View Full Version : Sarah Palin Resigning As Governor
NickLopez
07/03/09, 12:56 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090703/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resigning
"Her spokesman wouldn't say why Palin decided to step down, but the announcement stirred speculation that she would focus on a bid for the 2012 Republican nomination for president."
:-/
Skadrist
07/03/09, 12:57 PM
Perhaps some major dirt was going to drop....
HashHolly
07/03/09, 12:59 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090703/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resigning
"Her spokesman wouldn't say why Palin decided to step down, but the announcement stirred speculation that she would focus on a bid for the 2012 Republican nomination for president."
:-/
Methinks its a tad too early to already set everything in motion to run for President, I actually wouldnt mind her running and getting the GOP nomination in 2012, as I dont see her with a blue chance in hell as becoming president.
Senate or House maybe? Part of me actually likes her somewhat
perceptrons
07/03/09, 01:11 PM
Senate or House maybe? Part of me actually likes her somewhat
Start using your other head to make judgments about her from now on then.
micahistheballs
07/03/09, 01:23 PM
I'm suspicious.
She's so over her head it's amazing. She has zero future on the national level and she doesn't know it.
Senate or House maybe? Part of me actually likes her somewhat
lol
WarpSpeedChewy
07/03/09, 01:29 PM
I really hope she does run for president. It would be awesome to see.
NickLopez
07/03/09, 01:32 PM
lol
"Once I decided not to run for re-election, I also felt that to embrace the conventional Lame Duck status in this particular climate would just be another dose of politics as usual, something I campaigned against and will always oppose," Palin said in a statement released by her office."
samsara
07/03/09, 01:34 PM
I hope she just disappears from the face of the earth now.
lol
"Once I decided not to run for re-election, I also felt that to embrace the conventional Lame Duck status in this particular climate would just be another dose of politics as usual, something I campaigned against and will always oppose," Palin said in a statement released by her office."
All governors who won't run for another term must resign at once!
Andrea Mitchell is reporting that Palin is out of politics for good.
X-)
Machu505
07/03/09, 02:11 PM
Maybe she was one of Mark Sanford's mistresses.
JustAnotherPoet
07/03/09, 02:26 PM
I would like to think that she's setting herself up for a GOP run in 2012 against Romney or perhaps preparing for a Senate seat. Unfortunately, I think it's more likely that she's been run out of town by the brutal, biased, unprofessionalism of the media. Whether you like her or not, there is no reason for the manner she, and particularly her family, was treated during and well after the election. It's a sad day when the once superior American media stoops to the same antics of name-calling seventh graders to produce a "story" with no significance or aim other than to bully an official from their majority elected position.
Machu505
07/03/09, 02:32 PM
Nope, she deserved it. She insulted city-folk and all the rest of Fake America.
I would like to think that she's setting herself up for a GOP run in 2012 against Romney or perhaps preparing for a Senate seat. Unfortunately, I think it's more likely that she's been run out of town by the brutal, biased, unprofessionalism of the media. Whether you like her or not, there is no reason for the manner she, and particularly her family, was treated during and well after the election. It's a sad day when the once superior American media stoops to the same antics of name-calling seventh graders to produce a "story" with no significance or aim other than to bully an official from their majority elected position.
So true.
I remember when the media was referring to her as a diva, a whackjob, and a Wasilla hillbilly.
EDIT: I'm being informed those were actually things said by McCain campaign staffers.
WarpSpeedChewy
07/03/09, 03:19 PM
I would like to think that she's setting herself up for a GOP run in 2012 against Romney or perhaps preparing for a Senate seat. Unfortunately, I think it's more likely that she's been run out of town by the brutal, biased, unprofessionalism of the media. Whether you like her or not, there is no reason for the manner she, and particularly her family, was treated during and well after the election. It's a sad day when the once superior American media stoops to the same antics of name-calling seventh graders to produce a "story" with no significance or aim other than to bully an official from their majority elected position.
All I'm hearing is wwwaahhhhh wahhhhhhh. If you can't handle the media, what makes you think she can even come close to handling the presidency. She should have though about that before she accepted the role of governor or VP canidate, or whenever she choose to speak out. People on both sides have had it far worse. I understand blaming the media helps rally the base, but at a certain point it's unbecoming.
Nope, she deserved it. She insulted city-folk and all the rest of Fake America.
Yep.
fightinirish217
07/03/09, 04:02 PM
Jeez, Sarah, as much as I think you're a good person, please don't run in 2012 and ruin it again for the Republicans. Wanna run for senate? Sure, go ahead. No presidential run though.
coryatlarge
07/03/09, 04:38 PM
i hope that she goes away and never comes back.
whataclush
07/03/09, 06:28 PM
Maybe she was one of Mark Sanford's mistresses.
o shit good post!
TopperHarley
07/03/09, 06:30 PM
I'm suspicious.
Oh my god. Your avatar is fucking amazing!
jwicklun
07/03/09, 06:33 PM
as long as she stays far away from politics, I'm happy. She could do commercials!
