Which is a better rivalry, UNC-Duke or Yankees-Red Sox?

[fire on my lips]

I think they're close, but because of the amount of fans involved in Yankees-Red Sox it is more intense.

[sweethypocrisy]

osu-michigan.

[G-Unit]

osu/mich shuold be in the poll. but as a yankee/duke fan, the more entertaining game to watch is duke/unc but sox/yankees is better rivalry

[fire on my lips]

I live in New York. There's a sport called college football? Nooooooooooooooo.

The Yankees, Red Sox, Duke and UNC all have fans all around the entire country and play to sell out crowds at every road game; as do OSU and Michigan football, but the fans are in the seats for the home team.

[Brownpants06]

Leafs - Sens

[pinkjinx87]

Duke and UNC hate each other. Battle of the Blues.

[fire on my lips]

The poll doesn't say best rivalry, just better of the two. they are the two most disscussed rivalries on these boards . . .

[fire on my lips]

Duke and UNC hate each other. Battle of the Blues.
I've spent a decent amount of time in North Carolina, and there aren't a large number of Duke fans, atleast where I've been. Thats what hurts it in my opinion.

[preppyak]

It's weird, I dislike baseball, love college b-ball, but this is a hard decision. I think by virtue of it being a pro game, the lead up to any Yankee vs Red Sox game is more interesting, at least trash talk wise...but I think UNC Duke is more interesting watch in the end.

[pinkjinx87]

I've spent a decent amount of time in North Carolina, and there aren't a large number of Duke fans, atleast where I've been. Thats what hurts it in my opinion.Yeah, I don't like Duke at all. But I can appreciate their skill and consistency in winning. And Redick is the man.

[Rebs]

I don't really like baseball, and I don't buy into pro sports as much. I absolutely adore college sports, the amount of desire, pride, etc. makes it completely different game. I went for Duke/UNC

[pinkjinx87]

Fans are more into college basketball. You can see it at the games. It's more exciting.

[G-Unit]

Fans are more into college basketball. You can see it at the games. It's more exciting.

student sections

[preppyak]

I don't really like baseball, and I don't buy into pro sports as much. I absolutely adore college sports, the amount of desire, pride, etc. makes it completely different game. I went for Duke/UNC
Here's what I found interesting...the one thing that makes the Red Sox vs Yanks Rivalry interesting to me is the bidding war on players, and money spent, in part for the World Series, but also mainly to beat each other. Like, Damon becoming a Yank, the teams competing for Free Agents, it makes the off-season very interesting, and the games compelling, even though I don't watch baseball ever really.

But, nothing beats a final shot UNC vs Duke game, they always come off as the most intense games

[pinkjinx87]

student sectionsDefinitely. The Duke student section goes crazy. They make so much noise. I love the drama of these two teams.

[fire on my lips]

Basketball always has something going on, with baseball when there's a run, there's a huge outburst of excitement.
Carolina - Duke is consistantly good, while Yankees - Red Sox is good now, because both teams are stacked now.

[aminorthreat55]

Yankees-Sox, easily.

[fire on my lips]

Yankees-Sox, easily.
like the user title :)

[mikeford]

anyone who puts duke/unc is just lying to themselves.

people have been written out of wills over red sox/yankees.

[fire on my lips]

anyone who puts duke/unc is just lying to themselves.

people have been written out of wills over red sox/yankees.

I'm sure people have over UNC/Duke and OSU/Michigan.

[Jesse2]

anyone who puts duke/unc is just lying to themselves.

people have been written out of wills over red sox/yankees.

exactly.

red sox/yankees all day long.

[smokedsanity]

anyone who puts duke/unc is just lying to themselves.

people have been written out of wills over red sox/yankees.


You must not understand how seriously people take college rivalries.

[LeftWideOpen]

anyone who puts duke/unc is just lying to themselves.

people have been written out of wills over red sox/yankees.

not to mention there's been death and destruction as a result of this rivalry. unc and duke is cute and all, but the sox yankees are on a whole other level.

[preppyak]

anyone who puts duke/unc is just lying to themselves.

people have been written out of wills over red sox/yankees.
I know the same is true for the OSU Michigan rivalry.

