Who Was Most Responsible For the Explosion of Pop-Punk During the 90s?

[flks511]

When I saw the Green Day vs. Blink thread, it got me thinking about this. The 90s was such a great decade for music, and around 95 was when pop punk really got big. Which band do you think was most influential during that era?

My personal opinion: Pop-punk lives and dies with Green Day. Everything the band has written is amazing, and Dookie and American Idiot are some of the best albums I've ever heard.

The Offspring is a close second for me. But post what you think and why. I'm interested to hear what everyone has to say.

[Neo Cassady]

As much as it should be any of the others, it was blink getting popular with the release of Enema.

[TotalCollapse]

Blink

[ezco25]

offspring id say
i know blink and green day had huge influences but offspring were making music before both and influenced way more people at the time, and who knows maybe blink or greenday borrowed from offspring

[nellbelle]

Green Day. Without them blowing up in the early 90s, Blink never would have gotten signed to a major label and been given the chance to get as big as they are. Green Day's fame precedes Blink's by a few years, with their breakout and massive mainstream success coming in '94 with Dookie, and Blink not even getting any attention until around '97 when Dammit became a big hit. The Offspring and Rancid both preceded Blink, too. The Offspring charted the highest indie record sale with Smash clear back in '94, and Rancid became at least momentarily huge in '95.

Love Blink all you want, and I won't deny their influence, but no radio station, label, or MTV show would have given them a chance if Green Day, The Offspring, and Rancid hadn't brought pop punk to the masses and made it palatable to the mainstream first.

[batmannj]

Blink 182 Of Course!!!!!!1111!!!!!! 1!!! !! !!!11! !! !!!1 11!!!!

[AussieBoy]

probably blink, cause when you hear of all the bands like NFG, FYS, FOB, ATL, P!ATD (anything else acronym!) they all say blink was their biggest influence, rather than Green Day or Offspring

[briewer]

I would love to know because that shithead is owed an assbeating.

[White Noise]

As much as it should be any of the others, it was blink getting popular with the release of Enema.

This.

[Say Nothing]

I would love to know because that shithead is owed an assbeating.

^^^This

[TangledUp]

Rancid? X-)

I voted blink. I think them and Green Day both had a lot of influence in the "explosion", but blink had more.

[superichie]

Green Day was the first pop punk band I got into back in '94. Going with them.

[Machu505]

Green Day.

[IceAge/HeatWave]

Green Day. Without them blowing up in the early 90s, Blink never would have gotten signed to a major label and been given the chance to get as big as they are. Green Day's fame precedes Blink's by a few years, with their breakout and massive mainstream success coming in '94 with Dookie, and Blink not even getting any attention until around '97 when Dammit became a big hit. The Offspring and Rancid both preceded Blink, too. The Offspring charted the highest indie record sale with Smash clear back in '94, and Rancid became at least momentarily huge in '95.

Love Blink all you want, and I won't deny their influence, but no radio station, label, or MTV show would have given them a chance if Green Day, The Offspring, and Rancid hadn't brought pop punk to the masses and made it palatable to the mainstream first.

i agree with this, BUT:

without nirvana blowing up none of this happens, and we'd still be listening to glam/ hair metal, and i'd probably have cobained my own ass.


if this is the most influential bands of the 90's, you are sorely fucked up for leaving off 1.)nirvana 2.) weezer 3.)radiohead. however, if this is meant for the pop punk genre only, then it is understandable.

[IceAge/HeatWave]

I would love to know because that shithead is owed an assbeating.

this. lets get 'em.

[nellbelle]

i agree with this, BUT:

without nirvana blowing up none of this happens, and we'd still be listening to glam/ hair metal, and i'd probably have cobained my own ass.


if this is the most influential bands of the 90's, you are sorely fucked up for leaving off 1.)nirvana 2.) weezer 3.)radiohead. however, if this is meant for the pop punk genre only, then it is understandable.

Oh certainly. Green Day only got attention because the labels were desperate for a Nirvana replacement. But the poll was just supposed to be about the most influential pop punk group, hence my choosing Green Day.

[IceAge/HeatWave]

Oh certainly. Green Day only got attention because the labels were desperate for a Nirvana replacement. But the poll was just supposed to be about the most influential pop punk group, hence my choosing Green Day.

i know, i didn't mean to direct it to you haha i was essentially agreeing with you, then got sidetracked and went on a rant to the OP lol sorry for any confusion.

