What Do You Think?

[Jason Tate]

Hawthorne Heights (http://www.absolutepunk.net/hawthorneheights)' new album hits stores tomorrow - will it debut at #1 on the charts?

[whitetiehanging]

whatever happens, happens.

[Rohan Kohli]

whatever happens, happens.

Bold prediction.

[boldt_action]

hopefully not.

[boldt_action]

Bold prediction.
he really went out on a limb there.

[xdrummerxdudex]

it's going to be between hawthorne, jack johnson and kanye west




ok so maybe not kanye but i think hawthorne will sell well. i'll buy the cd anyways.

[Josh818]

There is no online support for this album with digital downloads. If it doesn't debut as #1, and that could be a factor, then somone has their foot in their mouth.

[whitetiehanging]

just trying to be neutral, like sweeden. because "Niki FM" is a guilty pleasure of mine.

[yutsmcgee]

nope, it won't.

[AHMYBRAIN]

Even if it debuts at #1, my official prediction is that it will still suck.

[etwiels]

#1? Doubt it.

[jfb392]

Maybe the SA reissue will sell a lot, since it's worth buying.

[xllirikx]

NO, SAY ANYTHING WILLL
















I wish

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Even if it debuts at #1, my official prediction is that it will still suck.

Would you people hop off the "Everybody hate Hawthorne Heights, because I'm cooler then you Banwagon."

I'm not a fan, no. I won't buy there cd, no.

But if this debuts at number one obviously overall this album doesn't suck. People somewhere really like them.

[AHMYBRAIN]

NO, SAY ANYTHING WILLL
















I wish

Let's pray.

Also, I live hella close to Allentown.

[AnotherTale...]

with all the comercials i see for it i hope it doesn't. It gets annoying seeing one after another.

[xllirikx]

just trying to be neutral, like sweeden. because "Niki FM" is a guilty pleasure of mine.


i do like that song a lot - but its the only good thing they have ever written.

[AHMYBRAIN]

Would you people hop off the "Everybody hate Hawthorne Heights, because I'm cooler then you Banwagon."

I'm not a fan, no. I won't buy there cd, no.

But if this debuts at number one obviously overall this album doesn't suck. People somewhere really like them.

So the fact that I downright don't like this band makes me on some bandwagon? Way to assume!

[Signals Corrupted]

i predict number 10 or 11, with about 60k copies sold. i believe their sales will slightly conflict with those of bayside.. both neyo and kid rock will debut higher

[xllirikx]

Let's pray.

Also, I live hella close to Allentown.


Then I should see you at the Thursday concert at the Croc Rock.

[xllirikx]

i predict number 10 or 11, with about 60k copies sold. i believe their sales will slightly conflict with those of bayside.. both neyo and kid rock will debut higher


I don't think the same people who are buying Bayside are buying HH. Its like gold versus garbage.

[AHMYBRAIN]

My last Croc Rock experience (Saves the Day) was not so great, since they oversold it like hell and the bouncers were shitheads, but, yeah, you probably will. Isn't Screaming is for Babies also visiting there?

[Signals Corrupted]

I don't think the same people who are buying Bayside are buying HH. Its like gold versus garbage.

LOL whatever you say man

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

probably in the top 5...is there an icon for throwing up?

[relientj428]

Would you people hop off the "Everybody hate Hawthorne Heights, because I'm cooler then you Banwagon."

I'm not a fan, no. I won't buy there cd, no.

But if this debuts at number one obviously overall this album doesn't suck. People somewhere really like them.

i agree. people sometimes make such a scene on these boards about how much they don't like the bands that are not cool to like.

i mean, i'm in the same boat as everyone else that doesn't like them, but a lot of people do, so i hope they enjoy the new cd.

however, i don't think they've quite got enough fanbase yet to debut at #1, but as was said earlier, there's not a lot of competition this week, so we'll see.

[fedhed7]

probably in the top 5...is there an icon for throwing up?
:puke:

[kallok]

The only good CDs out tomorrow are the Bayside acoustic and The Honorary Title reissue.

[Josh818]

This album will easily sell over 20k

[xllirikx]

My last Croc Rock experience (Saves the Day) was not so great, since they oversold it like hell and the bouncers were shitheads, but, yeah, you probably will. Isn't Screaming is for Babies also visiting there?