I just really don't like baseball, so that's probably the better part of my decision

[fire on my lips]

Most fans dont take the Carolina - Duke rivalry beyond the game, some do, but most don't. Yanks- Sox totally different story

[Scott Weber]

Yankees/Red Sox. Just look at the history...curse of the Bambino, everything. College Rivalries are cool, but they can't compete with like 100 years of hatred for the other franchise.

[fire on my lips]

Yankees/Red Sox. Just look at the history...curse of the Bambino, everything. College Rivalries are cool, but they can't compete with like 100 years of hatred for the other franchise.
I half expected to see you post Zaga - Washington. lol

[smokedsanity]

Wow, you guys truly underestimate college rivalries. Being a sports fan, I fully acknowledge the severity of Yanks vs. Sox, but you guys sell college short.

[Scott Weber]

I half expected to see you post Zaga - Washington. lol
Except it's not really a rivalry...we just started playing them every year in college basketball like 2 years ago. Washington's only real rival is Washington State.

[Scott Weber]

Wow, you guys truly underestimate college rivalries. Being a sports fan, I fully acknowledge the severity of Yanks vs. Sox, but you guys sell college short.
It's not selling it short, I know how intense college rivalries can get, but nothing compares to the history/tradition/hatred of Sox/Yankees, period.

[fire on my lips]

It's not selling it short, I know how intense college rivalries can get, but nothing compares to the history/tradition/hatred of Sox/Yankees, period.
I'm playing devil's advocate, but there's just as much hatred between colleges and for some a longer history. Tradition is arguable.

[Scott Weber]

I'm playing devil's advocate, but there's just as much hatred between colleges and for some a longer history. Tradition is arguable.
are you seriously going to argue that college rivalries are longer standing than Red Sox/Yankees? Duke/UNC haven't even been playing each other as long as NY/Boston.

[hockey0001]

sox-yankees, easily

[mikeford]

for the record, theres no such thing as the curse of the bambino, and there never was.

[NameTaken69]

i am biast towards college basketball so UNC Duke

[weezer182]

no question the yankees/red sox

[somethingyellow]

yankees-red sox

[Jesse2]

You must not understand how seriously people take college rivalries.

here's the reason it's a no-brainer for me...

almost 2 years ago i was at a yankees game and a grown man threw a beer cup half full of chewing tobacco spit at a teenage girl wearing a red sox hat. the cup hit her in the face and the spit covered her face and shirt.

ps the yankees weren't even playing the red sox that day.

[kshtoinks12]

how can u say a college team? u don't have legends, like babe ruth and cy young, mickey mantle, roger maris, they only play for like, 3 years, u need a lot of time to keep track of their entire history. when i hear rivalry, i think NY vs. Boston

[fedhed7]

I don't even understand why this is a poll. As a Yankees fan, I've been instilled with the knowledge that the Red Sox are disgusting, sniveling, roaches.

And as Scott said, the hatred stems back through about 3 generations. Nobody can argue with that.

[smokedsanity]

I'm sorry, I have to disagree. Spend the fall in the deep south...Auburn/Alabama, Auburn/UGA, UF/F. St., Miami/F. St., Alabama/LSU....I'm not even including the Big 12 in this. I am not at all saying that the Yanks/Sox rivalry doesn't rank. There is clearly a big time rivalry there, but to say that it is the biggest without question is going too far. In my experience...my Mom's aunt has not spoken to her since I was 3 or 4 after my Mom made a comment about Auburn beating Alabama. She refuses to speak to my Mom. They are not the only ones and I've read plenty reports of violence between Auburn and Alabama fans. Since I am an Auburn fan, I can reference that rivalry much better than I can many others. Auburn and Georgia began play in 1892 and have played 108 times since, which by college football standards is quite hefty (seventh all-time, which hell...that's not even the most, but there aren't multiple game series in college football to add to games played). I really think that there are a select number of major rivalries in sports and how you rank them comes down to your preference in sport and background. I don't want to turn this into some silly argument, but to say that the Yankees/Red Sox is the biggest/deepest rivalry is a bit much in my opinion. Sorry if you disagree.

