Black Children Kicked Out of Pool

[Love As Arson]

And on Tuesday, the swim club's president issued a statement saying, "There was concern that a lot of kids would change the complexion … and the atmosphere of the club."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/parenting/2009/07/black_children_kicked_out_of_p.html ?hpid=news-col-blog

[loveisdead]

Fuck that.

[open mind]

parts of pennsylvania are more racist then the deep south.

[zion the lion]

Poor babies! I hope they get a personal apology from someone in charge and not just some "issued statement".

Also, what do they mean by change the complexion of the club?

[stayforawhile]

I just saw this story covered on the news. It's absolutely disgusting.

[Machu505]

Jesus fucking Christ.

[paper halo]

Wow. That's fucked up.

[onetwentyseven]

fucking sickening.

[Jake Denning]

whattttt

[Manicapathy]

Um...I read this comment about the article on the page
"If I were a parent of one of these kids, I'd be livid. How this could happen in a country with a black President is beyond me. I thought this kind of overt discrimination had given a last cough and died a long time ago. Silly me, I guess."

As long as there are two people who are different in any way shape or form on this planet, one is going to think they are superior for some bullshit reason. Just because we live in this modern era of ours, doesn't mean stuff like this just magically disappears, and to think so is kinda ignorant. Hopefully, one day we will reach some wonderful utopia wherein everyone can get along despite their ethnic background, but to think that will happen in any of our lifetimes is wishful thinking at best. Racism, it's wrong, BUT IT'S HERE TO STAY.....for a while, at least.

[SSLYBY]

Doesn't surprise me one bit, Racism is still around people.

[saysmydoctor]

The complexion of the pool? What, was the chlorine going to wash the black off them? Fucking bigots.

[zion the lion]

The complexion of the pool? What, was the chlorine going to wash the black off them? Fucking bigots.

Thats what I thought at first too, and then I thought that maybe they meant that more and more kids on the browner side of the spectrum would try to swim there too.

[BryterJonah]

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/07/16/pool.jpg

[ArmedROBery]

Wow, I'm disgusted. Some people are just so fucking backwards it's unbelievable.

[Machu505]

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/07/16/pool.jpg
Is it wrong that when I first heard this story, this picture immediately came to mind?

[BryterJonah]

I hate when stupid memes are the first thing that come to mind with stories like this.

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[samsara]

That's dumb but racism will always be around.

[thespearkid]

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/07/16/pool.jpg
Beat me to it.

[Nevuk]

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/07/16/pool.jpg
This sadly, was my first thought as well. Although 4chan is probably having a field day with this.

[Praetor]

This can't be so, racism is over. We have a half-black president. I'm sure it's a mistake.

[kazuma_ootaro28]

"There was concern that a lot of kids would change the complexion … and the atmosphere of the club."

'Uh, what are all these black kids doing here?' 'I'm scared they might do something to my child.'

Really? Morons.

[ghostyouare]

From what I read, the club had kicked out other, non-minority. clubs earlier.

[TeachBirds2Fly]

Fuck that, if that happened to someone I knew I would fucking not let it slide I would make sure everyone knew what racists they are.

[Justin_stacy]

Meanwhile, the director of another camp that also had its membership canceled said she believes the club's explanation that numbers and not ethnicity was the reason.

"It was definitely an overcrowding issue," said Joanne Rosenthal of Storybook Children's Center of northeast Philadelphia. "It was obviously more than they were used to dealing with."

Rosenthal said at least half of her 25-member group was made up of racial minorities, and their money was also returned after one visit. But she said she thought the group had been treated "extremely fairly."

"It's not a small pool, but two-thirds of it is deep water, which children are not allowed

http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_12808150

...this gets so tiring.

From what I read, the club had kicked out other, non-minority. clubs earlier.

they were mixed race day camps.

[billyboatkid]

Wow, that's terrible.

[Smeee]

Horace Gibson, a parent of a camper told NBC that "The pool attendants came and told the black children that they did not allow minorities in the club and needed the children to leave immediately."

I don't know the laws in the US but over here in the UK, that's 100% illegal.

[ghostyouare]

http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_12808150

...this gets so tiring.



they were mixed race day camps.
Oh alright, cant really gather too much from that either way then.

[Justin_stacy]

Oh alright, cant really gather too much from that either way then.

...its hard to understand any story that lacks objective coverage.

It very well could have been about 'racism', but it could have just as, if not more, likely been a safety/crowd concern. It seems like the media was quick to judge without wanting to fully understand the story.

[J.C.]

In fairness to vanilla faces, we're afraid of blacks potentially dominating water sports. Swimming is really all we have left. And hockey.