[Loge182]

blink is my favorite band but they owe it all to Green Day. Green Day brought Pop Punk to the mainstream in the 90's, blink rose up and carried it into the 00's

[jay_klinkhammer]

The answer is Green Day, even though Blink is better

[Theseventhson]

Green Day

[fightinirish217]

Green Day, then Blink.

[nlo13]

As much as it should be any of the others, it was blink getting popular with the release of Enema.

this.

[Broden Terry]

I think Blink was most responsible. Although it was a collective effort from a number of those bands and many more.

[MyWorldEntire]

The answer is Green Day, even though Blink is better

Blink isn't objectively better in any way.

Green Day is the answer to this poll.

[Paulb-182]

Green Day, without a doubt

[domotime2]

When I saw the Green Day vs. Blink thread, it got me thinking about this. The 90s was such a great decade for music, and around 95 was when pop punk really got big. Which band do you think was most influential during that era?

My personal opinion: Pop-punk lives and dies with Green Day. Everything the band has written is amazing, and Dookie and American Idiot are some of the best albums I've ever heard.

The Offspring is a close second for me. But post what you think and why. I'm interested to hear what everyone has to say.
i'm a bit confused about this poll. Pop-punk explosion of the mid-90s? how in the hell is blink winning this poll...enema of the state didnt come out until 1999!...haha the decade was freakin' over. And I dont wanna hear any crap about Dude Ranch because everyone and their dog knows that they were still in obscure-land when that album came out.....


Also, which pop punk are we talking here? I mean i'd say Bad Religion, NOFX really helped to bring back the pop-punk into the sub-mainstream. These bands helped spark a plethora of pop punk bands that range from Goldfinger-Rancid-MXPX-Blink-NFG-Reel Big fish-mighty bosstones etc.

Or, are we talking the radio-POP PUNK explosion of 1999-2004 (NFG, Blink, Yellowcard, Homegrown, Allister, Good Charlotte, Sum 41)? Then we can start to talk about blink.

[domotime2]

As much as it should be any of the others, it was blink getting popular with the release of Enema.
which came out in 1999. thats incredible that an album that came out in the summer of 1999 could be responsible for the pop-punk explosion of the 90s.

[muttley]

I can't believe Blink is actually winning over Green Day.

[Loge182]

which came out in 1999. thats incredible that an album that came out in the summer of 1999 could be responsible for the pop-punk explosion of the 90s.

srsly

[Machu505]

I can't believe Blink is actually winning over Green Day.
Seriously. Dookie sold more copies than Enema of the State and came out five years earlier. "All the Small Things" wasn't even released as a single until 2000.

[SmileOfHavok]

Green Day. Without them blowing up in the early 90s, Blink never would have gotten signed to a major label and been given the chance to get as big as they are. Green Day's fame precedes Blink's by a few years, with their breakout and massive mainstream success coming in '94 with Dookie, and Blink not even getting any attention until around '97 when Dammit became a big hit. The Offspring and Rancid both preceded Blink, too. The Offspring charted the highest indie record sale with Smash clear back in '94, and Rancid became at least momentarily huge in '95.

Love Blink all you want, and I won't deny their influence, but no radio station, label, or MTV show would have given them a chance if Green Day, The Offspring, and Rancid hadn't brought pop punk to the masses and made it palatable to the mainstream first.

Thank God someone knows what they're talking about. As much as I've loved Blink-182 (growing up and still today), this members on this website make them out to be such an overrated band.

[jtresk26]

I love Green Day and I am not going against the fact that Dookie help launch a more punk sound in mainstream music, but their follow-ups (Nimrod and Insomniac, which I say is their best album, controversial I know) were more alternative and abrasive in the case of Insomniac and kind of a ska-infused sound in Nimrod and didn't carry that pop-punk sound as much as it was in Dookie. You can't say Rancid because there are a lot of people don't even know about them even today. Goldfinger is classified as ska-punk band back in the day, Bad Religion, which influenced a lot of these bands listed, had a big charter but didn't make much of a dent in hitting mainstream audiences since a lot of people don't know them, like Rancid. Less Than Jake, pshh! The Offspring and Blink-182 I would have to say brought the most responsibility of the pop punk music throughout the 90's into today. With Dookie out, The Offspring hit the scene with Come Out and Play and made Smash one of the most succesful indie albums of all-time, if not the most successful. With Blink, it was a different case. You had it the pop-punk sound established when Cheshire Cat hit the scene, which was a good album, but with more skate punk. When Dude Ranch came out, pop-punk was starting to mellow out and when "Dammit" hit radio waves, it brought the attention they needed when they went into the studio to record Enema of the State, which infused that pop-punk sound a lot people love in blink-182, including myself and made that record their most successful ever (to date). In conclusion to along and kind of drawn out post, The Offspring blew it up and Blink-182 was the band that told everyone this sound is here to stay.