That was a terrible experience for me as well.

Say Anything cancelled, I was crushed. Emanuel was terrible (i usually like them, but I think they were drunk).

Nobody there knew STD. A few people were singing along, but some kids in the back started chanting "Get these guys of stage."

I was really upset people would rather listen to Senses Fail instead of STD. Senses Fail writes good music, but nothing like STD.

[Tony Pascarella]

I just checked out the building sales chart...with about 34% reporting, the band isn't in the top 50 (6k+ sold). So #1 looks like a long shot (hence my post deletion).

[shtjames]

hi my nameth cathey and it would be awethome if you guyth like didnt hurt animalth and thstuff im in hawthorne heightthh and i thupport peta!!!!

[zizou1790]

i havent seen much of a push for this album... but i think itll still take number one sadly

[Signals Corrupted]

hi my nameth cathey and it would be awethome if you guyth like didnt hurt animalth and thstuff im in hawthorne heightthh and i thupport peta!!!!

ahahahahahha

[zizou1790]

The only good CDs out tomorrow are the Bayside acoustic and The Honorary Title reissue.


say anything?

[last light]

top 5 not sure about 1, but top 5 for sure

[TheRunAround]

i HATED the old CD
my foot is in my mouth bc i always said how bad the follow up would be


but this CD is just plain better, if you hated them before give em another shot

[last light]

I don't think the same people who are buying Bayside are buying HH. Its like gold versus garbage.

bayside are terrible.

[The Light]

The little faith I have left in the music listening public will be lost if this debuts at #1.

[Rohan Kohli]

I just checked out the building sales chart...with about 34% reporting, the band isn't in the top 50 (6k+ sold). So #1 looks like a long shot (hence my post deletion).

The CD isn't even stores yet...

[Manbotisdead]

Hawthorne Heights (http://www.absolutepunk.net/hawthorneheights)' new album hits stores tomorrow - will it debut at #1 on the charts?

I would assume so.

[bowlingforfun]

hi my nameth cathey and it would be awethome if you guyth like didnt hurt animalth and thstuff im in hawthorne heightthh and i thupport peta!!!!

yeah ive heard hh ripped on for alot of things, but ripping on someone for supporting peta is about the lamest thing ive ever seen attempted. but clearly you knew that the raw material in your jab wasn't quality enough so you implemented a half-assed typed lisp by putting 'th' in every other word (clever..terribly clever). but now you've just made fun of someone that supports the ethical treatment of animals and apparently you have a problem with lisps. and in your next post, if you're not kicking puppies, or flicking newborns in their softspots, i will be thoroughly dissappointed with your efforts. quit touching kids. you suck.

[dontfront]

they better not.... but whatever. its a cruel world.

[ForeverInADay]

hopefully not.
seriously, especially after that lame bulletin that was posted through victory/HH on myspace.

[70x7]

Would you people hop off the "Everybody hate Hawthorne Heights, because I'm cooler then you Banwagon."

I'm not a fan, no. I won't buy there cd, no.

But if this debuts at number one obviously overall this album doesn't suck. People somewhere really like them.
The funniest part about it is all the kids ripping them for being posers are bigger posers themselves.

[C.R.U.X]

i hope it does

[rellish91]

just trying to be neutral, like sweeden. because "Niki FM" is a guilty pleasure of mine.
its switzerland thats neutral.

[fedhed7]

yeah ive heard hh ripped on for alot of things, but ripping on someone for supporting peta is about the lamest thing ive ever seen attempted. but clearly you knew that the raw material in your jab wasn't quality enough so you implemented a half-assed typed lisp by putting 'th' in every other word (clever..terribly clever). but now you've just made fun of someone that supports the ethical treatment of animals and apparently you have a problem with lisps. and in your next post, if you're not kicking puppies, or flicking newborns in their softspots, i will be thoroughly dissappointed with your efforts. quit touching kids. you suck.
Oh, lighten up.

[isaaccore]

This must be the only board in the whole world where people are actually arguing over whether this band is good or not. Sorry, but they're just plain awful, and thats a fact. Even if they sell more records than Superman all it means is that lots and lots of people have been brainwashed into a type of music that's the 2006 equivalent of butt-rock from the 80s. Compare the outfits, its the same thing. Now we just have to wait for the 2006 equivalent of Nirvana to come and make all of this a bad memory. Sorry Brummel, enjoy putting these records out until it gets REALLY embarrasing.

