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mikeford
03/04/06, 10:44 AM
dude gave up 3 runs to the PIRATES in 1.2 innings just now. yeah its spring training, but what the fuck.

dont draft this dude in fantasy. he sucks. thank god hes starting the season in the pen.
fire on my lips
03/04/06, 10:47 AM
dude gave up 3 runs to the PIRATES in 1.2 innings just now. yeah its spring training, but what the fuck.

dont draft this dude in fantasy. he sucks. thank god hes starting the season in the pen.
i miss bk pitching for the red sox. always fun to watch him blow leads to the yankees.
mikeford
03/04/06, 10:51 AM
i miss bk pitching for the red sox. always fun to watch him blow leads to the yankees.

boo. b.y. kim is cancer in cleats. fuck that guy.
Vincewithouthee
03/04/06, 10:52 AM
Don't hate on the Pirates man. They have the potential to be good. Plus, Jason Bay is the shit.

But of course, the Pirates will probably trade away all their good young talent.
mikeford
03/04/06, 10:54 AM
Don't hate on the Pirates man. They have the potential to be good. Plus, Jason Bay is the shit.

But of course, the Pirates will probably trade away all their good young talent.

jason bay is great. i appreciated his contributions to my 2nd place fantasy team last season. never the less, they arent exactly a powerhouse.
fire on my lips
03/04/06, 10:54 AM
boo. b.y. kim is cancer in cleats. fuck that guy.
well you should obviously feel that way being a red sox fan. it would be like a duke fan wanting danny green to have the ball for the last possession against carolina.
walshknilb281
03/04/06, 11:00 AM
Bronson Arroyos the man and he rocks hard
Vincewithouthee
03/04/06, 11:01 AM
jason bay is great. i appreciated his contributions to my 2nd place fantasy team last season. never the less, they arent exactly a powerhouse.

Yeah I know. The Pirates have a young pitching staff that can be really good. The hitting's sometimes there. Pirates always have good field play.

The best I can see the Pirates doing this year is FINALLY getting over .500. (Thats so sad)
mikeford
03/04/06, 11:07 AM
Yeah I know. The Pirates have a young pitching staff that can be really good. The hitting's sometimes there. Pirates always have good field play.

The best I can see the Pirates doing this year is FINALLY getting over .500. (Thats so sad)

not last year, 15th in the NL.

oof.

zach duke is the fuckin man though
histrionics22
03/04/06, 11:13 AM
not last year, 15th in the NL.

oof.

zach duke is the fuckin man though

Wilson and Castillo up the middle are 2nd to none. Huge upgrade at 3rd with Randa. Casey is adequate at 1st. Duffy will be great defensively in center and Bay is Bay in left. I hate the addition of Burnitz.

I remember seeing Arroyo pitch with the Pirates when he 1st came up. He gave up 9 runs in the 1st to the Mets. And the immature idiot had the audacity to wear number 69 as a professional athelete. I would have kicked him off the team then.
Vincewithouthee
03/04/06, 11:17 AM
not last year, 15th in the NL.

oof.

zach duke is the fuckin man though

Eh True. Like the guy above me said, they're going to improve.

I have to have wishful thinking for the Pirates though. They're my favorite team, and you don't know how bad losing all the time is. Haha.
mikeford
03/04/06, 11:28 AM
im not disagreeing with you, just sayin that last year they were awful on defense too.
rcrook
03/04/06, 11:45 AM
bronson arroyo has a world series ring...can any of you say that you have one?
mikeford
03/04/06, 11:48 AM
bronson arroyo has a world series ring...can any of you say that you have one?

wow what a compelling argument. thanks for contributing to the discussion.
FondestMemory
03/04/06, 11:49 AM
he may blow, but at least he makes beautiful music.
rcrook
03/04/06, 11:50 AM
wow what a compelling argument. thanks for contributing to the discussion.

you can talk as much shit as you want...but he can flash that ring and his fat paycheck and that will shut you up
fire on my lips
03/04/06, 11:51 AM
bronson arroyo has a world series ring...can any of you say that you have one?
well he was on the best team that year. graeme lloyd and homer bush have one too, but that doesn't mean that they didn't/don't suck.
is homer bush still in the majors?
mikeford
03/04/06, 11:52 AM
he may blow, but at least he makes beautiful music.

hmm, odd. what album did YOU hear?
fire on my lips
03/04/06, 11:53 AM
hmm, odd. what album did YOU hear?
i find his songs so original . . .
LeftWideOpen
03/04/06, 11:55 AM
you can talk as much shit as you want...but he can flash that ring and his fat paycheck and that will shut you up

go away.