ArmedROBery
07/03/09, 07:27 PM
I would like to think that she's setting herself up for a GOP run in 2012 against Romney or perhaps preparing for a Senate seat. Unfortunately, I think it's more likely that she's been run out of town by the brutal, biased, unprofessionalism of the media. Whether you like her or not, there is no reason for the manner she, and particularly her family, was treated during and well after the election. It's a sad day when the once superior American media stoops to the same antics of name-calling seventh graders to produce a "story" with no significance or aim other than to bully an official from their majority elected position.
Who are you, John Ziegler? Palin invited nearly every bit of criticism she received by being woefully unprepared for a major political office, and demonstrating a complete lack of understanding about international politics. She was an insult to the vice-presidency.All the cries of sexism are bullshit - nothing more than a cheap ploy to hide the fact that she was an isolated whackjob from Alaska, utterly oblivious to anything outside her realm.
As for her family, I'll admit some of the attacks were harsh. Nonetheless, incidents like Letterman were blown way out of proportion, seeing as the "joke" wasn't baseless; it was relevant to Bristol's sexual history.
batmannj
07/03/09, 09:12 PM
While I do think the media has painted her as dumber than she really is, I still think the words "Sarah Palin" and "Presidential Candidate" have no business being in the same sentence. She didn't even look prepared at times in debates for the VP let alone the Commander In Chief. If she gets the GOP nod, President Obama is a lock for re-election.
In an "exclusive", The Brad Blog (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280) is reporting that Alaskan reporter, Shannyn Moore, is now saying that federal indictments in the "iceberg scandal" may soon break "concerning use of Wasilla Sport Complex building material for Palin's home..."
possible federal indictments against Palin, concerning an embezzlement scandal related to the building of Palin's house and the Wasilla Sports Complex built during her tenure as Mayor. Both structures, it is said, feature the "same windows, same wood, same products." Federal investigators have been looking into this for some time, and indictments could be imminent, according to the Alaska sources.
From a source connected sometimes to CNN: "Here's a quote I got from law enforcement here in Alaska yesterday afternoon regarding Palin "a criminal indictment is pending authorization."
Shannyn Moore's tweet: (http://twitter.com/shannynmoore/status/2464068710) RT @jmproffitt:Prediction: Palin corruption story is true. She got a free house in exchange for $13M contract award. she is D-O-N-E.about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
shannynmoore
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/3/749722/-Brad-Blog:-Federal-Indictments-for-Palin-in-Embezzlement-Scandal-May-Be-on-the-Way
open mind
07/04/09, 02:56 AM
i'd celebrate if this meant we got a better governor and she wasn't going to be a news story anymore. but my gut tells me she isn't doing this out of anything but an instinct for self preservation and her back up is a total dipshit that up to this point has defined the term cronyism....and she's been pretty ineffectual and increasingly unpopular in the last year anyways.
open mind
07/04/09, 02:58 AM
In an "exclusive", The Brad Blog (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280) is reporting that Alaskan reporter, Shannyn Moore, is now saying that federal indictments in the "iceberg scandal" may soon break "concerning use of Wasilla Sport Complex building material for Palin's home..."
possible federal indictments against Palin, concerning an embezzlement scandal related to the building of Palin's house and the Wasilla Sports Complex built during her tenure as Mayor. Both structures, it is said, feature the "same windows, same wood, same products." Federal investigators have been looking into this for some time, and indictments could be imminent, according to the Alaska sources.
From a source connected sometimes to CNN: "Here's a quote I got from law enforcement here in Alaska yesterday afternoon regarding Palin "a criminal indictment is pending authorization."
Shannyn Moore's tweet: (http://twitter.com/shannynmoore/status/2464068710) RT @jmproffitt:Prediction: Palin corruption story is true. She got a free house in exchange for $13M contract award. she is D-O-N-E.about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
shannynmoore
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/3/749722/-Brad-Blog:-Federal-Indictments-for-Palin-in-Embezzlement-Scandal-May-Be-on-the-Way
alaskan elected officials are just as bad, if not worse then the elected officials of the great state of illinois when it comes to corruption so i wouldn't be suprised if this was true.
The Personist
07/04/09, 03:29 PM
I would like to think that she's setting herself up for a GOP run in 2012 against Romney or perhaps preparing for a Senate seat. Unfortunately, I think it's more likely that she's been run out of town by the brutal, biased, unprofessionalism of the media. Whether you like her or not, there is no reason for the manner she, and particularly her family, was treated during and well after the election. It's a sad day when the once superior American media stoops to the same antics of name-calling seventh graders to produce a "story" with no significance or aim other than to bully an official from their majority elected position.
How can you be a woman and think anything remotely positive about Palin? She gives women a bad name, and is so incredibly sexist that it's just unbelievable that you would think she's got something to offer.
Is someone trying to save mark sanford from himself?
xshady121
07/04/09, 08:30 PM
In an "exclusive", The Brad Blog (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280) is reporting that Alaskan reporter, Shannyn Moore, is now saying that federal indictments in the "iceberg scandal" may soon break "concerning use of Wasilla Sport Complex building material for Palin's home..."
possible federal indictments against Palin, concerning an embezzlement scandal related to the building of Palin's house and the Wasilla Sports Complex built during her tenure as Mayor. Both structures, it is said, feature the "same windows, same wood, same products." Federal investigators have been looking into this for some time, and indictments could be imminent, according to the Alaska sources.