[oh...rly]

Terribly written article, full of bullshit assumptions.

There were two choices the club had.
-Let the camp stay in an overcrowded pool, wait for someone to get hurt, and then get sued.
or
-Tell the camp they had to leave to because they couldn't accommodate them. And then deal with racism accusations.

They were fucked either way.

[Justin_stacy]

In fairness to vanilla faces, we're afraid of blacks potentially dominating water sports. Swimming is really all we have left. And hockey.

:-d ......what about lacrosse?

[ghostyouare]

...its hard to understand any story that lacks objective coverage.

It very well could have been about 'racism', but it could have just as, if not more, likely been a safety/crowd concern. It seems like the media was quick to judge without wanting to fully understand the story.
Ho fo sho.

Quick note, theres no reason to put racism in quotes. If it was indeed because the children were predominately black then its racism, not `racism.` But ya, I agree it could very well be because they had a valid safety concern.

[ghostyouare]

:-d ......what about lacrosse?
Not really a sport.

[Machu505]

Not really a sport.
NASCAR?

[ghostyouare]

Terribly written article, full of bullshit assumptions.

There were two choices the club had.
-Let the camp stay in an overcrowded pool, wait for someone to get hurt, and then get sued.
or
-Tell the camp they had to leave to because they couldn't accommodate them. And then deal with racism accusations.

They were fucked either way.
Well, the problem is that they took the money and Im going to go out on a limb here and say they probably had a rough estimate of number of kids that would be coming. If not, then whoever is in charge of that is inept and should not have that job in the first place. So ultimately, yes, they were fucked either way but it was pretty much their own fault.

[ArTkY_]

ridiculous

[ghostyouare]

NASCAR?
If nascar is a sport then Im a fucking athlete every time I drive to school.

[Machu505]

If nascar is a sport then Im a fucking athlete every time I drive to school.
Agreed.

[J.C.]

:-d ......what about lacrosse?

Previously dominated by Jim Brown.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/jim_brown.jpg

[Machu505]

How does the overcrowding excuse explain the "change the complexion" quote?

[Justin_stacy]

Previously dominated by Jim Brown.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/jim_brown.jpg


Thank god for River Dancing, then.

[oh...rly]

Well, the problem is that they took the money and Im going to go out on a limb here and say they probably had a rough estimate of number of kids that would be coming. If not, then whoever is in charge of that is inept and should not have that job in the first place. So ultimately, yes, they were fucked either way but it was pretty much their own fault.

Of course, i'm not saying that it wasn't their fault, i'm just saying that people use the race card way too much, and sometimes for no reason at all. Sure someone at the club might have made some racist comments, but did they kicked out of the club because they were black. I doubt it.

[ghostyouare]

Of course, i'm not saying that it wasn't their fault, i'm just saying that people use the race card way too much, and sometimes for no reason at all. Sure someone at the club might have made some racist comments, but did they kicked out of the club because they were black. I doubt it.
Agreed, race card feels like it is tossed around all too often. However, the club does have some explaining to do and I dont feel like all matters are resolved. Again, they put themselves in this position and Id rather keep an open mind to this matter until further details are released.

[Love As Arson]

Of course, i'm not saying that it wasn't their fault, i'm just saying that people use the race card way too much, and sometimes for no reason at all.
"In that statement to NBC10, he had said, "There is a lot of concern that a lot of kids would change the complexion ... the atmosphere of the club."

"This is a terrible misinterpretation of what I stand for. This is just wrong," Duesler said while standing with his wife Bernice at the pool's gate. "That was a terrible choice of words, I admit."

He said that what he meant to convey was the number of campers in the pool compared to the number of available lifeguards had created an unsafe environment."

[anthonydarko]

That's pretty fucked up.

[The Pharmacist]

:jawdrop:
yeah the article may be one sided, but "change the complexion..." like what?

[ghostyouare]

So the daycare was invited back. So, it is pretty safe to assume it was more about their intolerance rather than a legitiment safety issue.




http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/12/pennsylvania.pool.problems/index.html

[Z-train]

Shoudent we just wipe out the rich,Get rid of them and racsicist country clubs are gone,sadly this wont fix the problem that I cant spell racsism.

