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Justin_stacy

03/25/03, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by savestheglory
screamoemoboy... you have a very interesting theory on war and peace, will you please tell me what you think about war... and what are your opinions on every war fought in the past

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
Ok. I think I understand now.

Let me rephrase what am I saying. There is no such thing as a good war. Say what you will, but there is always an alternative to war. Sometimes that alternative is just sitting there and letting yourself be annihilated, which is rediculous. However, at all times any possible steps to avoid war should be taken.

I feel those steps were not taken in this case. We were to eager to go to war, largely because we were given this image of a clean sweep of Iraq. The POW thing is horrible, but in a way it does have a purpose. It is showing people how horrible war is, and even an "easy war" like this can be risky, nad can devastate or claim the lives of many.

As bad as I feel for the families of the POW's, for the rest of the world this is a much needed eye-opener. We have grown desensitized. We saw war as an easy endeavor that would make everything better. War has consrquences.

And many pushing for war do so because they are immune to those consequences. No fat-ass beuracrat will go to war, none of their kids will be a POW. Same for oil execs. They have nothing to lose, so why not?

There is something to lose. We are seeing that now. War isnt easy, and it isnt fluffy, and it is wrong. While the intentions may be good, the war is NEVER justified.

There is a philosophy called telogy which siggests that the ends justify the means. I DO NOT support that philosophy. As good as the end result may be (and I'm not saying it will be) the war still remains an evil thing, a blemish to remain in our history books.

War is often "justified" by claims of self-defense ( I dont buy it) but going with that logic, this war isnt justified. Democracy cant work everywhere. Its a sad truth, but democracy has failed. Look at South America - lieration from colonial Spain has resulted in widespread povery and disease. Thats why regime change or end to communism isnt enough to justify a war to me.

Also, we demonize people like Saddam, but other atrocities are overlookecd by the US when we see it fit. Our "moral justification" can alter based on money or politics.

During WW2, Stalin killed just as many (if not more) than Hitler using similar methods. Stalin has not been demonized to the degree that Hitler has becasue he was on our side.

I hope this rambling incoherece has given some insight as to what i men when i say "all war is wrong." I am a pacifist, and I do think peace is feasible, but the first and most potent barier to it is this idea that our society has built that peace can never work and that antyone who says otherwise is a hippie or ***.

Thats why I am a pacifist.

I think this might help ya seeing as screameo isn't on.