From a source connected sometimes to CNN: "Here's a quote I got from law enforcement here in Alaska yesterday afternoon regarding Palin "a criminal indictment is pending authorization."
Shannyn Moore's tweet: (http://twitter.com/shannynmoore/status/2464068710) RT @jmproffitt:Prediction: Palin corruption story is true. She got a free house in exchange for $13M contract award. she is D-O-N-E.about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
shannynmoore
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/3/749722/-Brad-Blog:-Federal-Indictments-for-Palin-in-Embezzlement-Scandal-May-Be-on-the-Way
Isn't it great when people can make up their own stories and pass them off as fact? This almost has as much credence as the Obama is a muslim story.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/4/750060/-Palins-Attorney-Threatening-Lawsuits
HashHolly
07/05/09, 05:39 AM
Hmm, seems the federal indictment rumor is false, according to the FBI, though its my understanding that it would be illegal for a federal agent to admit to admit to an ongoing federal investigation?
The FBI reiterated that claim Saturday, telling the Los Angeles Times for a story Sunday that the Federal Bureau of Investigation was not investigating Palin's activities as governor, a former mayor or in any other capacity.
"There is absolutely no truth to those rumors that we're investigating her or getting ready to indict her," Special Agent Eric Gonzalez, the bureau's Alaska spokesman, said.
Guess she is geraing up to run for president in 2012...I still dont think she's got a chance to pull it off.
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090705/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resigning
thatwasamoment
07/05/09, 05:45 AM
She'll never run for a political office again. She can't be that stupid...right?
I'm leaning towards agreeing with reports that she's been offered a high profile TV or radio show.
Chop[chop]
07/05/09, 07:17 AM
I'm leaning towards agreeing with reports that she's been offered a high profile TV or radio show.
I agree. If she is preparing to run for office in 2012 she's deluded.
thespearkid
07/05/09, 08:01 AM
I would love for Palin to run in 2012. After the election ended, I couldn't help but miss having her shenanigans to entertain me.
loveisdead
07/05/09, 08:28 AM
The idea of her being on TV or the radio makes the most sense to me.
Adeniz19
07/05/09, 11:05 AM
by quiting your own real political role (i'm sorry but i dont count mayor of wasilla as anything) by saying you were just going to half ass it the rest of the way if you didn't, is no way to start of a presidential run. especially, since she has only been a governor for about 3 years and half that time was spent running for something else and not actually doing her job. this would have to be the stupidest fucking move of all time.
The Pharmacist
07/05/09, 12:17 PM
it was a lovely 4th of july present
Praetor
07/05/09, 02:54 PM
I hope Sarah Palin runs in 2012 so the Democrats get a landslide.
x togepi x
07/05/09, 03:02 PM
i hope sarah palin doesn't run in 2012 so dumb men can't point her out as a reason women shouldn't run for office.
zion the lion
07/05/09, 03:02 PM
Am I the only one thinking she might try to be the chairman of the RNC? I mean she did say she felt their was a higher calling for her to fix the republican party and get this country back to its conservative roots or whatever.
muttley
07/05/09, 03:08 PM
Bummer. She was hot.
xshady121
07/05/09, 03:53 PM
Am I the only one thinking she might try to be the chairman of the RNC? I mean she did say she felt their was a higher calling for her to fix the republican party and get this country back to its conservative roots or whatever.
Yes, only you.
zion the lion
07/05/09, 03:56 PM
Yes, only you.
Well if she were to try to further her politcal career and maybe someday run for president, it would be in her best interest to do something like that, since she talked so much shit about Obama and his short pre-president political career. But it's better than some of the conspiracy theories I've seen, like a federal investigation or a television show. Come on.
Because if Michael Steele has proven anything, it's how serious the job of RNC chair should be taken.
xshady121
07/05/09, 06:25 PM
Well if she were to try to further her politcal career and maybe someday run for president, it would be in her best interest to do something like that, since she talked so much shit about Obama and his short pre-president political career. But it's better than some of the conspiracy theories I've seen, like a federal investigation or a television show. Come on.
No, it would only be in the interest of the Democratic Party if she became RNC head. She did nothing but fragment an already fragmented party. The goal of winning an election is to win a larger share of the undecided and moderates than your opponent. When you have as divisive of a face as her at the helm, your party will not win any elections.
Adeniz19
07/05/09, 06:59 PM
her having a television show is actually the thing that makes the most sense.
zion the lion
07/05/09, 07:12 PM
No, it would only be in the interest of the Democratic Party if she became RNC head. She did nothing but fragment an already fragmented party. The goal of winning an election is to win a larger share of the undecided and moderates than your opponent. When you have as divisive of a face as her at the helm, your party will not win any elections.
Moderates know that, but others further to the right are going to want her as their spokesperson. She brings in interest, hell, there's a whole thread about her resigning on a mostly liberal music site. Are you saying it wouldnt cross anybody's mind to have her as their publicity puppet?
zion the lion
07/05/09, 07:13 PM
her having a television show is actually the thing that makes the most sense.