[Hull]

Blink is without a doubt the most influential band of the 90s.
ANY upcoming pop-rock band envies was blink currently has.

[Theseventhson]

False.

[ManicanParty49]

I chose Blink just because I think their singles in the 90's were the biggest.

[SanePsychotic]

Green Day instigated the pop-punk craze; therefore, I picked them. There would be no Blink without Green Day because the market for them wouldn't have been there.

[MyWorldEntire]

Blink is without a doubt the most influential band of the 90s.
ANY upcoming pop-rock band envies was blink currently has.

You are joking right? Ever heard of a little band called Nirvana?

[domotime2]

Blink is without a doubt the most influential band of the 90s.
ANY upcoming pop-rock band envies was blink currently has.
there biggest most popular albums came out 99- and beyond. how are they the most influential band of hte 90s?

[domotime2]

I chose Blink just because I think their singles in the 90's were the biggest.
their singles came out in 1999 and later....i can see why you'd think their singles dominated the 90s

[Croggs]

Some really random choices on here. I understand Rancid/Blink/Green Day. I don't like Nirvana, but they should probably be thrown in there. Possibly Ace of Base, too.

The Offspring is very reasonable too.

[Croggs]

even more edited, sorry read pop-punk explosion part after voting/commenting. That being said throw out nirvana and I suppose Ace of Base. I'd say NFG, Sum 41, and Good Charlotte probably deserve more credit for the "explosion" than LTJ, Bad Religion, or Goldfinger.

[jwicklun]

The blink 182 ultimate craze began late 90s/early 00s. Green Day had such a profound influence on alternative rock, much more than blink 182. Despite what people say about Green Day's new style, in my opinion they are in the ranks of the Beatles, Rollingstones, the Doors, and led zepplin in rock history. Still love blink though.

PS
Yes, I know I'm going to get backlash for saying this

[Hull]

there biggest most popular albums came out 99- and beyond. how are they the most influential band of hte 90s?
because the album was THAT influential.

[Hull]

You are joking right? Ever heard of a little band called Nirvana?
of course I have. but they're not as influential.

[zachff]

I think Green Day was more influential that Blink, but in the overall scheme of things the Chili Peppers or Nirvana were much more influential

[Ari Christos]

of course I have. but they're not as influential.

Nirvana is far and beyond the most influential band of the 90's. Just because they didn't have a strong influence in pop-punk, doesn't take away their contribution to alternative rock music as a whole.

I'd have to go with Green Day on this one. And if there was an "Other" option, I'd say Weezer. The Blue Album came out in '94 as well and really blew up.

[Hull]

Nirvana is far and beyond the most influential band of the 90's. Just because they didn't have a strong influence in pop-punk, doesn't take away their contribution to alternative rock music as a whole.

I'd have to go with Green Day on this one. And if there was an "Other" option, I'd say Weezer. The Blue Album came out in '94 as well and really blew up.
I would go with weezer as well, but out of these, and even including nirvana I think, blink 182 is the most influential. I would say far greater bands have been influenced by nirvana, but more bands have been influenced by blink.

[Ari Christos]

I would go with weezer as well, but out of these, and even including nirvana I think, blink 182 is the most influential. I would say far greater bands have been influenced by nirvana, but more bands have been influenced by blink.

Fair enough, I think I'd agree on that. And I'm glad you agree on Weezer too. The Blue Album and Pinkerton, ftw!

[antron]

Jawbreaker????

[jtresk26]

Jawbreaker????
Dude, very good point. They didn't hit mainstream stuff as much as the bands listed, but they have influenced so many artists that are popular today. Awesome that someone put down Jawbreaker.