[Talib Scottie]

I do not know how bad the Yanks-Sox thing is because I've never been to either Boston or New York but I have seen the UNC Duke rivalry first hand.

[fedhed7]

Go to a Yanks-Sox ALCS game at Yankee Stadium.......... You will understand.

[smokedsanity]

how can u say a college team? u don't have legends, like babe ruth and cy young, mickey mantle, roger maris, they only play for like, 3 years, u need a lot of time to keep track of their entire history. when i hear rivalry, i think NY vs. Boston


College football has no legends? Do you even pay attention to college football? Sorry to continue referencing Auburn/Alabama but have you heard of Paul "Bear" Bryant? The former Alabama coach who led them to 6 National Championships. ESPN made a movie about his days at Texas A&M. I can go further into how he played into the rivalry and how he constantly added fuel to the rivalry by making tasteless comments about Auburn and how people have held onto the words exchanged between the schools at that time.

And Bo Jackson? Former Heisman winning Auburn running back who played both football and baseball professionally and whom many sports analysts consider to be the greatest athlete of all time but many didn't get to see it due to an unfortunate hip injury while he was with the Raiders.

[Jesse2]

I'm sorry, I have to disagree. Spend the fall in the deep south...Auburn/Alabama, Auburn/UGA, UF/F. St., Miami/F. St., Alabama/LSU....I'm not even including the Big 12 in this. I am not at all saying that the Yanks/Sox rivalry doesn't rank. There is clearly a big time rivalry there, but to say that it is the biggest without question is going too far. In my experience...my Mom's aunt has not spoken to her since I was 3 or 4 after my Mom made a comment about Auburn beating Alabama. She refuses to speak to my Mom. They are not the only ones and I've read plenty reports of violence between Auburn and Alabama fans. Since I am an Auburn fan, I can reference that rivalry much better than I can many others. Auburn and Georgia began play in 1892 and have played 108 times since, which by college football standards is quite hefty (seventh all-time, which hell...that's not even the most, but there aren't multiple game series in college football to add to games played). I really think that there are a select number of major rivalries in sports and how you rank them comes down to your preference in sport and background. I don't want to turn this into some silly argument, but to say that the Yankees/Red Sox is the biggest/deepest rivalry is a bit much in my opinion. Sorry if you disagree.

I think the point people here are making for the yanks/red sox is that it's not only HUUUUGE in mass. and ny but also has a great deal of national interest.

no question college football is ginormous in the south, but sox/yanks is big everywhere.

[smokedsanity]

I think the point people here are making for the yanks/red sox is that it's not only HUUUUGE in mass. and ny but also has a great deal of national interest.

no question college football is ginormous in the south, but sox/yanks is big everywhere.


Yes, yanks/sox is more widespread, but much of the discussion has been hatred and bitterness and blah blah blah. I'm not even saying college football is better, I'm only saying that this isn't a landslide by any means. Also, college football is big many places. I didn't even mention the Big 10 or PAC 10 since I wanted to focus on the south.

[Jesse2]

Yes, yanks/sox is more widespread, but much of the discussion has been hatred and bitterness and blah blah blah. I'm not even saying college football is better, I'm only saying that this isn't a landslide by any means. Also, college football is big many places. I didn't even mention the Big 10 or PAC 10 since I wanted to focus on the south.

right on, i hear what you're saying.

[smokedsanity]

right on, i hear what you're saying.

Yeah, I'm not at all trying to take a swipe at the Yanks/Sox, I understand what is going on there. I just think that some people are not really paying attention to college football. If I'm coming off as a dick in this, I don't mean it. I just get very passionate about college football. I grew up in the deep south, I can't help that it is in my blood.

[Jesse2]

Yeah, I'm not at all trying to take a swipe at the Yanks/Sox, I understand what is going on there. I just think that some people are not really paying attention to college football. If I'm coming off as a dick in this, I don't mean it. I just get very passionate about college football.

if the thread topic had been "which sport has the most (or best) rivalries?" i wouldn't even suggest baseball.

however, given these two choices i say the yanks/red sox is a no-brainer. i know i'm partial but i just feel like that is the biggest rivalry (on a national level) in sports.