Why would she leave a job where she had some form of political integrity and leadership for one where she's only an (blatant) entertainer who nobody takes seriously.
Why would she leave a job where she had some form of political integrity and leadership for one where she's only an (blatant) entertainer who nobody takes seriously.
Because not many people took her seriously to being with.
Machu505
07/05/09, 07:17 PM
If a television show is the reason, this will look even shittier in the 2012 primaries. Who quits their job as the governor of a state to be on TV?
zion the lion
07/05/09, 07:22 PM
Because not many people took her seriously to being with.
Not many moderates and liberals, but there are people on the far right who loved her, I mean when she first came out she brought a lot of excitement. And quite honestly people up here liked her before the RNC thing.
Adeniz19
07/05/09, 07:23 PM
Why would she leave a job where she had some form of political integrity and leadership for one where she's only an (blatant) entertainer who nobody takes seriously.money, lack of real responsibility where she is not accountable for the crap she says, probably being able to spend more time with her family, she has a degree in journalism, etc. it's not like she would be setting a precedent (huckabee).
Adeniz19
07/05/09, 07:24 PM
Not many moderates and liberals, but there are people on the far right who loved her, I mean when she first came out she brought a lot of excitement. And quite honestly people up here liked her before the RNC thing.more the reason for her to become a tv personality.
&IllBeTheReason
07/05/09, 07:29 PM
I honestly believe that someday this or next week the news will break and we will find out the real motive behind this whole thing. Whether it's in the states best interest or just hers, we'll have to wait and see.
zion the lion
07/05/09, 07:45 PM
money, lack of real responsibility where she is not accountable for the crap she says, probably being able to spend more time with her family, she has a degree in journalism, etc. it's not like she would be setting a precedent (huckabee).
more the reason for her to become a tv personality.
I honestly didnt consider those reasons. It seemed to me like at least finishing an actual job with a little bit more integrity than Huckabee or Limbaugh (depending on the tone of it) would sound better. I wouldnt put it past her to pull a move like that, but I would have thought she would try to redeem her image by taking another job in the political realm.
Unless she's just quitting to be with her family.
Adeniz19
07/05/09, 07:54 PM
if she wanted political integrity, she wouldn't be resigning in the middle of her first term that has some sort of real position of power. the best thing for her to of done if finish off her term and not make all those comments about how lame duck politicians don't do crap.
zion the lion
07/05/09, 07:59 PM
Thats why I thought that if she was leaving this job for another one, it would be one higher on the totem poll. But youre probably right.
BrennanHickson
07/05/09, 11:58 PM
her having a television show is actually the thing that makes the most sense.
reRTXJSyTjo
If a television show is the reason, this will look even shittier in the 2012 primaries. Who quits their job as the governor of a state to be on TV?
From the Vanity Fair article written on her a few days before she announced her resignation:
More than once in my travels in Alaska, people brought up, without prompting, the question of Palin's extravagant self-regard. Several told me, independently of one another, that they had consulted the definition of "narcissistic personality disorder" in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders-"a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy"-and thought it fit her perfectly. When Trig was born, Palin wrote an e-mail letter to friends and relatives, describing the belated news of her pregnancy and detailing Trig's condition; she wrote the e-mail not in her own name but in God's, and signed it "Trig's Creator, Your Heavenly Father."
peder458
07/06/09, 10:12 AM
Quote:
More than once in my travels in Alaska, people brought up, without prompting, the question of Palin's extravagant self-regard. Several told me, independently of one another, that they had consulted the definition of "narcissistic personality disorder" in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders-"a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy"-and thought it fit her perfectly. When Trig was born, Palin wrote an e-mail letter to friends and relatives, describing the belated news of her pregnancy and detailing Trig's condition; she wrote the e-mail not in her own name but in God's, and signed it "Trig's Creator, Your Heavenly Father."
is it weird that this scares me?
briewer
07/06/09, 10:17 AM
Has anyone read the text from her speech (http://www.gov.state.ak.us/exec-column.php)? It made my English hurt.
Jefferson Rank
07/06/09, 10:22 AM
the day John McCain tapped me to be his running mate...
That sounds so awkward...
fightoffyrdmns
07/06/09, 12:32 PM
If I have learned one thing: life is about choices!
Too bad this can't apply to your stance on social issues.
Animalhill
07/06/09, 12:44 PM
This is great news. She scares the shit out of me. Could you imagine this wicked little bitch wielding any power?
ShShShark
07/06/09, 02:50 PM
I don't see any logical reason to make this kind of move. You would think she would at least TRY to finish a full-term in office.
Quitter.
Sheesh.
hamballs11
07/06/09, 05:27 PM
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a speedo model
07/07/09, 05:12 AM
Perhaps some major dirt was going to drop....
Like how much her haircut cost, or something else equally relevent.
nfggc10
07/07/09, 04:11 PM
That’s what’s wrong – many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and “milk it”. I’m not putting Alaska through that.Um, what was it that you did last Fall? Hmm....