[qazx]

http://rizabek.bloguje.cz/

[antron]

Dude, very good point. They didn't hit mainstream stuff as much as the bands listed, but they have influenced so many artists that are popular today. Awesome that someone put down Jawbreaker.

they always get overlooked. i'm not saying that every band covers their songs but a lot do. FOB, The Ataris, Set Your Goals, Bayside, Bigwig, Name Taken, Riddlin' Kids, The Gamits, Nerf Herder, and Lagwagon to name a few.

[MyWorldEntire]

of course I have. but they're not as influential.

Nirvana transformed music. Blink-182 created a shit genre of music.

[jtresk26]

they always get overlooked. i'm not saying that every band covers their songs but a lot do. FOB, The Ataris, Set Your Goals, Bayside, Bigwig, Name Taken, Riddlin' Kids, The Gamits, Nerf Herder, and Lagwagon to name a few.
Yeah I was reading an Alternative Press mag with blink on the cover and they had this feature where they had artists write an essay about their favorite band on how they influenced them to where they got today and the guitarist from AFI listed Jawbreaker. I was so shocked because I thought AFI is more of goth rock/ goth punk band, in my opinion.

[ihatecayte]

Green Day. Without them blowing up in the early 90s, Blink never would have gotten signed to a major label and been given the chance to get as big as they are. Green Day's fame precedes Blink's by a few years, with their breakout and massive mainstream success coming in '94 with Dookie, and Blink not even getting any attention until around '97 when Dammit became a big hit. The Offspring and Rancid both preceded Blink, too. The Offspring charted the highest indie record sale with Smash clear back in '94, and Rancid became at least momentarily huge in '95.

Love Blink all you want, and I won't deny their influence, but no radio station, label, or MTV show would have given them a chance if Green Day, The Offspring, and Rancid hadn't brought pop punk to the masses and made it palatable to the mainstream first.

could not have said it better myself. kudos.

[flks511]

i'm a bit confused about this poll. Pop-punk explosion of the mid-90s? how in the hell is blink winning this poll...enema of the state didnt come out until 1999!...haha the decade was freakin' over. And I dont wanna hear any crap about Dude Ranch because everyone and their dog knows that they were still in obscure-land when that album came out.....


Also, which pop punk are we talking here? I mean i'd say Bad Religion, NOFX really helped to bring back the pop-punk into the sub-mainstream. These bands helped spark a plethora of pop punk bands that range from Goldfinger-Rancid-MXPX-Blink-NFG-Reel Big fish-mighty bosstones etc.

Or, are we talking the radio-POP PUNK explosion of 1999-2004 (NFG, Blink, Yellowcard, Homegrown, Allister, Good Charlotte, Sum 41)? Then we can start to talk about blink.
There is a list of bands. That is what I want you to choose from.

[Hull]

Nirvana transformed music. Blink-182 created a shit genre of music.
Nirvana is overrated. Yes, they are great, but they are far from legendary. I honestly think blink will be remembered longer.

[Theseventhson]

Nirvana is overrated. Yes, they are great, but they are far from legendary. I honestly think blink will be remembered longer.
Hell no. Nirvana already is legendary.

[Hull]

Hell no. Nirvana already is legendary.
you can't be legendary for one album with a couple hits...
nevermind is all they will be known for.

[Theseventhson]

you can't be legendary for one album with a couple hits...
nevermind is all they will be known for.
And In Utero, there's multiple hits from that record. They're still one of the most played bands on the radio and the frontman died 15 years ago, I'd say that they're legendary.

[Hull]

And In Utero, there's multiple hits from that record. They're still one of the most played bands on the radio and the frontman died 15 years ago, I'd say that they're legendary.
you can't judge legends by what they're known for, though.
true legends greatest songs are those that aren't played on the radio.

[Theseventhson]

you can't judge legends by what they're known for, though.
true legends greatest songs are those that aren't played on the radio.
Incorrect.

[Hull]

Incorrect.
completely correct.
that's why Nirvana isn't legendary, they have some great, catchy songs, but the rest of their albums are filler.
Legends need to be solid, and thorough.

[Theseventhson]

completely correct.
that's why Nirvana isn't legendary, they have some great, catchy songs, but the rest of their albums are filler.
Legends need to be solid, and thorough.
All three of those albums are golden throughout.