why dicuss sports at all i guess if we arent professional atheletes?? is that the criteria to say someone sucks?
mikeford
03/04/06, 12:00 PM
you can talk as much shit as you want...but he can flash that ring and his fat paycheck and that will shut you up

uh. no it wont. im a fan. you play bad, i talk shit. thats how it goes. i dont know if youre new to this "sports" thing, but thats generally how things work.
thejetstolehome
03/04/06, 12:03 PM
well he was on the best team that year. graeme lloyd and homer bush have one too, but that doesn't mean that they didn't/don't suck.
is homer bush still in the majors?

i think he is...i'm not sure where but i'm pretty sure he is..oh and for the record, arroyo does suck
FondestMemory
03/04/06, 12:18 PM
hmm, odd. what album did YOU hear?

i actually haven't heard it. i just see it at work all the time.

but i have heard coco crisp rap. they should do a duet.
fire on my lips
03/04/06, 12:24 PM
i actually haven't heard it. i just see it at work all the time.

but i have heard coco crisp rap. they should do a duet.
wow, boston is the musical joke of the AL East. Bernie is rediculous at guitar, before somebody pulls that one out.
mikeford
03/04/06, 12:26 PM
R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S

spelling 101
fire on my lips
03/04/06, 12:28 PM
R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S

spelling 101
hahhaha, i'm a mess
NetNerdsRevenge
03/04/06, 12:50 PM
It was spring training. Its made for pitchers to build up stamina and get ready for the season. It was his first start. Going off your analysis, Papelbon must suck too.
justinevans
03/04/06, 01:27 PM
dude gave up 3 runs to the PIRATES in 1.2 innings just now. yeah its spring training, but what the fuck.

dont draft this dude in fantasy. he sucks. thank god hes starting the season in the pen.

you want yankee-red sox spring traning tickets.
Doug
03/04/06, 04:06 PM
whatever, bronson has up and down games and you should know that better than anyone else, his era will always average out to somewhere around 4.3 and he'll always have about 12 wins. as a 5th starter, i have no problem with that.
mikeford
03/04/06, 04:11 PM
yeah but he aint starting anymore. unless we're rocking a 7 man rotation this season.
LeftWideOpen
03/04/06, 04:13 PM
yeah but he aint starting anymore. unless we're rocking a 7 man rotation this season.

Unless they change plans and put Papelbon in the rotation right away, he'll be the 5th guy. Wells or Clement won't be here by opening day.
Yankees' #1 Fan
03/04/06, 05:53 PM
you want to talk about sucking? matt clement gave up a leadoff homerun to northastern university last night.
mikeford
03/04/06, 06:26 PM
Unless they change plans and put Papelbon in the rotation right away, he'll be the 5th guy. Wells or Clement won't be here by opening day.

okay, but that hasnt happened yet. and its looking less and less likely that we're gonna be able to move wells fat ass.
LeftWideOpen
03/04/06, 06:29 PM
okay, but that hasnt happened yet. and its looking less and less likely that we're gonna be able to move wells fat ass.

either way, i think he's valuable. he'd be one of the best long relievers in the game if that ends up being his role.
Scott Weber
03/04/06, 07:02 PM
dude gave up 3 runs to the PIRATES in 1.2 innings just now. yeah its spring training, but what the fuck.

dont draft this dude in fantasy. he sucks. thank god hes starting the season in the pen.
that is why this doesn't matter.
NetNerdsRevenge
03/05/06, 12:36 PM
Unless they change plans and put Papelbon in the rotation right away, he'll be the 5th guy. Wells or Clement won't be here by opening day.
I'm starting to think that they keep both of them around and wait till the trade deadline to move one (or both). That way they can see where they need the most help and use their leverage to get it.
mikeford
03/05/06, 12:38 PM
this dude still sucks. and needs a haircut. and needs to put the goddamn guitar down.
NetNerdsRevenge
03/05/06, 12:55 PM
He's an average pitcher with upside who would fit perfectly in another teams middle rotation. has a 3 year deal for good money, hot commodity.
LeftWideOpen
03/05/06, 12:56 PM
He's an average pitcher with upside who would fit perfectly in another teams middle rotation. has a 3 year deal for good money, hot commodity.

