For The Game Winning Shot...

[Caleb Cattivera]

who would you choose?

id pick iverson or melo.

[weezer182]

out of the two you picked id take iverson. not only is he a better shooter but he is more experienced. if it was anyone in the nba id definitely take nash no question

[Caleb Cattivera]

out of the two you picked id take iverson. not only is he a better shooter but he is more experienced. if it was anyone in the nba id definitely take nash no question

nash is not clutch. in the last three seasons he's one for twelve in game winning opportunities.

[itsjdiggity]

you'd take AI and Melo over Pierce or Mamba?

[weezer182]

nash is not clutch. in the last three seasons he's one for twelve in game winning opportunities. where did you get those stats? id still trust him taking the last shot. the ball has to be in his hands for the final possesion whether that means he drives and dishes or takes the last shot. his shot is great and i think if he got more opportunities his numbers would improve a lot. another great choice would be kobe. id take kobe over iverson

[Caleb Cattivera]

you'd take AI and Melo over Pierce or Mamba?

yep. name a player in the last few years to make more game winning shots than those two.

[mat1419]

iverson can make his own shot as well as anybody in league history. i take him all day. kobe # 2 because he's turning slightly psycho trying to prove himself...and i kind of like that.

[fromwithin]

darko.

[ides of march]

....redick

[Caleb Cattivera]

where did you get those stats? id still trust him taking the last shot. the ball has to be in his hands for the final possesion whether that means he drives and dishes or takes the last shot. his shot is great and i think if he got more opportunities his numbers would improve a lot. another great choice would be kobe. id take kobe over iverson

i would like to have nash passing the ball...but not taking the shot. as for kobe, he's hit six game winners ove the last few years...but that's in 25 attempts. not too clutch.

[weezer182]

i would like to have nash passing the ball...but not taking the shot. as for kobe, he's hit six game winners ove the last few years...but that's in 25 attempts. not too clutch.in nash's credit he has been pretty clutch in the 4th quarter. it might not be the last shot but he has come up with some big 3's when they have needed it. kobe's percentage might not be as great but he is very clutch too and has more experience then carmelo does as well

[Caleb Cattivera]

in nash's credit he has been pretty clutch in the 4th quarter. it might not be the last shot but he has come up with some big 3's when they have needed it. kobe's percentage might not be as great but he is very clutch too and has more experience then carmelo does as well

im not saying fourth quarter...im saying last shot. the last shot of the game. the final 24 seconds.

[weezer182]

im not saying fourth quarter...im saying last shot. the last shot of the game. the final 24 seconds.i know what you are saying and the reason why i would take nash or kobe is because they seem to be clutch in the 4th quarter so why not let them take the last shot. i wouldnt go as much on stats in my opinion. if you are going to go by stats i would think robert horry would be up there. he seems to get the job done when it counts

[Scott Weber]

I wouldn't take Melo, period. Dude has no spine. I'd take AI...the guy has no conscience.

[Caleb Cattivera]

I wouldn't take Melo, period. Dude has no spine. I'd take AI...the guy has no conscience.

spine or not he leads the nba in game winning shots the last few years. also the best percentage.

[itsjdiggity]

my list has Mamba, Truth, Mini Me, and Flash

[wessa]

nash is not clutch. in the last three seasons he's one for twelve in game winning opportunities.


i would say that i would want the ball in nash's hands coming up court, if we are talking about current players i would probably take kobe or dirk, but if we could take any current player from college and pros, i would take morrison

[SePaMc]

i'd take vince carter for a game winning dunk...

wait.

[justinevans]

Jesus Shuttlesworth

then AI, Chauncey, Pierce, Kobe, D-Wade

[Caleb Cattivera]

Jesus Shuttlesworth

then AI, Chauncey, Pierce, Kobe, D-Wade

billups is 4-18 in game winning shots

kobe 6-25

pierce 6-17

wade - 5-15

AI - 8-18

[underoathfob55]

id take rip because he just hit one against seattle.yesssssir

[itsjdiggity]

Jesus Shuttlesworth

then AI, Chauncey, Pierce, Kobe, D-Wade

damn straight ***

[itsjdiggity]

id take rip because he just hit one against seattle.yesssssir

eat me

i fucking hate that 24 sec violation call

[somethingyellow]

kobe, nash or AI

[Caleb Cattivera]

kobe, nash or AI

once again, nash is god awful when taking the last shot. id rather have mark madsen taking it than nash.

[somethingyellow]

once again, nash is god awful when taking the last shot. id rather have mark madsen taking it than nash.well i hope you like losing, ive seen him hit big last second shots

[Caleb Cattivera]

well i hope you like losing, ive seen him hit big last second shots

think of it this way. nash has taken 12 game winning shots...missed 11 of them. thats eleven games they've lost, when the balls in nash's hands at the last second. not so good.

nash is not clutch.