[Hull]

All three of those albums are golden throughout.
I honestly do not care for any of nevermind with exception to the obvious hits.
same with in utero. and Bleach is a failed attempt to be the pixies.

[domotime2]

because the album was THAT influential.
haha thats ridiculous.

[domotime2]

There is a list of bands. That is what I want you to choose from.
well thats not really fair...haha there were two different kinds of pop-punk explosions, and you gave a little of both.... id pick Rancid/NOFX if we're talking the warped tour/pop punk exposion of hte early 90s....id go with Blink if we're talking 00 punk explosion...aaaaaaa touche...pop punk explosion of the 90s as you say...then ill vote for NOFX.

[MyWorldEntire]

completely correct.
that's why Nirvana isn't legendary, they have some great, catchy songs, but the rest of their albums are filler.
Legends need to be solid, and thorough.

Blink 182 doesn't have one good album. Their music is forgettable immature pop-punk. Nirvana change the course of music forever.

[MyWorldEntire]

I honestly do not care for any of nevermind with exception to the obvious hits.
same with in utero. and Bleach is a failed attempt to be the pixies.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not incredibly influencial.

[Hull]

Blink 182 doesn't have one good album. Their music is forgettable immature pop-punk. Nirvana change the course of music forever.
Enema is fantastic.
sorry not all bands can be as boring as Nirvana.

[Hull]

Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not incredibly influencial.
...my point exactly

[MyWorldEntire]

...my point exactly

Blink 182 created a genre of music that has no credibility. No one will talk about pop-punk band 30 years from now. Nirvana has already cemented their status as legends.

[MyWorldEntire]

Enema is fantastic.
sorry not all bands can be as boring as Nirvana.

People use this argument all the time because they can't understand the greatness of a band. Just because it's not immediately accessible, doesn't mean it's not great.

[Hull]

People use this argument all the time because they can't understand the greatness of a band. Just because it's not immediately accessible, doesn't mean it's not great.
hahaha. what you're really saying is most people know that the band is boring, and negligent bastards like you refuse to see the truth.

[ManicanParty49]

their singles came out in 1999 and later....i can see why you'd think their singles dominated the 90s

haha fair enough. Well...my vote and post should only be considered for '99.

[MyWorldEntire]

hahaha. what you're really saying is most people know that the band is boring, and negligent bastards like you refuse to see the truth.

I'm not sure how you can listen to Nevermind and see it is a boring.

Likewise anyone who has a valuable opinion knows that Blink's music is immature, and not worth consideration among the most important acts from the 90's

[jtresk26]

Blink 182 created a genre of music that has no credibility. No one will talk about pop-punk band 30 years from now. Nirvana has already cemented their status as legends.
Wow. Someone is forgetting the bands that started pop-punk. Have you heard The Jam, Buzzcocks, Bad Religion, Social Distortion, The Descendents? They are other too. Check them out.

[jtresk26]

I'm not sure how you can listen to Nevermind and see it is a boring.

Likewise anyone who has a valuable opinion knows that Blink's music is immature, and not worth consideration among the most important acts from the 90's
Listen to their untitled album. You will definitely find more of maturity in every song.

[MyWorldEntire]

Wow. Someone is forgetting the bands that started pop-punk. Have you heard The Jam, Buzzcocks, Bad Religion, Social Distortion, The Descendents? They are other too. Check them out.

Those bands may have lead the way to pop punk, but they are hardly considered apart of that genre (with maybe the exception of The Descendents).

[phil19]

blink.

[Hull]

I'm not sure how you can listen to Nevermind and see it is a boring.

Likewise anyone who has a valuable opinion knows that Blink's music is immature, and not worth consideration among the most important acts from the 90's
just because they are immature is irrelevant. and we're talking about influentiality, and the bottom line is that I don't believe that any up-and-coming pop-rock bands are not influenced by blink 182.

and yes, nevermind is a boring album with exception to the 3-4 hits.

[Theseventhson]

just because they are immature is irrelevant. and we're talking about influentiality, and the bottom line is that I don't believe that any up-and-coming pop-rock bands are not influenced by blink 182.

and yes, nevermind is a boring album with exception to the 3-4 hits.
The hits are the most boring songs on the album, just saying.

[Hull]

The hits are the most boring songs on the album, just saying.
they are the only ones I actually enjoy.
we obviously just have a difference in opinions.
let it be.