[smokedsanity]

if the thread topic had been "which sport has the most (or best) rivalries?" i wouldn't even suggest baseball.

however, given these two choices i say the yanks/red sox is a no-brainer. i know i'm partial but i just feel like that is the biggest rivalry on a (national level) in sports.

HAHA yeah, My bad. I realize that it started with those two choices but someone threw in OSU/Mich and I jumped in with my piece.

[Jason Tate]

Real Madrid vs Barcalona - best rivalry in any sport, in the world.

That said, BasketBall is so much more fun to watch then Baseball, so I go with Duke/UNC.

[somethingyellow]

Real Madrid vs Barcalona - best rivalry in any sport, in the world.

That said, BasketBall is so much more fun to watch then Baseball, so I go with Duke/UNC.i like how you think, man u- liverpool is another good one

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Yankees - Red Sox is good now, because both teams are stacked now.
are you on crack? Have you not seen old footage of Fisk and Munson going at it? Did you now Munson went out of his way to drop 3rd strike calls just so he could throw the runner out and get an assist....see, Fisk was ahead of him by 3 assists. This rivalry has been around for ages. Go to a Red Sox/Yankees game and feel the tension.

however, in basketball, nothing compares to Duke/NC. and in Football OSU/Michigan and any of the games that one dude said are big.

Man U and Liverpool is also good. I have cousins in England who hate Liverpool so much they throw darts at magazine pictures of their players.

Hockey rivalries are good too. They hit a lot harder.

[weezer182]

Real Madrid vs Barcalona - best rivalry in any sport, in the world.

That said, BasketBall is so much more fun to watch then Baseball, so I go with Duke/UNC.soccer rivalries are always the best. the atmosphere is so much more intense then sports here

[TJ Wells]

how bout bears/packers? imo that is one of the best rivalries around.

[mikeford]

flyers/devils.

always fights in the parking lots after a flyers devils game.

[BlackSheepBoy]

Albertson College/Lewis Clark State Baseball

[Caleb Cattivera]

cards cubs.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Sox/Yankees is definitely the biggest rivalry...

[Spicoli hey bud]

With Duke/UNC, other teams have taken away from this rivalry at times. It is still easily one of the best rivalries in sports, but the Yanks/Sox bad blood has never died and continues to grow. That also has a lot to do with the nature of college basketball though. Duke/UNC is one of the few rivalries that has pretty much been there year in and year out. However, at times, teams like NC state, wake, and maryland have taken away from this.

YANKS/SOX is definitely a more consistantly intense rivalry.

[Scott Weber]

how bout bears/packers? imo that is one of the best rivalries around.
no.
cards cubs.
no.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

cards cubs.
ya, right.

[ActorInThisPlay]

cards cubs.
no way...Giants/Dodgers is bigger then that

[Caleb Cattivera]

no way...Giants/Dodgers is bigger then that

maybe out west yes. but in the midwest its cubs cards and it goes back a bit farther than giants dodgers.

[sweetforever]

Yanks - Sox. Without a doubt.

[weezer182]

maybe out west yes. but in the midwest its cubs cards and it goes back a bit farther than giants dodgers.i dont know the giants-dodgers rivalry might go back farther. im too lazy to look it up though

[Caleb Cattivera]

i dont know the giants-dodgers rivalry might go back farther. im too lazy to look it up though

1889 dodgers giants.

1880 cubs cards.

[weezer182]

1889 dodgers giants.

1880 cubs cards.close enough

[marrost]

I love the Duke/UNC rivalry, but Yanks/Sox is simply the greatest rivalry in all of American sports.

The 2003 and 2004 ALCS were absolutely amazing. The former moreso haha.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

1889 dodgers giants.

1880 cubs cards.
There is a lot more hate and animosity in a Giants/Dodgers game.

[Caleb Cattivera]

There is a lot more hate and animosity in a Giants/Dodgers game.

go to a cards cubs game...and youll see hate.

[Caleb Cattivera]

this argument is pointless in a sense. ive never been to giants dodgers and you havent been to cards cubs.

