Forgotten Debut Albums

[JimGray]

For better or for worse, it is not uncommon that many well-known bands exploded off their sophomore album. So help me compile a list of forgotten debuts.

I'll start:
Thursday - Waiting
Fall Out Boy - Evening Out With Your Giirlfriend
Lifetime - Background
A Wilhelm Scream - Benefits Of Thinking Out Loud (and all the Smackin Isaiah releases)
The Bled - His First Crush

and a shit ton more I am forgetting.

[PutUp/ShutUpATL]

For better or for worse, it is not uncommon that many well-known bands exploded off their sophomore album. So help me compile a list of forgotten debuts.

I'll start:
Thursday - Waiting
Fall Out Boy - Evening Out With Your Giirlfriend
Lifetime - Background
A Wilhelm Scream - Benefits Of Thinking Out Loud (and all the Smackin Isaiah releases)
The Bled - His First Crush

and a shit ton more I am forgetting.

Im not sure of any really but, Waiting was a great album haha.

[The Pharmacist]

hahaa paramore had a bunch of FUSE airtime with pressure and emergency before MTV picked up Misery Business

[bradsonemanband]

coheed - second stage
armor for sleep - dream to make believe

[JimGray]

coheed - second stage
armor for sleep - dream to make believe

Good call on both.

[JimGray]

I am BUMPing Waiting as we speak.

[Srsly]

Waiting isn't forgotten and what does your post mean?

[raptorz44]

When it comes to mainstream recognition, Tell All Your Friends. And I guess Flyswatter/Buddha/Cheshire Cat by blink, whichever you want to consider their debut.

[bradsonemanband]

NFG - nothing gold can stay

[GuitarR0cker1]

Saves The Day- Can't Slow Down
Say Anything- Baseball
Death Cab For Cutie- You Can Play These Songs With Chords

[micahistheballs]

David Bowie- self titled
Neil Young- self titled
Bob Dylan- self titled

[JimGray]

Waiting isn't forgotten and what does your post mean?

Have you ever heard someone refer to Full Collapse as Thursday's first album?

When it comes to mainstream recognition, Tell All Your Friends. And I guess Flyswatter/Buddha/Cheshire Cat by blink, whichever you want to consider their debut.

I don't know if TAYF is forgotten at all, but good call on Blink.

NFG - nothing gold can stay

Pretty much.

Saves The Day- Can't Slow Down
Say Anything- Baseball
Death Cab For Cutie- You Can Play These Songs With Chords

That was one I meant to post.

David Bowie- self titled
Neil Young- self titled
Bob Dylan- self titled

:wave:

[bradsonemanband]

the first Underoath album is pretty damn forgotten. i don't even remember what it's called.

[eliselovesmusic]

FOB's Evening Out With Your GF is only forgotten - or rather unknown - by the kids who only listened to them after hearing This Ain't A Scene.

To the quote unquote "real" FOB fans (I cringed whilst typing that) it's still a completely relevant album.

[IWasHerHorse]

Bright Eyes - Letting off the Happiness/Collection of Songs/Water/whatever was pre-Fevers and Mirrors.

[JimGray]

the first Underoath album is pretty damn forgotten. i don't even remember what it's called.

Haha, and with good reason =D

FOB's Evening Out With Your GF is only forgotten - or rather unknown - by the kids who only listened to them after hearing This Ain't A Scene.

To the quote unquote "real" FOB fans (I cringed whilst typing that) it's still a completely relevant album.

I disagree completely. I know people who have listened to them since Take This To Your Grave and know nothing about Evening or their split with Project Rocket.

Bright Eyes - Letting off the Happiness/Collection of Songs/Water/whatever was pre-Fevers and Mirrors.

Word.

[kazuma_ootaro28]

!!! - !!!
At the Drive-In - Acrobatic Tenement
Hopesfall - The Frailty of Words
Snow Patrol - Songs For Polarbears

the first Underoath album is pretty damn forgotten. i don't even remember what it's called.

Acts of Depression and everything else pre-They're Only Chasing Safety is forgotten when it comes to Underoath.

[Regards]

!!! - !!!
At the Drive-In - Acrobatic Tenement

Acts of Depression and everything else pre-They're Only Chasing Safety is forgotten when it comes to Underoath.
Acrobactic Tenement isn't forgotten at all, and was probably ATD-I's best album. Same deal with Underoath, everything pre They're Only Chasing Safety is actually quite good.

[kazuma_ootaro28]

Acrobactic Tenement isn't forgotten at all, and was probably ATD-I's best album. Same deal with Underoath, everything pre They're Only Chasing Safety is actually quite good.

Thought nobody else talked about Acrobatic Tenement when it came to At the Drive-In. Old Underoath is good, but it seems most pay attention to TOCS and after and have forgotten about the other albums.