[Vil de Locke]

#9, 75,000 copies sold. I've just got this prediction from inside the water closet.

[TommyGunn]

I just checked out the building sales chart...with about 34% reporting, the band isn't in the top 50 (6k+ sold). So #1 looks like a long shot (hence my post deletion).

Perhaps because it is not out yet?

[ProjectMayhem33]

yeh, kids love shitty music, theyll eat up anything MTV sells them

[yutsmcgee]

just trying to be neutral, like sweeden. because "Niki FM" is a guilty pleasure of mine.

While you are take a neutral stance on this album reaching #1, I will remain pessimistic - much like my attitude towards your spelling abilities.

P.S. I've been told by an extremely reliable source that this album shipped 1 million. That's not saying that it will be #1, but there sure will be plenty of CD's out there.

[Brownpants06]

where can i stab myself in the ears

[TommyGunn]

I do not think it will do what Tony is predicting. But I could be wrong. Ne-Yo will probably do better.

[RandomHero1230]

Probably, but I hope not...

[Signals Corrupted]

i hope it does

i hope it does too.

some of you people are idiots - even if you dont like these guys, a huge fanbase for them, means an increased fanbase for a lot of the bands you DO like.

[deja andyroo]

Hawthorne Heights (http://www.absolutepunk.net/hawthorneheights)' new album hits stores tomorrow - will it debut at #1 on the charts?

I seriously, seriously doubt it. I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been more hype for this album. With how well the last album did, I expected the Victory Marketing Machine to be in full effect. I would expect a top ten spot, but top five is pushing it.

I'm hoping that the Say Anything reissue finds a spot in the Top 100, but I'm not holding my breath. Other than a couple of half/quarter-page ads in music magazines, there hasn't been much in the way of promotion.

[AHMYBRAIN]

*thumbs up*

I downloaded it earlier this week but I have every intention of buying it because it's still an amazing album almost ten years later.

Also, who is surprised that Victory has been shoving the new HH down our throats for about a month, but the new SM is coming out and it's gotten no push whatsoever?

Because I'm not surprised at all.

[Rohan Kohli]

where can i stab myself in the ears

;)

[walshknilb281]

I seriously, seriously doubt it. I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been more hype for this album. With how well the last album did, I expected the Victory Marketing Machine to be in full effect. I would expect a top ten spot, but top five is pushing it.

I'm hoping that the Say Anything reissue finds a spot in the Top 100, but I'm not holding my breath. Other than a couple of half/quarter-page ads in music magazines, there hasn't been much in the way of promotion.


you must not have Fuse or MTV2
i swear I've seen it on the 2 channels at the same time about 3 times a day. I'm guessing 125K and a top 5 spot

[bowlingforfun]

While you are take a neutral stance on this album reaching #1, I will remain pessimistic - much like my attitude towards your spelling abilities.

P.S. I've been told by an extremely reliable source that this album shipped 1 million. That's not saying that it will be #1, but there sure will be plenty of CD's out there.

ditto

[nivek87]

i really doubt it

not a huge fan, but they do have a couple tracks i like.

-silver bullet
-nikki fm
-light sleeper
-we are so last year

[bowlingforfun]

Oh, lighten up.

pretty light, right here. i just thought it was the poorest attempt at being funny/wanting attention for hating a band that ive seen. it needed called out so whatever.

[topsecret]

I just checked out the building sales chart...with about 34% reporting, the band isn't in the top 50 (6k+ sold). So #1 looks like a long shot (hence my post deletion).

I would say selling 6k before the release date is pretty good. The #1 slot will be a race between Ne-Yo and Hawthorne Heights. It's amazing how a rapper w/ 1 song and no real touring history is going to probably sell 200k, but that's what a major label does for you. Hawthorne Heights will probably sell close to 150k, which is insane for being on an indie. If Hawthorne Heights does debut at #1, it will speak great volumes for the power that indie labels can have. Although Victory has spent tons & tons promoting the shit out of this album.

[Brownpants06]

;)

I wish i saw this earlier so it could have been one of the first replies, again.