agreed. he's a luxury ...easily moveable, but also serviceable.
fire on my lips
03/05/06, 01:21 PM
that is why this doesn't matter.
sssssssssssssssssssssh, they're red sox fans. every game matters from game 7 of the World Series to Single A Exhibition games
mikeford
03/05/06, 01:37 PM
sssssssssssssssssssssh, they're red sox fans. every game matters from game 7 of the World Series to Single A Exhibition games

the wilmington blue rocks are a vital piece of the red sox organization!
fire on my lips
03/05/06, 01:44 PM
the wilmington blue rocks are a vital piece of the red sox organization!
yes, because so many of your players have played there, just like the Yankees and the Staten Island Yankess
NetNerdsRevenge
03/05/06, 01:56 PM
sssssssssssssssssssssh, they're red sox fans. every game matters from game 7 of the World Series to Single A Exhibition games
you dont need to tell him, he's one too.
fire on my lips
03/05/06, 01:58 PM
you dont need to tell him, he's one too.
Scott Weber is?
NetNerdsRevenge
03/05/06, 01:59 PM
yes, because so many of your players have played there, just like the Yankees and the Staten Island Yankess
The players they used to trade for the likes of Josh Beckett and Coco Crisp did. There are two purposes of a farm system.
NetNerdsRevenge
03/05/06, 01:59 PM
Scott Weber is?
yup
mikeford
03/05/06, 02:00 PM
i cant believe that kid took my blue rocks comment seriously

THE GULF COAST RED SOX ARE ALSO VERY IMPORTANT. AS ARE THE LOWELL SPINNERS.
fire on my lips
03/05/06, 03:06 PM
The players they used to trade for the likes of Josh Beckett and Coco Crisp did. There are two purposes of a farm system.
i know, i was just being sarcastic.
Scott Weber
03/05/06, 03:35 PM
Scott Weber is?
I like the Red Sox, but I'm not die hard. They've just been a franchise I've rooted for, then I started following them a lot closer about mmmm 5 years ago.
fire on my lips
03/05/06, 03:44 PM
I like the Red Sox, but I'm not die hard. They've just been a franchise I've rooted for, then I started following them a lot closer about mmmm 5 years ago.
Thats good, that's how I am with the Cubs
Capital H
03/05/06, 04:47 PM
i cant believe that kid took my blue rocks comment seriously

THE GULF COAST RED SOX ARE ALSO VERY IMPORTANT. AS ARE THE LOWELL SPINNERS.

...I want a spinners hat, that'd be so tits.
NetNerdsRevenge
03/05/06, 07:22 PM
did you just say "so tits"???

I want a Portland Sea Dogs hat.
fire on my lips
03/05/06, 08:08 PM
did you just say "so tits"???

I want a Portland Sea Dogs hat.
it so rare to hear something being "tits" I want to hear more things being "cous-cous"
LeftWideOpen
03/05/06, 09:42 PM
who woulda thought a thread about bronson arroyo would get 50+ replies?

Anyway, David Wells has announced he's staying w/ the Sox. I think this is great news ..but either Clement or Arroyo has to be heading out the door. I'd be very surprised to see both Papelbon and Arroyo in the pen ..
mikeford
03/06/06, 12:04 AM
if i have to choose, i say fuck clement. ship that asshole and his shitty goatee elsewhere. at least arroyo pitched okay in the postseason
NetNerdsRevenge
03/06/06, 12:22 AM
Philly could really use Clement's ground ball ratio. The question is, what do they have to offer?

Maybe a Graff+ Clement to the Mets for prospects....Milledge!!! Omar would be stupid too do it.

In conclusion, Clement will go to the NL subsidized and we'll probably see prospects back. I dont know if they're dire for a 4th OF, but prospects seems like the road to take.
bigmike
03/06/06, 12:28 AM
Eh True. Like the guy above me said, they're going to improve.

I have to have wishful thinking for the Pirates though. They're my favorite team, and you don't know how bad losing all the time is. Haha.
at least you have the steelers. I'm stuck with the Lions AND the Tigers.
mikeford
03/06/06, 12:59 AM
id prefer having a better 4th OF than dustin mohr, but yeah. prospects are the way to go since kapler the amazing jew will be back by june.
justinevans
03/06/06, 07:12 AM
This thread is as shitty as any college basketball one.
LeftWideOpen
03/06/06, 07:20 AM
if i have to choose, i say fuck clement. ship that asshole and his shitty goatee elsewhere. at least arroyo pitched okay in the postseason

yeah i agree, plus you can probably get more for clement. I say ship him and Graff of to the Rangers (who need pitching and a 2B) and get a young arm back like Eric Hurley or John Danks (if they'd ever do it). Add another guy to build upon Beckett, Papelbon, and Lester. Throw Hansen in at closer and I am seriously shitting myself at how awesome our pitching can be in 2-3 years.