[CellarGhosts]

You pretty much listed all the ones I was going to Jim, ha. I'l add When The Battery Dies by Smoke Or Fire to the list as well. Then again that was when they were called Jericho so I guess that doesn't help much with it being "forgotten". I think Remission by Mastodon might qualify as a "forgotten debut" as well, as would the Goo Goo Dolls' self-titled.

Then again I'm not so sure that Remission is all that forgotten. Seems like a lot of people I talk to who like Mastodon don't know about it though, and are just familiar with Leviathan and everything after.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

A lot of these albums don't seem very forgotten, at least everyone in this thread has heard of them.

[FueledByFrodo]

All Time Low - The Party Scene

[zachff]

All Time Low - The Party Scene

Fuck yes. Great album man

[zachff]

And Yellowcard - One For the Kids is a great album.
Everclear - World of Noise / Sparke and Fade
Gym Class Heroes - ... For the Kids

[FueledByFrodo]

And Yellowcard - One For the Kids is a great album.
Everclear - World of Noise / Sparke and Fade
Gym Class Heroes - ... For the Kids
Technically not their debut.

[zachff]

Technically not their debut.
You are very right sir. I guess I would, if pressed, say Still Standing was their debut since that was the first CD with Ryan on vocals but if we're talking about Midget Tossing then yeah, I was way off.

[11:11]

FOB's Evening Out With Your GF is only forgotten - or rather unknown - by the kids who only listened to them after hearing This Ain't A Scene.

To the quote unquote "real" FOB fans (I cringed whilst typing that) it's still a completely relevant album.
1. That was completely unnecessary since you used quotes right after.
2. As a fan since TTTYG, it's still a sucky album.

[batmannj]

Acrobactic Tenement isn't forgotten at all, and was probably ATD-I's best album. Same deal with Underoath, everything pre They're Only Chasing Safety is actually quite good.
Those early EP's are so good. I loved it when they did that sound.

[voncorn]

Built To Spill - Ultimate Alternative Wavers

[briewer]

Animal Collective- Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished, and pretty everything else before Sung Tongs.

[_><_]

The Fall Of Troy - S/T

[Chop[chop]]

Bright Eyes - Letting off the Happiness/Collection of Songs/Water/whatever was pre-Fevers and Mirrors.

Yup.

[Klatzke]

I wouldn't say waiting was forgotten.

[chipdip18]

hahaa paramore had a bunch of FUSE airtime with pressure and emergency before MTV picked up Misery Business

And they had a release before that too. Not sure if it was an EP or album.

Bright Eyes - Letting off the Happiness/Collection of Songs/Water/whatever was pre-Fevers and Mirrors.

Yeah, there were lots of stuff released before Fevers and Mirrors, but i think the controversy there is music critics being skeptical of really judging it as a real solid first release. Most of it is worse than basement production, and is mostly likely viewed like we would view a kid's collection of youtube covers sold from him blog. Can be taken seriously as a real first release? I think (and may absolutely be wrong) that's why Fevers and Mirrors is considered the first, since it was through a legit studio and was seen as legitimate. Those other releases may have just be re-packaged and sold later through a label.

Although, contradictory to what i just said, i think a read somewhere that music critics did take a listen to A Collection of Songs and just found it laughable.

Animal Collective- Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished, and pretty everything else before Sung Tongs.

And a new generation of listeners (including myself) only listen to Merriweather Post Pavillion and jumped on the bandwagon then, so even albums like Strawberry Jam are overlooked.

[FullCollaspe]

Anything Refused released before The Shape Of Punk To Come

[Brokenhill]

Pink Floyd - 'The Piper at the Gates of Dawn'

Sigur Ros - 'Von' (Somewhat)

[Srsly]

The Fall Of Troy - S/T
Wasn't it like a demo cd of Doppelganger? Does it really count?

[IWasHerHorse]

And they had a release before that too. Not sure if it was an EP or album.



Yeah, there were lots of stuff released before Fevers and Mirrors, but i think the controversy there is music critics being skeptical of really judging it as a real solid first release. Most of it is worse than basement production, and is mostly likely viewed like we would view a kid's collection of youtube covers sold from him blog. Can be taken seriously as a real first release? I think (and may absolutely be wrong) that's why Fevers and Mirrors is considered the first, since it was through a legit studio and was seen as legitimate. Those other releases may have just be re-packaged and sold later through a label.

Although, contradictory to what i just said, i think a read somewhere that music critics did take a listen to A Collection of Songs and just found it laughable.

I definitely think Letting off the Happiness is his debut, I could see how someone could disagree and say Water was his first because it was released in a physical format. Letting off the Happiness was recorded with at least an 8-track, all the songs were written together, a concise track listing was formed, instead of just a compilation of demos.

I think this whole thread is sort of vague, just saying.