[somethingyellow]

think of it this way. nash has taken 12 game winning shots...missed 11 of them. thats eleven games they've lost, when the balls in nash's hands at the last second. not so good.

nash is not clutch.give me the link to this stat. Being clutch is more then just last second shots too. If you still think that then you must not have had watched the mavs suns series last year in the playoffs.

[somethingyellow]

here caleb ill refresh your memory of what happened in game 5 last year IN THE PLAYOFFS

Nash hit a 3-pointer to give the Suns a 106-105 lead with one minute and 11 seconds left in regulation. He made a layup to cut Dallas’ lead to one point with 14.2 seconds left.
Then, with the Mavericks up by three and American Airlines center in a frenzy, he calmly hit the 3-point shot with 5.7 seconds left that sent the game into overtime.
And they won that game


Please tell me he isnt clutch still, id love to see your reasoning now. Please dont give me your stat again. That was in the playoffs when it matters THE MOST

[Caleb Cattivera]

here caleb ill refresh your memory of what happened in game 5 last year IN THE PLAYOFFS

Nash hit a 3-pointer to give the Suns a 106-105 lead with one minute and 11 seconds left in regulation. He made a layup to cut Dallas’ lead to one point with 14.2 seconds left.
Then, with the Mavericks up by three and American Airlines center in a frenzy, he calmly hit the 3-point shot with 5.7 seconds left that sent the game into overtime.
And they won that game


Please tell me he isnt clutch still, id love to see your reasoning now. Please dont give me your stat again. That was in the playoffs when it matters THE MOST

that's his one of twelve actually.

that's ONE game. one freaking game. you know i like nash. but he's not clutch.

http://www.82games.com/random12.htm

[mikeford]

bird 33

fuck all yall

[Caleb Cattivera]

bird 33

fuck all yall

current players.

[somethingyellow]

that's his one of twelve actually.

that's ONE game. one freaking game. you know i like nash. but he's not clutch.

http://www.82games.com/random12.htmwell to me there is a lot more to being clutch then just last second shots. When the game is on the line i want the ball in nash's hands. Why not have derek fisher take them then

[Caleb Cattivera]

well to me there is a lot more to being clutch then just last second shots. When the game is on the line i want the ball in nash's hands. Why not have derek fisher take them then

and nash would probably fail like the other 11 times. its going to take more than one time to convince me someones clutch. playoffs or not.

[mikeford]

fuck all of you im taking will smith

i mean robert horry

[weezer182]

those stats can be very misleading though. it doesnt say if someone has a wide open shot or if someone has to create their own shot while being doubled team. its hard to go off just that

[somethingyellow]

and nash would probably fail like the other 11 times. its going to take more than one time to convince me someones clutch. playoffs or not.still, being clutch is how you play in playoffs in my opinion as well which i think nash showed last year. The biggest games of the season and he shows up. Those stats are stll misleading

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

its all about clutchmelo anthony

[Caleb Cattivera]

still, being clutch is how you play in playoffs in my opinion as well which i think nash showed last year. The biggest games of the season and he shows up. Those stats are stll misleading

his biggest games of the seaosn shoulda been against the spurs. and they waxed the suns ass. THOSE were the biggest games of the season and he didnt show up like he did the series before. proving once again he's not clutch.

[Caleb Cattivera]

its all about clutchmelo anthony

THANK YOU!

[somethingyellow]

his biggest games of the seaosn shoulda been against the spurs. and they waxed the suns ass. THOSE were the biggest games of the season and he didnt show up like he did the series before. proving once again he's not clutch.well at the time they were playing the mavs, those were their biggest games . Every game in the playoffs is big. And also that game wasnt the game that your stats count either since they only counted being down by 2 and they were down 3 at the time. Once again those stats are still misleading

[Caleb Cattivera]

well at the time they were playing the mavs, those were their biggest games . Every game in the playoffs is big. And also that game wasnt the game that your stats count either since they only counted being down by 2 and they were down 3 at the time. Once again those stats are still misleading

once again you are ignoring the fact that nash did NOT show up against the spurs. playing the mavs was NOT the biggest.

[mikeford]

BIG SHOT BOB HORRY

fdgshkjhfkdyghn

[weezer182]

BIG SHOT BOB HORRY

fdgshkjhfkdyghni was so mad when he hit that shot against the kings. that was probably the best playoff series i have ever seen though

[somethingyellow]

once again you are ignoring the fact that nash did NOT show up against the spurs. playing the mavs was NOT the biggest.im still saying at the time it was their biggest. Its not like they could predict the future. At that moment it was their biggest games and he showed up HUGE. I dont have the stats for the spurs series but obviously he didnt play as well and they did lose. , i wouldnt go that far to still say nash isnt clutch. Their whole team besides stoudemire struggled.
And if you really do think carmelo is a the most clutch player or one of them lets just look how he performs in the playoffs when it matters.
Averages 5 less points, 16% three point shooter compared to 28% career, 38% field goal shooter. To me being clutch in regular season doesnt mean shit if you cant do it in the playoffs

[bigmike]

i think i'd take AI.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Iverson or Wade.

