Savestheglory

[Matthew]

Your sig makes you look like a fucking retard.

Fascism hasn't been "ended". Many countries still ive under a dictator who doesn't acknowledge people's rights.

Nazism still exists. Nazism is carried on by neo-nazis.

And btw, war didn't end either of the above. Fascism runs rampant and nazism was ended by the Nueremburg trials and resolutions which fincancially devastated Germany and the Nazi party.

Slavery was not ended by the Civil War. The Civil War wasn't even about slaves. It was about sate's rights. Abe Lincoln even said that if he could win the war without freeing a slave he would and if he had to free them all to win he would. He did the Emancipation Proclamation to get back at the south.

And slavery still exists in many African nations.

Communism still exists. ITs called Cuba. ANd comunism is spreading thorugh south and central america. And there is a communist party in America,

The US: was not "created" by war. It was created by the declaration of independence. And that just shows how ethnocentric your thinking is that you put the creation of the US on the same level as slavery "ending".


Also war has:

perpetuated the instability and poverty of south african nations

killed millions and millions of people

conquered far more nations than it has liberated

started in Israel/palestine, india/pakistan, south africa, and many other nations and shows no sign of stopping.

[The Nephilm]

i too was appaled by the idiocy of his sig but you went a step futher than me and actually made a thread for it

well done!

[LeftCoastEnvius]

And hes back!!!!!!!!!

[LeftCoastEnvius]

again

[The Nephilm]

i've been back...

[yeat182]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy


And btw, war didn't end either of the above. Fascism runs rampant and nazism was ended by the Nueremburg trials and resolutions which fincancially devastated Germany and the Nazi party.



the Nuremburg trials are a result of WWII, it was a war crimes tribunal, thus requiring a war. without WWII, there would have been no trial. and also, it didn't finacially devesate germany, it tried soldiers accused of war crimes. the marshall plan actually gave loads of money to germany, among other countries, to boost its economy following the devestation of the war.

[savestheglory]

i don't really care... those are lame-ass arguements, my sig is great

LOOK!! \|/

[savestheglory]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy

The US: was not "created" by war. It was created by the declaration of independence. And that just shows how ethnocentric your thinking is that you put the creation of the US on the same level as slavery "ending".





um yes the united states was created by war, we wouldn't be a country without the revolutionary war, we can't just write up a paper, get some guys to sign it and all of a sudden brittain says "ok you guys are a country" we had to fight the war, and win the war to truly become a country... you are wrong

and nazism WAS ended by ww2 more or less, the nazis aren't exactly a prominent fighting force anymore, hundreds of thousands of jews are not exactly being slaughtered in europe for the time being...

what about communism in russia? you cannot just pick out tiny exceptions to my sig like cuba and "small countries" in africa.. more or less my signature is right on the money so why don't you just shut up, war is horrible but necessary

[savestheglory]

i didn't mean to imply that war ended these things on earth forever for good....

and i didn't say the civil war was ABOUT slavery, it ended slavery in the united states....

http://www.protestwarrior.com/
go to the t-shirts section, i bought this t-shirt and i wear it alot, it's great

so you are saying war is completely unnecessary? and that if you don't fight anybody everyone will be in peace? i'm just wondering if that is your theory... you cannot dispute facts, what i'm saying is fact, the u.s.a became a free country at the end of the revolutionary war, slavery was abolished at the end of the civil war, adolph hitler and his army were destroyed at the end of ww2.... these are REAL events real things that took place because of war

[savestheglory]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
Your sig makes you look like a fucking retard.

Fascism hasn't been "ended". Many countries still ive under a dictator who doesn't acknowledge people's rights.

And btw, war didn't end either of the above. Fascism runs rampant and nazism was ended by the Nueremburg trials and resolutions which fincancially devastated Germany and the Nazi party.


how do you think we are going to have to get rid of these fascist leaders? do you think that if we ask them politely to leave they will just throw their hands up and say ok? do you think if we send them an olive branch in the mail they will cry and give up their power? unfortunately the use of force is NECESSARY.....

[savestheglory]

would nazism be better or worse now without ww2?

would slavery exist or be gone without civil war?

would the united states exist without the revolutionary war?


just answer the questions

[yeat182]

how many times in a row are you gonna post?