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 04:13 PM
Of all the dipshit moves possibly imaginable, this one is the worst and her most cowardly act imaginable. I used to think she was worthless and now she has proven that she is not only simply worthless but also to be a cowardly piece of shit who shows nothing but selfishness towards her newly found political stature. People campaigned for her to serve the entire term, people risked a lot because they had faith in her--regardless if it was misguided, fueled by dementia, and utterly naive--they had faith in her and she abandoned them because she couldn't handle jokes, ethics complaints, and media criticism. You are the fucking Governor, what the fuck did you expect? You wanted to make yourself a national figure whilst you, and everyone around you, knew you had zero rationale and zero experience to be there. When you do stupid things and do things for political points--you are going to become a lightning rod of criticism. When you say stupid things on television when you are running for one of the highest offices in the land, when you should have a handle on the issues gripping this nation--you should expect criticism if you say something that makes utterly no sense and sounds utterly uninformed. Suck it the fuck up.
Sarah Palin, you are a coward. Good riddance.
/rant
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/07/poll-palin-decision-doesnt-change-minds/
:hitself:
Machu505
07/07/09, 04:18 PM
What the fuck?
fightinirish217
07/07/09, 04:27 PM
As a Republican and Conservative, and someone who likes Palin and agrees with her msot of the time, I feel like she needs to stop talking and just go away. And I really hope she doesn't run in 2012. She's doing more harm than good, just stop Sarah.
7 out of 10 Republicans would still vote for her? We need to find some other, better candidates, quickly.
What the fuck?
Love the avatar...just now falling in love with that album.
As a Republican and Conservative, and someone who likes Palin and agrees with her msot of the time, I feel like she needs to stop talking and just go away. And I really hope she doesn't run in 2012. She's doing more harm than good, just stop Sarah.
7 out of 10 Republicans would still vote for her? We need to find some other, better candidates, quickly.
I need you to elaborate on what you "agree with her most of the time" about. What has she ever posited that can even be agreed with? She's never made a statement with any substance. Also, what is it you "like" about her? Aside from her (transparent) folksy charm, what on earth do you find redeeming about her? In addition, why on earth are you still a Republican? I can see the conservative part, even if I disagree with it. But your party has been hijacked by bible-thumping ignoramuses. What on earth would compel you to identify with such?
Brand-new-123
07/07/09, 04:47 PM
As a Republican and Conservative, and someone who likes Palin and agrees with her msot of the time, I feel like she needs to stop talking and just go away. And I really hope she doesn't run in 2012. She's doing more harm than good, just stop Sarah.
7 out of 10 Republicans would still vote for her? We need to find some other, better candidates, quickly.
see my avatar
Praetor
07/07/09, 04:48 PM
If the Republican party had a brain, they'd become more socially liberal. Palin is not the way to get there.
see my avatar
If the Republican party had a brain, they'd become more socially liberal. Palin is not the way to get there.
No. Libertarianism is an anarchistic pipe-dream. It's too utopian to ever even be possible. Get real.
Praetor
07/07/09, 04:51 PM
I edited my post to clarify what I meant.
Also Ron Paul is one of my favorite politicians. I might disagree with him fiscally but at least he stands for something.
Machu505
07/07/09, 04:51 PM
Love the avatar...just now falling in love with that album.
I'm unable to choose between it and Mandala now.
If the Republican party had a brain, they'd become more socially liberal. Palin is not the way to get there.
And then the Constitution Party would just take over, and we don't want that.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 04:52 PM
If the Republican party had a brain, they'd become more socially liberal. Palin is not the way to get there.
This could be the title of the Democrats-Ann Coulter-character's book.
see my avatar
I see a joke.
Praetor
07/07/09, 04:52 PM
I don't actually know that much about the American Constutition Party. Time to hit up Wikipedia.
Praetor
07/07/09, 04:54 PM
The Constitution Party is a nationalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_%28United_States %29#cite_note-0) United States political party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_political_party) rooted in the paleoconservative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservative) movement. It was founded as the U.S. Taxpayers' Party in 1992. The party's official name was changed to the Constitution Party in 1999; however, some state affiliate parties are known under different names. The party's goal as stated in its own words is "to restore our government to its Constitutional limits and our law to its Biblical foundations." The party puts a large focus on immigration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration), calling for stricter penalties towards illegal immigrants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigrants) and a moratorium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moratorium_%28law%29) on legal immigration until all federal subsidies to immigrants are discontinued.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_%28United_States %29#cite_note-1) The party absorbed the American Independent Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Independent_Party), originally founded for George Wallace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace)'s 1968 presidential campaign. The American Independent Party of California was an affiliate of the Constitution Party since its founding, but disaffiliated itself after the 2008 Constitution Party Convention to support Alan Keyes and his America's Independent Party. The Constitution Party's affiliate in California now bears the name of California Constitution Party.
Stopped reading there.
I edited my post to clarify what I meant.
Also Ron Paul is one of my favorite politicians. I might disagree with him fiscally but at least he stands for something.
Agreed. I'm all for social libertarianism (Bill Maher style). And Ron Paul at least has some original ideas. I'll give him that.
I'm unable to choose between it and Mandala now.
And then the Constitution Party would just take over, and we don't want that.