[George-Michael]

Anyone except Goldfinger. Yuck

[jtresk26]

Those bands may have lead the way to pop punk, but they are hardly considered apart of that genre (with maybe the exception of The Descendents).
Well, I'm just letting you know that without those bands 30 years ago, pop-punk wouldn't have even started and we wouldn't be talking about this poll.

[MyWorldEntire]

just because they are immature is irrelevant. and we're talking about influentiality, and the bottom line is that I don't believe that any up-and-coming pop-rock bands are not influenced by blink 182.

and yes, nevermind is a boring album with exception to the 3-4 hits.

If you are going to use that logic, then T-Pain and Lil Wayne are far more influential than Blink 182 will ever be.

[jtresk26]

If you are going to use that logic, then T-Pain and Lil Wayne are far more influential than Blink 182 will ever be.
That has nothing to do with pop-punk. We are talking about pop-punk's influence, not rap's influence on artists.

[Hull]

That has nothing to do with pop-punk. We are talking about pop-punk's influence, not rap's influence on artists.
this.

[Hull]

If you are going to use that logic, then T-Pain and Lil Wayne are far more influential than Blink 182 will ever be.
to their respectable genres, yes.

[MyWorldEntire]

That has nothing to do with pop-punk. We are talking about pop-punk's influence, not rap's influence on artists.

this.


It was Hull that originally took us off the topic of pop-punk in the first place by saying that Blink was the most influential band of the 90's. I have simply been refuting that argument.

[jtresk26]

It was Hull that originally took us off the topic of pop-punk in the first place by saying that Blink was the most influential band of the 90's. I have simply been refuting that argument.
If you look at the question, it say most influential of the 90's in the top left corner.

[Theseventhson]

If you look at the question, it say most influential of the 90's in the top left corner.
But the title says pop-punk

[jtresk26]

But the title says pop-punk
Yeah I know, so you would direct that to he's comment of rap because that doesn't have to do with pop-punk.

[BulleTheory]

i think Green Day was more of an influence in the 90's then blink. blink is probably a bigger influence in the 2000's, but thats not what the question asks.

[BulleTheory]

i'm a bit confused about this poll. Pop-punk explosion of the mid-90s? how in the hell is blink winning this poll...enema of the state didnt come out until 1999!...haha the decade was freakin' over. And I dont wanna hear any crap about Dude Ranch because everyone and their dog knows that they were still in obscure-land when that album came out.....


Also, which pop punk are we talking here? I mean i'd say Bad Religion, NOFX really helped to bring back the pop-punk into the sub-mainstream. These bands helped spark a plethora of pop punk bands that range from Goldfinger-Rancid-MXPX-Blink-NFG-Reel Big fish-mighty bosstones etc.

Or, are we talking the radio-POP PUNK explosion of 1999-2004 (NFG, Blink, Yellowcard, Homegrown, Allister, Good Charlotte, Sum 41)? Then we can start to talk about blink.
thats because a lot of people on this site dont know what theyre talking about, especially when it comes to 90's music, or any music from any decade before then.

[BulleTheory]

Blink is without a doubt the most influential band of the 90s.
ANY upcoming pop-rock band envies was blink currently has.
youre 15...you were born in like 94, how would you know that blink was the most influential of the 90's? you were born when dookie by green day came out. blink didnt get really popular until the late, late 90's, early 2000's.

[jtresk26]

youre 15...you were born in like 94, how would you know that blink was the most influential of the 90's? you were born when dookie by green day came out. blink didnt get really popular until the late, late 90's, early 2000's.
So what if he is 15? He can easily go back and listen to the albums that were released before he was born. And why try to change his opinion if blink is more influential because chances are all the arguments you going to say aren't even going to change his mind.

[BulleTheory]

So what if he is 15? He can easily go back and listen to the albums that were released before he was born.
yes, but how does listening to an album determine how influential it was? listening to an album just gives his own opinion on how he likes it. Green Day was clearlyyy more influential then Blink DURING THE 90's, i dont even know how this is debatable. People really need to jump off the Blink bandwagon

[MyWorldEntire]

Yeah I know, so you would direct that to he's comment of rap because that doesn't have to do with pop-punk.

Hull originally took us off the topic of pop punk by saying Blink was the most influnecial band of the 90's, above bands like Nirvana. I was simply responding to that.