Speaking of pitching, what's the deal w/ Delcarmen? I have a hard time figuring out what role the Sox want him to have in the future cause all we ever see of him now is long relief performances. I assume that they have higher hopes for him then that role for the rest of his career ..
LeftWideOpen
03/06/06, 07:21 AM
This thread is as shitty as any college basketball one.

...this is true, and i love the red sox.

honestly i dont understand why the hell people get there panties in bunches over threads. Ignore it and click the next page button you lazy fucks.
NetNerdsRevenge
03/06/06, 10:38 AM
If they hold on to Delcarmen it'll probably be something along the lines of a Timlin set-up role. I can see it going Delcarmen 8, Hansen 9 in two years.
LeftWideOpen
03/06/06, 10:44 AM
If they hold on to Delcarmen it'll probably be something along the lines of a Timlin set-up role. I can see it going Delcarmen 8, Hansen 9 in two years.

i'm wet just thinking about it ..

Beckett, Papelbon, Lester as the 1/2/3 .. Delcarmen and Hansen in the 8th and 9th ...

Throw in a big budget to fill the other spots and you have the makings of an incredible staff.
NetNerdsRevenge
03/06/06, 10:50 AM
Although this offseason was a disaster for PR, the front office has done an excellent job gathering the right group of guys and setting up their future.

cant wait too actually move to Boston now
crit
03/06/06, 10:51 AM
mikeford needs to change his "college basketball is gay" to "official complain about the red sox guy"
fromwithin
03/06/06, 10:54 AM
i got pissed at the pirates when they gave jack wilson DOUBLE the money they gave bay in an extension recently. i mean seriously, the guy had one good year and now we give up money we could use on free agents down the road. good one.
NetNerdsRevenge
03/06/06, 10:59 AM
i got pissed at the pirates when they gave jack wilson DOUBLE the money they gave bay in an extension recently. i mean seriously, the guy had one good year and now we give up money we could use on free agents down the road. good one.
They don't need to give Bay more money, he's still under his first contract. Bay will get his money, don't worry about that, he just has too get to arbitration first.
fromwithin
03/06/06, 11:05 AM
They don't need to give Bay more money, he's still under his first contract. Bay will get his money, don't worry about that, he just has too get to arbitration first.

i'm not upset about bay not getting money yet, he doesnt deserve it. its the fact that jack wilson got so much. we should pick pokey reese back up and can jack wilson.
Yankees' #1 Fan
03/06/06, 11:17 AM
good thing flaherty can catch knuckleballs.....:\
mikeford
03/06/06, 12:05 PM
good thing flaherty can catch knuckleballs.....:\

well, it seemed pretty clear to me when the trade for coco was made that bard was gonna be the backup.

the positive thing about taking john flaherty from the yankees is, with flaherty catching RJ last season, dude went 12-2 with a 2ish ERA. with jorge i think he went like 5-6 with around a 4 or 5. in other words, a big fuckin difference in the wrong direction.
NetNerdsRevenge
03/06/06, 02:13 PM
i'm not upset about bay not getting money yet, he doesnt deserve it. its the fact that jack wilson got so much. we should pick pokey reese back up and can jack wilson.
Jack Wilson is better than Pokey. Ill explain more when Im able, but im off to work!
mikeford
03/06/06, 02:32 PM
uh. dont people realize that pokey reese hits at or below the mendoza line?

jack wilson at least hits lke 250 i think.

pokey reese is also about 69 years old.
fire on my lips
03/06/06, 03:21 PM
uh. dont people realize that pokey reese hits at or below the mendoza line?

jack wilson at least hits lke 250 i think.

pokey reese is also about 69 years old.
isn't it obvious he left camp, because he saw that he isn't good enough anymore to make the Marlins, let alone some other MLB team
mikeford
03/06/06, 03:25 PM
im pretty sure he probably left camp cuz he lost it when someone on the marlins team asked him to buy them beer. :smile:
fire on my lips
03/06/06, 03:31 PM
im pretty sure he probably left camp cuz he lost it when someone on the marlins team asked him to buy them beer. :smile:
haha, i'm still laughing as i type this
wecanbeheros
03/06/06, 05:47 PM
yes.
xearlynovemberx
03/07/06, 01:37 AM
Philly could really use Clement's ground ball ratio. The question is, what do they have to offer?

Maybe a Graff+ Clement to the Mets for prospects....Milledge!!! Omar would be stupid too do it.

In conclusion, Clement will go to the NL subsidized and we'll probably see prospects back. I dont know if they're dire for a 4th OF, but prospects seems like the road to take.

id stop being a mets fan and become a full time indians fan if he traded mildege for graff and clement