I'm in the same boat. Mandala is outstanding.
Constitution Party is frightening. Why don't they just call themselves the Gun-Toterz 4 Jeezus?
Machu505
07/07/09, 04:55 PM
Stopped reading there.
See what I mean? A Republican Party ruled by Olympia Snowes and Linc Chaffees would only make conservatives flock to third parties and the GOP would lose its base.
Brand-new-123
07/07/09, 04:55 PM
This could be the title of the Democrats-Ann Coulter-character's book.
I see a joke.
Sorry i couldn't understand your lisping sen. frank.
jwicklun
07/07/09, 04:56 PM
I like what Ron Paul stands for, but realistically, no. Really 7/10 Republicans think that Sarah Palin should run? Man that party really is fucked.
Praetor
07/07/09, 04:57 PM
Sorry i couldn't understand your lisping sen. frank.
hahaha this was actually pretty funny
Machu505
07/07/09, 04:59 PM
I'm in the same boat. Mandala is outstanding.
Constitution Party is frightening. Why don't they just call themselves the Gun-Toterz 4 Jeezus?
I decided it was my so-far AOTY after one listen haha.
And Alan Keyes just needs to man up and off himself already. He contributes nothing to American politics.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:00 PM
Sorry i couldn't understand your lisping sen. frank.
Even at Frank's most unintelligible, he will be considerably more intelligent than Representative Ron Paul, the most idiotic person to represent any district in the United States. Yes, even more unintelligent than Representative Bachmann.
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:00 PM
See what I mean? A Republican Party ruled by Olympia Snowes and Linc Chaffees would only make conservatives flock to third parties and the GOP would lose its base.
Eh, I think Republicans (and Democrats) are really too lazy to get a third party involved. Look at the state of the Democratic party...a majority of people in America would be willing to pay higher taxes for a public healthcare option and they can't even figure out if they can pass it? Aren't they supposed to be the liberal party? And Republicans, now Republicans are just as bad. No matter how discontented people get with the Republican party, the only voices of discontent will be the voices trying to change it from the inside; not the voices flocking elsewhere. It's Lincoln's party, they're not going to give it up. Not even for the Constitution Party.
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:01 PM
Even at Frank's most unintelligible, he will be considerably more intelligent than Representative Ron Paul, the most idiotic person to represent any district in the United States. Yes, even more unintelligent than Representative Bachmann.
I'm sorry Sean, but this is just too far.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:03 PM
:shrug:
Brand-new-123
07/07/09, 05:03 PM
Even at Frank's most unintelligible, he will be considerably more intelligent than Representative Ron Paul, the most idiotic person to represent any district in the United States. Yes, even more unintelligent than Representative Bachmann.
so the fact that you disagree with him makes him unintelligent? Someone who is trying to bring change to an established party rather than having no effect in a third party sure sounds dumb to me too.
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:03 PM
There is no one more idiotic and unintelligent than Representative Bachmann. Not even kidding: I have been seriously considering going to college in Minnesota just so I can work on her opposition campaign in 2010.
jwicklun
07/07/09, 05:06 PM
Even at Frank's most unintelligible, he will be considerably more intelligent than Representative Ron Paul, the most idiotic person to represent any district in the United States. Yes, even more unintelligent than Representative Bachmann.
more than Bachman? Really? Wasn't she going to propose a bill that would prevent Obama from making the re-education centers? I mean Ron Paul's ideals maybe unrealistic, but they aren't as wack-job as Bachman.
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:06 PM
Eh, I think Republicans (and Democrats) are really too lazy to get a third party involved. Look at the state of the Democratic party...a majority of people in America would be willing to pay higher taxes for a public healthcare option and they can't even figure out if they can pass it? Aren't they supposed to be the liberal party? And Republicans, now Republicans are just as bad. No matter how discontented people get with the Republican party, the only voices of discontent will be the voices trying to change it from the inside; not the voices flocking elsewhere. It's Lincoln's party, they're not going to give it up. Not even for the Constitution Party.
Even unregistered Democrats like myself (too young to vote) go third party when my party fails to reflect my ideals. Fuck, I supported the Mountain Party candidate last year over Manchin for that reason.
:shrug:
I'd take a libertarian over a conservative anyday.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:09 PM
so the fact that you disagree with him makes him unintelligent? Someone who is trying to bring change to an established party rather than having no effect in a third party sure sounds dumb to me too.
Believing that the gold standard would ever be successful now is not just something I disagree, it's fucking stupid. And I can go on. Libertarianism is a dishonest platform to run on because it is to say you support freedom but in the same breath, support a system that creates class inequality, is simply illogical and unintelligent. Yes, the man is unintelligent, incredibly.
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:10 PM
Even unregistered Democrats like myself (too young to vote) go third party when my party fails to reflect my ideals. Fuck, I supported the Mountain Party candidate last year over Manchin for that reason.
I'd take a libertarian over a conservative anyday.