[jtresk26]

yes, but how does listening to an album determine how influential it was? listening to an album just gives his own opinion on how he likes it. Green Day was clearlyyy more influential then Blink DURING THE 90's, i dont even know how this is debatable. People really need to jump off the Blink bandwagon
How does listening to an abum determine how influential it was? Wow, you are a bonehead. I think by listening to an album that you haven't heard before, you can be all over a song that was on the album and if you play an instrument, you want to try to play that song.

[flks511]

I'm very disappointed at the amount of people in this poll who voted for Blink.

[BulleTheory]

How does listening to an abum determine how influential it was? Wow, you are a bonehead. I think by listening to an album that you haven't heard before, you can be all over a song that was on the album and if you play an instrument, you want to try to play that song.
to a point, yes. but it helps when you know something about music history and the bands that came before them and after them to really determine how "influential" an album is. its like knowing nothing about the beatles, and people saying that there albums are garbage...yet they have no idea how influential their albums were because they were the first to start the genre and break out. it takes more then just listening to an album, bonehead.

[Hull]

youre 15...you were born in like 94, how would you know that blink was the most influential of the 90's? you were born when dookie by green day came out. blink didnt get really popular until the late, late 90's, early 2000's.
I have still listened to the albums, Dookie is a great album. Enema is far greater.
Age is irrelevant when it comes to taste.

[jtresk26]

to a point, yes. but it helps when you know something about music history and the bands that came before them and after them to really determine how "influential" an album is. its like knowing nothing about the beatles, and people saying that there albums are garbage...yet they have no idea how influential their albums were because they were the first to start the genre and break out. it takes more then just listening to an album, bonehead.
Yeah, you can read that on the internet. It's not that hard to look at how an album's influence is. If you go to youtube, you see people doing covers of bands they like. If you go to wikipedia, it has a bunch of music-related topics and history of bands, which can be found on youtube as well and probably a bunch of other things too. Just because you are born halfway into a decade, doesn't mean you don't know the music before you were born. It's all a matter if you using your time and looking things up and seeing what influenced bands to become one themselves. And I know that it takes more than listening to an album, I gave a good reason at an influence of albums, you didn't. Great original comeback, too.

[BulleTheory]

Yeah, you can read that on the internet. It's not that hard to look at how an album's influence is. If you go to youtube, you see people doing covers of bands they like. If you go to wikipedia, it has a bunch of music-related topics and history of bands, which can be found on youtube as well and probably a bunch of other things too. Just because you are born halfway into a decade, doesn't mean you don't know the music before you were born. It's all a matter if you using your time and looking things up and seeing what influenced bands to become one themselves. And I know that it takes more than listening to an album, I gave a good reason at an influence of albums, you didn't. Great original comeback, too.
haha ok guy. the comeback was supposed to be a joke, who calls anyone a bonehead nowadays. i find namecalling on the internet to be very laughable.

[TreyForest]

u can look at this shit in 2 ways

Dookie by Green Day and Smash by the Offspring brought pop punk into the mainstream which thn brought attention to Rancid NOFX etc and they got big
however to me punk music would have never sounded like that if it werent for bad religion as they were doin the driving skate punk wit harmonies and every punk band of that era has sited bad religion as a main influence so im goin wit bad religion

people who are voting blink r stupid
like i love me some pre enema and untitled blink 182 but they did not revolutionize the genre

[jtresk26]

haha ok guy. the comeback was supposed to be a joke, who calls anyone a bonehead nowadays. i find namecalling on the internet to be very laughable.
Yet you do it? You are just a huge hypocrite. Why I bother talking to a person like yourself.

[rainman]

can't be brought down to just one, but I selected Green Day, followed by The Offspring and blink behind that... remember, blink didn't get mega-huge until 1999...

[PopPunkKid]

People on this site are so dumb.


Green Day preceeded blink.

[BulleTheory]

Yet you do it? You are just a huge hypocrite. Why I bother talking to a person like yourself.
obviously the joke went over your head..relax yourself

[BulleTheory]

People on this site are so dumb.


Green Day preceeded blink.
exactly

[jtresk26]

obviously the joke went over your head..relax yourself
Yeah you can make yourself think that.