[The Don]

BIG SHOT BOB HORRY

fdgshkjhfkdyghn
Hands down, the most clutch shooter since MJ. Reggie Miller was up there, but his big shots never won championships like Horry.

I can't believe it took so long for someone to say Horry. It's funny that everyone says Iverson because until he hit that half-court prayer in the Olympics last year, he had never hit a game winner in his life. In fact, in Philly, giving the ball to him in the clutch used to be a huge joke cuz he would always dribble it off his foot and rarely even got a shot off.

That has changed in the past year though.

[Spicoli hey bud]

Why Iverson is probably the best answer.

He is easily top 3 in being able to create and convert on a game ending shot, but he is also the very best at getting to the line in these situations as well. Iverson is also automatic from the line in these situations.

Factor out the getting to the line part, I'd probably let Wade take my team's last shot anyday. He can create and hit a shot like no other.

So yea, either Iverson or Wade.

[Chriz2z]

darko.
He can't take them for us anymore.

[Caleb Cattivera]

Hands down, the most clutch shooter since MJ. Reggie Miller was up there, but his big shots never won championships like Horry.

I can't believe it took so long for someone to say Horry. It's funny that everyone says Iverson because until he hit that half-court prayer in the Olympics last year, he had never hit a game winner in his life. In fact, in Philly, giving the ball to him in the clutch used to be a huge joke cuz he would always dribble it off his foot and rarely even got a shot off.

That has changed in the past year though.

thats why over the last 3 years he's hit 8 game winners right?

[mikeford]

if paul pierce could fucking hit free throws, id pick him cuz he is very good at driving and getting fouled... but hes been so shitty shooting free throws this season.

[Spicoli hey bud]

if paul pierce could fucking hit free throws, id pick him cuz he is very good at driving and getting fouled... but hes been so shitty shooting free throws this season.
after walker left he really became great at creating high percentage shots for himself. And he's always been decent from the line, but never seems to hit them when the game's on the line, although his playoff numbers don't reflect that much.

[mikeford]

pierce has been SHITTY this season compared to his career average, and yes, he has CHRONIC problems with late game meaningful free throws... all stems back to him choking on 2 FT's in the ECF vs the Nets a few years back.

[sweethypocrisy]

according to that site carmelo anthony is pretty clutch 8 for 14

[wessa]

that's his one of twelve actually.

that's ONE game. one freaking game. you know i like nash. but he's not clutch.

http://www.82games.com/random12.htm

yeah, but doing that much makes up for a lot of the other 12, plus a lot of the other stats you gave, they are probably not too far off from the percentage those guys usually shoot from the field

[wessa]

Hands down, the most clutch shooter since MJ. Reggie Miller was up there, but his big shots never won championships like Horry.

I can't believe it took so long for someone to say Horry. It's funny that everyone says Iverson because until he hit that half-court prayer in the Olympics last year, he had never hit a game winner in his life. In fact, in Philly, giving the ball to him in the clutch used to be a huge joke cuz he would always dribble it off his foot and rarely even got a shot off.

That has changed in the past year though.

miller had guys all over him and would hit huge shots, horry's shots were all from broken plays, miller is the better shooter, and horry can never create for himself, reggie should be taking the shot

[Criesofthepast7]

i would pick iverson hands down.

[The Don]

thats why over the last 3 years he's hit 8 game winners right?
There's now way that stat is correct. I live in Philly and either watch or read about every single game, so unless the Sixers are playing secret underground games that I don't know about, that's bs.

[Caleb Cattivera]

There's now way that stat is correct. I live in Philly and either watch or read about every single game, so unless the Sixers are playing secret underground games that I don't know about, that's bs.

haha ok don. a game winning shot is one that comes in the final 24 seconds of a game, and he's hit 8 of them. you must not watch closely. dont come in here when you have no knowledge of basketball.

[Talib Scottie]

Melo or Kobe.

[The Don]

miller had guys all over him and would hit huge shots, horry's shots were all from broken plays, miller is the better shooter, and horry can never create for himself, reggie should be taking the shot
Whether he can create his own shot or hit the 3 off a broken play, I could care less. If it goes in, it goes in. Horry has hit more clutch playoff shots in the past five years than anybody else in the league.

I wish Miller's teams could have gotten him to the finals a few more times during his prime, because my opinion would probably be different then.

[DevastatingDave]

if you can honestly look in the eye and tell me you wold rather have carmelo anthony take a last second championship winning shot over kobe because of some useless stat you are out of ure mind.

