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Frank Giaramita
03/02/06, 02:44 PM
Victory Records have apologized to Island Def Jam regarding their recent comments about Ne-Yo. They also claimed the entire e-mail was a "bogus joke". Head to MTV.com (http://www.mtvu.com/news/articles/1525227/20060302/hawthorne_heights.jhtml?headlines=t rue) for more details.

Drew Beringer
03/02/06, 02:45 PM
I don't buy that.

unwritten
03/02/06, 02:46 PM
Like an apology was even necessary? come on. lol From one gay band to another. Like it even meant anything and anyone cared.

RandomHero1230
03/02/06, 02:51 PM
bullshit.

Pat Marquez
03/02/06, 02:53 PM
It takes a real man to apologize and admit they did something wrong.

Cerpin Taxt
03/02/06, 02:55 PM
It takes a real man to apologize and admit they did something wrong.

Um, right. That's why they claimed it was a "bogus joke" when it obviously wasn't. Takes a real man, huh...

vegasbabyvegas
03/02/06, 02:56 PM
bullshit

byebyebeautiful
03/02/06, 02:58 PM
Um, right. That's why they claimed it was a "bogus joke" when it obviously wasn't. Takes a real man, huh...

i think he was kidding.

Jason Tate
03/02/06, 02:58 PM
Man, we sure do cause shit. I like to believe that the tag line, "emo-punk message board" was refering to us.

Drew Beringer
03/02/06, 02:58 PM
The apologizing is good, I'm glad they at least did that. But calling this "promotion" a bogus joke is not gonna work here. They are just trying to save face, but it's too late for that.

Drew Beringer
03/02/06, 02:58 PM
Man, we sure do cause shit. I like to believe that the tag line, "emo-punk message board" was refering to us.

Fuck yes it was.

In Dolorosa
03/02/06, 02:58 PM
The thing that really bothered me about this was that they said HH came from nowhere, and they are now a big band, breaking into the mainstream. Where do you think Ne-Yo came from? Even though you may not like his music, you have to respect how he worked his way up. He must have worked his ass off to get signed to a major label, he certainly just didnt get lucky. He earned this just as much as HH did. That's what pisses me off. Anyone agree?

eatmeplz
03/02/06, 02:58 PM
Bogus joke?

Are you fucking kidding me?

Seriously, how stupid do they think people are?

There was nothing funny about that email. It was an in-depth explanation on how to hide Ne-Yos CDs and how it would fuck things up for him because the computer would show the CDs are still in stock and not re-order even though the CDs were hidden throughout the store.

The easiest way to clean up the gene pool would be to find every person on earth who thinks that explanation was true and summarily execute them. No one that stupid deserves to breathe.

a hybrid
03/02/06, 02:59 PM
right cause that entire email was laden with humorous anecdotes. what liars.

Drew Beringer
03/02/06, 03:02 PM
The thing that really bothered me about this was that they said HH came from nowhere, and they are now a big band, breaking into the mainstream. Where do you think Ne-Yo came from? Even though you may not like his music, you have to respect how he worked his way up. He must have worked his ass off to get signed to a major label, he certainly just didnt get lucky. He earned this just as much as HH did. That's what pisses me off. Anyone agree?

Yeah, I agree. It's definite bullshit to try to get people to hide someone's album, their art. It's classless. Hell, I almost bought Ne-Yo today just to spite this fuckin label.

In Dolorosa
03/02/06, 03:03 PM
Yeah, I agree. It's definite bullshit to try to get people to hide someone's album, their art. It's classless. Hell, I almost bought Ne-Yo today just to spite this fuckin label.

haha, "so sick" is a hella catchy song as well, im not gonna lie.

yutsmcgee
03/02/06, 03:04 PM
Victory Records is a joke. They're an embarassment to indie music.