I guess that I just don't see many people following your lead.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:11 PM
At least everybody knows Bachmann is stupid, so she isn't a threat. People place stock into Ron Paul's words, so it means his stupidity has clout. That frightens me and makes him worse than Bachmann. Even Glenn Beck thinks Bachmann is batshit.
jwicklun
07/07/09, 05:12 PM
At least everybody knows Bachmann is stupid, so she isn't a threat. People place stock into Ron Paul's words, so it means his stupidity has clout. That frightens me and makes him worse than Bachmann. Even Glenn Beck thinks Bachmann is batshit.
well she did something right to get voted into congress. now thats scary.
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:13 PM
I guess that I just don't see many people following your lead.
Then I guess there's only one viable path...
Nuke 'em.
jwicklun
07/07/09, 05:15 PM
well, with Palin out of the way, the remaining presidential hopefuls for the republicans are Jindal and Romney. Thoughts? Or anyone else?
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:16 PM
well, with Palin out of the way, the remaining presidential hopefuls for the republicans are Jindal and Romney. Thoughts? Or anyone else?
Haley Barbour has been mentioned, but I don't really see it.
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:16 PM
Jindal shot his chances a while back methinks, and if the recession worsens then Romney is a very viable candidate.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:16 PM
Pawlenty and Barbour.
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:18 PM
Haley Barbour has been mentioned, but I don't really see it.
During this failed bid for Senator a controversy arose at a campaigning stump. According to The New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times), in the presence of the press an aide was complaining to Barbour that "coons" were going to be at a campaign stop at the state fair. Barbour warned the aide, in front of reporters, that if the aide persisted in racist remarks, he would be "reincarnated as a watermelon and placed at the mercy of blacks."I doubt very much that he will fare well against a biracial president, haha
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:18 PM
And I can see Pawlenty.
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:18 PM
Barbour's gonna die on the healthcare issue. He's big and Mississippi has the highest obesity rate and the highest Jesus H. Christ this place is a fucking shithole rate.
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:20 PM
Barbour's gonna die on the healthcare issue. He's big and Mississippi has the highest obesity rate and the highest Jesus H. Christ this place is a fucking shithole rate.
:rotfl:
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:21 PM
Dark horse: Huntsman
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:22 PM
Dark horse: Huntsman
My personal favorite. If he was up against some douchebag Democrat I'd vote for him.
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:23 PM
Dark horse: Huntsman
Would be interesting to see him run against Obama seeing as how Obama tapped him for the role of the Chinese ambassador. Or am I thinking of someone else?
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:26 PM
That's correct.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:27 PM
Would be interesting to see him run against Obama seeing as how Obama tapped him for the role of the Chinese ambassador. Or am I thinking of someone else?
Yeah, but it's a unique way for a Governor to garner foreign policy experience.
Another dark horse: Lindsay Graham
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:28 PM
Lindsey Graham is not running for President.
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:28 PM
Dunno. Seems to me Graham is the opposite of the way the GOP needs to go to gain support.
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:30 PM
Also, like I said previously, if Jindal were the GOP's candidate, Obama would win West Virginia, Kentucky, and possibly Tennessee.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:31 PM
I see him as personally ambitious and relatively flawless, in the eyes of conservatives. He is unblemished, unlike other candidates.
Praetor
07/07/09, 05:31 PM
Also, like I said previously, if Jindal were the GOP's candidate, Obama would win West Virginia, Kentucky, and possibly Tennessee.
Why's that? Race?
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:31 PM
Oh, I forgot Thune. Another dark horse.
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:40 PM
Why's that? Race?
Absolutely.
Here in West Virginia, I can assure you one-hundred percent that the southern parts of West Virginia didn't go for McCain because they agreed with him, but because Obama was black. Our state has the highest percentage of registered Democrats in the entire United States yet we go for Republicans in national elections, and the only places that went for Obama were two counties in the coal fields, two counties in the central area, Morgantown, and the D.C. suburbs. All those in Mingo County and Logan County agree with Obama on economic issues, that is for sure, and though they may disagree with him on social issues, they would have went for him had he been white.
With that being said, by 2012, they'll all be used to having a black president. What they won't like, however, is some "foreigner" like Jindal as President.
My personal favorite. If he was up against some douchebag Democrat I'd vote for him.
As a liberal in Utah...I like him. He's a straight shooter.
fightinirish217
07/07/09, 05:51 PM
see my avatar
Eh lol I don't know, Ron Paul seems pretty crazy to me. Don't know about him.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:52 PM
Speaking of Utah, 2016, I foresee an Udall run. It's preemptive, but I'm calling it.
Machu505
07/07/09, 05:53 PM
Is there a Udall in Utah?
And I don't need any Udalls ruining my Warner vs. Newsom primary.
raukura
07/07/09, 05:53 PM
she a milf tho
Speaking of Utah, 2016, I foresee an Udall run. It's preemptive, but I'm calling it.
Is there a Udall in Utah?
And I don't need any Udalls ruining my Warner vs. Newsom primary.
Haven't heard of Udall. I think Romney's son is making some waves here.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 05:57 PM
Colorado, my bad. And Newsom needs to win his gubernatorial primary.
Machu505
07/07/09, 06:01 PM
Colorado, my bad. And Newsom needs to win his gubernatorial primary.
My prediction was made with the assumption that everything between now and then that could go right would go right.