[Spicoli hey bud]

in the US...
1) Yanks/Sox
2) duke/UNC
3) osu/mich

[Caleb Cattivera]

i think osu/mich is bigger than unc/duke

[NetNerdsRevenge]

this argument is pointless in a sense. ive never been to giants dodgers and you havent been to cards cubs.
Actually, I have. Old neighbors moved to St Louis because of the military.

[Caleb Cattivera]

Actually, I have. Old neighbors moved to St Louis because of the military.

still more hate in a cards cubs than dodgers giants. the rivarly's been around longer and theres more to it. not only by going what i feel, but also by whats been voted upon by alot of baseball writers. most times stl chi town is #3. and dodgers giants fourth. the last two times ive been to cards cubs, people've been arrested and two years ago a cubs fan stabbed a cards fan in the bathroom 12 times with a pocket knife haha.

[Scott Weber]

i think osu/mich is bigger than unc/duke
I disagree.

[pinkjinx87]

I'm kinda nervous for UNC...

[mat1419]

i can't believe the results of this poll. two cities a few hundred miles apart that play about 30 times a year in an extended season where not every game really matters

or

2 schools that define a single state, 8 miles apart in a college atmosphere that play once a year on each home court?

this isn't even a contest in my book. osu michigan has a solid claim, but the yankees/red sox are a joke in this poll.

[pinkjinx87]

i can't believe the results of this poll. two cities a few hundred miles apart that play about 30 times a year in an extended season where not every game really matters

or

2 schools that define a single state, 8 miles apart in a college atmosphere that play once a year on each home court?

this isn't even a contest in my book. osu michigan has a solid claim, but the yankees/red sox are a joke in this poll.I agree.

[weezer182]

still more hate in a cards cubs than dodgers giants. the rivarly's been around longer and theres more to it. not only by going what i feel, but also by whats been voted upon by alot of baseball writers. most times stl chi town is #3. and dodgers giants fourth. the last two times ive been to cards cubs, people've been arrested and two years ago a cubs fan stabbed a cards fan in the bathroom 12 times with a pocket knife haha.a dude was killed in the parking lot at a giants and dodgers game a couple years ago. one of the guys was a dodgers fan the other was a giants fan. it was on americans most wanted. i do agree though, its too hard to compare

[Spicoli hey bud]

i can't believe the results of this poll. two cities a few hundred miles apart that play about 30 times a year in an extended season where not every game really matters

or

2 schools that define a single state, 8 miles apart in a college atmosphere that play once a year on each home court?

this isn't even a contest in my book. osu michigan has a solid claim, but the yankees/red sox are a joke in this poll.
I see what you're saying, but the fact that they play that many times almost intensifies the rivalry come playoff time. You're forgetting about the instances in which the games DO matter.

[Caleb Cattivera]

I disagree.

When Ohio Stadium opened in 1922, Michigan spoiled the party with a 22-0 victory. The rivalry was heated in the early days as both have been long-time college football powers. But it got even hotter in 1969, when Bo Schembechler took over as Michigan's coach and upset Woody Hayes' No. 1-ranked, undefeated Buckeyes. Four times in the next six years, both teams were ranked in the top five when they met. In 1970 and 1973, both were undefeated (they tied 10-10 in '73). From 1970 through 1975, Michigan entered without a loss every year. The Wolverines won just once. Ohio State was 9-0-1 in 1993, 11-0 in 1995 and 10-0 in 1996. The Buckeyes lost each time. That is rivalry.

[Spicoli hey bud]

When Ohio Stadium opened in 1922, Michigan spoiled the party with a 22-0 victory. The rivalry was heated in the early days as both have been long-time college football powers. But it got even hotter in 1969, when Bo Schembechler took over as Michigan's coach and upset Woody Hayes' No. 1-ranked, undefeated Buckeyes. Four times in the next six years, both teams were ranked in the top five when they met. In 1970 and 1973, both were undefeated (they tied 10-10 in '73). From 1970 through 1975, Michigan entered without a loss every year. The Wolverines won just once. Ohio State was 9-0-1 in 1993, 11-0 in 1995 and 10-0 in 1996. The Buckeyes lost each time. That is rivalry.
Carolina and Duke have met 10 times when both teams were ranked in the top five of the Associated Press poll. Carolina holds a 6-4 advantage in those games. The teams have met 36 times when both teams are ranked in the top 10 of the AP poll. Duke holds a 19-17 advantage in those games.