[chipdip18]

I definitely think Letting off the Happiness is his debut, I could see how someone could disagree and say Water was his first because it was released in a physical format. Letting off the Happiness was recorded with at least an 8-track, all the songs were written together, a concise track listing was formed, instead of just a compilation of demos.

I think this whole thread is sort of vague, just saying.

It is vague, and that is lame, but i think you could definitely make a strong argument for Letting Off the Happiness being Bright Eye's real debut. It's a step above A Collection of Songs for sure.

[JimGray]

Anything Refused released before The Shape Of Punk To Come

... maybe...

[upthedudeocity]

Lifetime - Background
.


i actually can't even get into early lifetime stuff. it's like two completely different bands.

[JimGray]

i actually can't even get into early lifetime stuff. it's like two completely different bands.

Like I said, there was good reason that some of this shit got forgotten.

[Birdflu777]

Wasn't it like a demo cd of Doppelganger? Does it really count?

No. It was a full album. Five songs were redone for Doppelganger though.

NOT forgotten. Actually, most Troy fans I talk to like that one the most.

[UnderMyDreams]

Said before but, ATL: The Party Scene

blink-182: Buddha
The Ataris - Anywhere but Here

I don't know if this really counts, but I would say Cobra's first album. It was really solid and way better than any of their newer stuff. But people forget about it now since Gabe's been all weird lately.

[B-Bones]

It is vague, and that is lame, but i think you could definitely make a strong argument for Letting Off the Happiness being Bright Eye's real debut. It's a step above A Collection of Songs for sure.

I'd prefer to look at it as a real debut. It's my favorite album from Bright Eyes I think.

[chipdip18]

I'd prefer to look at it as a real debut. It's my favorite album from Bright Eyes I think.

And i would say you have a right to view it as the real debut.

[AndrewIcex]

A lot of the stuff mentioned here is definitely forgotten..

How about..

Incubus - Fungus Amongus

Seems hardly anyone has heard that album.

[11:11]

http://www.interpunk.com/itemimages2/52805.jpg

[chipdip18]

So totally true .

[JimGray]

A lot of the stuff mentioned here is definitely forgotten..

How about..

Incubus - Fungus Amongus

Seems hardly anyone has heard that album.

I think people have heard it, but fair enough.

http://www.interpunk.com/itemimages2/52805.jpg

FUCK YES!

[11:11]

So totally true .
I think people have heard it, but fair enough.



FUCK YES!
Thread officially saved.

[AndrewIcex]

I think people have heard it, but fair enough.



FUCK YES!
They might have, but it seems forgotten to me.

[JimGray]

Thread officially saved.

=D

[Foxholes]

Radiohead- Pablo Honey (the band doesn't have a problem with it being forgotten I'm sure).

[shes.a.ghost]

http://www.interpunk.com/itemimages2/52805.jpgcame here to post this.

[dancelukedance]

Story of the year - Page Avenue

[micahistheballs]

Radiohead- Pablo Honey (the band doesn't have a problem with it being forgotten I'm sure).
I think lots of people remember it for having Creep and for how bad it is.

[upthedudeocity]

gatsby's > the world

[jordalsh]

Punchline- How to Get Kicked Out of the Mall
and, even though its actually a sophomore, Punchline- Self Titled

[briewer]

Antony & the Johnson's self-titled debut
The Flaming Lip's first five or six albums
The Knife's self-titled debut
Kraftwerk's first four albums before Autobahn
Les Savy Fav's 3/5
The Microphones' first five or six albums
My Bloody Valentine's Isn't Anything
Neutral Milk Hotel's On Avery Island
Of Montreal's Cherry Peel
Peter Bjorn & John's self-titled debut
Spoon's Telephono
The White Stripes' self-titled debut
among others.

[thespearkid]

Baseball by Say Anything. It's better than IDOTG.

[JimGray]

Antony & the Johnson's self-titled debut
The Flaming Lip's first five or six albums
The Knife's self-titled debut
Kraftwerk's first four albums before Autobahn
Les Savy Fav's 3/5
The Microphones' first five or six albums
My Bloody Valentine's Isn't Anything
Neutral Milk Hotel's On Avery Island
Of Montreal's Cherry Peel
Peter Bjorn & John's self-titled debut
Spoon's Telephono
The White Stripes' self-titled debut
among others.

Meant to post this one! Good list.

Baseball by Say Anything. It's better than IDOTG.

Not a fan, but yeah, definitely forgotten.

[$eth]

Nothing Gold Can Stay

[Jali]

My Chemical Romance- "I brought you my bullets, you brought me your love"
Which I believe is their ONLY good album. Didn't like 3 cheers and Black Parade was awful beyond belief.

Nirvana- Bleach

The Clash (self titled)

[SophGod]

Thrice - Identity Crisis