Brand-new-123
07/07/09, 06:07 PM
Eh lol I don't know, Ron Paul seems pretty crazy to me. Don't know about him.
Really not crazy at all. Here is how he stands on the issues: link (http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/)
You just don't hear anything about him because he's not your typical neocon republican.
saysmydoctor
07/07/09, 06:14 PM
http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/education/
HE IS NOT INSANE, SWEAR.
Manicapathy
07/07/09, 06:17 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090703/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resigning
"Her spokesman wouldn't say why Palin decided to step down, but the announcement stirred speculation that she would focus on a bid for the 2012 Republican nomination for president."
:-/
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pdjudd/oh_shit.jpg
raukura
07/07/09, 06:31 PM
GILF
did her daughter have a kid? LOL
PaRaMoReROX
07/11/09, 11:16 AM
-mWqr8pb2MY
Z-train
07/18/09, 07:04 AM
PAlin should be devoured by Polar Bears after being raped by John Mccain
suicidalkitten
07/21/09, 06:16 PM
I freakin love Sarah Palin and I'm tired of the media shit talking about her. She's got alot of balls to do what she does and I think she's just doing things in the best intrest of the country. I hope she runs for president in 2012 because then I will FINALLY get to vote. And no, I'm not taking my parents views or anything because I'm young or whatever you may think.
xshady121
07/21/09, 06:22 PM
PAlin should be devoured by Polar Bears after being raped by John Mccain
reported.
xshady121
07/21/09, 06:25 PM
Absolutely.
Here in West Virginia, I can assure you one-hundred percent that the southern parts of West Virginia didn't go for McCain because they agreed with him, but because Obama was black. Our state has the highest percentage of registered Democrats in the entire United States yet we go for Republicans in national elections, and the only places that went for Obama were two counties in the coal fields, two counties in the central area, Morgantown, and the D.C. suburbs. All those in Mingo County and Logan County agree with Obama on economic issues, that is for sure, and though they may disagree with him on social issues, they would have went for him had he been white.
With that being said, by 2012, they'll all be used to having a black president. What they won't like, however, is some "foreigner" like Jindal as President.
Oh come on, you know that is ridiculous. Jindal will do great on the national scale, as long as it isn't anything like his abysmal rebuttal to the state of the union earlier this year. He's young and engaging, and a "fresh face" to national politics. A big departure from the stereotypical old white guy in a suit that the republican party has posterized.
xshady121
07/21/09, 06:28 PM
-mWqr8pb2MY
A comment from that youtube video.
if i were president i would pull the troops out of iraq. i would limit the amount of kids prior to that person's income. i would bomb the fuck at of North Korea. I would legalize pot under a certain limit.
Apparently todays young liberals don't know the definition of civil liberties and foreign policy. But it's still so trendy to be a liberal.
jwicklun
07/21/09, 06:30 PM
I freakin love Sarah Palin and I'm tired of the media shit talking about her. She's got alot of balls to do what she does and I think she's just doing things in the best intrest of the country. I hope she runs for president in 2012 because then I will FINALLY get to vote. And no, I'm not taking my parents views or anything because I'm young or whatever you may think.
Ok, but what is her opinion on the economic meltdown? War on Iraq/ Afganistan? Healthcare? She has yet to show her perspective on these topics, and she really cries out is that the media is against her. If she wants respect at least map out how to solve these problems.
jwicklun
07/21/09, 06:36 PM
A comment from that youtube video.
Apparently todays young liberals don't know the definition of civil liberties and foreign policy. But it's still so trendy to be a liberal.
yeah because one liberal speaks for every single one out there
Machu505
07/24/09, 11:00 PM
Oh come on, you know that is ridiculous. Jindal will do great on the national scale, as long as it isn't anything like his abysmal rebuttal to the state of the union earlier this year. He's young and engaging, and a "fresh face" to national politics. A big departure from the stereotypical old white guy in a suit that the republican party has posterized.
Have you ever been to West Virginia or Kentucky?
I just have one question:
Sarah Palin: Stupid woman.... OR THE STUPIDEST woman?
What a pathetic embarrassment to women. Rambling idiot moron who can't read, speak or have enough common sense to not have her teenager living with her teenage boyfriend. DUH.
Oh and because I'm on a pissy Sarah Palin rant: Why is it ok to exploit your kids when it serves you (ie My son is Down Syndrome!! My Son is going into the army!!) but not when it doesn't serve you (ie Damn media leave my precious daughter alone! After all, I'm the one who set up the perfect circumstance for her condition!)
Machu505
07/29/09, 10:43 PM
If she does come on The Daily Show as Bill Kristol said he'd try and make happen, I hope Jon Stewart doesn't soft-ball her like all the other guests he has on that he would otherwise be insulting had they not been in the room.
If she does come on The Daily Show as Bill Kristol said he'd try and make happen, I hope Jon Stewart doesn't soft-ball her like all the other guests he has on that he would otherwise be insulting had they not been in the room.
This. He even seemed to go a little easy on Jim Cramer for my tastes. For as pissed as he gets by himself, he's a little timid in the face of the idiots he pwns all day long.
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