Combined paid attendance over the last 10 seasons for Carolina-Duke games: 445,113.
Combined paid attendance for the last 10 national championship games: 427,395. (taken from unc's website)

It's State U. vs. elite institution. Colonial vs. gothic. Southern hospitality vs. Northern interlopers. Quintessential college town vs. isolated college campus. The expanse of the Dean Dome vs. the coziness of Cameron Indoor Stadium. Carolina's "wine-and-cheese crowd" vs. Duke's Cameron Crazies. Thirteen consecutive Sweet 16s vs. seven Final Fours in nine years. (cnnsi)

that is rivalry.

[Caleb Cattivera]

Carolina and Duke have met 10 times when both teams were ranked in the top five of the Associated Press poll. Carolina holds a 6-4 advantage in those games. The teams have met 36 times when both teams are ranked in the top 10 of the AP poll. Duke holds a 19-17 advantage in those games.

Combined paid attendance over the last 10 seasons for Carolina-Duke games: 445,113.
Combined paid attendance for the last 10 national championship games: 427,395. (taken from unc's website)

It's State U. vs. elite institution. Colonial vs. gothic. Southern hospitality vs. Northern interlopers. Quintessential college town vs. isolated college campus. The expanse of the Dean Dome vs. the coziness of Cameron Indoor Stadium. Carolina's "wine-and-cheese crowd" vs. Duke's Cameron Crazies. Thirteen consecutive Sweet 16s vs. seven Final Fours in nine years. (cnnsi)

that is rivalry.

that's nice.

i just copied mine from espn hahaha. being in the big ten and being able to see this heated rivalry i think its much bigger. an also at the end of the century it was voted #1 rivalry of all time. duke unc was fourth.

[PunkVideoGuys]

IMO,

Yanks/Red Sox>UNC/Duke>OSU/Mich

[Scott Weber]

Carolina and Duke have met 10 times when both teams were ranked in the top five of the Associated Press poll. Carolina holds a 6-4 advantage in those games. The teams have met 36 times when both teams are ranked in the top 10 of the AP poll. Duke holds a 19-17 advantage in those games.

Combined paid attendance over the last 10 seasons for Carolina-Duke games: 445,113.
Combined paid attendance for the last 10 national championship games: 427,395. (taken from unc's website)

It's State U. vs. elite institution. Colonial vs. gothic. Southern hospitality vs. Northern interlopers. Quintessential college town vs. isolated college campus. The expanse of the Dean Dome vs. the coziness of Cameron Indoor Stadium. Carolina's "wine-and-cheese crowd" vs. Duke's Cameron Crazies. Thirteen consecutive Sweet 16s vs. seven Final Fours in nine years. (cnnsi)

that is rivalry.
bingo! OSU - Michigan is sweet, but nothing in college sports compares to Duke/UNC. Both teams are just consistently amazing every year, there's such legendary players from both schools, and over the past 15 years there's no debate.

[mikeford]

whens the last time someone from duke/unc fought each other on the field of play?

whens the last time the markee player on one of those teams threw down with a COACH on the other team?

whens the last time someone from duke/unc started a fight with some grounds crew?

you dudes are tripping balls if you think anything comes close to red sox/yankees.

[Spicoli hey bud]

whens the last time someone from duke/unc fought each other on the field of play?

whens the last time the markee player on one of those teams threw down with a COACH on the other team?

whens the last time someone from duke/unc started a fight with some grounds crew?

you dudes are tripping balls if you think anything comes close to red sox/yankees.
we're comparing osu/mich to duke/unc...i think it's pretty obvious that most people agree on yanks/sox

[mikeford]

we're comparing osu/mich to duke/unc...i think it's pretty obvious that most people agree on yanks/sox

i was responding to this little bit of idiocy: i can't believe the results of this poll. two cities a few hundred miles apart that play about 30 times a year in an extended season where not every game really matters

or

2 schools that define a single state, 8 miles apart in a college atmosphere that play once a year on each home court?

this isn't even a contest in my book. osu michigan has a solid claim, but the yankees/red sox are a joke in this poll.


i shouldve made that clearer, my fault.