[Caleb Cattivera]

if you can honestly look in the eye and tell me you wold rather have carmelo anthony take a last second championship winning shot over kobe because of some useless stat you are out of ure mind.

who the fuck are you and why did you bring back this thread. you must have been bored dave.

also. learn to spell retard.

[ActorInThisPlay]

miller had guys all over him and would hit huge shots, horry's shots were all from broken plays, miller is the better shooter, and horry can never create for himself, reggie should be taking the shot
Reggie had like 11 points in 6 seconds or something like that...ridiculous. I would want Reggie taking my last second shot over anyone else, but since he is not playing I would probably take Iverson.

[DevastatingDave]

haha yah i was bored. But you still got the "gist" of my question...bringing up spelling or grammer on a message board is such a lame textbook argument. Who the fuck cares about spelling. its a fucking message board. The bottom line is asuming I'm a retard because i dont care to proof-read my comments makes you that much more knowledeable about sports doesnt it.

[Scott Weber]

haha yah i was bored. But you still got the "gist" of my question...bringing up spelling or grammer on a message board is such a lame textbook argument. Who the fuck cares about spelling. its a fucking message board. The bottom line is asuming I'm a retard because i dont care to proof-read my comments makes you that much more knowledeable about sports doesnt it.
Not proofreading isn't the cause of typing "ure."

[mikeford]

Reggie had like 11 points in 6 seconds or something like that...ridiculous. I would want Reggie taking my last second shot over anyone else, but since he is not playing I would probably take Iverson.

yeah but he also pushed a dude over to steal an inbound for that.


On May 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_7), 1995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995), Miller scored eight points in the last 16.4 seconds of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference semifinals against the Knicks, leading the Pacers to a stunning 107-105 victory. With the Pacers trailing by six points, Miller made a three-point shot, stole the inbounds pass, retreated to the three-point arc and tied the game with a second three-pointer. On the ensuing possession, Knicks guard John Starks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Starks_%28basketball_player%29 ) was fouled by Pacer Derrick McKey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_McKey) but missed two free throws; Miller rebounded the second miss and was fouled. Miller made both free throws, and the Pacers' defense denied the Knicks' last chance for the win.

[ActorInThisPlay]

yeah but he also pushed a dude over to steal an inbound for that.


On May 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_7), 1995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995), Miller scored eight points in the last 16.4 seconds of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference semifinals against the Knicks, leading the Pacers to a stunning 107-105 victory. With the Pacers trailing by six points, Miller made a three-point shot, stole the inbounds pass, retreated to the three-point arc and tied the game with a second three-pointer. On the ensuing possession, Knicks guard John Starks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Starks_%28basketball_player%29 ) was fouled by Pacer Derrick McKey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_McKey) but missed two free throws; Miller rebounded the second miss and was fouled. Miller made both free throws, and the Pacers' defense denied the Knicks' last chance for the win.
it was amazing still...

[Scott Weber]

yeah but he also pushed a dude over to steal an inbound for that.


On May 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_7), 1995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995), Miller scored eight points in the last 16.4 seconds of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference semifinals against the Knicks, leading the Pacers to a stunning 107-105 victory. With the Pacers trailing by six points, Miller made a three-point shot, stole the inbounds pass, retreated to the three-point arc and tied the game with a second three-pointer. On the ensuing possession, Knicks guard John Starks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Starks_%28basketball_player%29 ) was fouled by Pacer Derrick McKey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_McKey) but missed two free throws; Miller rebounded the second miss and was fouled. Miller made both free throws, and the Pacers' defense denied the Knicks' last chance for the win.
That is one of the reasons i love Reggie so much.

[mikeford]

because he pushed john starks over and didnt get a foul called cuz he was in the referees back pocket?

[FondestMemory]

reggie miller was one of the few positives i got out of growing up in indiana.

that dude's awesome.

[still_life]

yeah but he also pushed a dude over to steal an inbound for that.


On May 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_7), 1995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995), Miller scored eight points in the last 16.4 seconds of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference semifinals against the Knicks, leading the Pacers to a stunning 107-105 victory. With the Pacers trailing by six points, Miller made a three-point shot, stole the inbounds pass, retreated to the three-point arc and tied the game with a second three-pointer. On the ensuing possession, Knicks guard John Starks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Starks_%28basketball_player%29 ) was fouled by Pacer Derrick McKey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_McKey) but missed two free throws; Miller rebounded the second miss and was fouled. Miller made both free throws, and the Pacers' defense denied the Knicks' last chance for the win.

Hmm, I always thought it was 8 points in 8 seconds. Still a great individual effort.

I think the one McGrady did against the Spurs a year or two ago was more impressive though. He had like 13 points in 35 seconds, and they were pretty crazy 3's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClEt8hjlpjg