[savestheglory]

i'm going for some records.. i guess i'll post until they answer

[Justin_stacy]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by savestheglory
um yes the united states was created by war, we wouldn't be a country without the revolutionary war, we can't just write up a paper, get some guys to sign it and all of a sudden brittain says "ok you guys are a country" we had to fight the war, and win the war to truly become a country... you are wrong

I'll agree with ya that the US wouldn't be around with the RW.


and nazism WAS ended by ww2 more or less, the nazis aren't exactly a prominent fighting force anymore, hundreds of thousands of jews are not exactly being slaughtered in europe for the time being...

The ideas of NAZISM have not been ended, they are alive and being taught here in the country, how many white suprmacy groups do you think there are in the USA, and they have mass power in the areas they are located and on the internet.



what about communism in russia? you cannot just pick out tiny exceptions to my sig like cuba and "small countries" in africa.. more or less my signature is right on the money so why don't you just shut up, war is horrible but necessary

Tiny exceptions? China is the largest country in the world and its still very communist. Also the second largerst country INDIA is also very communist. Communist are still a large minority in the Russian parlament.
So just from china alone 1/5 ofthe world is still governed by communisim.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by savestheglory

what about communism in russia? you cannot just pick out tiny exceptions to my sig like cuba and "small countries" in africa.. more or less my signature is right on the money so why don't you just shut up, war is horrible but necessary

i cant believe i forgot to say something on this, WE didn't be the communist in a "War" we bet them, if you can say that, through the prosperity of capitalism and the oppression of communism, no all out war was fought, the cold war was not a war in the senses that your using the word.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy


And btw, war didn't end either of the above. Fascism runs rampant and nazism was ended by the Nueremburg trials and resolutions which fincancially devastated Germany and the Nazi party.

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Fincancially germany came out of wwII (the west at least the communist destroyed east germany along with eastern europe) much stronger then they had ever been, we, throught marshel plan, rebuilt industry, funded economiclly the business sect in germany, we did this so well, that soon they began to bet us out in the world market, along with JApan which we did the same thing for.

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by savestheglory

what about communism in russia? you cannot just pick out tiny exceptions to my sig like cuba and "small countries" in africa.. more or less my signature is right on the money so why don't you just shut up, war is horrible but necessary

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/ch/govern.html
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/kn/govern.html

go back into whatever hole you came from and spare us your stupidity PLEASE!

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/ch/govern.html
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/kn/govern.html

go back into whatever hole you came from and spare us your stupidity PLEASE!
But China and North Korea are great places to live. Man imagine the freedom in China of only being able to have one kid, lets hope its a boy though, otherwise we'll have to kill it.

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
But China and North Korea are great places to live. Man imagine the freedom in China of only being able to have one kid, lets hope its a boy though, otherwise we'll have to kill it.

Shut the fuck up trailor trash. Haven't you been embarrassed enough on this board yet

[NOFXdesendents5]

yeah, im on savestheglory's side, and even i think it is retarded.

[evil zach]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
But China and North Korea are great places to live. Man imagine the freedom in China of only being able to have one kid, lets hope its a boy though, otherwise we'll have to kill it.
That only applies to a small group of people. I think its members of the party, but I could be mistaken. I do however know for a fact that for the majority of the population it isn't much of an issue

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
That only applies to a small group of people. I think its members of the party, but I could be mistaken. I do however know for a fact that for the majority of the population it isn't much of an issue
I dont know for sure, but i could have sworn that everyone was limited to one child per household. Killing them unless they are a boy is just because they want a worker in their family, true love right?

[evil zach]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
I dont know for sure, but i could have sworn that everyone was limited to one child per household. Killing them unless they are a boy is just because they want a worker in their family, true love right?
My grandparents just got back from china. they told me that they were very upfront when explaining government polocy, and thats what they said about the child limit.

[yeat182]

i think that rule applies only to people that live in the rural country side, but i'm not sure either. either way it sucks.

[Justin_stacy]

There is no limit to children in china, but people who stick with one child get tax benefits, vaction leaves, better housing, better job oportunities, and stuff like that. But the government dosen't force you have only one child, they just make your life miserable with more.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by yeat182
i think that rule applies only to people that live in the rural country side, but i'm not sure either. either way it sucks.

You got it back warrods, it more applys to urban families.

[yeat182]

oops