reach the people they only knew through the BBC, and Iraqi still think they won the gulf war.

Both had military experience. Hitler wwI was wounded and gassed, was also given a leadership role for his bravery. Saddum moved up in the military ranks of the baath party to lead it.

Both waged unwarranted war on the jews. Hitler the Holocaust, Saddum lauched scuds at israel and supported terrorist bombers.

Both broke world org. resolutions. Hitler the league of nations and saddum the UN.


There are more, but see as im getting no grade on this that is all im going to write.
Well done. I am a little dissappointed that you removed the John Ritter quote though

[Justin_stacy]

This dumbass made an even better one yesterday so i had to change it.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
This dumbass made an even better one yesterday so i had to change it.
I understand *sob*.

[Want Bush Dead]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
i need to write a pro war song


i got a better idea write a suicide note and kill yourself

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Want Bush Dead
i got a better idea write a suicide note and kill yourself
Im not going to waste any of my witty comments on you, but I will say you are a dumbfuck. Why would I do that?

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Im not going to waste any of my witty comments on you, but I will say you are a dumbfuck. Why would I do that?

you really should have taken his advice.

[evil zach]

ugh! stuff like that almost makes me wanna stop posting here. Honestly, telling sombody to kill themselves because thay don't agree with you? How much more immature can you get? Do you think your helping the anti-war cause my doing that? NO! Aside from the blatant hypocracy, its just ignorant.

[amishman]

ugh! stuff like that almost makes me wanna stop posting here. Honestly, telling sombody to kill themselves because thay don't agree with you? How much more immature can you get? Do you think your helping the anti-war cause my doing that? NO! Aside from the blatant hypocracy, its just ignorant.

Exactly. Almost everyone here resorts to name-calling while arguing. It does nothing but piss each other off.

"You know, I didn't believe your argument, but when you told me to 'eat shit', it just clicked. Man was I wrong." (sarcasm)

[The Nephilm]

zach, isn't it apparent that this forum has been a complete joke since day 1? God knows I tried to make this forum so we would have a place to discuss political issues but it is rampant with immature bastards. There's no way to stop them, unless Jason does what he should have done in the beginning and make someone mature a mod (me, justin, yeat, you)

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
zach, isn't it apparent that this forum has been a complete joke since day 1? God knows I tried to make this forum so we would have a place to discuss political issues but it is rampant with immature bastards. There's no way to stop them, unless Jason does what he should have done in the beginning and make someone mature a mod (me, justin, yeat, you)

Ya but none of us is in charge at Absolutepunk maybe we should start our own site.

[evil zach]

Thats actully not a bad idea. To bad I don;t know anything about computers. otherwise I would make one.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
Thats actully not a bad idea. To bad I don;t know anything about computers. otherwise I would make one.
liberalassfuck.com? sorry I had to get that out

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
liberalassfuck.com? sorry I had to get that out

Ya i'd want ot help start a site called liberalassfuck.com. idiot. I would most likly call it "Mustbe16orolderoryoucantenter." sorry to exclude you.

[WithStamin]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
zach, isn't it apparent that this forum has been a complete joke since day 1? God knows I tried to make this forum so we would have a place to discuss political issues but it is rampant with immature bastards. There's no way to stop them, unless Jason does what he should have done in the beginning and make someone mature a mod (me, justin, yeat, you) Are you saying that you've been mature? How about your "Fresno sucks my fucking balls" post that took up 30,000 pages. That was the true epitome of maturity. You rarely offer up any real facts, you just say "You're dumb, Bush is dumb, I wish you'd all die". Look at yourself before you talk about other people.

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by WithStamin
Are you saying that you've been mature? How about your "Fresno sucks my fucking balls" post that took up 30,000 pages. That was the true epitome of maturity. You rarely offer up any real facts, you just say "You're dumb, Bush is dumb, I wish you'd all die". Look at yourself before you talk about other people.

again you've said this plenty of times and go take a look at my posts

i never just say, "bush is dumb", i give a fucking reason for it.

and fresno does suck my balls and audiofag deserved that spamming.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
again you've said this plenty of times and go take a look at my posts

i never just say, "bush is dumb", i give a fucking reason for it.

and fresno does suck my balls and audiofag deserved that spamming.
so you have the entire town of fresno's mouth on your scrodum?

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
so you have the entire town of fresno's mouth on your scrodum?

that was the least funny thing I have ever read.

[Matthew]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
liberalassfuck.com? sorry I had to get that out

Actually i think that was even less funny. This guy is on a roll.

[billcom6]

i think liberalassfuck.com changed its url to punkvoter.com

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by billcom6
i think liberalassfuck.com changed its url to punkvoter.com

HAHAHAHA, ain't that the truth, FAT Mike is one of the biggest idiots around.