[Duexy]

Shoudent we just wipe out the rich,Get rid of them and racsicist country clubs are gone,sadly this wont fix the problem that I cant spell racsism.


what the fuck

[exploration #4]

Shoudent we just wipe out the rich,Get rid of them and racsicist country clubs are gone,sadly this wont fix the problem that I cant spell racsism.

hit the nail on the head with that one

[t_ashley]

Yeah, it's not that crazy.
The other day i was at meijers with my neice Laney and we had went to the store to get some cat food to take up to the animal shelter, always i was trying to rush b/c it was closing in like an hour 1/2, i cant remember what it is she wanted but she clocked out on me over something little as we were leaving the store. she was falling on the floor crying and shit so i grabbed her and picked her up and started heading to my car.
Well I hear someone behing me yelling "you need to stop and im calling to police," and all this shit about "you need to let go of her."
So i turned around and it's some lady that works with meijers. I asked her what the problem was and she ignored me and looked at my neice and put her arms out talking about " are you okay? do you know this lady? lets go find your mommy?"
Im like WTF? so i asked her "have you lost your damn mind?" she steadly kept ignoring me and finally Laney, who was laying on my shoulder, looked at her and said " leave me alone"
So, I told the lady she was my neice and she said "do i look stupid to you?"
I said "obviously you are, because you come runnin out the store like your captain save a kid"
She tried to ask for my ID and a bunch of shit, and i was outside meijers for an hour just so i could to the shelter (which closed by the time we were finished.)

All this because some old white lady thought i was trying to steal someones kid.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g72/tiairraashley/Devin081.jpg

[SLOWPOKE LOPEZ]

well, to be completely fair to the lady, you are black carrying a screaming white kid out of a store. thats not really racist. that would be suspicious looking if you were white and she were black.

[zion the lion]

well, to be completely fair to the lady, you are black carrying a screaming white kid out of a store. thats not really racist. that would be suspicious looking if you were white and she were black.

No, that would not be suspicious, at all. My mom was the only black person who I was raised around, and all of those times that I was out with white people as a child (including white adult men) and I was screaming and crying, nobody stopped to question it, because they knew I was under their care.

[t_ashley]

It was just sooo retarded. I mean, she was saying " An-TiTi lets go.. wanna go home" (she is staying with me). and its like I had some pictures in the car and i showed them those and she was like "how to i know you didnt take these today??" It was just retarded because she was younger in the pictures and it was just too much work for some cat food.

I mean, i admit she doesnt look anything like me, but the lady didnt have to ignore me and continue to try and take her from me just because she was crying. she had stopped crying once we out in the parking lot so...

[theguy77]

i hate that fucking stereotype, that minorities are all apt to commit crimes. there are two reasons why it's continually perpetuated: 1) the media's coverage of minority criminals versus white criminals has been PROVEN in studies to be completely lopsided, and 2) dangerous inner city areas tend to be mostly concentrated with minorities, and that one is a product of segregation and white flight in the 1950s -- white people back then had control over all the infrastructure, and when public areas were desegregated, the white communities migrated out to the suburbs to avoid integration with minorities, leaving the infrastructure to go completely unmonitored as the areas became wretched without proper policing or adequate schooling/hospital care. so technically people are perpetuating a stereotype that was founded on grounds that were their own previous generation's fault.

[SLOWPOKE LOPEZ]

No, that would not be suspicious, at all.
seriously?
a black woman, pulling on the arm of a screaming white child, trying to get the child into her car... you seriously dont think it wouldn't be the slightest bit suspicious? especially to people trained to notice situations exactly like this? not to mention the woman is probably a mother herself, who typically are especially observant around other little kids.
if you think her actions were racially motivated, then its time for me to stop coming here. there's no helping this place.

[zion the lion]

seriously?
a black woman, pulling on the arm of a screaming white child, trying to get the child into her car... you seriously dont think it wouldn't be the slightest bit suspicious? especially to people trained to notice situations exactly like this? not to mention the woman is probably a mother herself, who typically are especially observant around other little kids.
if you think her actions were racially motivated, then its time for me to stop coming here. there's no helping this place.

No, I didnt think her actions were racially motivated, I was just saying that it was motivated by ignorance. Nobody ever thought that there was something wrong when a white man or woman would drag me out of the store while i was crying, nor did they when I've had to drag little white/romanian kids out of the store while they were crying.

But the woman should have had a little common sense to at least ask what was going on with the situation, and stop when the little girl had her head on her aunts shoulder and told her to leave her alone.

[samsara]

My dad thought he was going to have that problem with my nephew, because he is so dark and my nephew is white.
No one ever thought twice about it. Even when my dad was out and about.

[Love As Arson]

seriously?
a black woman, pulling on the arm of a screaming white child, trying to get the child into her car... you seriously dont think it wouldn't be the slightest bit suspicious? especially to people trained to notice situations exactly like this? not to mention the woman is probably a mother herself, who typically are especially observant around other little kids.
if you think her actions were racially motivated, then its time for me to stop coming here. there's no helping this place.
She isn't racist, but her actions were premised on a racist stereotype. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that her only conception of families are those which are ethnically monolithic.