[BulleTheory]

u can look at this shit in 2 ways

Dookie by Green Day and Smash by the Offspring brought pop punk into the mainstream which thn brought attention to Rancid NOFX etc and they got big
however to me punk music would have never sounded like that if it werent for bad religion as they were doin the driving skate punk wit harmonies and every punk band of that era has sited bad religion as a main influence so im goin wit bad religion

people who are voting blink r stupid
like i love me some pre enema and untitled blink 182 but they did not revolutionize the genre
if only more people realized this

[starkandarcadia]

Green Day was shitloads more influential than Blink was.

[VIVALAMATT]

It's definitely between Blink and Green Day. I went with Blink just because I'm so fucking over Green Day right now.

[Glassjawguy]

Green Day. Without them blowing up in the early 90s, Blink never would have gotten signed to a major label and been given the chance to get as big as they are. Green Day's fame precedes Blink's by a few years, with their breakout and massive mainstream success coming in '94 with Dookie, and Blink not even getting any attention until around '97 when Dammit became a big hit. The Offspring and Rancid both preceded Blink, too. The Offspring charted the highest indie record sale with Smash clear back in '94, and Rancid became at least momentarily huge in '95.

Love Blink all you want, and I won't deny their influence, but no radio station, label, or MTV show would have given them a chance if Green Day, The Offspring, and Rancid hadn't brought pop punk to the masses and made it palatable to the mainstream first.

This.

[Everiggs]

When I saw the Green Day vs. Blink thread, it got me thinking about this. The 90s was such a great decade for music, and around 95 was when pop punk really got big. Which band do you think was most influential during that era?

My personal opinion: Pop-punk lives and dies with Green Day. Everything the band has written is amazing, and Dookie and American Idiot are some of the best albums I've ever heard.

The Offspring is a close second for me. But post what you think and why. I'm interested to hear what everyone has to say.



I'd say Green Day if we're talking about the entire 90's. Blink didn't really get their biggest until the new millennium.

Also, I found it odd that you made this poll when you were barely alive in the decade. Just saying.

[seraph1214]

Green Day is the only answer to this poll.

[zaron5551]

There a three appropriate responses to this poll. Green Day, The Offspring & Rancid, I think that Green Day is the best choice, but that all three are appropitate. Blink came after those three and Bad Religion was never truly in the mainstream. LTJ & Goldfinger were more Ska at first both came around the same time as Blink.

[Gumbyjag]

just because they are immature is irrelevant. and we're talking aboutinfluentiality, and the bottom line is that I don't believe that any up-and-coming pop-rock bands are not influenced by blink 182.

and yes, nevermind is a boring album with exception to the 3-4 hits.

1. Influentiality is not a word. You mean influence.
2. Maturity of a band has a lot to do with influence. If a band acts a certain way, its predecessors are probably going to act that way as well. You can't disagree with how Blink's attitude shows up in thousands of bands today.
3. Not all up-and-coming pop-rock bands are influenced by Blink, and not Blink alone. As evidenced by this poll, the 90s had legions of pop-punk bands to seed from and to say that every pop-punk band today is influenced by Blink 182 is biased and not necessarily true because they were not the only band of that genre that existed at that time, and certainly not the first.

they are the only ones I actually enjoy.
we obviously just have a difference in opinions.
let it be.

the guy was not even talking shit. stop trying to sound cool.

I have still listened to the albums, Dookie is a great album. Enema is far greater.
Age is irrelevant when it comes to taste.

It's okay to like Enema more than Dookie but to say it is better is entirely wrong.

[eags2]

i hate fucking new greenday. 90s greenday is key even though im a bigger blink fan

[suppyguppy]

Dookie hands down had more influence in the 90s than any other band/album. Blink wasn't influential until the 2000s. And whoever is saying Blink has more influence than Nirvana is fucking high.

[American_Idiot1]

What a bunch of dumbasses! Without Green Day, Blink 182 wouldn't have formed. I swear to god, you losers piss me off when you say Blink 182 is better.

[Indoor Living]

Nirvana is far and beyond the most influential band of the 90's. Just because they didn't have a strong influence in pop-punk, doesn't take away their contribution to alternative rock music as a whole.

I'd have to go with Green Day on this one. And if there was an "Other" option, I'd say Weezer. The Blue Album came out in '94 as well and really blew up.


Sadly.

[Machu505]

The results of this poll confuse me deeply.