[fire on my lips]

when i made this thread and the poll i made it to compare the UNC-Duke rivalry and the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry. It was just for those two rivalries. A lot of the rivalries mentioned are all up there as great amazing rivalries.

In refrence to Caleb's post way earlier about the Giants-Dodgers rivalry not being that long. The fans hated each other when they were in New York, this continued in California to a less extent.

And with what Tate said about Barca-Real Madrid, IMO, thats the most intense rivalry in the world. Those fans wouldn't think twice about killing each other. For those who don't know Real Madrid has always been the government team (Franco created it), and Barcalona (city and club) has always been disrespected by people from Madrid because they are from the north of Spain and many are Basque (I think, not 100% positive).
Soccer rivalries will always be the most passionate, because of the violence

[fire on my lips]

we're comparing osu/mich to duke/unc...i think it's pretty obvious that most people agree on yanks/sox
i missed that too, so yeah

[mikeford]

soccer shouldnt even factor in to the discussion because most soccer fans are legally insane. especially in italy where there are facist regimes rooting for teams and in south america where apparently people through lit flares at players on the field.

[Scott Weber]

soccer shouldnt even factor in to the discussion because most soccer fans are legally insane. especially in italy where there are facist regimes rooting for teams and in south america where apparently people through lit flares at players on the field.
hahaha "most soccer fans" are legally insane. that made my day

[mikeford]

hahaha "most soccer fans" are legally insane. that made my day

i say most because there are soccer fans in America (few, but they exist) and i am pretty sure they dont riot before and after games.

[weezer182]

i say most because there are soccer fans in America (few, but they exist) and i am pretty sure they dont riot before and after games.i wish soccer was huge in america like it is in europe

[pinkjinx87]

i wish soccer was huge in america like it is in europeMe too.

[fire on my lips]

soccer shouldnt even factor in to the discussion because most soccer fans are legally insane. especially in italy where there are facist regimes rooting for teams and in south america where apparently people through lit flares at players on the field.
hahahaha
Last year there was a big thing about flares in stadiums in Italy, the goalkeeper of one of the teams got hit in the back with one. Cell phones are a huge problem too. You see people go out to kick a corner and they're are phones flying past them.
Soccer really is no where near as bloody as it used to be in the early 80's.

[mikeford]

who the fuck would waste their cellphone throwing it at a motherfucker? those things are expensive. havent these people heard of D batteries?

[fire on my lips]

stupidest part about throwing the cellphones is that their SIM card is in it, so it's trackable. So everyone who throws their phone at a game gets caught for it.

[asianxcore]

wisconsin - minnesota/ giants - dodgers. i swear to god im not biased/

[somethingyellow]

stupidest part about throwing the cellphones is that their SIM card is in it, so it's trackable. So everyone who throws their phone at a game gets caught for it.hahaha ya no shit, they weren't too smart

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hahaha ya no shit, they weren't too smart
You see the Everton - Manu game last year, when Carroll got hit in the face with a pound coin, that made my week.

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You see the Everton - Manu game last year, when Carroll got hit in the face with a pound coin, that made my week.haha no but I heard about it. One day I will be in england at a game which will be amazing

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haha no but I heard about it. One day I will be in england at a game which will be amazing
I'm hoping my time at that will be next January at White Heart Lane, with Tottenham in the second round of the Champions League and a top of the Premiership with Chelsea and Arsenal in the relegation zone.
I can dream can't I?

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I'm hoping my time at that will be next January at White Heart Lane, with Tottenham in the second round of the Champions League and a top of the Premiership with Chelsea and Arsenal in the relegation zone.
I can dream can't I?haha keep dreaming. Just imagine if Ballack joins Chelsea

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haha keep dreaming. Just imagine if Ballack joins Chelsea
If he did who would he bump? I hope Essain.
Essain, Sol Campbell (traitor) and Senderos are the three players who when the get hurt i laugh my ass off and i'm verry jolly. lol