ProjectMayhem33
03/02/06, 03:09 PM
Brummel and Jay Z should fight. Brummel would get his ass kicked

yutsmcgee
03/02/06, 03:10 PM
Brummel and Jay Z should fight. Brummel would get his ass kicked

Fuck, Jay Z should just let Beyonce fight him, she'd beat the living shit out of his pussy ass.

FeynmanWannabe
03/02/06, 03:22 PM
I call shenanigans.

zerock
03/02/06, 03:27 PM
i hope def jam sues victory

Drew Beringer
03/02/06, 03:29 PM
i hope def jam sues victory

Def Jam has assloads of money, they aren't going to sue Victory because Ne-Yo is still kicking HH's ass in first week sales. Remember Jay-Z has money that'll last him 3 lifetimes. ;)

musical monkey
03/02/06, 03:48 PM
Bullshit. If it hadn't caused any hoopla they wouldn't care. This reminds me of when Pat Robertson starts spouting ridiculous, stupid shit and then apologizes later on and says it was taken out of context or something.

G funk
03/02/06, 03:49 PM
big joke, my ass...
these are the sleazy, strong arm tacticts victory is famous for, but taken up to the next notch...

it became a joke when they got caught!!!
had they not been caught, there wouldn't have been a follow up "this was a joke" email sent to the street team.

sleazy

G funk
03/02/06, 03:51 PM
I call shenanigans.
i am going to pistol whip the next person that says the word shenanigans

Chemical Love
03/02/06, 04:02 PM
Victory Records have apologized to Island Def Jam regarding their recent comment's about Ne-Yo. They also claimed the entire e-mail was a "bogus joke". Head to MTV.com (http://www.mtvu.com/news/articles/1525227/20060302/hawthorne_heights.jhtml?headlines=t rue) for more details.
Fucking liars, they are just trying to cover their ass. Fuck Victory.

a speedo model
03/02/06, 04:06 PM
fuck victory.

mr fun
03/02/06, 04:13 PM
Brummel= Bush

tallperson
03/02/06, 04:14 PM
The day Victory admits it made a mistake will be a great day.

boekebong
03/02/06, 04:17 PM
I like the part where he says "an e-mail got sent and somehow it leaked onto the internet." Yeah, it would be pretty hard to predict that might happen.

thebestkylever
03/02/06, 04:19 PM
i hope brummel will stir up another shit storm like this for the new forecast record.

kshtoinks12
03/02/06, 04:39 PM
this is almost as rich as the post

capnshindig
03/02/06, 04:41 PM
Victory Records should apologize for Hawthorne Heights being allowed to make music, I think we all know that the band itself is the real bogus joke here.

DeathCabForCoon
03/02/06, 04:47 PM
Their whole existence is a bogus joke

littlejohn
03/02/06, 04:54 PM
shenanigains

hollywoodending
03/02/06, 05:01 PM
this is lame. Their music should be strong enough to sell itself without 'hiding copies of the ne-yo cd"


it's clear that victory is just in it for the profit. but the funny thing is that they are supposed to be all "anti-profit" like that rant TB wrote on the back of that warped tour victory booklet.

satanisanerd
03/02/06, 05:07 PM
Victory are publicity whores.

jnkbondtrader
03/02/06, 06:14 PM
way to try to save face. that email was soooo funny you could clearly tell it was sarcasm when they went into detail about how to hide the cds. tony brummel is an asshole.

CHRISRIPPEDOUT
03/02/06, 06:25 PM
this little stunt has made victory and HH look so stupid in the main stream music. Its what sets the major and independent worlds apart. A major woukd never pull a stunt like that, jokingly or otherwise. Look at how much negative press this has gotten them. It won't dampen record sales but still. What a bunch of douches. and poor HH had NO say in it. that's what really sucks. even though I don't like them.

Waltz Whitman
03/02/06, 07:03 PM
i laid down and mtv was on. i was too lazy to turn off the tv until i heard that stupid hawthorne heights commercial a billion fucking times and then i not only turned off my tv i nearly broke so i didnt have to hear it ever again. this band, and victory, can suck my nuts.

i agree with whoever said that victory should apologize for letting HH make music.