[bowlingforfun]

I would say selling 6k before the release date is pretty good. The #1 slot will be a race between Ne-Yo and Hawthorne Heights. It's amazing how a rapper w/ 1 song and no real touring history is going to probably sell 200k, but that's what a major label does for you. Hawthorne Heights will probably sell close to 150k, which is insane for being on an indie. If Hawthorne Heights does debut at #1, it will speak great volumes for the power that indie labels can have. Although Victory has spent tons & tons promoting the shit out of this album.

yeah, regardless of whether or not you like the band...all in all it's a positive thing. but then there are the people that hate victory records and tony brummel as much as they hate hawthorne heights, in which case...tomorrow is not your day.

[JoshIsArealBoy]

If they write songs with such meaningful lyrics as, I'm out side of your window with my radio, most definately. Those words were really comforting to me at my darkest times, hahaha screw hawthorne heights, I hope they burn!

[-Aaron-]

Prolly come in at 1 or 2.

[TommyGunn]

yeah, regardless of whether or not you like the band...all in all it's a positive thing. but then there are the people that hate victory records and tony brummel as much as they hate hawthorne heights, in which case...tomorrow is not your day.

I repeat, the record is not OUT yet. There is no 6K in this equation, that was misinformation.

[topsecret]

I repeat, the record is not OUT yet. There is no 6K in this equation, that was misinformation.

There are a lot of record stores that sell product before the release date. The information could be completely valid.

[bowlingforfun]

I repeat, the record is not OUT yet. There is no 6K in this equation, that was misinformation.

i was only referring to his comments on how much power indie labels have right now...im very aware of when the album comes out.

[ACA]

Will this sell more copies than Yellowcard's debut?

-ACA

[NationalProduct]

I say #4

[bowlingforfun]

Will this sell more copies than Yellowcard's debut?

-ACA

ocean ave? very possible.

[Kram41]

I've never actually listened to a single song from this band, but I've heard bad things from people. Regardless, I still hope the album does well because the more bands the start to get big from this overarching genre of "punk" (e.g. Fall Out Boy, Panic!, Yellowcard, HH), the more of a chance that other bands have to make it big too.

[xtbs7645x]

if it does its not because of talent, no offense to them but ive heard the cd..nothing new, nothing special.

[shtjames]

yeah ive heard hh ripped on for alot of things, but ripping on someone for supporting peta is about the lamest thing ive ever seen attempted. but clearly you knew that the raw material in your jab wasn't quality enough so you implemented a half-assed typed lisp by putting 'th' in every other word (clever..terribly clever). but now you've just made fun of someone that supports the ethical treatment of animals and apparently you have a problem with lisps. and in your next post, if you're not kicking puppies, or flicking newborns in their softspots, i will be thoroughly dissappointed with your efforts. quit touching kids. you suck.

hahahha
get over yourself buddy!

[Ruggiero2oo8]

i would say it will sell well..maybe not #1, but i think close.

[xMarchofflames6]

dont give them that much credit #1 is a huge over statement

[bowlingforfun]

hahahha
get over yourself buddy!

get over myself? ok jamesth ill tryth to. keep being sthweet.

[weworemasks]

hi my nameth cathey and it would be awethome if you guyth like didnt hurt animalth and thstuff im in hawthorne heightthh and i thupport peta!!!!

best post ever hahahaha

[Jason Tate]

The myspace bulletin that I SWEAR TO YOU says, "battle cry" in it to buy the new HH album tomorrow really made me laugh my ass off.

[grimis16]

no because it leaked 4 months ago and everybodys sick of it already

[DeathCabForCoon]

hahahha
get over yourself buddy!

You both need to lighten up

[ides of march]

TeEnAgE MtV GuRrL FaNbAsE UnItE
OMGZZZ

[muzik4lyf5000]

are they still on victory with no major label backing and if so how many albums have debuted 1# off an indie?

[weezer283]

number 1 baby

[fever]

hell no, it wont. i read the billboard article where tony said they would move 200,000 copies this week...nahh.

[Troy will Fall]

well HH isn't going against Jay-Z or Kayne; Ne-Yo shouldn't be to hard to beat.

[Elijscott]

It will only debut at #1 if we support ROCK. Come on people....

[luke1236]

No way that this will deput at number 1. their true fan base is younger kids which have no idea that they have a new album comin out.