PunkNews.Org
03/02/06, 07:18 PM
hey tony brummel i know you're gonna read this thread you stupid fuck so listen up

bag of douche > you

that's right motherfucker, a retarded monkey could sign better bands than you

fuck you and fuck your shitty label

enj0i29
03/02/06, 07:43 PM
Brummel= Bush

HAH burn! I cannot believe that he could stoop to moving another artists cds around. I say we all just take all victory cds off shelves, then say to victory, "just joking!"

T!ATD
03/02/06, 07:50 PM
hey tony brummel i know you're gonna read this thread you stupid fuck so listen up

bag of douche > you

that's right motherfucker, a retarded monkey could sign better bands than you

fuck you and fuck your shitty label

Fuck dude a rodent could sign better bands than he does. Who in there right mind would sign Aiden I bet the members of Aiden would not even sign themselves if they ran a record label.

T!ATD
03/02/06, 07:52 PM
HAH burn! I cannot believe that he could stoop to moving another artists cds around. I say we all just take all victory cds off shelves, then say to victory, "just joking!"
and then add a not really because most of your labels "music" if you can call it that should be moved not only from the shelves but to a landfill.

Ryan Imhof
03/02/06, 09:05 PM
haha now we all know that if HH was beating ne yo or whoever this is an email would go out saying something like this:

Happy Victory Day! Literally!

WE WON against ne-yo. WE WON against major labels. WE WON against iTunes. WE WON against everything. WE ARE VICTORY. WE WON because of YOU. ROCK!

LPMagic
03/02/06, 09:07 PM
haha now we all know that if HH was beating ne yo or whoever this is an email would go out saying something like this:

Happy Victory Day! Literally!

WE WON against ne-yo. WE WON against major labels. WE WON against iTunes. WE WON against everything. WE ARE VICTORY. WE WON because of YOU. ROCK!
Hahaha <3

- Jeff

typetsymis
03/02/06, 09:11 PM
tony brummel is a calculating, greedy, morally vacuous asshole who sold every value he ever had to buy "who let the dogs out".

it sucks that HH, even though i'm not a big fan, had nothing to do with the email, or the insane myspace bulletin that all the victory bands sent and yet find themselves in the middle of all this.

i feel bad for any band that is stuck on this label. they are getting fucked in the ass by victory every time they turn around, and there's nothing they can do about it.

do not listen to a single thing that tony brummel or victory records says about being anti-profit. the only people in that organization that aren't making a profit are the bands that are busting their asses and yet still aren't making any money or getting anywhere. any money to be had is snatched up by tony and used to help maintain that glorious shine on his oddly shaped melon of a fucking skull.

bands on victory: poor bastards. whether or not you like them, you know their lives have to suck.
victory records and tony brummel: the worst thing that ever happend to music after 1994

1000shadesofred
03/02/06, 09:14 PM
Victory just pussed out cause they realized they were messing with number 1) a record label more powerful than them.. and number 2) they are black

elvis
03/03/06, 12:38 AM
this story makes me want to project even more vomit when i hear hawthorne heights

RentfordNoseAll
03/03/06, 12:40 AM
i used to like victory

emptyvictory
03/03/06, 03:43 AM
Dear HH,
Do you feel this type of attention wasn't deliberate, Brummel is famous for stunts like this. I would hope you would come to your own defense and denounce this type of "advertising" on Victory's part . After all it is about your music isn't it (cuz Brummel seems to think its all about the sale)
We need to hear from you!!

bcr182
03/03/06, 04:10 AM
fuck HH (lamest "emo-punk" band ever?), Victory (lamest hardcore label to turn to shit?), and Ne-yo (lamest rapper name ever?)

if people had good taste in music, no wait, ANY taste in music... no one would care about this

One Aware
03/03/06, 07:55 AM
victory and HH are the joke. calling this band mediocre would be a compliment.